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Mike George

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Feb 17, 2001, 1:54:19 AM2/17/01
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If anybody is thinking about buying these, the March edition of
Electronics World has an offer of a pair for UKP75.
--
Mike George in Bristol, UK
http://www.nbmajortom.com/

Michael J Wooding

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Feb 17, 2001, 5:16:07 AM2/17/01
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Mike,

Are they just 'walkie-talkies' or business radios?

Mike

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Mike George

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Feb 17, 2001, 5:06:32 PM2/17/01
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:16:07 -0000, "Michael J Wooding"
<mic...@thewoodings.screaming.net> wrote:

>Mike,
>
>Are they just 'walkie-talkies' or business radios?
>

I'm not sure what you mean by business radios, but I think they're the
same kind of thing we bought in Tandy last year for about UKP80 each.

Michael J Wooding

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Feb 18, 2001, 10:32:40 AM2/18/01
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Mike George <mi...@nbmajortom.com-nospam> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:16:07 -0000, "Michael J Wooding"
> <mic...@thewoodings.screaming.net> wrote:
>
> >Mike,
> >
> >Are they just 'walkie-talkies' or business radios?
> >
> I'm not sure what you mean by business radios, but I think they're the
> same kind of thing we bought in Tandy last year for about UKP80 each.

Basically Mike,

Walkie-talkies are not much more than kid's toys, with a limited range and
usually totally unsuitable frequency of operation.

Business radios are,if you like, the professionalversion of w-t's,with a
useful range of up to 3km and they operate on a sensible band.

The one's you bought previously by the price tag are business radios.

Brian on Harnser

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Feb 18, 2001, 3:08:48 PM2/18/01
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"Michael J Wooding" <mic...@thewoodings.screaming.net> wrote in message
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> Mike George <mi...@nbmajortom.com-nospam> wrote in message
> news:3a8ef59e...@news.clara.net...
> > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:16:07 -0000, "Michael J Wooding"
> > <mic...@thewoodings.screaming.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Mike,
> > >
> > >Are they just 'walkie-talkies' or business radios?
> > >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by business radios, but I think they're the
> > same kind of thing we bought in Tandy last year for about UKP80 each.
>
> Basically Mike,
>
> Walkie-talkies are not much more than kid's toys, with a limited range and
> usually totally unsuitable frequency of operation.
>
> Business radios are,if you like, the professionalversion of w-t's,with a
> useful range of up to 3km and they operate on a sensible band.
>
> The one's you bought previously by the price tag are business radios.
>
> Mike
So how do we find out?

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Brian from sunny Suffolk by the river Hundred

squilsh

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Feb 18, 2001, 4:50:04 PM2/18/01
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The 'walkie-talkies' I think you are talking about are a recently introduced
type called 'PMR 446' (Personal Mobile Radio 446 MHz), they are a
pan-European standard for general use, with a range of about two miles,
depending on terrain (an approximate line-of-sight is required). Only
handhelds are available, which have less power and less efficient aerials
than mobile sets would have, so this limits range. I haven't used them
myself, but you might have problems on the canals if you're in a cutting.

Other radio systems you could use include CB, with mobiles fitted in the
boats, handhelds are also available but are somewhat bulky with large
aerials, due to the relatively long wavelength, 10 metres/27 MHz, aerial
size is related to wavelength for efficient operation. However range should
be better at this frequency, and with more power from mobiles.

Also there is marine VHF, which I believe is permitted on inland waterways,
but you need a special licence to use it. Mobiles and handhelds are
available.

Finally there is amateur radio, you need to pass a technical exam, but you
can use all kinds of frequencies and equipment. See the magazine 'Practical
Wireless' for details, or visit www.rsgb.org.uk

Alex Craig,

radio amateur M1HAR, (Market Harborough!)

member Old Union Canal Society.


Chris Rigden

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Feb 19, 2001, 5:43:06 AM2/19/01
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Would two handsets for a digital phone do as well (in a
narrowboating context)? Many of them can talk to each other
without reference to the base station.

Chris

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Christine Rigden
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Michael J Wooding

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Feb 19, 2001, 1:21:57 PM2/19/01
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Brian on Harnser <brian...@harnser.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote in message
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Price usually Brian, you gets what you pay for. However, a good guide is
that if they operate on 400+ MHz then they are almost certainly business
radios

Michael J Wooding

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Feb 19, 2001, 1:23:47 PM2/19/01
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<$im...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Brian on Harnser said in <96pctg$1fj$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>:
> Look for the information that they are PMR -Personal Mobile Radios -
> that seems to be the spec for 144 MHz hand-helds.
>

OOOOOOH I hope not - that's an amateur band, for which you need a licence to
operate on.

