The-Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green
Roy Bailey
I wonder if anyone can satisfy my curiosity. I have just been reading a
book entitled, 'Back Door Britain' by Anthony Burton. It is about a
journey around the canals of England by narrow boat in 1975.
This was around the time when the Campaign for Real Ale was just making
its presence felt, and the author has a bit of a pop at the Campaign.
Despite that he likes his ale, and appreciates unspoiled pubs. At one
point he enthuses about a pub called The-Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green, on
the Macclesfield Canal. The trouble is, I can't find any place called
Kent Green, although there is a Key Green just off the canal east of
Congleton.
The Bird-in-Hand which he describes would be a shoo-in for CAMRA's
National Inventory. It gives the impression that you are in someone's
living room as there is no bar, and with an ancient landlady who takes
the glasses down to the cellar to fill them with ale from wooden
barrels.
It sounds a wonderful place, but I bet it doesn't exist any more, does
it?
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.
Pete Stockdale
"Tim Leech" <dutto...@onetel.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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> It was indeed a wonderful place, though it certainly wouldn't have
> been to everyone's liking.
>
> Scholar Green is the nearest place of any consequence on the map.
> Try 53 deg 6'49"N, 2 deg 14'34"W in Google Earth, I think that's it
> (many years since I was there, could be a bit out). It certainly
> closed in it's original form, can't remember whether it actually
> closed permanently.
>
> HTH
>
> Tim
Far be it for me to speak contrarily to Mr Burton, but I always understood
that was the Miners Arms on the Macc the was the infamous " beer carried
up in a jug by old lady from cellar" pub.
http://www.pub-explorer.com/cheshire/pub/minersarmsadlington.htm
Bit different now regretfully !
Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
Phil
>
> The Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green was definitely as described.
There used to be 3 pubs in Kent Green but only the Rising Sun
remains as a pub.
The Bird in Hand was alongside swing bridge No. 88. It was a
beerhouse rather than a fully licensed PH. After its closure it was
converted to two houses.
The Miners Arms is at Adlington, a short walk from bridge 18?
(not got the guide in front of me). That was done up and extended
many years ago.
Phil
Bill Ridgeway
book "Backdoor Britain". (The year was 1976 NOT 1975.) I revisited the
Bird In Hand last year to find that, sadly, it is not now a pub.
Regards.
Bill Ridgeway
"Tim Leech" <dutto...@onetel.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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Tiny
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:12:45 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> >On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:31:00 +0100, Tim Leech <duttond...@onetel.no.spam.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:01:11 +0100, Roy Bailey <n...@waitrose.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>been to everyone's liking.
>
> >>Scholar Green is the nearest place of any consequence on the map.
> >>Try 53 deg 6'49"N, 2 deg 14'34"W in Google Earth, I think that's it
> >>(many years since I was there, could be a bit out). It certainly
> >>closed in it's original form, can't remember whether it actually
> >>closed permanently.
>
> >to Alderley road B5085. this Sam Smith pub is very popular in summer and at
> >weekends.http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=380200&Y=379500&A=Y&Z=3
>
> Different place, judging by the position on the map.
>
> Tim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I believe the old building (or bits of it) are now the house by the
swing bridge. Originally this fronted sheds and other older buildings
which seemed to survive when new houses were being built rather
nearby. The pub - with its sign on the house at the front, was
definately open when we passed in the 1970s, then, as nearby land was
sold for housing it seemed to be shut - but later I heard it was now
run from the agri-buildings behind. Still of this we saw no sign when
we passed a few times towards the end of the last century (80s or 90s)
and the house looked very much the worse for wear. At some point the
pub sign gave up the ghost and after that the house began to look more
lived in and improved - which brings us up to date.
David
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:12:45 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:31:00 +0100, Tim Leech
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:01:11 +0100, Roy Bailey <ne...@waitrose.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>been to everyone's liking.
>>>
>>>Scholar Green is the nearest place of any consequence on the map.
