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Dave Mayall

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:34:51 PM9/17/01
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Just to let those who are likely to be in the area over the next few
days know.

Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.

This is yet another water scour problem. BW are working on scour in
the tail bridge of Lock 7 and Lock 12 was the cause of a stoppage last
year. Might one suggest that some pointing is in order.

Apparently, BW are hoping to offer assisted passage through the lock
whilst assesment and repairs proceed, but check with them.

Our crewman who was stood there when the hole appeared, and vanished
underground was somewhat shaken :-)

--
Dave Mayall

Molly

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:56:56 PM9/17/01
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, in article <7rtcqt8udl66s4vcagvaso7f9chpng1ics@news
.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
<david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote

>Our crewman who was stood there when the hole appeared, and vanished
>underground was somewhat shaken :-)

I hope that you don't mean that the crewman vanished underground, or I
would completely appreciate why he was somewhat shaken.
--
Molly Mockford
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http://www.pagination.co.uk

Dave Mayall

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Sep 18, 2001, 2:50:58 AM9/18/01
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:56:56 +0100, Molly
<mo...@mockfords-nospam.clara.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, in article <7rtcqt8udl66s4vcagvaso7f9chpng1ics@news
>.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
><david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote
>
>>Our crewman who was stood there when the hole appeared, and vanished
>>underground was somewhat shaken :-)
>
>I hope that you don't mean that the crewman vanished underground, or I
>would completely appreciate why he was somewhat shaken.

I mean *exactly* that.

He had been sat on the balance beam after raising the gate paddle. As
the levels equalised, he stood up and took a step towards the end of
the beam to open the gate, at which point the ground underneath him
collapsed and he found himself at the bottom of a 4ft deep hole.

--
Dave Mayall

Martin Clark

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Sep 18, 2001, 2:55:07 PM9/18/01
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I may be imagining things, but I thought Dave Mayall muttered something
about...

>
>Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
>apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.
>
>This is yet another water scour problem. BW are working on scour in
>the tail bridge of Lock 7 and Lock 12 was the cause of a stoppage last
>year. Might one suggest that some pointing is in order.
>
British Waterways website says that Marple Flight will be closed
5th November to 21st December 2001 and
7th January to 15th March 2002
for "new gates and chamber grouting".

Incidentally, the Huddersfield Broad will be closed for much of that
same period for lock gate replacement, dredging and work on the
mechanism of Locomotive Bridge.

The Ashton Canal will be closed 7th January to 8th February 2002 for
"new gates".

The Huddersfield Narrow will remain open but possible boat movements
will be somewhat limited by the above closures.
--
Martin Clark

Pennine Waterways Website http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk

Molly

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Sep 18, 2001, 5:18:12 PM9/18/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, in article <p8pdqt8u30vvv5v7pebkrsmb4ue5hpc0n1@news

.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
<david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote

>I mean *exactly* that.


>
>He had been sat on the balance beam after raising the gate paddle. As
>the levels equalised, he stood up and took a step towards the end of
>the beam to open the gate, at which point the ground underneath him
>collapsed and he found himself at the bottom of a 4ft deep hole.

Horrible! I do hope he wasn't injured. I really thought that you meant
that the hole itself disappeared underground, as holes do tend to do.

Dave Mayall

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Sep 19, 2001, 2:45:02 AM9/19/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:55:07 +0100, Martin Clark
<mar...@auluk.nospamplease.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>I may be imagining things, but I thought Dave Mayall muttered something
>about...
>>
>>Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
>>apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.
>>
>>This is yet another water scour problem. BW are working on scour in
>>the tail bridge of Lock 7 and Lock 12 was the cause of a stoppage last
>>year. Might one suggest that some pointing is in order.
>>
>British Waterways website says that Marple Flight will be closed
> 5th November to 21st December 2001 and
> 7th January to 15th March 2002
>for "new gates and chamber grouting".

Good thing too :-)

>Incidentally, the Huddersfield Broad will be closed for much of that
>same period for lock gate replacement, dredging and work on the
>mechanism of Locomotive Bridge.

Apparently it is to be automated.

>The Ashton Canal will be closed 7th January to 8th February 2002 for
>"new gates".
>
>The Huddersfield Narrow will remain open but possible boat movements
>will be somewhat limited by the above closures.

Fortunately, we will be able to take advantage as we moor on the Lower
Peak Forest.

--
Dave Mayall

Neil Arlidge

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Sep 19, 2001, 6:00:38 AM9/19/01
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"Dave Mayall" <david....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:55:07 +0100, Martin Clark
> <mar...@auluk.nospamplease.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >Incidentally, the Huddersfield Broad will be closed for much of that
> >same period for lock gate replacement, dredging and work on the
> >mechanism of Locomotive Bridge.
>
> Apparently it is to be automated.

......that'll be fun if the chains get crossed on the winding
drum.................presumably it is listed and this feature will be
retained?
--
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John Duffield

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:55:37 AM9/19/01
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"Dave Mayall" <david....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Just to let those who are likely to be in the area over the next few
> days know.
>
> Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
> apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.

