Chosen

[Muhammad]

Even when Western media report on the heinous crimes of the IDF, they
absolve the racist partied regime of its blame…

Five-year-old Palestinian girl found dead after being trapped in car
under Israeli fire
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/middleeast/hind-rajab-death-israel-gaza-intl/index.html

Missing 6-Year-Old and Rescue Team Found Dead in Gaza, Aid Group Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/hind-rajab-gaza.html

Hind Rajab: Child found dead in Gaza after plea for help
https://news.sky.com/video/hind-rajab-child-found-dead-in-gaza-after-plea-for-help-13068832

Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68261286?amp%3Bat_campaign=KARANGA

The implicit racism I’ve seen by western MSM, on the Palestinian issue
is astounding.

These crimes are being done with the support of western governments,
with political cover, supply of arms and finance.

The Red Crescent ambulance staff that were sent to save Hind Rajab, the
child that didn’t just mysteriously die, along with that child were
killed by the IDF. I’ve seen a video of an American made anti-tank shell
by the destroyed ambulance. I doubt the J. Goebells of the apartheid
regime will claim Hamas is armed by the USA. In addition there’s
recording of phone calls of agonising call for help, the last
conversation that child had with her mother…

----

231 Palestinians were killed in 2022 by the IDF, the ‘west’ hardly
battered an eyelid. In the 2018/19 peaceful march of return IDF snipers
killed 183, and maimed many thousands… The west continued to supply
weapons, arms, and political cover.

---

The storey of Hind Rajab is a drop in the ocean. The ‘west’ would like
for us to believe, the people that suffered the Holocaust would be
immune from carrying similar acts on others. From the master race to the
chosen people, those acts are being recorded, aired and shown to the
world… Yet, western political elite and parts of media, stay complicit,
duplicitous and facilitate the murder of those not chosen.

---

What I’ve mentioned is a drop in the ocean of the crimes committed by
the IDF… I’ve seen images of torture, acts carried out to prisoners
similar to that as the Nazi’s did, videos of men and women being shot by
Israeli snipers… I’ve seen testimony of men being tortured, abused,
testimony of women being abused, stripped naked, including children…

---

Due to my post, I have far more access than you all, but I decided to
resign in favour of another role…

The current conflict has highlighted many things about western foreign
politics, only those with deficient brain cells and racists can argue
against the truth now.

[GB]

On 11/02/2024 17:01, Muhammad wrote:
>
> I’ve seen a video of an American made anti-tank shell
> by the destroyed ambulance.

I have no idea why anybody would deliberately target an ambulance. But,
also, why would they use an anti-tank shell?

[Kendall K. Down]

On 12/02/2024 17:08, GB wrote:

> I have no idea why anybody would deliberately target an ambulance. But,
> also, why would they use an anti-tank shell?

It's what they had in the breech when the ambulance came into their sights.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

[Muhammad]

On 12/02/2024 17:08, GB wrote:

The tank shell is clearly visible, including in western reporting. The
marking shows it is US' made.

---

Another video shows a mother shot dead, and her maimed child lying next
to her. Hospital staff (or people in the vicinity), threw a wooden board
and rope to try to get the child to safety, as IDF snipers were
targetting anyone that came to help {don't know if that child is alive}.

Another image, after the bombing of Rafah, a dead young girl, appears to
be under 10 years of age, hung on the side of a building by wire with
her legs blown off...

Another video, a father holds his dead child, appears to be under the
age of 2, asking the world for help...

I'm only reporting of what is widely available on the net. I worked for
the US' military; I've resigned from my post...

---

[Kendall K. Down]

On 12/02/2024 22:12, Muhammad wrote:

> I'm only reporting of what is widely available on the net. I worked for
> the US' military; I've resigned from my post...

I hope you manage to get another job without any delay or difficulty.

[GB]

On 12/02/2024 20:21, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 12/02/2024 17:08, GB wrote:
>
>> I have no idea why anybody would deliberately target an ambulance.
>> But, also, why would they use an anti-tank shell?
>
> It's what they had in the breech when the ambulance came into their sights.

Very few targets within Gaza would be suitable for an anti tank shell.
So, given that tanks have limited space for ammunition, I'm surprised
that they carry any.

