On 09/08/2022 05:32, Kendall K. Down wrote:
> Apparently Olivia Newton John died yesterday - condolences to all
> affected, of course. Among the news reports is one that remarks on her
> "faith" - which appears to be the usual wishy-washy "I think there is
> something spiritual out there" shared by so many these days.
> However the report then claims that when Olivia was pregnant and in
> danger of losing her daughter, she made "a pact with God" that she would
> recite the Lord's Prayer every night if her daughter was saved. The
> child was born safely and Olivia kept her bargain.
> What puzzles me is why she should think that reciting Jesus' model
> prayer would make any difference to some amorphous "spirituality"? What
> is there about the words of that prayer that affects "the energies of
> all the people you love"?
> On the other hand, if there actually is something special about Jesus
> and the prayer He taught, might it not be a good idea to focus on Him?
> How about going to church, where *everyone* recites the Lord's Prayer?
> How about reading the Bible and discovering what else Jesus said which
> might change one's life?
Yeah, but Cliff Richard was her mate, surely that counts!!
She was a spiritual person, but I wouldn't say she was a Christian,
certainly not in the way you understand it. Then again, the vast
majority of the 49% of people in the UK who say they are Christian can
probably be discounted for the same reason.
But she brought joy to a lot of people through her singing, including
me. She is one of my favourite singers, and wasn't a bad person. I
appreciate that probably cuts no ice with Him upstairs, but being a good
person is surely better than being a bad person?
> Olivia may have been beautiful and vivacious and a splendid actress, but
> logic and rationality were obviously not her strong points.
What the flying fig has logic and rationality got to do with it?
Christianity (or at least my understanding of it) requires a child like
acceptance of Christ as your Saviour. Unless you've been touched by the
Holy Spirit, going to church, reading the bible, reciting prayers etc,
won't get you anywhere.