"Ariadne" <ari...@mac.hush.com> wrote in message
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>> And her murder has been filmed.
> These animals can't even see that this woman was a friend of Iraq.
> What a bunch of dumb-asses.
On the contrary, it was done out of a very conscious and intentional
cynical nihilistic "the worse the better" policy. The goal of the
"rebels" is to create chaos -- and above all to prevent reconstruction
and safety from being acccomplished under the supervision of the U.S.
The "rebels" would much prefer NOT to have stability and recovery, if
the stability and recovery would redound to the credit of America.
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Sad. Even Zarqawi wanted her freed.
Pretty standard stuff from Muslims these days. As a people they are
hated more and more each day. Utter barbarians.
Only because he had the sense to realise the murder of a woman was not
going to win him any points with his jihadists friends.
AnonMoos wrote:
> "Shoot - Move and Communicate" <Sh...@moveanccommunicate.coz> wrote:
>
>>"Ariadne" <ari...@mac.hush.com> wrote in message news:1100635182.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>>And her murder has been filmed.
>
>
>
>>These animals can't even see that this woman was a friend of Iraq.
>>What a bunch of dumb-asses.
>
>
> On the contrary, it was done out of a very conscious and intentional
> cynical nihilistic "the worse the better" policy. The goal of the
> "rebels" is to create chaos -- and above all to prevent reconstruction
> and safety from being acccomplished under the supervision of the U.S.
> The "rebels" would much prefer NOT to have stability and recovery, if
> the stability and recovery would redound to the credit of America.
Tell me again why our troops are obliged to capture these vermin alive
when they attempt to surrender???
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at http://www.omdurman.org/memorial.html
Because it is "PC". What happened to the good old days like during WWII
when you could look at the front on any newspaper and see the Word Jap.
So you know for certain that the guy murdered had done
anything at all other than lay on the ground wounded maybe
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Ariadne wrote:
> And her murder has been filmed.
>
Absolutely appalling. This is even more grotesque than the murder of Ken
Bigley, as this woman was a humanitarian, rather than some 'get rich
quick' merchant. All aid workers should get out of Iraq immediately.
These savages don't deserve humanity. Our thoughts go out Mr. Hassan and
his family.
CC
Payback time.
Shoot - Move and Communicate wrote:
> "Bill Levinson" <wlev...@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
> news:ubumd.1977$pK6...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>
>>AnonMoos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Shoot - Move and Communicate" <Sh...@moveanccommunicate.coz> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Ariadne" <ari...@mac.hush.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1100635182.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>>
>>>>>And her murder has been filmed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>These animals can't even see that this woman was a friend of Iraq.
>>>>What a bunch of dumb-asses.
>>>
>>>
>>>On the contrary, it was done out of a very conscious and intentional
>>>cynical nihilistic "the worse the better" policy. The goal of the
>>>"rebels" is to create chaos -- and above all to prevent reconstruction
>>>and safety from being acccomplished under the supervision of the U.S.
>>>The "rebels" would much prefer NOT to have stability and recovery, if
>>>the stability and recovery would redound to the credit of America.
>>
>>Tell me again why our troops are obliged to capture these vermin alive
>>when they attempt to surrender???
>>
>>--Bill
>>
>
> Because it is "PC". What happened to the good old days like during WWII
> when you could look at the front on any newspaper and see the Word Jap.
In the good old days, any insurgent who was captured while disguised as
a civilian-- and that includes most if not all of them-- would have been
given short shrift. As one source describes short shrift, it means
putting someone between a wall and a firing squad and giving the order
to shoot.
G. Triver wrote:
> We won't be hearing about any Fatwas against the Islamist scum from anywhere
> in the Arab world--what does that tell you about Arab morality??
Arab morality is an oxymoron, like Arab honor.
On paper she is the last person the insurgents would kill, fluent in Arabic,
married to an Iraqi, a good Samaritan and vehemently against the invasion of
her adopted homeland. Added to the fact that the ringleader of the beheading
gang and US enemy No.1, Musab Al Zarqawi called for her immediate release...
aware that her kidnapping and death had nothing to do with his cause and
would likely create revulsion throughout the Middle East.
Indeed I am more inclined to look at the dozens of Mossad agents traipsing
around Iraq or the well established US PsyOps. Killing Mrs Hassan would
prove that the insurgency was pure evil rather than a nationalist struggle.
In any case whoever was responsible, may they burn in hell..
"Shoot - Move and Communicate" <Sh...@moveanccommunicate.coz> wrote in
message news:F3tmd.104929$R05.10997@attbi_s53...
Codex Twin wrote:
> I would agree that there is a lot more to Mrs Hassan's death than meets the
> eye.
>
> On paper she is the last person the insurgents would kill, fluent in Arabic,
> married to an Iraqi, a good Samaritan and vehemently against the invasion of
> her adopted homeland. Added to the fact that the ringleader of the beheading
> gang and US enemy No.1, Musab Al Zarqawi called for her immediate release...
