trailer wanted for 26ft dawncraft cruiser
Bernard Morgan
cruisers.
I have a 25ft dawncraft and require to know the weight of this boat.
Im also looking for a suitable trailer to transport it.
Please can anyone help.
Bernard Morgan
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 06:23:51 -0800, "Bernard Morgan"
<e.b.m...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Paul E. Bennett
e.b.m...@dial.pipex.com "Bernard Morgan" writes:
Based on the assumption that it is a narrow beam boat that draws about
12 inches I have calculated that your displacement is approximately
3.3 tonnes. If you have different figures I will re-run the
calculations for you.
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Ron Jones
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:53:42 +0000 (UTC), p...@amleth.demon.co.uk ("Paul
> E. Bennett") wrote:
>
>> In article <40473bf5$0$24367$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>
>> e.b.m...@dial.pipex.com "Bernard Morgan" writes:
>>
>>> Does anyone out there know of a source of information about
>>> dawncraft canal cruisers.
>>> I have a 25ft dawncraft and require to know the weight of this boat.
>>> Im also looking for a suitable trailer to transport it.
>>> Please can anyone help.
>>>
>>> Bernard Morgan
>>
>> Based on the assumption that it is a narrow beam boat that draws
>> about 12 inches I have calculated that your displacement is
>> approximately
>> 3.3 tonnes. If you have different figures I will re-run the
>> calculations for you.
>
> Make: Dawncraft.
> Model: 25.
> Length: 25 foot (7.6 Metres)
> Width: 6 foot 10 inches (2 metres)
> Draft: 14 Inches (47.5 Cm)
> Construction:Wood, GRP (Glass Reinforced Plastic) Sheved
> Date Of Construction: (Approximately): 1976
> Engine: None, Takes an inboard engine. Has a Z-Drive fitted.
> Berths: 3 (Three singles)
> Facilities: Sink, Gas hob and grill & toilet compartment.
> Boat Safety Certificate: No. (Due to its project state)
> Condition: In good condition for a project boat.
> Fitted out, painted and Z-Drive fitted. Requires engine and TLC.
> NOTE: This boat is sold without warranty (Sold As Seen) due to its
> price and project state.
That's the inboard version. I suspect there is an outboard one as well,
which will be lighter. The original enquiry didn't specify the engine type.
There's a far sweep on the nose of these, so it's only about 20ft in the
water.
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Glen Peckett
<Snip>
> That's the inboard version. I suspect there is an outboard one as well,
> which will be lighter.
Actually not sure it will be!
IIRC with the Dawncrafts (and I used to own an outboard 25') the
Inboard engined 25 is a 22' with a longer cockpit at the back, there's
less cabin, fittings, etc. so unless it's got a very big engine for
the boat I doubt it's that much heavier than an outboard version
(obviously also depending on the outboard - mine had a 25hp Johnson
Electric Start 2-Stroke that was probably heavier than some inboard
diesels)!
To return to the question about weight though IIRC around 3 1/2
tonnes.
Glen
Paul E. Bennett
m...@privacy.net "martin" writes:
> >Based on the assumption that it is a narrow beam boat that draws about
> >12 inches I have calculated that your displacement is approximately
> >3.3 tonnes. If you have different figures I will re-run the
> >calculations for you.
>
> http://www.used-boat.co.uk/dawncraft25(2).html
> Make: Dawncraft.
> Model: 25.
> Length: 25 foot (7.6 Metres)
> Width: 6 foot 10 inches (2 metres)
> Draft: 14 Inches (47.5 Cm)
My calcs returned 5 Tonnes. Amazing how much more weight there is in
two inches worth of depth. That boat will take some heavy vehicle
for towing (something that needs HGV1 me-thinks).
You may find a flatbed lorry with heavy duty Hy-ab (sp??) would be
the most suitable vehicle. I have a couple of company names as I
used one of them for moving Amleth's Gem more local to myself. I
will be using them again when it goes to the water (currently
estimated as April 3rd).
Phil
""Paul E. Bennett"" <p...@amleth.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <4haf40pmg7aqar7cv...@4ax.com>
> m...@privacy.net "martin" writes:
>
> > >Based on the assumption that it is a narrow beam boat that draws about
> > >12 inches I have calculated that your displacement is approximately
> > >3.3 tonnes. If you have different figures I will re-run the
> > >calculations for you.
> >
> > http://www.used-boat.co.uk/dawncraft25(2).html
> > Make: Dawncraft.
> > Model: 25.
> > Length: 25 foot (7.6 Metres)
> > Width: 6 foot 10 inches (2 metres)
> > Draft: 14 Inches (47.5 Cm)
>
> My calcs returned 5 Tonnes. Amazing how much more weight there is in
> two inches worth of depth. That boat will take some heavy vehicle
> for towing (something that needs HGV1 me-thinks).
(Surveyors guestimate hat on)
I don't think the Dawncraft is anything like that weight.
Have you assumed that it is flat bottomed in your
calculations? I thought they were a shallow V hull with
keel. IMHO the average cross-sectional draft will be
much less than 14 ins, Probably less than 9 ins.
Allowing for flare and curvature of the bow I reckon less
than 3 tons. Probably nearer 2.5 tons.
Cheers
Phil
(flat cap back on)
tony
"Phil" <wa...@rec.com> wrote:
If it helps my Dandy (19 feet) is about 1.5 tonnes unladen.
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My original guess (on fubc) was 1.5 to 2 tons, I can see 2.5 being
reasonable. Still need some decent wheels to tow it!
Paul E. Bennett
uk...@waterways.com writes:
> > > http://www.used-boat.co.uk/dawncraft25(2).html
> > > Make: Dawncraft.
> > > Model: 25.
> > > Length: 25 foot (7.6 Metres)
> > > Width: 6 foot 10 inches (2 metres)
> > > Draft: 14 Inches (47.5 Cm)
> >
> > My calcs returned 5 Tonnes. Amazing how much more weight there is in
> > two inches worth of depth. That boat will take some heavy vehicle
> > for towing (something that needs HGV1 me-thinks).
>
>
> (Surveyors guestimate hat on)
>
> I don't think the Dawncraft is anything like that weight.
> Have you assumed that it is flat bottomed in your
> calculations? I thought they were a shallow V hull with
> keel. IMHO the average cross-sectional draft will be
> much less than 14 ins, Probably less than 9 ins.
My calculations assumed a very shallow V hull (almost flat but not
quite) with most of the length of the vessel's 25ft in the water.
The programme is only an initial rough-out calculation that gives
me the sort of motor power needed for a size of boat. It calculates
displacement as part of the process.
> Allowing for flare and curvature of the bow I reckon less
> than 3 tons. Probably nearer 2.5 tons.
At least the OP is going to know what the worst case load and a more
likely lighter figure is like. My first cut calcs (before more
complete info) was 3.3 tonnes. I hope the information has been useful.
The calculations are in several books on boat design and has also
been in PBO during 2002/3. If you want more accurate calculations
then someone needs to spend a lot of time with tape measure and a
calculator to crunch all the numbers.