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Tim Lewis

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Jul 28, 2005, 8:13:48 PM7/28/05
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I have uploaded some photographs from last weekends 'Destination
Froghall' event which celebrated the restoration of lock one of the
Uttoxeter canal basin

They can be seen at:


http://www.pbase.com/timlewis/destination_froghall

Tim Lewis

Tony Clayton

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Jul 29, 2005, 9:32:40 AM7/29/05
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Excellent. I was last there a year ago as work was about to start.
What a transformation.

Next stop Utoxeter

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Brian Dominic

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Jul 30, 2005, 4:21:45 AM7/30/05
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On 28 Jul 2005 17:13:48 -0700, "Tim Lewis" <nbful...@gmail.com>

A very nice set of pictures, Tim!


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Ian Calderwood

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Jul 30, 2005, 3:38:40 PM7/30/05
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Nice pictures. I was there, too. Evidence at:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/churnet/


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Chris

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Jul 31, 2005, 12:08:45 PM7/31/05
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Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more boats to
get through since last year when we tried and inflicted damage on the
handrails?

I've spoken to several people who've been unable to fit through the tunnel
but these pictures would suggest it's not so difficult now?


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Tony Clayton

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Jul 31, 2005, 4:38:02 PM7/31/05
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In a recent message "Chris" <christine...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more boats to
> get through since last year when we tried and inflicted damage on the
> handrails?

Last year they had already dropped the water level in the tunnel pound.


>
> I've spoken to several people who've been unable to fit through the tunnel
> but these pictures would suggest it's not so difficult now?
>

I gather it is slightly less impossible than it used to be.
We saw a boat get stuck last year.

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Greg Chapman

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Aug 1, 2005, 5:34:04 AM8/1/05
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"Tony Clayton" <to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b6c442934d%to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk...

> In a recent message "Chris" <christine...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more boats
>> to
>> get through since last year when we tried and inflicted damage on the
>> handrails?
>
> I gather it is slightly less impossible than it used to be.
> We saw a boat get stuck last year.

I really do need a definitive update for the Waterways Guide site.

I'm currently working on major overhaul that should be ready soon!
--
Greg Chapman
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for updates to Nicholson, Imray and Pearsons Guides - and lots more!


Neil Arlidge

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Aug 3, 2005, 6:08:41 AM8/3/05
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Chris wrote:
> Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more
> boats to get through since last year when we tried and inflicted
> damage on the handrails?
>
> I've spoken to several people who've been unable to fit through the
> tunnel but these pictures would suggest it's not so difficult now?

Since BW lowered the water level a couple of years ago, we can get through
under power, without touching handrail covers.
The new flappy plastic guage has changed all that, you can't see what you
are doing!

--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest - Froghalled - currently about to do a surprise
visit to the River Weaver...
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Martin Ludgate

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Aug 5, 2005, 6:07:06 AM8/5/05
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In article <b6c442934d%to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk>, Tony
Clayton <to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk> writes

>In a recent message "Chris" <christine...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more
>boats to
>> get through since last year when we tried and inflicted damage on the
>> handrails?
>
>Last year they had already dropped the water level in the tunnel pound.
>>
>> I've spoken to several people who've been unable to fit through the
>tunnel
>> but these pictures would suggest it's not so difficult now?
>>
>
>I gather it is slightly less impossible than it used to be.
>We saw a boat get stuck last year.
>
They level has been dropped by approximately 4in. I gather that
this was achieved by removing the weir boards from the top of a
concrete overflow weir, plus some dredging to make up for the
reduced depth.

Any more would require the weir itself to be broken out and rebuilt
at a lower level, plus some more serious engineering work to
lower the bed of the canal in places. (there are concrete lined
sections, and I think a culvert under the canal that limit the depth
and would have to be rebuilt).