Seriously though, there are some 144 MHz ones which are just above and below
the amateur allocation, but most I believe are UHF these days.

M.J.Powell

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Feb 19, 2001, 3:06:01 PM2/19/01
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In article <u2e09t89fknon50vu...@4ax.com>, $im...@127.0.0.1
writes

>Brian on Harnser said in <96pctg$1fj$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>:
>
>Look for the information that they are PMR -Personal Mobile Radios -
>that seems to be the spec for 144 MHz hand-helds.

144 MHz is an Amateur Band. you need a licence for use here.

Mike
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M.J.Powell

squilsh

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Feb 20, 2001, 5:11:45 PM2/20/01
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I don't know about that, this facility isn't mentioned in the instructions
with my mobile phone (Motorola/One 2 One).

It would sound like a pair of PMR 446 handhelds are what you want.


Brian on Harnser

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Feb 20, 2001, 6:09:38 PM2/20/01
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Well,
are they good ones or just cheap "O"

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Brian from sunny Suffolk by the river Hundred

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John Lee

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Feb 20, 2001, 3:14:13 AM2/20/01
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M.J.Powell <mi...@pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrote

> >Look for the information that they are PMR -Personal Mobile
Radios -
> >that seems to be the spec for 144 MHz hand-helds.
>
> 144 MHz is an Amateur Band. you need a licence for use here.
>

PMR is on 446 MHz. RS have them at UKP66 each, or UKP64 for 2-4. Plus
VAT.

John.

M.J.Powell

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Feb 21, 2001, 7:01:25 AM2/21/01
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In article <t96upa...@corp.supernews.co.uk>, John Lee
<john...@lineone.net> writes

Back page of 'Innovations' catalogue has 2 for 99 GBP.

Mike
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M.J.Powell

Michael J Wooding

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Feb 21, 2001, 12:40:49 PM2/21/01
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Probably a very good price Brian. I bought our pair for £99

Mike

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Harry Whitfield

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Feb 21, 2001, 12:31:22 PM2/21/01
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In article <BPtiZIAV...@pickmere.demon.co.uk>,
M.J.Powell <mi...@pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <t96upa...@corp.supernews.co.uk>, John Lee
> <john...@lineone.net> writes
> >

> >PMR is on 446 MHz. RS have them at UKP66 each, or UKP64 for 2-4. Plus
> >VAT.
>
> Back page of 'Innovations' catalogue has 2 for 99 GBP.

Compass Watersports has 2 Alan 451 PMR walkie-talkies for £79.90,
Ref: L 965 521, but you would need to check that they are PMR446.

http://www.compaswatersports.ltd.uk

Harry.

Neil

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Feb 26, 2001, 7:44:13 PM2/26/01
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Harry Whitfield wrote in message
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I have been using a pair of Motorola TA288's for some time now.

I did have a pair of Alan 456(PMR446) sets. Had to return one them to the
supplier TWICE under warranty as the PTT switches first on one, then both of
them went intermittently high resistance. Eventually got a refund after
only about 3 months use.

My usage of the radios is on a daily basis. I subsequently found a pair of
the TA288's in a local 2nd hand shop at "a good price." So far they have
performed faultlessly, and are infinitely better made. They would have been
quite expensive new.

Guess you really do get what you pay for!

Neil

Harry Whitfield

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Feb 27, 2001, 6:03:51 AM2/27/01
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In article <97evc8$ia2$2...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, Neil
<Har...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I did have a pair of Alan 456(PMR446) sets. Had to return one them to the
> supplier TWICE under warranty as the PTT switches first on one, then both of
> them went intermittently high resistance. Eventually got a refund after
> only about 3 months use.
>
> My usage of the radios is on a daily basis. I subsequently found a pair of
> the TA288's in a local 2nd hand shop at "a good price." So far they have
> performed faultlessly, and are infinitely better made. They would have been
> quite expensive new.
>
> Guess you really do get what you pay for!

You are probably correct. I notice that Compass also sell a more
expensive version. I have no direct experience of either.

I have a pair of ROSS DA007 CallFree Radios, Type GEE4M3, which I
bought from Maplin. I've not had any trouble with them, but they don't
get heavy use.

Harry.

Dave Mayall

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Feb 28, 2001, 11:18:20 AM2/28/01
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:11:45 -0000, "squilsh" <squ...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>I don't know about that, this facility isn't mentioned in the instructions
>with my mobile phone (Motorola/One 2 One).