[GB]

On 12/02/2024 22:12, Muhammad wrote:

> On 12/02/2024 17:08, GB wrote:
>> On 11/02/2024 17:01, Muhammad wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve seen a video of an American made anti-tank shell by the
>>> destroyed ambulance.
>>
>> I have no idea why anybody would deliberately target an ambulance.
>> But, also, why would they use an anti-tank shell?
>>
> The tank shell is clearly visible, including in western reporting. The
> marking shows it is US' made.

I have not seen this video. Are you talking about an APDS?

Perhaps a link to what you have seen, please?

[Steve Hague]

Yes, that would be informative. So far, we seem to have an unused
anti-tank shell beside a destroyed ambulance. That doesn't make sense to me.
Steve Hague

[Kendall K. Down]

On 13/02/2024 12:26, GB wrote:

> Very few targets within Gaza would be suitable for an anti tank shell.
> So, given that tanks have limited space for ammunition, I'm surprised
> that they carry any.

I'm no expert in the matter, but although your comment seems reasonable,
it is possible that anti-tank is also effective against other targets.

[Muhammad]

On 13/02/2024 02:39, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 12/02/2024 22:12, Muhammad wrote:
>
>> I'm only reporting of what is widely available on the net. I worked
>> for the US' military; I've resigned from my post...
>
> I hope you manage to get another job without any delay or difficulty.
>

I did.

[Muhammad]

On 13/02/2024 12:32, GB wrote:

No.

I've seen it on TV, I'm not trawling the internet to find it...

[hermeneutika]

On Sun Feb 11 17:01:23 2024 Muhammad wrote:
>
>
> Even when Western media report on the heinous crimes of the IDF, they

> absolve the racist partied regime of its blame?

>
> Five-year-old Palestinian girl found dead after being trapped in car
> under Israeli fire
> https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/middleeast/hind-rajab-death-israel-gaza-intl/index.html
>
> Missing 6-Year-Old and Rescue Team Found Dead in Gaza, Aid Group Says
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/hind-rajab-gaza.html
>
> Hind Rajab: Child found dead in Gaza after plea for help
> https://news.sky.com/video/hind-rajab-child-found-dead-in-gaza-after-plea-for-help-13068832
>
> Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68261286?amp%3Bat_campaign=KARANGA
>

> The implicit racism I?ve seen by western MSM, on the Palestinian issue

> is astounding.
>
> These crimes are being done with the support of western governments,
> with political cover, supply of arms and finance.
>
> The Red Crescent ambulance staff that were sent to save Hind Rajab, the

> child that didn?t just mysteriously die, along with that child were
> killed by the IDF. I?ve seen a video of an American made anti-tank shell

> by the destroyed ambulance. I doubt the J. Goebells of the apartheid

> regime will claim Hamas is armed by the USA. In addition there?s

> recording of phone calls of agonising call for help, the last

> conversation that child had with her mother?
>
> ----
>
> 231 Palestinians were killed in 2022 by the IDF, the ?west? hardly

> battered an eyelid. In the 2018/19 peaceful march of return IDF snipers

> killed 183, and maimed many thousands? The west continued to supply

> weapons, arms, and political cover.
>
> ---
>

> The storey of Hind Rajab is a drop in the ocean. The ?west? would like

> for us to believe, the people that suffered the Holocaust would be
> immune from carrying similar acts on others. From the master race to the
> chosen people, those acts are being recorded, aired and shown to the

> world? Yet, western political elite and parts of media, stay complicit,

> duplicitous and facilitate the murder of those not chosen.
>
> ---
>

> What I?ve mentioned is a drop in the ocean of the crimes committed by
> the IDF? I?ve seen images of torture, acts carried out to prisoners
> similar to that as the Nazi?s did, videos of men and women being shot by
> Israeli snipers? I?ve seen testimony of men being tortured, abused,
> testimony of women being abused, stripped naked, including children?

>
> ---
>
> Due to my post, I have far more access than you all, but I decided to

> resign in favour of another role?

>
> The current conflict has highlighted many things about western foreign
> politics, only those with deficient brain cells and racists can argue
> against the truth now.
>
>
>

I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct 7 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought not to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians

[Kendall K. Down]

On 17/02/2024 14:52, hermeneutika wrote:

> I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct 7 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought not to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians

When it comes to murdering civilians, there's not much to choose between
the two sides.

