Charismatics & Joe Dalton?
Debbie at work
"someone here has asked if I know anything about a Charismatic group
associated with Joe Dalton - apparently Joe is from Ireland and is
coming here in the near future."
Can anyone help?
Debbie
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Debbie Herring
Urban Theology Unit
(Views expressed in this post are mine, not UTU's)
Richard Emblem
deb...@utusheffield.fsnet.co.uk (Debbie at work) writes:
>Relaying a message from janet who is "holed up at work"
>
>"someone here has asked if I know anything about a Charismatic group
>associated with Joe Dalton - apparently Joe is from Ireland and is
>coming here in the near future."
>
>Can anyone help?
Joe is a lovely gentle Irishman, a rare example of an RC layman and evangelist
with a healing ministry. He often comes to UK when invited by various
christian denominations. He doesn't have any particular "Charismatic group" and
I am not aware of his current plans, whereabouts is "here"? I can give janet
his home phone number by email if required. His RC speaking engagements in UK
are often featured in GoodNews magazine website: www.ccr.org.uk
--
Richard Emblem
How good and pleasant it is
when God's people live in unity.
(Psalm 133:1)
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Richard Emblem
deb...@utusheffield.fsnet.co.uk (Debbie at work) writes:
>Relaying a message from janet who is "holed up at work"
>
>"someone here has asked if I know anything about a Charismatic group
>associated with Joe Dalton - apparently Joe is from Ireland and is
>coming here in the near future."
>
>Can anyone help?
I found this on the web site of a Boulder, Colorado newspaper and it sums up
Joe and his story - which I have heard so many times that he once said I could
probably tell it for him :-)
Well-healed opera star
Joe Dalton was a world-renowned opera star, traveling the globe to sing in
French, German, Italian, Russian and English. He won the gold medal of the St.
Brendan Society in Boston. Then he found God, who had other plans for the
operatic sensation from Dublin, Ireland. Today, Dalton travels the world as a
renowned Catholic faith healer. Hundreds line up for cures to back problems,
spinal cord injuries, cancer... even deafness and blindness.
Frances Dorsey, of Longmont, Colorado is among the local success stories.
Dorsey had lived for 35 years with chronic pain, affecting almost every inch of
her body. Life seemed like one long doctor's visit, as she spent a fortune
seeing neurologists and other specialists, including those at the
world-renowned Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. She'd had scoliosis as a child,
resulting in major back problems. One of her legs was significantly shorter
than the other, so she walked with a lifter on one shoe. "Nobody had any
answers," says Frances' husband Jim Dorsey. "She had regular visits with a
chiropractor and that would get her two to five days of relief, and then she
was in pain again." In March of 1997, the two were on a Caribbean cruise. So
was Joe Dalton. They watched him in the ship's auditorium, laying hands on
people and praying over them. The next night, as they took a walk, they
encountered Dalton off duty. Frances explained her dilemma. She told Dalton she
had scoliosis as a child, and that the best medical doctors in the world had
failed to ease her pain. Dalton asked her to sit on a chair and hold her feet
out. Dalton held both feet in his hands and began to pray. "I stood there and
watched the shorter leg extend some two and a half inches," Jim Dorsey says.
"It was immediate. She was out of pain and she no longer needed the shoe lift."
Frances has been free of her pain ever since.
Dalton charges nothing for his services. He never sends around the collection
plate, although some whom he has healed occasionally raise money to pay for his
trips. Dalton became a healer because he too had lived a life of pain. Although
he was a successful opera singer, who ended each day's work with standing
ovations by sellout crowds, Dalton was severely depressed. He remembers the day
in his childhood when the depression set in. "When I was 12 years of age I was
molested in the cinema by some poor homosexual who didn't know any better,"
Dalton says. "At that time, 56 years ago, sex was not mentioned in Ireland-it
was just taboo." Dalton went to a priest for confession, and confided that he'd
been raped. "And he told me I was a disgrace to my family and nearly threw me
out of the confessional," Dalton says. "That was my introduction to the tender
loving mercies of Jesus. I felt unclean. I felt defiled. I felt damned. And the
depression set in at that stage and lasted for 31 years."