Perhaps if (sorry, 'when') we get some more of the canal open
towards Uttoxeter, this will be seen as more worth doing.
--
Martin Ludgate

Neil Arlidge

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Aug 6, 2005, 9:57:17 AM8/6/05
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Martin Ludgate wrote:
> In article <b6c442934d%to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk>, Tony
> Clayton <to...@tclayton.demon.co.uk> writes
>> In a recent message "Chris" <christine...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks great. Have they done something to the tunnel to enable more
>>> boats to get through since last year when we tried and inflicted
>>> damage on the handrails?
>>
>> Last year they had already dropped the water level in the tunnel
>> pound.
>>>
>>> I've spoken to several people who've been unable to fit through the
>>> tunnel but these pictures would suggest it's not so difficult now?
>>>
>>
>> I gather it is slightly less impossible than it used to be.
>> We saw a boat get stuck last year.
>>
> They level has been dropped by approximately 4in. I gather that
> this was achieved by removing the weir boards from the top of a
> concrete overflow weir, plus some dredging to make up for the
> reduced depth.
>
> Any more would require the weir itself to be broken out and rebuilt
> at a lower level, plus some more serious engineering work to
> lower the bed of the canal in places. (there are concrete lined
> sections, and I think a culvert under the canal that limit the depth
> and would have to be rebuilt).

With our increased draught (being pumped out at the time) we found this
during our "spirited" early morning departure.


>
> Perhaps if (sorry, 'when') we get some more of the canal open
> towards Uttoxeter,

YUM!

--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest

Martin Clark

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Aug 9, 2005, 6:52:05 PM8/9/05
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Greg Chapman wrote...

>I really do need a definitive update for the Waterways Guide site.
>
>I'm currently working on major overhaul that should be ready soon!

Did you get my recent email, Greg? I have had no reply so don't know
whether it went to the right address.
--
Martin Clark

Internet Boaters' Database http://www.auluk.freeserve.co.uk/boats
Pennine Waterways Website http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk

speedy

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Aug 9, 2005, 7:50:02 PM8/9/05
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"Neil Arlidge" <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c7adnRpzx4E...@giganews.com...
We went through a few times, in a Swan (hire) boat not long after the Caldon
was first opened, and at that time BW recommended that mushroom vents were
to be screwed tight down, or the tunnel walls would take them clean off for
you! We got through without any proble - the boat was about 50 feet, I
think.

It was very beautiful and very peaceful, tied up at the end of the cut
there, till one time the Staffs Fire Brigade came on a Sunday, and did a
fire practice, running out hoses, getting pumps going, and scaling the
vertical face of the kilns with their ladders, all under the eyes of
observers with stop-watches and clip-boards! That certainly woke us from our
late morning slumbers!

That was long before the old warehouse was turned into a restaurant, or
whatever.......

We also went through the Leek tunnel, only to have to return back through it
in reverse, as there was no winding point for the length of our boat at the
end of the cut. This was fine till we tried to get out onto the pool at the
"Stoke" end of the tunnel, as the water level was a bit low, and there was a
cill in the entrance! We had to go back some way into the tunnel, and then
accelerate hard in reverse, driving into our exhaust smoke as the engine
laboured to force the water past us in the narrow bore to get enough speed
to climb over the cill. The look of horror and amazement on the face of a
guy fishing in the pool, as we burst backwards at speed out into the
sunlight, in a blueblack cloud, was a real picture! Then, having winded the
boat, the water was so churned up that he gave up fishing as a bad job!

Fond memories of Alice's, (the Black Lion) with the beer supplies being
offloaded from the guards van of a goods train, down ramps onto her front
path at a board crossing, and closing times was when she decided to go to
bed!!

Happy days!

Dave, n.b.Hailey Wood.


Peter Headland

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Aug 9, 2005, 8:31:40 PM8/9/05
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> We also went through the Leek tunnel, only to have to return back
> through it in reverse, as there was no winding point for the length
> of our boat at the end of the cut.

You can turn a 55' NB where the feeder enters at the turn onto the
bridge.

--
Peter Headland

Martin Clark

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Aug 10, 2005, 5:14:44 AM8/10/05
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Peter Headland wrote...
You can turn a 60' narrowboat there if you get the stern in at the
towpath side and pole the bow round. Very tight, though.

Greg Chapman

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Aug 10, 2005, 6:33:11 AM8/10/05
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Hi Martin,

>>I'm currently working on major overhaul that should be ready soon!
>
> Did you get my recent email, Greg? I have had no reply so don't know
> whether it went to the right address.

Yes I did get it.

In fact I must send apologies to everyone who's written with updates over
the last few months. I don't think anyone has received an acknowledgement
since around February. (So it was nothing personal, Martin!)

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