> aware that her kidnapping and death had nothing to do with his cause and
> would likely create revulsion throughout the Middle East.
>
> Indeed I am more inclined to look at the dozens of Mossad agents traipsing
> around Iraq or the well established US PsyOps. Killing Mrs Hassan would
> prove that the insurgency was pure evil rather than a nationalist struggle.
Oh yes, American and/or Israeli agents did it... sure. Just like
American and/or the Mossad did 9/11, along with Pearl Harbor.
> In any case whoever was responsible, may they burn in hell..
Hell is hypothetical. I prefer burning them with jellied gasoline in
this world and letting God decide what happens to them in the next.
and that exonerates zarqawi from his previous murders eh ?
I knew, I just knew it. This was a bad deed so there is no way an Arab
could do it so it just had to be a Jew who did it.
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Absolutely - This has got the "Star Of David" scrawled right the way across
it.
Good post !
Codex Twin wrote:
> I would agree that there is a lot more to Mrs Hassan's death than meets the
> eye.
>
> On paper she is the last person the insurgents would kill, fluent in Arabic,
> married to an Iraqi, a good Samaritan and vehemently against the invasion of
> her adopted homeland. Added to the fact that the ringleader of the beheading
> gang and US enemy No.1, Musab Al Zarqawi called for her immediate release...
> aware that her kidnapping and death had nothing to do with his cause and
> would likely create revulsion throughout the Middle East.
>
> Indeed I am more inclined to look at the dozens of Mossad agents traipsing
> around Iraq...
>
Is that so? And how would you know about these 'Mossad agents traipsing
around Iraq'. Would you care to share your 'inside' knowledge about
this? Do they personally keep you posted about their 'activities'.
Incidentally, why would Mossad agents kidnap and murder a humanitarian
who was not hostile to Israel AFAIK? Mrs Hassan was not known to be a
spy, and was widely respected. So what would be the reason for this?
Please do tell?
CC
No. What sort of world do you live in there in your head?
>Gee, how come the Arab world hasn't blamed the Jews for this one too....
>
>
They will. Like with the WTC bombing, they will pose the question:
"Who profits the most from her murder?" Why, of course, the Jews.
Therefore the Jews did it.
Then why not film a 'gang bang' prior to the gizzard slitting?
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Give them a chance. The fact of her murder was only announced this
afternoon, and the only governments whose condemnation of the atrocity
has so far been reported (at least on the BBC site) are the British and
Irish governments. Has George Bush said anything about it yet?
Certainly plenty of Arab governments and organisations -- including,
apparently, al-Zarqawi's lot -- were calling for her release.
Steve
>
>
>G. Triver wrote:
>
>> We won't be hearing about any Fatwas against the Islamist scum from anywhere
>> in the Arab world--what does that tell you about Arab morality??
>
>Arab morality is an oxymoron, like Arab honor.
I would generalise that to "semitic morality" and "semitic honour",
Levinstein.
Insurgent? What's wrong with the word "partisan", Levinstein?
Because it is not occurring in your beloved Serbia, Radobitch.
But then, you are a necrophile and a pedophile who is neither moral nor
honourable.
George can you *PLEASE* remove nz.general from the ngs these posts go to.
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Twatty, can you *PLEASE* remove soc.culture.israel from the ngs these
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> > We won't be hearing about any Fatwas against the Islamist scum from anywhere
> > in the Arab world--what does that tell you about Arab morality??
A Fatwa is not required for something that is clearly stated in the
Quran and Hadith. Margaret Hassan had converted to Islam, and the
Quran says:
"[4.93] And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is
hell; he shall abide in it, and Allah will send His wrath on him and
curse him and prepare for him a painful chastisement."
Even in a war, Prophet Muhammad forbade killing of women, children,
old people and monks. In fact, Islam is the only religion that
specifically prohibits killing of non-combatants.
...or arab courage...
To find out the truth about the religion of peace, check out The
Flanstein at:
>Floppy, could you *PLEASE* sod off?
Yo, Discunt! Whassup, ho' ???
I think it is pretty even. There was no Christian crusade for the little
6 year old girl shot dead by Israelis a month ago.
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>> Levinstein
>>
>What's your problem, rev?
I don't have one. Why do you imagine there is one?
Zarqawi reminds me of the guy that saved a girl from rape, after he
abused and frightened her, he changed his mind.
Others have committed kidnappings as well. Al Zarqawi is not the only one who
does this. The fact that she was shot in the head instead of being beheaded is
one indication that it wasn't Al Zarqawi's men. And despite your delusions, the
neither the U.S. nor Israel need to "traips" around Iraq doing such things to
prove that the insurgency is pure evil. The insurgency does a fine job of that
all on their own.
What at amazingly ignorant rant.
If that was Zarqawi that said it.
Ironic then that so many muslims can only kill non combatants, and tend to
fill their drawers and run like little girls when the juggernaut of the non
believers comes rolling into town.
Even the Taliban have chimed in and said taking females hostage was
against Islam.
If that was the Taliban that said it.