>>>Try 53 deg 6'49"N, 2 deg 14'34"W in Google Earth, I think that's it
>>>(many years since I was there, could be a bit out). It certainly
>>>closed in it's original form, can't remember whether it actually
>>>closed permanently.
>>
>>The Bird in Hand, Knolls Green SJ802795 Just on the North side of the
>>Knutsford
>>to Alderley road B5085. this Sam Smith pub is very popular in summer and
>>at
>>weekends.
>>http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=380200&Y=379500&A=Y&Z=3
>
>
> Different place, judging by the position on the map.
>
> Tim
>
Many was the time I had a rather flat pint there. The beer used to be
brought up from the cellar in a white enamel jug and poured out into glasses
at the top of the cellar steps. It was right by a swing bridge at the top of
Foundry Lane which was the little lane by the Rising Sun. Depending on how
busy it was affected the freshness of the beer. On balmy summer evenings we
used to sit o the swing bridge and dangle our legs over the side. Happy days
from about 30 years ago.
David
Nicholas D. Richards
<in...@1001solutions.co.uk> writes
>I AM "Bill, short, dark and, well, stout" referred to in Anthony Burton's
>book "Backdoor Britain". (The year was 1976 NOT 1975.) I revisited the
>Bird In Hand last year to find that, sadly, it is not now a pub.
>
>Regards.
>
>Bill Ridgeway
>
I paid a number of visits there, between 1969 and 1980/81 (not sure
whether it was 80 or 81) both on canal trips and while travelling 'oop'
North by bicycle and motorcycle. It was on the edge of the canal at
Kent Green at the end of a lane, which had not been macadamised. Someone
else in this thread has reminded me that it was called Foundry Lane.
There was a faded sign on the Gable end for Double Diamond, which up
until then I had not realised was available as a draught bear.
It sold Double Diamond (only Double Diamond, no bottled bears, no wines
or spirits etc) which the landlady (I never saw a landlord and
understood that he had been long dead) did bring up from the cellar, in
a white enamelled jug. Someone else has said that the beer was flat,
not at all, it was well kept traditional bitter, ie not fizzy, just a
bite of dissolved CO2.
The landlady wore carpet slippers and a floral wrap around that you
might have seen a housewife wearing in the 1940's. Her face was heavily
made up (bright red lips, white foundation) and she must have been in
her 80's.
There was no bar, only benches round the wall. No music! Only
conversation. One balmy summer evening I turned up with my girl friend
and we were shown through into the Lounge. This was furnished just like
a 1920/30's front room. I suspect that the landlady thought I was with
my mother (the lady concerned was a little older than me) and should be
treated with that sort of respect.
There were quite a number of outhouses, which I was told had been used
for brewing beer until the landlord died, sometime after WW2.
That sort of place does not exist any more <sigh>.
--
Nicholas David Richards -
"Oů sont les neiges d'antan?"
Will Chapman
>>
>> The Bird-in-Hand which he describes would be a shoo-in for CAMRA's
>> National Inventory. It gives the impression that you are in someone's
>> living room as there is no bar, and with an ancient landlady who takes
>> the glasses down to the cellar to fill them with ale from wooden
>> barrels.
>>
>> It sounds a wonderful place, but I bet it doesn't exist any more, does
>> it?
>
I don't know this pub but it does remind me of one we used to
visit in the heart of the New Forest, the Royal Oak. It was the
last pub in the forest where the farmer also ran the pub. The
family lived there the 'bar' was their living room, the family
staying in the kitchen when the pub was open.
On summer days the beer was served through a hatch opening onto
the garden which was usually filled with walkers & cyclists.
There are many stories about the pub but my favourite is the one
about the visiting American who asked at the hatch whether there
was any food. The farmer/publican said let me check withe the
wife and vanished into the kitchen. 'Sandwiches', he said on his
return. "What kind?" said the American....back to the kitchen to
find out went the farmer and returned with the answer: "Marmalade".
Cheers
Will
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Phil
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:CN0LpIAZ...@salmiron.co.uk...