The fact is that the "rules of war" are a Christian thing and
non-Christians fail to recognise them and certainly don't bother to
implement them.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

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[John]

On 17/02/2024 14:52, hermeneutika wrote:

> On Sun Feb 11 17:01:23 2024 Muhammad wrote:

+

> I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct 7 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought not to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians

I don't think anyone disagrees with you that 7th October was a wicked
and despicable attack on defenceless Israeli's. I'm sure that Muhammad
also rightly condemned it.

It's the total onslaught afterwards that we disagree with.

[Muhammad]

On 17/02/2024 19:49, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 17/02/2024 14:52, hermeneutika wrote:
>
>> I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct 7
>> 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought not
>> to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians
>
> When it comes to murdering civilians, there's not much to choose between
> the two sides.
>
> The fact is that the "rules of war" are a Christian thing and
> non-Christians fail to recognise them and certainly don't bother to
> implement them.

Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub

[Muhammad]

The problem is did we agree with the over 200 Palestinians killed in
2022, did we agree with the near 200 killed in the peace march of return
and thousands maimed...

This didn't start on Oct 7, it accelerated. People are being killed and
areas are being ethically cleansed in the West Bank too.

UK, doesn't recognise a Palestinian state, and continues to supply arms,
finance, media and political cover to Israel's apartheid colonial regime.

[John]

On 18/02/2024 10:01, Muhammad wrote:
> On 17/02/2024 22:40, John wrote:
>> On 17/02/2024 14:52, hermeneutika wrote:
>>> On Sun Feb 11 17:01:23 2024 Muhammad  wrote:
>> +
>>> I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct 7
>>> 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought not
>>> to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians
>>
>> I don't think anyone disagrees with you that 7th October was a wicked
>> and despicable attack on defenceless Israeli's.  I'm sure that
>> Muhammad also rightly condemned it.
>>
>> It's the total onslaught afterwards that we disagree with.
>>
>>
>
> The problem is did we agree with the over 200 Palestinians killed in
> 2022, did we agree with the near 200 killed in the peace march of return
> and thousands maimed...

Well I certainly don't agree with it, but neither do I agree with Hamas
attacking Israel, well before 7th October. From my reading Hamas
violently gained control of Gaza back in 2007. Hamas doesn't recognise
Israel and wants it wiped off the map, a feeling shared by Netanyahu the
other way round.

> This didn't start on Oct 7, it accelerated. People are being killed and
> areas are being ethically cleansed in the West Bank too.

There needs to be a long term solution towards peace, there has been
fighting on both sides for decades, and thanks to the msm you deplore, I
have learned Israel Govts doesn't come out smelling of roses, far from it.

I don't know your age so you may not know but the IRA set off bombs in
this country in the 70's and 80's and it took sustained efforts on both
sides to come to a peaceful solution. Admittedly this is on a much
greater scale, but a continued war has no winners. The losers are the
tens of thousands of innocent civilians killed, not just Palestinians,
but Israelis too.

> UK, doesn't recognise a Palestinian state, and continues to supply arms,
> finance, media and political cover to Israel's apartheid colonial regime.

Have you got evidence for all that? You are aware I'm sure you're aware
that we've supplied 387m of aid to Gaza in this financial year, £60m
since October.

There is to be another commons vote on a call for a ceasfire next week.
I'm really hoping the MP's can get behind it and vote for it. Labour
"seem" to be moving in that direection, it'll be interesting to see what
the Conservatives do.

[Madhu]

* John <uqsub9$12ffi$1 @dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:48:40 +0000:

> I don't know your age

[younger than I thought, from comments on 2001 and the propaganda job]

> so you may not know but the IRA set off bombs in
> this country in the 70's and 80's and it took sustained efforts on
> both sides to come to a peaceful solution. Admittedly this is on a
> much greater scale, but a continued war has no winners

The financiers and investors of the worldwide war industries and the
defence budgets are the consistent winners. What's more they are safe
and enjoy their winnings in peace and security, at least until the
parousia.