> These animals can't even see that this woman was a friend of Iraq. What a
> bunch of dumb-asses.
Maybe the US did the killing. Easy to blame it on others. She was
apparently opposed to the invasion.
Dream on!!
I will challenge anyone who's country is invaded by a foreign army not to
defend itself the way the Iraqis are.
To call the Nationalist resistance "insurgents" and "terrorists" is a
piss-take that News International and the Bushite NeoCons would love is to
swallow.
I cannot fault what the Iraqis are doing.
I can only fault the invading occupying army.
Simple as that.
There is a newsgroup that is more appropriate to your theory. Try
alt.conspiracy.
Ah yes, urban legends that never seem to go away.
> And now its a war of occupation.
>
> I will challenge anyone who's country is invaded by a foreign army not to
> defend itself the way the Iraqis are.
The vast majority of Iraqis don't feel this way, Cody. An small minority of
Sunnis do not make up the bulk of Iraqis. In fact, even if all Sunnis were
against the current government, they were still constitute a minority.
> To call the Nationalist resistance "insurgents" and "terrorists" is a
> piss-take that News International and the Bushite NeoCons would love is to
> swallow.
I'm sure that you swallow more than your share of propaganda. It shows in your
post.
Coming from a group that assassinated women in a soccer stadium right in public
view for not adhering to their strict interpretation of Islam, any statement
from them regarding women is immediately suspect.
Where did you get that information from? The vast majority of Iraqis? I
doubt it. More like USA-Alliance-centric grandstanding and the News
International media machine.
Allawi is hated. They fucking hate him. Worse, it was he who was responsible
for the erroneous 45 minute claim that landed UK in this pile of entrenched
dog shit.
>> To call the Nationalist resistance "insurgents" and "terrorists" is a
>> piss-take that News International and the Bushite NeoCons would love is
>> to swallow.
>
> I'm sure that you swallow more than your share of propaganda. It shows in
> your post.
Is it so difficult for Americans to see what the whole world now regards as
obvious?
That this is an expansionist empire-building war to position USA in the
heartland of OIL country.
If it looks like shit and if it smells like shit, more than likely, it is
shit.
I won't hold my breath though.
"Nzuri" <nz...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>I trust that Margaret Hassan's murder will be condemned with all
> possible force by senior Muslim clerics. I won't hold my breath,
> though.
And the right-wing answer is the most flim-flam of them all.
That's why they have to grandstand and stoke up their scandalised outrage by
concentrating on the killing Margaret Hassan, instead of the killings of
thousands of Iraqi women and children who were blown to bits in Fallujah and
Mosul and Samarra.
Why is USA in Iraq in the first place?
Was it the WMDs, or was it humanitarian, or was it Saddam's sons, or is it
Abu Musab Zarkawi?
Whatever it was, it must have been important at the time.
"The Traveler" <tr...@never.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:45:14 GMT, "G. Triver" <gtr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Gee, how come the Arab world hasn't blamed the Jews for this one too....
>>
>>
>
> They will. Like with the WTC bombing, they will pose the question:
> "Who profits the most from her murder?" Why, of course, the Jews.
> Therefore the Jews did it.
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So you support taking taking females hostage? Why am I not surprised?
Wow, you can say all that in one breath without passing out. I'm astonished!
> Allawi is hated. They fucking hate him. Worse, it was he who was responsible
> for the erroneous 45 minute claim that landed UK in this pile of entrenched
> dog shit.
>
Poor Cody. Still having problems with your aluminum foil deflector beanie.
>>> To call the Nationalist resistance "insurgents" and "terrorists" is a
>>> piss-take that News International and the Bushite NeoCons would love is to
>>> swallow.
>>
>> I'm sure that you swallow more than your share of propaganda. It shows in
>> your post.
>
> Is it so difficult for Americans to see what the whole world now regards as
> obvious?
The whole world? I hate to break it to you, Cody, but your conspiracy theories
don't constitute the whole world.
> That this is an expansionist empire-building war to position USA in the
> heartland of OIL country.
We were there already, Codus. They call it Saudi Arabia.
> If it looks like shit and if it smells like shit, more than likely, it is
> shit.
Ooh. Good thing you didn't step in it, eh?
I was planning not to answer your foolish comment but I couldn't
resist educating you a little bit.
You are using the wrong similitude. The word "juggernaut" is derived
from Hindu god Vishnu's statue (known as "Jagannath") that was carried
on a carriage through the streets of India. The Hindu devotees would
throw themselves in front of the carriage and were crushed to death by
the wheels. Running away would be the opposite of facing the
juggernaut!
Merriam-Webster also defines "juggernaut" as "a massive inexorable
force, campaign, movement, or object that crushes whatever is in its
path." If Iraqi insurgents are running away then what's left to crush
are Iraqi towns and civilians.
WTF are you babbling about. How you could come to such an ignorant conclusion
is beyond me.
You mob of flat earth wackos never give up do you ?
Hope you don't drive or operate machinery in your condition.
The scary part is that they probably do.