> In article <evg8vn$omd$1...@aioe.org>, Bill Ridgeway
> <in...@1001solutions.co.uk> writes
> >I AM "Bill, short, dark and, well, stout" referred to in Anthony Burton's
> >book "Backdoor Britain". (The year was 1976 NOT 1975.) I revisited the
> >Bird In Hand last year to find that, sadly, it is not now a pub.
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >Bill Ridgeway
> >
>
> I paid a number of visits there, between 1969 and 1980/81 (not sure
> whether it was 80 or 81) both on canal trips and while travelling 'oop'
> North by bicycle and motorcycle. It was on the edge of the canal at
> Kent Green at the end of a lane, which had not been macadamised. Someone
> else in this thread has reminded me that it was called Foundry Lane.
>
> There was a faded sign on the Gable end for Double Diamond, which up
> until then I had not realised was available as a draught bear.
>
> It sold Double Diamond (only Double Diamond, no bottled bears, no wines
> or spirits etc) which the landlady (I never saw a landlord and
> understood that he had been long dead) did bring up from the cellar, in
> a white enamelled jug. Someone else has said that the beer was flat,
> not at all, it was well kept traditional bitter, ie not fizzy, just a
> bite of dissolved CO2.
At the times you called at the Bird the beer would have been either Ansells
or Whitbread.
Jack, the landlord died in the 1970's and his wife Emmy kept the pub
for a few years after. I can't remember when it closed - must have been
mid 1980's.
Phil
Will Wilkinson
<dutto...@onetel.no.spam.com> writes
>
>The Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green was definitely as described.
>
>
As was the Harrington arms at Gawsworth - a bit of a hike from the cut
but well worth it (although I've not been in for a few years and it
might have changed).
Will
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David Kitching
wrote:
>In message <tj7n13t6q6iu6dfgc...@4ax.com>, Tim Leech
><dutto...@onetel.no.spam.com> writes
>>Nah, another place altogether.
>>
>>The Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green was definitely as described.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>As was the Harrington arms at Gawsworth - a bit of a hike from the cut
>but well worth it (although I've not been in for a few years and it
>might have changed).
No it hasn't! :-))
Cheers,
--
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Will Wilkinson
<broc...@btinternet.com> writes
still living with my parents in Prestbury 20 years ago. I've been back a
few times when Sometimes was based on the Macc 3 years ago and it was as
good as I remembered then. Must make a point of calling in next time I'm
back up north.
yeos...@telus.net
still has cask beer at room temperature. Olive pours the glasses from
a plastic jug that she fills in the cellar. She does sandwiches as
well, and she'll tell you what kind you want. The outdoor loo still
functions and not a fruity in sight. One has to visit to experience
it.
Steve
Roy Bailey
>book "Backdoor Britain". (The year was 1976 NOT 1975.)
The book was written is 1976 and published in 1977. The journey started
on 13 March 1975.
Adrian Stott
<nich...@salmiron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>That sort of place does not exist any more <sigh>.
Well, perhaps not exactly like, but not far from me at Hertford is a
small pub (The Woodman, at Chapmore End) where the (real) beer is
gravity-fed from barrels in a sort-of cellar. Well, down some steps
from the bar, anyway. A bit of a stroll from the river, though!
And I know of one called "The Jack Russell" in Hampshire (also not
near a navigation I'm afraid) where the beer is gravity-fed from
barrels *above* the bar (owing to the slope of the site).
Adrian
Adrian Stott
07956-299966
Nicholas D. Richards
<m...@address.invalid> writes
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:51:52 +0100, David Kitching <broc...@btinternet.com>
>wrote:
That was expensive, I can remember buying bitter, in Cornwall, for 1/10,
and very nice it was too.
Roy Bailey
In article <583moaF...@mid.individual.net>, Dave Mayall
<da...@research-group.co.uk> writes
>
>Closed as a pub many years ago, and had been derelict for some years. There
>have been a number of apparently abortive attempts at conversion into a pair
>of houses over the years, which seem finally to have come to fruition.
>
>When we went past on Sunday, the houses appeared finished but unoccupied.