[Muhammad]

On 18/02/2024 12:48, John wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 10:01, Muhammad wrote:
>> On 17/02/2024 22:40, John wrote:
>>> On 17/02/2024 14:52, hermeneutika wrote:
>>>> On Sun Feb 11 17:01:23 2024 Muhammad  wrote:
>>> +
>>>> I wonder if anyone has found out about the muslim atrocities on oct
>>>> 7 2023.....of course two wrongs dont make a right! But islam ought
>>>> not to have brutally murdered defenseless civilians
>>

>> The problem is did we agree with the over 200 Palestinians killed in
>> 2022, did we agree with the near 200 killed in the peace march of
>> return and thousands maimed...
>
> Well I certainly don't agree with it, but neither do I agree with Hamas
> attacking Israel, well before 7th October. From my reading Hamas
> violently gained control of Gaza back in 2007

They were voted in... PLO was being backed by the USA et al, weren't
looking to leave, Hamas did commit crimes in removing them. Hamas was in
part later funded by Israel, as it was seen as a movement more prone to
violence. Thus, Israel was able to divide and claim no-one peaceful to
negotiate with...

>.  Hamas doesn't recognise

> Israel and wants it wiped off the map, a feeling shared by Netanyahu the
> other way round.
>

The Likud Party, I've written about their river to the sea (only Jewish
control)... Others share the same sentiments...

>
>> This didn't start on Oct 7, it accelerated. People are being killed
>> and areas are being ethically cleansed in the West Bank too.
>
> There needs to be a long term solution towards peace, there has been
> fighting on both sides for decades, and thanks to the msm you deplore, I
> have learned Israel Govts doesn't come out smelling of roses, far from it.
>

Over 200 killed in 2022...
The West Bank is being also being ethnically cleansed...

> I don't know your age so you may not know but the IRA set off bombs in
> this country in the 70's and 80's and it took sustained efforts on both
> sides to come to a peaceful solution.

It is more likely, that Hamas will accept as real two-state solution,
than Israel. To date the evidence supports that.

As of Nov 23, The Times, showed polls in Israel, nearly 60% thought the
IDF wasn't using enough firepower, with only 1.8% saying too much force
was being used... with just over 37% wanting some sort of two-state
solution.

>
>> UK, doesn't recognise a Palestinian state, and continues to supply
>> arms, finance, media and political cover to Israel's apartheid
>> colonial regime.
>
> Have you got evidence for all that?

UK training IDF personal.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/u-k-is-training-israeli-military-in-britain/

Sending weapons...

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israel-gaza-uk-arms-exports-airstrikes-b1851734.html

I won't get into the business deals...some of them include Rishi Sunak's
wife's family business, Infosys...

The political cover has been obvious and media cover gets exposed when
one looks at other media channels, including some of them from Israel.

i24 News, showed, much of the rape, babies beheaded etc was all
fabricated, there were interviews of Israeli survivors stating many
Israelis died as a result of “friendly” fire… I'm relatively certain
many of the cars that were fully burnt out, were struck by the IDF air
force; likely Hamas fighters with hostages in them.

*There's no doubt in my mind, that Hamas committed grave crimes on that
day*. But, it was sensationalised to make way for what would happen
next... Element of British media are still playing those lines of mass
rape, beheaded babies...

---

I couldn't find full videos, but found someone reacting to some stuff...

How much of this is constantly replayed, like the crimes of Oct 7th. The
Palestinians crimes are being shows, for there's a new crime inflicted
upon them daily...

Stripped naked hostages, including children...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxX0yPFISdk


Israeli journalist refuttes some of the Oct 7 lies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4uLjCztfI

> You are aware I'm sure you're aware
> that we've supplied 387m of aid to Gaza in this financial year, £60m
> since October.
>

Labour MP's have accepted funds of near £280,000 from Pro-Israel lobby
groups...

https://www.declassifieduk.org/labour-mps-have-accepted-over-280000-from-israel-lobby/

[Kendall K. Down]

On 18/02/2024 09:55, Muhammad wrote:

> Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub

Saladin was certainly chivalrous and put the Crusaders to shame, but to
claim that he adhered to the rules of war as understood today is going a
bit far.

For example: he enslaved thousands of his prisoners (both civilians and
soldiers), which is contrary to the modern rules of law.

[Muhammad]

On 18/02/2024 18:34, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 09:55, Muhammad wrote:
>
>> Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub
>
> Saladin was certainly chivalrous and put the Crusaders to shame, but to
> claim that he adhered to the rules of war as understood today is going a
> bit far.
>
> For example: he enslaved thousands of his prisoners (both civilians and
> soldiers), which is contrary to the modern rules of law.
>

When it matters, even USA et al, do away with the rules... I believe Gb
mentioned it...