Simple ? yep, that explains your thought process.
1MAN why are you arguing with the scumbag, first of all there is no
need for th Iraqis to kill Mrs Hussain.
It is rather convinient that she was murdered by her captors exactly
at the time the Barbarians were killing injured Falujan civilians in
cold blood.
This tactic has been used successfully by the Zionazis and now that
Satan Worshippers from America.
Fact who says it was muslims, that's right the Lying American Media.
Fact the invading Crusaders are the only ones to gains from theis
horrific event
Fact it is they who killed her
Fact now we have the Crusaders saying see we leveling and murdering
Iraqi children is justified look at what they done to this poor woman.
Cunt1 is not a very nice individual. He is quite sick and disgustig.
He might not use profanity or other harsh words. But his language is
more disgusting and destructive.
Within it lies racism and bigotry, hidden behing the mask of normal
thinking. His language fosters not only hatred for today, but creates
and justifies hatred for tommorrow to.
Time to say it as it is. Muslims did not murder Ms Hussain, the
crusaders did. It is their soldiers pulling the trigger. They have
shown again and again, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Afghanistand now Iraq they
are without humanity.
WTC was not done by muslims, no proof of this exist anywhere, only in
the American Media.
That even though Zarqawi and the Taliban are against taking females
hostage you seem to want to argue about.
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:45:41 -0800, $Discunt$ <$ Let them eat shit $>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:43:54 +1300, "Tilly" <Striki...@yahoo.co.nz>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >george wrote:
>> >> >> "The Revd" <rene...@who-know-when.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:419adfd1...@news.tiscali.co.uk...
>> >> >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:59:21 GMT, Bill Levinson
>> >> >>> <wlev...@stentorian.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> G. Triver wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> We won't be hearing about any Fatwas against the Islamist scum
>> >> >>>>> from anywhere in the Arab world--what does that tell you about
>> >> >>>>> Arab morality??
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Arab morality is an oxymoron, like Arab honor.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I would generalise that to "semitic morality" and "semitic honour",
>> >> >>> Levinstein.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But then, you are a necrophile and a pedophile who is neither moral
>> >> >> nor honourable.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >George can you *PLEASE* remove nz.general from the ngs these posts go to.
>> >>
>> >> Twatty, can you *PLEASE* remove soc.culture.israel from the ngs these
>> >> posts go to.
>> >>
>> >Floppy, could you *PLEASE* sod off?
>>
>> Yo, Discunt! Whassup, ho' ???
>>
>Sears has just merged with K-Mart. Yehaw! I'm going shopping.
Typical ditsy broad.
>PS - Sod off you creep.
>
>$Discunt$
Just shut up and spread 'em, Discunt.
>> >> Levinstein
>> >>
>> >What's your problem, rev?
>>
>> I don't have one.
>>
>Really? Why do you hate Jews so much?
Where'd you get a ridiculous idea like that from, ÇreamÇheese®?
The fact that they've done it before is your clue, Einstein. The Taliban have
murdered and tortured many women. Al-Zaqawi has kidnapped women before. He
even kidnapped a child a few weeks ago.
Or the running insurgents.
Possibly. My point is that you are using Hassan's death to demonize
your opponents by ignoring their claims that they consider the taking of
female hostages wrong. In other words, you don't seem to give a shit
about Margaret being killed *except* that it advances your demonization
agenda. You are using her dead body not mourning over it.
I don't have to demonize anyone. They do that quite nicely all on their own.
As for Margaret Hassan, I was one of the first to post her reported death on
newsgroups (at least, I didn't see any other posts about it at the time) when it
came over the wire. And I'm mad as hell about it. Who wouldn't be except those
who espouse and commit such violence? And I can mourn and be mad as hell about
it at the same time. I do have the ability to do more than one thing at a time.
>The question *no one* seems to ask anymore is:
>Why is USA in Iraq in the first place?
>
>And the right-wing answer is the most flim-flam of them all.
>That's why they have to grandstand and stoke up their scandalised outrage by
>concentrating on the killing Margaret Hassan, instead of the killings of
>thousands of Iraqi women and children who were blown to bits in Fallujah and
>Mosul and Samarra.
>
>Why is USA in Iraq in the first place?
>Was it the WMDs, or was it humanitarian, or was it Saddam's sons, or is it
>Abu Musab Zarkawi?
>
>Whatever it was, it must have been important at the time.
Two things here:
1. NOTHING justifies the killing of an innocent women who really was
working on the behalf of Iraqi innocents. NOTHING
2. There are well documented link and series of series of links
between Saddam Hussein and the attacks on the WTC. Read the recent
postings in "soc.culture.iraq" under title of "The Saddam-9/11 Link
Confirmed."
Read it. Whether you want to believe it or not, there's nothing there
to warrant the execution of any woman. Stop using the Iraq "situation"
as a justification of bestial disgusting acts.
>Bend over, pumpy.
Are you a shirtlifter, ÇuntFace®?
>Back off or I'll open up a can of ©hri§tÇræm® uppa u s.
