On 28/11/2021 16:23, Mike Davis wrote:
> I'm sorry, but 'Limbo' is NOT a place (not any part of formal Catholic
> teaching AFAICS*) - it means 'margin/al' and exists as a 'footnote' in
> texts speculating on the destiny of unbaptised infants.
Well, it certainly wasn't John Calvin or Martin Luther who came up with
You might be interested in this quote from "The Catechism Simply
Explained" by Canon Cafferata, 1897.
The Fifth Article
62. What is the fifth article of the Creed?
A The fifth article of the Creed is, "He descended into hell, the
third day He rose again from the dead."
63. What do you mean by the words, ”He descended into hell?
By the words "He descended into hell" I mean that, as soon as
Christ was dead, His blessed soul went down into that part of hell
This is a most important article to understand, because it tells us
about the existence of a third state in the next world. Protestants, you
know, say that there are only two places or states in the next world —
heaven and hell — and, therefore, when a person dies I suppose they must
believe that his soul goes either straight to heaven or straight to
hell. We Catholics believe that there are three places or states in the
next world — heaven, hell and purgatory. Of purgatory proper we shall
speak later on. Here we have to consider the existence of some third
state before the time of our Lord's coming on earth.
You will remember that I spoke to you about the fall of Adam and Eve.
After their fall the gates of heaven were closed against them and their
posterity and were only opened again by the death of Jesus Christ upon
the cross. This, as we all know, happened many thousand of years after
the creation of our first parents, and of course, many, many millions of
people lived and died during those years. The wicked were lost in hell;
but where did the good go to? God could not send them to hell, and you
must remember the gates of heaven were closed, so they must of necessity
have gone to some other place where God kept them until our Lord came to
redeem them. This place was limbo and it was into this place that our
Lord's blessed Soul descended immediately after His death on the cross.
He went there to comfort the souls of the just and to tell them that
they were redeemed. Besides, our Lord Himself spoke of this third state
or place. When the good thief said to Him, as He was dying on the cross,
"Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy kingdom," He answered,
"Amen, I say to thee, this day thou shalt be with Me in Paradise ."
That Paradise could not mean heaven, for our Lord did not ascend there
till the day of the Ascension; it must, therefore, have meant the place
whither Jesus descended immediately after His death. You will now be
able to understand the next two questions of the Catechism.
64. What do you mean by limbo?
By limbo I mean a place of rest, where the souls of the just who
died before Christ were detained.
The word "limbo means a "border" or "fringe, here it means some
place or state on the outside or outskirts of hell.
65. Why were the souls of the just detained in limbo?
The souls of the just were detained in limbo because they could not
go up to the kingdom of heaven until Christ had opened it for them.
So you see that from the time of Adam's fall there were three
distinct places or states of souls in the next world. If this third
place was a reality then, why cannot it be a reality now if there is a
necessity for it? We shall see later on that there is.
I trust that you are not one of those wicked Protestants who thinks
there are only two states in the afterlife!
> I grant you that
> it is a reason why infants are Baptised, but the basis of that also
> stems from the Jewish 40 day ceremony of Circumcism to receive male
> offspring into the Jewish community.
Jewish circumcision was on the eighth day. I think you are getting
confused with "dedication".