>
>Location - Immediately adjacent to the site of the former Swing Bridge
>number 88. The derelict remains of the bridge were removed within the last 5
>years, but the stonework remains. There is a traditional Gypsy-style caravan
>on the opposite bank.
>
Thanks for this and all the other responses. There are several different
ones on uk.rec.waterways, who maintained a separate thread.
Mention of the 1973 'Nicholson's Real Ale Guide to the Waterways'
reminded me that I had a copy somewhere, and when I found it I also
discovered a copy of 'Waterside Pubs' by Ronald Russell (David and
Charles - 1974).
Not only does this contain a description of The Bird in Hand, but there
is also a good black-and-white photo. The licensee then was described
as, '... a man of decided views but always ready to listen to yours.'
MikeMcG also mentioned The Anchor, High Offley, Staffs, on the
Shropshire Union Canal. I visited that about 3 years ago, and thought it
was marvellous. I imagine the Bird in Hand must have been similar.
Roy.
Adrian Stott
>A pint of mild is still 2/6?
Sure. 2 halves at 3*50p each.
Adrian
Adrian Stott
07956-299966
Bill Ridgeway
pregnant at the time. Indeed she was with us between London and Rugby. Our
eldest was born in July 1976. I don't know where the date is in 1975 has
come from but it quite wrong.
Bill Ridgeway
"Roy Bailey" <ne...@waitrose.com> wrote in message
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Nick Atty
wrote:
The real beer at the second-nearest pub to me is served from barrels
behind the bar. Obviously enough people drink it for them to keep it
on, although almost all the locals drink the real cider instead (for
which purpose they all have their own china mugs behind the bar).
And that's not the best pub in the village! It's about 10 miles from
the nearest navigable waterway.
If I told you which village, anyone who has read this thread from the
beginning would be very confused!
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(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)
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Pete Stockdale
"Nick Atty" <1-no...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote in message >
>
> If I told you which village, anyone who has read this thread from the
> beginning would be very confused!
> --
I remember the Hamstall Cider House on the Severn.
Only entering it more than once, you understand - never leaving it !!
Brian Dominic
<nich...@salmiron.demon.co.uk> finished tucking into their plate of
fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>>A pint of mild is still 2/6?
>
>That was expensive, I can remember buying bitter, in Cornwall, for 1/10,
>and very nice it was too.
My first "drinking pub" (the Griffin Inn at Plumtree, if anybody's
REALLY interested) charged 2/- a pint, 1/1 a half!
Brian L Dominic
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Roy Bailey
<in...@1001solutions.co.uk> writes
>The journey started on Saturday 13 March 1976. I was there! My wife was
>pregnant at the time. Indeed she was with us between London and Rugby. Our
>eldest was born in July 1976. I don't know where the date is in 1975 has
>come from but it quite wrong.
>
>Bill Ridgeway
>
Bill Ridgeway
Roy,
Where did you get the year 1975 from? As far as I can see the date isn't
mentioned in the book.
Bill Ridgeway
Roy Bailey
<in...@1001solutions.co.uk> writes
>
>
>Roy,
>
>Where did you get the year 1975 from? As far as I can see the date isn't
>mentioned in the book.
>
>Bill Ridgeway
>
>
Brian J Goggin
wrote:
>This thread is now closed and I am unsubscribing from uk.rec.waterways.
Oh no it isn't.
bjg
Pete Stockdale
"Brian J Goggin" <myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote in message
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>
If you are so presumptuous that you believe that you can close a thread -
your unsubscribing is overdue.
Kindly report back when you have unsubscribed.
Thanks
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
Phil
This is a typical example of what happens on Newsgroups.
Somebody asks a question, then the thread deviates about a date in a book
and people who were never there at the time start arguing the toss. Even the
author (Anthony Burton) probably only called in at the pub once in his lifetime
and if he had a good night there I can understand why HE might have got his
dates confused!