Get back in your own thread, ÇuntÇake®.
I do not think that Americans (or if you prefer "Crusaders") killed
Margaret Hassan. It is fairly obvious from the videos that were sent
out that she was killed by Iraqi insurgents. I'm afraid, this war is
slowly turning into a war against all "foreigners" in Iraq. Margaret
was killed because she was white, even though she was a Muslim and had
Iraqi citizenship. Similarly, other foreigners including Turks,
Nepalese and Pakistanis have been abducted and killed, whereas Iraqis
who were caught at the same time were released. Killing of Margaret
and beheadings of Muslims prove that these insurgents are not
"Islamists" but secularists who make no distinction between Muslims
and non-Muslims. They just want all "foreigners" to leave Iraq, so
Iraqis can 'own' their country, build it the they way they want it,
and get jobs for their own people. Obviously, the way they are trying
to achieve these goals is wrong and self-defeating.
I think Ayatollah Sistani has taken a more reasonable approach, and I
wish Sunni religious leaders would come forward and help end the
politics of self-destruction. Yes, the war was wrong, American
occupation of Iraq is wrong, but the way to end all this is through
democracy_ essentially through an act of parliament, asking the US to
leave; organizing peaceful protests; and by launching an
international political campaign. The Iraqi insurgents should stop
doing the type of things that are cruel and against the clear
injunctions of Quran.
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"gutrench" <nabb...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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| Killing of Margaret
| and beheadings of Muslims prove that these insurgents are not
| "Islamists" but secularists who make no distinction between Muslims
| and non-Muslims.
How so? This behaviour is not unique to Iraq, it has happened in Saudi
Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Egypt. In an Islamic country, there is no
secularism.
It really doesn't matter how reasonable you are with Gutty 1MAN, he is a
loon.
I'm afraid, this war is
> slowly turning into a war against all "foreigners" in Iraq.
Except the ones streaming in to help the insurgents.
Margaret
> was killed because she was white, even though she was a Muslim and had
> Iraqi citizenship. Similarly, other foreigners including Turks,
> Nepalese and Pakistanis have been abducted and killed, whereas Iraqis
> who were caught at the same time were released.
Of course there were many Iraqis killed by the insurgents too. Most notably
by car bombs at police stations....and lets not forget the 34 children
killed in september.
Killing of Margaret
> and beheadings of Muslims prove that these insurgents are not
> "Islamists" but secularists who make no distinction between Muslims
> and non-Muslims.
If they'd stop yelling 'allah ackbar' while gleefully sawing off heads and
using Islamic symbolism on their videos they post on the internet you'd have
a case.
Until them I'm afraid we can say with no doubt these subhuman morons we've
labelled 'insurgents' are definetely 'Islamic'.
> Israelis and Jewish-Americans. Certainly you weren't taught to hate,
were
> you?
> Drop the persecution complex and look at what you are doing to your
fellow
> human, better yet look at the Blood of American Soldiers being
spilled to
> protect Israel. America has no business in Iraq other than to
support the
> Christian Evangilical War Cry to protect Israel.
>
This would be a fine example of antisemitic brainwashed stupidity
if there were only any evidence that the poster has a brain.
Sensible people do hate terrorism and foul Muslim fiends who
kidnap and evilly murder the innocent and who encourage their
children to kill themselves in a gross act of mass-murder.
The thread concerns foul Muslim terrorism. There is not much
hope that this poster will address it.
I must disagree, it is not at all obvious. Is it your contention that
muslims are so dumb that they having held this woman for all this
time, will then murder her. Just as their country folk, including
children are being murdered by the Crusaders and the worlds media
especially in the west are taking notice.
Because we have a video, it does not show that it was muslims. It is
the western American/Anglo take which says it was muslims.
> I'm afraid, this war is
> slowly turning into a war against all "foreigners" in Iraq. Margaret
> was killed because she was white, even though she was a Muslim and had
> Iraqi citizenship. Similarly, other foreigners including Turks,
> Nepalese and Pakistanis have been abducted and killed, whereas Iraqis
> who were caught at the same time were released. Killing of Margaret
> and beheadings of Muslims prove that these insurgents are not
> "Islamists" but secularists who make no distinction between Muslims
> and non-Muslims. They just want all "foreigners" to leave Iraq, so
> Iraqis can 'own' their country, build it the they way they want it,
> and get jobs for their own people. Obviously, the way they are trying
> to achieve these goals is wrong and self-defeating.
>
No they are not against all foreigners only those that are taking a
mercenary approach and are in cahoots with the American/Blair the
Poodle crusaders.
You don't want to get killed don't do business with the enemy of the
Iraqi people. You want to make a living off the death of Iraqi
civilians, then you deserve what you get.
> I think Ayatollah Sistani has taken a more reasonable approach, and I
> wish Sunni religious leaders would come forward and help end the
> politics of self-destruction. Yes, the war was wrong, American
> occupation of Iraq is wrong, but the way to end all this is through
> democracy_ essentially through an act of parliament, asking the US to
> leave; organizing peaceful protests; and by launching an
> international political campaign. The Iraqi insurgents should stop
> doing the type of things that are cruel and against the clear
> injunctions of Quran.