I think we are talking about digital cordless landline phones (DECT)
as opposed to mobile phones. These do indeed provide an intercom
between 2 handsets.

--
Dave Mayall

Dave Wedd

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Feb 28, 2001, 7:18:15 PM2/28/01
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"Harry Whitfield" <harry.w...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Maplin currently have some PMR446 radios on special offer:-
Stock Code Description
DS17 Two Walkie Talkies, Two Chargers & Batteries - 2 Km range
Normal Price: £169.99 Promotion Price: £99.99 Save: £70.00
https://catalogue.maplin.co.uk/direct/promo.asp?itemID=2562&PromoName=

I've been trying the Goodmans Tracker radios (about £90 or £100 per pair),
and the system seems good. Only major problems seems to be that the volume
control turns too easily and so you don't hear someone calling you. Some of
the NiCd batteries supplied were dud, but I replaced them with NiMh which
last twice as long anyway.

Dave Wedd.


Guy Morgan

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Mar 1, 2001, 4:49:40 AM3/1/01
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In article <EBgn6.2478$Xe3.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, Dave
Wedd <NOSPA...@ntlworld.com> writes

>Maplin currently have some PMR446 radios on special offer:-
>Stock Code Description
>DS17 Two Walkie Talkies, Two Chargers & Batteries - 2 Km range
>Normal Price: £169.99 Promotion Price: £99.99 Save: £70.00
>https://catalogue.maplin.co.uk/direct/promo.asp?itemID=2562&PromoName=
>
One set ordered. I couldn't resist at that price! I'll report how good
they are in due course.

Guy
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Julian Tether

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Mar 1, 2001, 3:34:23 PM3/1/01
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In article <9xYq$ND0sh...@btinternet.com>, Guy Morgan
<g...@first-light-services.co.uk> writes

>One set ordered. I couldn't resist at that price! I'll report how good
>they are in due course.
Just a quick question?

If you are single handed boating does this mean that you will be talking
to yourself :-)
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Guy Morgan

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Mar 1, 2001, 6:48:54 PM3/1/01
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In article <N3$EqvAPJ...@btinternet.com>, Julian Tether
<Jul...@idleness.co.uk> writes

>In article <9xYq$ND0sh...@btinternet.com>, Guy Morgan
><g...@first-light-services.co.uk> writes
>>One set ordered. I couldn't resist at that price! I'll report how good
>>they are in due course.
>Just a quick question?
>
>If you are single handed boating does this mean that you will be talking
>to yourself :-)

As usual!

Mike George

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Mar 2, 2001, 5:24:01 AM3/2/01
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:49:40 +0000, Guy Morgan
<g...@first-light-services.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <EBgn6.2478$Xe3.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, Dave
>Wedd <NOSPA...@ntlworld.com> writes
>>Maplin currently have some PMR446 radios on special offer:-
>>Stock Code Description
>>DS17 Two Walkie Talkies, Two Chargers & Batteries - 2 Km range
>>Normal Price: £169.99 Promotion Price: £99.99 Save: £70.00

In the March edition of Electronics World there's a reader offer of
two PMR446 radios for UKP75.00 + VAT + postage. Not sure about the
batteries.

Connie Evans

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Mar 2, 2001, 5:55:59 AM3/2/01
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Julian Tether wrote in message ...

>In article <9xYq$ND0sh...@btinternet.com>, Guy Morgan
><g...@first-light-services.co.uk> writes
>>One set ordered. I couldn't resist at that price! I'll report how good
>>they are in due course.
>Just a quick question?
>
>If you are single handed boating does this mean that you will be talking
>to yourself :-)

Of course! That's when he has his best conversations! :)

Connie

su4704

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Mar 3, 2001, 7:53:55 AM3/3/01
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Have not been following this thread but whilst looking for trailers came
across the following ... click on 'special offers' section.

http://www.discount-towing.co.uk/shop/


Steve.


M.J.Powell

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Mar 5, 2001, 4:00:57 PM3/5/01
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In article <e4sv9tof2n6gndklc...@4ax.com>, martinp
<mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes

>On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:34:23 +0000, Julian Tether
><Jul...@idleness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <9xYq$ND0sh...@btinternet.com>, Guy Morgan
>> <g...@first-light-services.co.uk> writes
>> >One set ordered. I couldn't resist at that price! I'll report how good
>> >they are in due course.
>> Just a quick question?
>>
>> If you are single handed boating does this mean that you will be talking
>> to yourself :-)
>
>and why would he need a walkie talkie to do it?

One for each end of the boat?

Mike
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M.J.Powell

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