Thanks for the info. Any more news would be appreciated. I have a boat
hired from Anderton next week and was planning to cruise the Cheshire
ring, but may have to rethink.

>
> Apparently, BW are hoping to offer assisted passage through the lock
> whilst assesment and repairs proceed, but check with them.

Contact number for the local BW office? I'm probably being dense but I
can't find _any_ contact information on the BW website.

>
> Our crewman who was stood there when the hole appeared, and vanished
> underground was somewhat shaken :-)

Hope he is ok.

John.


Dave Mayall

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:12:01 PM9/19/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:18:12 +0100, Molly
<mo...@mockfords-nospam.clara.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, in article <p8pdqt8u30vvv5v7pebkrsmb4ue5hpc0n1@news
>.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
><david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote
>
>>I mean *exactly* that.
>>
>>He had been sat on the balance beam after raising the gate paddle. As
>>the levels equalised, he stood up and took a step towards the end of
>>the beam to open the gate, at which point the ground underneath him
>>collapsed and he found himself at the bottom of a 4ft deep hole.
>
>Horrible! I do hope he wasn't injured.

Well, he wasn't injured by the hole opening up. he was already
sporting a cast on his broken leg!

--
Dave Mayall

David Long

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:24:31 PM9/19/01
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In article <51hgqt43pmtqc450i...@news.ukonline.co.uk>,
Dave Mayall <david....@ukonline.co.uk> writes
I hope BW are suing him for overloading the canal bank with that extra
weight and causing wilful damage to the structure.
--
David Long
Sankey Canal Restoration Society
http://www.scars.org.uk/
Updated June 2001 - another issue of our magazine CANAL CUTTINGS - illustrated

Dave Mayall

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Sep 19, 2001, 6:39:40 PM9/19/01
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:55:37 +0100, "John Duffield"
<noone@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>"Dave Mayall" <david....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:7rtcqt8udl66s4vca...@news.ukonline.co.uk...
>>
>> Just to let those who are likely to be in the area over the next few
>> days know.
>>
>> Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
>> apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.
>
>Thanks for the info. Any more news would be appreciated. I have a boat
>hired from Anderton next week and was planning to cruise the Cheshire
>ring, but may have to rethink.

I will check out the current position.

>> Apparently, BW are hoping to offer assisted passage through the lock
>> whilst assesment and repairs proceed, but check with them.
>
>Contact number for the local BW office? I'm probably being dense but I
>can't find _any_ contact information on the BW website.
>
>>
>> Our crewman who was stood there when the hole appeared, and vanished
>> underground was somewhat shaken :-)
>
>Hope he is ok.

He is no worse than he was before falling down the hole.

--
Dave Mayall

Richard Head

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Sep 20, 2001, 4:59:25 AM9/20/01
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"Dave Mayall" <david....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >Horrible! I do hope he wasn't injured.
>
> Well, he wasn't injured by the hole opening up. he was already
> sporting a cast on his broken leg!

a cast of thousands or of plaster?

I hope they all get compensation for the trauma suffered.

John Duffield

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Sep 20, 2001, 11:15:05 AM9/20/01
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"John Duffield" <noone@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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> "Dave Mayall" <david....@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:7rtcqt8udl66s4vca...@news.ukonline.co.uk...
> >
> > Just to let those who are likely to be in the area over the next few
> > days know.
> >
> > Marple Flight is currently closed and locked after a large cavity
> > apeared in the ground underneath the nearside tail gate of lock 3.
>
> Thanks for the info. Any more news would be appreciated. I have a boat
> hired from Anderton next week and was planning to cruise the Cheshire
> ring, but may have to rethink.

I have just spoken to BW Stoke, and the hole has been filled and the
flight is open as normal.

John.

Dave Mayall

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Sep 20, 2001, 6:22:12 PM9/20/01
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Hmmm.

Interesting thought....

He went to hospital today to have his cast changed, so days after
falling down BW's hole he is sporting a nice new plaster cast.

My word, I could scare some BW managers with this one!

--
Dave Mayall

Dave Mayall

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Sep 20, 2001, 6:22:13 PM9/20/01
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:-)

And as Martin noted, they are doing some chamber grouting this winter!

--
Dave Mayall

Molly

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Sep 21, 2001, 5:59:17 PM9/21/01
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, in article <51hgqt43pmtqc450ik94r48jg94g2k4b06@news

.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
<david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote

>Well, he wasn't injured by the hole opening up. he was already


>sporting a cast on his broken leg!

This gets better! Did anybody take a video?

Molly

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Sep 21, 2001, 6:00:06 PM9/21/01
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, in article <9od14l$he5$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
John Duffield (John Duffield <noone@[127.0.0.1]>) wrote

>I have just spoken to BW Stoke, and the hole has been filled and the
>flight is open as normal.

Is it still filled by Dave's friend?