Until one day when Dalton was on a train, and noticed a man with a silly grin
on his face reading religious books. He'd seen the man before and was annoyed
by his joyful attitude. "He used to make me sick, just looking at him," Dalton
says. "All I wanted to do was clobber this fellow once." Finally Dalton sat
down with the man to discuss the "nonsense" he was reading about God. A
discussion of religion ensued, and Dalton told the man religious beliefs were
fine for the "emotionally immature, but not for a grown adult."
Then Dalton agreed to read one of the books, called Prison to Praise. "And that
book changed my life," Dalton says. "Because, you know, I was weaned on fear.
You were afraid to go to sleep in case you died of your sins and went to hell.
And even eating meat on Friday was eternal damnation. And if you missed Mass on
Sunday it was double damnation. It was all fear. But this man said God is love
and that God's love is totally unconditional and that God does not love us
because we deserve it. He loves us because we're his children made in his image
and we need his love."
On Dec. 15, 1975, Dalton fell to his knees in the front room of his home. "I
cried out and said, 'Jesus, I'm in a mess. I've been trying and failing. No
matter how hard I try I can't succeed. Now you're my savior. You've paid the
price already so I'm asking you to forgive me, and come and clean up this mess.
Take anything you need and take and change me to the way you want me to be.
Take my life, my wife and children, the house, the job, the music, anything.
And I promise you I'll never complain again as long as I live, if you'd just
change me to the way you want me to be.'" The room filled with light. "It was
like a thousand suns. It was a cloud of light that totally enveloped me,"
Dalton says. "Everything disappeared-the walls, floors, ceilings, and I was
totally enveloped in the cloud and it went right through every fiber of my
being, cleansing me from my head to my toes. And the next thing I knew I was
taken up in the cloud, up and up like into the third heaven." His depression
was instantly gone, and has never returned.
Dalton began attending Catholic prayer meetings, and was asked to share his
testimony. "And when I'd finished speaking this very tall man stood up and said
'While Joe was sharing three people were healed in this hall-a woman with
cancer who was afraid to go to the doctor has been healed, and a man with a
serious heart condition has been healed, and another man who was deaf in his
right ear has been healed.' And I thought to myself, 'another nutcase.'"
Word spread, and people started coming to Dalton for healing. And much to his
surprise, it worked. He prayed over one man who'd been paralyzed in a wheel
chair for six years, and the man climbed a mountain later that day in Bosnia.
"I don't heal anyone," Dalton says. "I lay my hands on people and Christ heals
all sorts of conditions." Many are not healed, however. Most who roll into
Dalton's prayer sessions in wheel chairs roll out in them later that night.
"Healing is a combination of God's power, our faith in God and God's grace,"
says Jim Dorsey. "Some people are graced with a healing from God, and many are
not. I don't know why, but God has his reasons for everything."
Dave Hedgehog
>Relaying a message from janet who is "holed up at work"
>
>"someone here has asked if I know anything about a Charismatic group
>associated with Joe Dalton - apparently Joe is from Ireland and is
>coming here in the near future."
Don't trust him!
Tony Gillam
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background to your advice?
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janet
<deb...@utusheffield.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>Relaying a message from janet who is "holed up at work"
>
>"someone here has asked if I know anything about a Charismatic group
>associated with Joe Dalton - apparently Joe is from Ireland and is
>coming here in the near future."
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Debbie
Thanks, Debbie, for passing this on (she says, having come in -FINALLY -
from introducing students to the delights of Kant and BIDS and mind maps
and such).
The question stems from someone at work, so I said, "I don't know
anything about this person (Joe Dalton) but I know people who will!"
And as always, UKRC has come up trumps, or hearts, or something.
Thanks! Information will be forwarded on to the person involved.
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janet
Richard Emblem
<da...@hedgehog.com> writes:
Why on earth do you say that? Sounds like veiled personal abuse to me :-(
John Casey
much appreciate if you could let me know if Joe is still doing talks ?
John
Kendall K. Down
> On Wednesday, 30 January 2002 at 19:54:21 UTC, Richard Emblem wrote:
>> Joe is a lovely gentle Irishman
the name Richard Emblem as one-time member of uk.r.c, so have allowed it.
God bless,
Kendall K. Down