There are people on this newsgroup who were regulars at the B-I-H for
over 20 years, but people ask questions and then cannot sit back and assimilate
the answers from *real history*. No wonder most people want to put there own
interpretation on history and ignore REAL historical accounts.
I think it is a shame really, but I am just a boring old fart. At least I, and
many
others, were able to enjoy a bit of pub history. I suspect many people on here
would not have enjoyed places like the B-I-H, but you might put it down as a bit
of tradition (which it certainly wasn't).
Phil
Brian J Goggin
>Panto time is over.
Not while you're around, sweetie.
bjg
Bob Adams
<Hornb...@muddywaters.com> writes
>> This thread is now closed and I am unsubscribing from uk.rec.waterways.
:-)
>
>This is a typical example of what happens on Newsgroups. Somebody
>asks a question, then the thread deviates about a date in a book and
>people who were never there at the time start arguing the toss. Even the
>author (Anthony Burton) probably only called in at the pub once in his
>lifetime and if he had a good night there I can understand why HE might
>have got his dates confused!
Yes, he might have but having now walked across the room to the other
bookshelf and grasped the so very old paperback of "Back Door Britain"
and thumbed to the start of some very brown pages (why do old book pages
go brown?) and started to read again what has always been one of my
favourite canal books, I have to agree that the starting date of the
cruise is not mentioned, not even a clue such as "we arrived at the boat
as the first frost of 1975 arrived"... nope nuffink. Just that the book
was first published in 1977.
No doubt if I was to re-read the whole book yet again some subject
mentioned may pin-point a time more accurately but that is for another
day.
Bob
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Brian J Goggin
>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:09:04 +0100, Brian J Goggin
><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:33:54 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:30:41 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>>><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:38:06 +0100, Roy Bailey <ne...@waitrose.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This thread is now closed and I am unsubscribing from uk.rec.waterways.
>>>>
>>>>Oh no it isn't.
>>>
>>>Panto time is over.
>>
>>Not while you're around, sweetie.
>
>Take the back end of the horse off and let's hear the fat lady sing.
You won't be able to hear her with your head up there.
bjg
Bill Ridgeway
You made the presumption <Even the author (Anthony Burton) probably only
called in at the pub once in his lifetime and if he had a good night there I
can understand why HE might have got his dates confused!>>.
I can't comment as to how many times Tony called in at the pub. However, as
a matter of fact we visited the pub in daytime. At that time pubs closed at
2 o'clock.
As I have said I was with Anthony on this trip (all 6 weeks) so I am really
in a good position to know details of the trip. I cannot see any reference
in the book to the date of the start of the trip - although the preface is
dated 1976 - so I am very sure you are quite incorrect.
Regards.
Bill Ridgeway
"Phil" <Hornb...@muddywaters.com> wrote in message
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Tiny
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:21:46 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>
>
>
>
>
> <myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
> >On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:32:03 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:09:04 +0100, Brian J Goggin
> >><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>
> >>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:33:54 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:30:41 +0100, Brian J Goggin
> >>>><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>This thread is now closed and I am unsubscribing from uk.rec.waterways.
>
> >>>>>Oh no it isn't.
>
> >>>>Panto time is over.
>
> >>>Not while you're around, sweetie.
>
> >>Take the back end of the horse off and let's hear the fat lady sing.
>
> >You won't be able to hear her with your head up there.
>
> --
>
> Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wot about the bearded lady - oh no, she was on another thread!
Brian J Goggin
>On 14 Apr 2007 01:26:52 -0700, "Tiny" <dhsr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 14, 9:08 am, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:21:46 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>>> >On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:32:03 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:09:04 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>>> >><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:33:54 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:30:41 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>>> >>>><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:38:06 +0100, Roy Bailey <n...@waitrose.com>
>>> >>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>This thread is now closed and I am unsubscribing from uk.rec.waterways.
>>>
>>> >>>>>Oh no it isn't.
>>>
>>> >>>>Panto time is over.
>>>
>>> >>>Not while you're around, sweetie.
>>>
>>> >>Take the back end of the horse off and let's hear the fat lady sing.