However, AFAIK, USA et al in general do attempt to follow the rules,
even though many a time some individuals and groups letting them down...
However, that is brought about by a culture designed at times.

[John]

On 18/02/2024 12:48, John wrote:

> Have you got evidence for all that? You are aware I'm sure you're aware
> that we've supplied 387m of aid to Gaza in this financial year, £60m
> since October.

Sorry, I forgot to press on the shit key! That should read £87m of aid

[Kendall K. Down]

On 18/02/2024 23:36, John wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot to press on the shit key!

If I were you, I'd take that keyboard back to the manufacturer and
demand a refund.

[GB]

On 18/02/2024 17:19, Muhammad wrote:

> i24 News, showed, much of the rape, babies beheaded etc was all
> fabricated

That seems, umm, surprising. Here's a link to i24 https://www.i24news.tv/en

Could you kindly guide us to where they showed what you allege.

[GB]

On 19/02/2024 06:23, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 23:36, John wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I forgot to press on the shit key!
>
> If I were you, I'd take that keyboard back to the manufacturer and
> demand a refund.

:)

One firm I worked for used to have people come round and sanitise the
telephones.

[Muhammad]

Will this do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4uLjCztfI

[GB]

Does that have any connection with i24 News?

[John]

On 19/02/2024 06:23, Kendall K. Down wrote:

> On 18/02/2024 23:36, John wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I forgot to press on the shit key!
>
> If I were you, I'd take that keyboard back to the manufacturer and
> demand a refund.

For f's sake!!!

I think I ought to, I normally check for missing letters but failed to
do so on this occasion.

[Timreason]

It was a funny typo, though!

Tim.

[Muhammad]

No... I couldn't find the one I saw with the i24 logo.

However, I've provided a video which shows Israeli journalists,
accepting there were 'fibs' told about the Oct 7th attacks...

I accept Hamas (and/or those that through) killed innocent people, in
some instances raped and likely killed children. Was killing children
not severe enough, that the IDF and media (holding hands with western
media) needed to tell of babies beheaded, mass rape... Why did they lie.

---

On the other hand... Them most moral army in the world is

"UN experts* today expressed alarm over credible allegations of
egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls
continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank..."

“We are shocked by reports of the deliberate targeting and extrajudicial
killing of Palestinian women and children in places where they sought
refuge, or while fleeing. Some of them were reportedly holding white
pieces of cloth when they were killed by the Israeli army or affiliated
forces,” the experts said."

“We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and
girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual
assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army
officers. At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly
raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual
violence,” the experts said. They also noted that photos of female
detainees in degrading circumstances were also reportedly taken by the
Israeli army and uploaded online."

ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

OHCHR - According to Israel possibly another Hamas front.

[John]

It was to be fair.

[Kendall K. Down]

On 20/02/2024 19:14, Muhammad wrote:

> I accept Hamas (and/or those that through) killed innocent people, in
> some instances raped and likely killed children. Was killing children
> not severe enough, that the IDF and media (holding hands with western
> media) needed to tell of babies beheaded, mass rape... Why did they lie.

Given the Islamic penchant for beheading - see all the Daesh hostages
killed in that manner - I find nothing incredible in the suggestion that
babies were beheaded. "Mass rape" is more problematic: how many rapes do
you need to qualify as "mass"? Multiple rapes I would have no problem
believing.

God bless,
Kendall K. Down

[Muhammad]

On 21/02/2024 06:30, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> On 20/02/2024 19:14, Muhammad wrote:
>
>> I accept Hamas (and/or those that through) killed innocent people, in
>> some instances raped and likely killed children. Was killing children
>> not severe enough, that the IDF and media (holding hands with western
>> media) needed to tell of babies beheaded, mass rape... Why did they lie.
>
> Given the Islamic penchant for beheading - see all the Daesh hostages
> killed in that manner - I find nothing incredible in the suggestion that
> babies were beheaded. "Mass rape" is more problematic: how many rapes do
> you need to qualify as "mass"? Multiple rapes I would have no problem
> believing.
>

Broad paint brush, as usual....

Your question is silly to say the least...

Look at what I wrote in context, including the link I gave, showing
Israeli news media calling out some lies told of Oct 7th attacks.