Oh are you sane, what democracy the one that just occured in the
stolen American election again.
As for the Sunni Religious leaders they are brave and right is on
their side. I wish them all the best and may the be victorious
against the heathen scum.
As for your wishfull thinking talk to the Palestinians ask them where
peacefull protests and UN resolutions got them.
If your last paragraph is your clear belief then all I am going to say
to you is this.
500000 Iraqi civilians died due to American/British sanction many of
them were children. When that Zionazi Whore Madelein Albright was
asked was it a price worth paying she replied in the positive.
You know what you are a sell out muslim fool.
• The Holy Qur'an undoubtedly proves it.
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Then you Zionazi comedian, then it is a badge of pride.
> Sensible people do hate terrorism and foul Muslim fiends who
> kidnap and evilly murder the innocent and who encourage their
> children to kill themselves in a gross act of mass-murder.
>
This is statement is a gross lie and warrents no further explanation.
> The thread concerns foul Muslim terrorism. There is not much
> hope that this poster will address it.
>
Your right because we don't need to, because again it is not true,
they are not terrrorists, they are freedom fighters. No matter how
you barbarian wish to dress.
There is a foul odour here and that is you Zionazi shit.
>"Ariadne" <ari...@mac.hush.com> wrote in message
news:<1100818594....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
>> Taluza wrote:
>> > I shall never understand the deep hatered buried in the souls of some
>>
>> >...
>> The thread concerns foul Muslim terrorism. There is not much
>> hope that this poster will address it.
>>
>
>Your right because we don't need to, because again it is not true,
>they are not terrrorists, they are freedom fighters. No matter how
>you barbarian wish to dress.
>
...
• So it was "freedom fighters" who sawed the arms and legs off of Iraqui
aid worker Margaret Hassan and put a bullet in her head?
Your right I think that is what you Amerinazi Christian
Paulian\athiest\Zionazi Satan Butt Plugs are calling youselves, as you
like locust invade other countries and heap destruction, and murder
upon its children.
There is hope for you yet, you just need to step outside that little
box you live in called surprisingly 'stupid lives here'.
And what else would they have.
Address the issue of the poisoned death cult you call a religion.
Keep the ludicrous numbers and lies out of your justification for
filthy, foul, murderous deeds. Your post reeks of subhumanity.
And attach the "Nazi" label to yourself. Your kind learned a lot
from the SS. Pity you are not capable of learning anything
worthwhile.
Your moronic hatred, ignorance and lies are
.
Sensible people do hate terrorism and foul Muslim fiends who
kidnap and evilly murder the innocent and who encourage their
children to kill themselves in a gross act of mass-murder.
The thread concerns foul Muslim terrorism. There is not much
I don't know if you look at alt.security.terrorism. The following
was posted there.
****
Our reader Haider Ajina phoned his father in Baghdad for an update on
Iraqi sentiment concerning the Marine killing. Haider sends us the
following message:
I just got of the phone with my father in Baghdad. I asked him what is
the reaction of the Marine killing the Injured Iraqi in the Mosque in
Felujah. His first words were "Good riddance."
People are not giving it a second thought. Any terrorist who attacks
soldiers from Mosques has no sanctuary. Any terrorists who fake death
to
kill in a mosque deserve no mercy. He says Iraqis (including Sunnis)
are
fed up with the terrorists and want them eliminated.
There was much uproar about the brutal kidnapping killing of Mrs.
Margaret Hassan. Iraqis are upset outraged and disgusted with her
brutal
abduction & killing. She helped us, helped the poor & needy and this
what the terrorist do to her and her family.
He says we must stay strong, united and relentless in the pursuit of
the
terrorist. Baghdad had relative calm over the last few days. People are
even going out in the street till 9:30pm now.
Please spread the message, let America Know that the Iraqis are with
us,
grateful and want us to stay strong and get stronger so that we can all
defeat terrorism.
Haider also writes:
The Iraqi Arabic newspaper "Azaman" reported the following in its
Nov
19th issue. The English Translation is as follows:
"Israel & Six Arab countries join to fight terrorism.
"NATO announced that it will perform anti terrorist Naval maneuvers in
the Mediterranean. These maneuvers will be in partnership with the
navies of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Tunis, Algiers & Mauritania.
These forces will train together to better hone their skills in
fighting
terrorist, drug smugglers and illegal immigration in the Mediterranean
basin."
This looks like a step in the right direction. It seems we all have a
common enemy now. This a sad but best way to bring people together. We
witnessed this in 9-11 right here at home.
--
_____________________________________
"We plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely
Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by
psychological warfare and population explosion... We Palestinians will
take over everything, including all of Jerusalem."
(02/27/1996) Yasser Arafat
"Yasser Arafat could not make the transition from guerilla leader to
national leader. At the end of the day, Mr. Arafat was unwilling or
unable to take that leap of faith."