>>>
>>> >You won't be able to hear her with your head up there.
>>>
>>> write that down on the plus side
>
>> Wot about the bearded lady - oh no, she was on another thread!
>
>That's no way to refer to Brian.
There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
bjg
Brian Dominic
<myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>>That's no way to refer to Brian.
>
>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>
You can say THAT again!
Brian J Goggin
<nbru...@lineone.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:35:58 +0100, Brian J Goggin
><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
>fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
>last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>
>
>>>That's no way to refer to Brian.
>>
>>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>>
>You can say THAT again!
There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
bjg
Brian Dominic
<myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:11:07 +0100, Brian Dominic
><nbru...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:35:58 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
>>fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
>>last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>>
>>
>>>>That's no way to refer to Brian.
>>>
>>>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>>>
>>You can say THAT again!
>
>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>
Thank you, Brian - a man after me own heart!
Bill Ridgeway
To: "Bill Ridgeway" <in...@1001solutions.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: The-Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green
>I resent your implication on the newsgroup that I don't know what I am
> talking about. Attached is a scan of the first page of my paperback copy
> of 'Back Door Britain'. Perhaps it is missing from your copy.
>
> Don't waste time replying to the newsgroup; I have unsubscribed. Your
> apology should be sent here.
>
> Roy Bailey
> West Berkshire.
Roy,
I did not imply you don't know what you're talking about and, therefore,
have nothing for which to apologise. As I have said I was on that trip. My
wife was pregnant at the time. My son was born in 1976. I can, therefore,
be 100% certain that the year was 1976 not 1975. Based on that fact my
statement "I don't know where the date ... 1975 has come from but it (is)
quite wrong" was quite reasonable. On the other hand you made the comment
"Then the author got it wrong." It would have been useful if you also
stated your source. The page you scanned from the paperback edition of
'Backdoor Britain' doesn't appear in the hardback edition. I can only
assume that the text was penned later for the paperback edition. Perhaps
the incorrect year is just a slip of the pen.
Regards.
Bill Ridgeway
Mike Stevens
It's behind us.
--
Mike Stevens
narrowboat Felis Catus III
web-site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
Defend the waterways.
Visit the web site www.saveourwaterways.org.uk
Brian J Goggin
<nbru...@lineone.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:19:40 +0100, Brian J Goggin
><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
>fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
>last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>
>>On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:11:07 +0100, Brian Dominic
>><nbru...@lineone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:35:58 +0100, Brian J Goggin
>>><myinitialsATmyorganization.ie> finished tucking into their plate of
>>>fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
>>>last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::
>>>
>>>
>>>>>That's no way to refer to Brian.
>>>>
>>>>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>>>>
>>>You can say THAT again!
>>
>>There is no resemblance between me and a thread.
>>
>Thank you, Brian - a man after me own heart!
The old ones are still the best, I always say.
bjg
robertp...@gmail.com
> Followup to: uk.food+drink.real-ale
>
> I wonder if anyone can satisfy my curiosity. I have just been reading a
> book entitled, 'Back Door Britain' by Anthony Burton. It is about a
> journey around the canals of England by narrow boat in 1975.
>
> This was around the time when the Campaign for Real Ale was just making
> its presence felt, and the author has a bit of a pop at the Campaign.
> Despite that he likes his ale, and appreciates unspoiled pubs. At one
> point he enthuses about a pub called The-Bird-in-Hand at Kent Green, on
> the Macclesfield Canal. The trouble is, I can't find any place called
> Kent Green, although there is a Key Green just off the canal east of
> Congleton.
>
> The Bird-in-Hand which he describes would be a shoo-in for CAMRA's
> National Inventory. It gives the impression that you are in someone's
> living room as there is no bar, and with an ancient landlady who takes
> the glasses down to the cellar to fill them with ale from wooden
> barrels.
>
> It sounds a wonderful place, but I bet it doesn't exist any more, does
> it?
> --
> Roy Bailey
> West Berkshi
Sadly it does not still exist as a pub but it was just as described above and I well remember it as such.