Robin Nicholson

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Sep 22, 2001, 1:36:53 AM9/22/01
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>On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, in article <51hgqt43pmtqc450ik94r48jg94g2k4b06@news
>.ukonline.co.uk>, Dave Mayall (Dave Mayall
><david....@ukonline.co.uk>) wrote
>
>>Well, he wasn't injured by the hole opening up. he was already
>>sporting a cast on his broken leg!
>
In a few weeks time that highly annoying itching will start - another
excellent use of a windlass handle inserted inside the cast and
wiggled around. Mind you a 12 inch ruler is good - a DIY measuring
tape is even better with its small metal flange at the end.
Aaaaaahhhhhh.
---
Robin Nicholson

Andrew J Instone-Cowie

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Sep 23, 2001, 1:48:34 PM9/23/01
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:36:53 GMT,
bran...@pickles25.nojunkmail.freeserve.co.uk (Robin Nicholson) wrote:

>another excellent use of a windlass handle

Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...


========================
andrew(at)datagram.co.uk
------------------------
nb 'Regal Suki'
========================

nbru...@lineone.net

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:34:16 PM9/23/01
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:48:34 GMT, and...@no.junk.please (Andrew J
Instone-Cowie) had a frenetic dose of key-bashing and wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:36:53 GMT,
>bran...@pickles25.nojunkmail.freeserve.co.uk (Robin Nicholson) wrote:
>
>>another excellent use of a windlass handle
>
>Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
>trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...
>

LOL! At least he wasn't trying to screw it in..........


Brian L Dominic
NB Rumpus

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Mike Stevens

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:44:04 PM9/23/01
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Andrew J Instone-Cowie <and...@no.junk.please> wrote in message
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> Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
> trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...

We've had to do that before, while we sent somebody back by train to collect
our mooring pins from the previous mooring!


--
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Old teachers never die, they simply lose their class.

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the month, March 2001)


Phil Rushton

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Sep 23, 2001, 8:04:08 PM9/23/01
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"Mike Stevens" <mike...@which.net> wrote in message
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> Andrew J Instone-Cowie <and...@no.junk.please> wrote in message
> news:3bae2008...@news.freeserve.net...
>
> > Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
> > trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...
>
> We've had to do that before, while we sent somebody back by train to collect
> our mooring pins from the previous mooring!

Didn't the train fare cost more than the mooring pins were worth?

Phil
nb 5 Pins


Mike Stevens

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Sep 24, 2001, 12:33:07 AM9/24/01
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Phil Rushton <Phil-...@macccanal.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Stevens" <mike...@which.net> wrote in message

> > Andrew J Instone-Cowie <and...@no.junk.please> wrote in message


> > > Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
> > > trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...
> >
> > We've had to do that before, while we sent somebody back by train to
collect
> > our mooring pins from the previous mooring!
>
> Didn't the train fare cost more than the mooring pins were worth?

Well, it was only a couple of stops, and Wendy got a lift one way. And
they'd been made for us to my design and were better pins than most
available commercially at the time, nice and long, and with cross-pieces at
the top to hitch the ropes round so that if the pins pulled out they didn't
fall into the cut.. The alternative would have been to buy new pins from
Cowroast Marine's chandlery (before it was taken over by M*dl*nd Sw*ndl*rs)
and they weren't our flavour-of-the-month at that time because we were fed
up with giving their hirers the basic instruction about locks that we
reckoned the yard ought to have given them. And before anyone says we were
lucky to find the pins where we'd left them, the previous mooring had been
to a friend's garden. For the context, go to
<http://www.mike-stevens.co.uk/reports/summer1982/page1.htm> and scroll to
30 July. IIRC we actually moored overnight to one mooring pin and one
broom-handle.


--
Mike Stevens, nb Felis Catus II
No man is an island. So is Man.
Off-list replies, please, to michael...@which.net
Web site http://www.mike-stevens.co.uk
(Waterways World's Site of the Month, March 2001)

Roger Davies

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Sep 27, 2001, 2:16:31 PM9/27/01
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In article <3bae2008...@news.freeserve.net>, Andrew J Instone-Cowie
<and...@no.junk.please> writes

>On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:36:53 GMT,
>bran...@pickles25.nojunkmail.freeserve.co.uk (Robin Nicholson) wrote:
>
>>another excellent use of a windlass handle
>
>Saw a rather confused hire boater mooring up this afternoon who was
>trying to hammer a windlass into the towpath...
Ah, a rond anchor! Used some of those on the Broads.
- -
Roger Davies
To reply directly, replace nospam with rogdavies

Paul Jerome

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Sep 30, 2001, 5:13:18 PM9/30/01
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"Roger Davies" <ro...@nospam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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My father did not realise rond anchors were only for use on the bank, and
tried throwing one over the side of our Mirror dinghy. Their not very
efficient!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul Jerome

Phil Rushton

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"Paul Jerome" <paul....@nospam.cwcom.net> wrote in message
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They are not very efficient on the bank either :-((


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