(11/11/2004) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
"It is cause for celebration for the Palestinians that [Arafat] will
never again control their destiny."
(11/10/2004) Lalita Panicker, Times of India
****
A footnote from a different source. "Palestinians" used to call
Arafat Abu Amar, Father of Construction. But as they began to
get to know him they changed it to Abu Damar, Father of Destruction.
One of my favourite posters changed it once again to Abu Geoffrey
Dahmer.
That is probably the most descriptive...
"george" <geo...@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
news:hFTmd.100245$HA.98681@attbi_s01...
>
> "Codex Twin" <co...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419bde8e$0$18462$ed2e...@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>>
>> "george" <geo...@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
>> news:MuPmd.350260$wV.92535@attbi_s54...
>>>
>>> "Codex Twin" <co...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:419bb271$0$43630$ed2e...@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>>>> Let's understand what this was for: It was for OIL.
>>>
>>> Ah yes, urban legends that never seem to go away.
>>>
>>>> And now its a war of occupation.
>>>>
>>>> I will challenge anyone who's country is invaded by a foreign army not
>>>> to defend itself the way the Iraqis are.
>>>
>>> The vast majority of Iraqis don't feel this way, Cody. An small
>>> minority of Sunnis do not make up the bulk of Iraqis. In fact, even if
>>> all Sunnis were against the current government, they were still
>>> constitute a minority.
>>>
>>
>> Where did you get that information from? The vast majority of Iraqis? I
>> doubt it. More like USA-Alliance-centric grandstanding and the News
>> International media machine.
>
>
> Wow, you can say all that in one breath without passing out. I'm
> astonished!
>
>> Allawi is hated. They fucking hate him. Worse, it was he who was
>> responsible for the erroneous 45 minute claim that landed UK in this pile
>> of entrenched dog shit.
>>
>
> Poor Cody. Still having problems with your aluminum foil deflector
> beanie.
>
>>>> To call the Nationalist resistance "insurgents" and "terrorists" is a
>>>> piss-take that News International and the Bushite NeoCons would love is
>>>> to swallow.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that you swallow more than your share of propaganda. It shows
>>> in your post.
>>
>> Is it so difficult for Americans to see what the whole world now regards
>> as obvious?
>
> The whole world? I hate to break it to you, Cody, but your conspiracy
> theories don't constitute the whole world.
>
>> That this is an expansionist empire-building war to position USA in the
>> heartland of OIL country.
>
> We were there already, Codus. They call it Saudi Arabia.
>
>> If it looks like shit and if it smells like shit, more than likely, it
>> is shit.
>
>
> Ooh. Good thing you didn't step in it, eh?
>
"Sunny" <womba...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:xwYmd.40169$K7.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Codex Twin" <co...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419a7792$0$4019$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> Indeed I am more inclined to look at the dozens of Mossad agents
>> traipsing
>> around Iraq or the well established US PsyOps.
>
> You mob of flat earth wackos never give up do you ?
> Hope you don't drive or operate machinery in your condition.
>
What is less simple is what US soldiers have been fed with to motivate them
to invade another country whilst their government struggles to create a
non-tenuous "REASON TO INVADE".
"Sunny" <womba...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:EyYmd.40172$K7....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Codex Twin" <co...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419bb271$0$43630$ed2e...@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> I cannot fault what the Iraqis are doing.
>> Simple as that.
>
> Simple ? yep, that explains your thought process.
>
>r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote in message
news:<r_-191104...@192.168.1.101>...
>> In article <589d9550.04111...@posting.google.com>,
>> nabb...@softhome.net (gutrench) wrote:
>>
>> >"Ariadne" <ari...@mac.hush.com> wrote in message
>> news:<1100818594....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
>> >> Taluza wrote:
>> >> > I shall never understand the deep hatered buried in the souls of some
>>
>> >> >...
>> >> The thread concerns foul Muslim terrorism. There is not much
>> >> hope that this poster will address it.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Your right because we don't need to, because again it is not true,
>> >they are not terrrorists, they are freedom fighters. No matter how
>> >you barbarian wish to dress.
>> >
>> ...
>> ? So it was "freedom fighters" who sawed the arms and legs off of Iraqui
>> aid worker Margaret Hassan and put a bullet in her head?
>
>Your right I think that is what you Amerinazi Christian
• I am not a Christian nor have I ever joined a Christian church.
>Paulian\athiest\Zionazi Satan Butt Plugs are calling youselves, as you
>like locust invade other countries and heap destruction, and murder
>upon its children.
>
>There is hope for you yet, you just need to step outside that little
>box you live in called surprisingly 'stupid lives here'.
• Is it not stupid to assume that I am a Christian?
Zionazi filth like you feed on the murdered corpses of those Jews that
were butchered by Western White Christian Paulian Sect worshipping
scum. Your a leech that sullies their memories. This heinous act was
not carried out by muslims, in matter of fact history is littered with
the good deeds of Muslim leaders to Jews. However you filthy Zionazi
bastards not only helped in the murder of Jews, your expertly evil an
vile attributing of the heinous crime that is known holocaust of the
peoples of the great Judaic faith on the muslims, shows what a Satanic
whore your Zionazi sect is. You are no friend of the Jews. The same
way in which the Wahabis are no friend of the Muslims.
Escpecially you, you filthy Zionazi Shit.
Cunt Crap, by a Zionazi whore.
LOL ! I've never seen the crabby old cunt summed up quite so brilliantly !
Nice work !
Why, thank you, Codicus Twinhicus.
> But my 4 year does flippany to fine art.
What, exactly is "flippany"? I have heard of:
Main Entry: flip·pan·cy
Pronunciation: 'fli-p&n(t)-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
: unbecoming levity or pertness especially in respect to grave or sacred matters
Hmmm. If what you say is true, that sounds like child abuse. I mean, think
about it. If you let your child say some of the things I've said on the
newsgroups, then you should probably have your daddy license taken away. At the
very least, you should be strapped to a chair and be forced to read every insane
post that Warhol has ever made on Usenet.
> But that's all it is.You might
> represent the humerous, anecdotal, even funny contingent of SUV-happy
> Americanos,
??? SUVs? Now you go and insult me? I hate to burst your little ego bubble,
but it's Toyota all the way, Xedoc!
but your one-liners only serve to re-inforce what a bunch of
> smarmy cunts you Right-Wing neo-Cons are.
If you are so smart, you'd have read enough of my posts by now to realize that
I'm a "smarmy" Kerry Democrat. That's ok, I sometimes get egg on my face too. I
just don't usually do it by posting such an obviously flawed accusation
regarding someone about whom who I know less than nothing.
** The insurgents do not follow the Geneva Conventions, so anything goes.
>People are not giving it a second thought. Any terrorist who attacks
>soldiers from Mosques has no sanctuary. Any terrorists who fake death
>to kill in a mosque deserve no mercy. He says Iraqis (including Sunnis)
>are fed up with the terrorists and want them eliminated.
>
>There was much uproar about the brutal kidnapping killing of Mrs.
>Margaret Hassan. Iraqis are upset outraged and disgusted with her
>brutal
>abduction & killing. She helped us, helped the poor & needy and this
>what the terrorist do to her and her family.
** The problem is that for years the Sunni minority has ruled the Shite
majority with an iron fist. Thus, if Iraq ever achieves democracy, the
Sunnis know it's payback-time, big-time.
>
>He says we must stay strong, united and relentless in the pursuit of
>the
>terrorist. Baghdad had relative calm over the last few days. People are
>even going out in the street till 9:30pm now.
** Damn. That's even risky in some parts of Los Angeles unless one has a
large pistol in one hand and a Bowie knife in the other.
>
>Please spread the message, let America Know that the Iraqis are with
>us, grateful and want us to stay strong and get stronger so that we can all
>defeat terrorism.
>
>Haider also writes:
>The Iraqi Arabic newspaper "Azaman" reported the following in its
>Nov
>19th issue. The English Translation is as follows:
>"Israel & Six Arab countries join to fight terrorism.
>
>"NATO announced that it will perform anti terrorist Naval maneuvers in
>the Mediterranean. These maneuvers will be in partnership with the
>navies of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Tunis, Algiers & Mauritania.
>These forces will train together to better hone their skills in
>fighting
>terrorist, drug smugglers and illegal immigration in the Mediterranean basin."
>
>This looks like a step in the right direction. It seems we all have a
>common enemy now. This a sad but best way to bring people together. We
>witnessed this in 9-11 right here at home.
>
** The U. S. defense biz was in a terrible slump after the Cold War
ended. 9-11 was a godsend to corporate profits.
>
>_____________________________________
>
>"We plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely
>Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by
>psychological warfare and population explosion... We Palestinians will
>take over everything, including all of Jerusalem."
>(02/27/1996) Yasser Arafat
>
>"Yasser Arafat could not make the transition from guerilla leader to
>national leader. At the end of the day, Mr. Arafat was unwilling or
>unable to take that leap of faith."
>(11/11/2004) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
>
** The end of corrupt Palestinian leader - such as Arafat - may well turn
out to be Israeli-style democracy.
>"It is cause for celebration for the Palestinians that [Arafat] will
>never again control their destiny."
>(11/10/2004) Lalita Panicker, Times of India
>
>****
>
>A footnote from a different source. "Palestinians" used to call
>Arafat Abu Amar, Father of Construction. But as they began to
>get to know him they changed it to Abu Damar, Father of Destruction.
** In the end, the truth wins.
>
>One of my favourite posters changed it once again to Abu Geoffrey
>Dahmer.
>
>That is probably the most descriptive...
** Dahmer was a felator
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
What you apparently have forgoteen, Codicus in Mouthus it that those Neocons (as
bad as they are) work for us. And they aren't operating the machinery, we are.
You can shit in your pants now. Just don't sit down.