TNC On Tour 2003 website - some exciting bits now up.
Neil Arlidge
Ferry, in at Fiddler's Ferry Lock onto section of the Sankey Canal (the
first narrow boat to do this since this lock was re-opened) Fiddler's Ferry
to Widnes / Spike Island Lock at West Bank (bottom of the Sankey Canal) Then
Widnes to Langton Lock, Liverpool Docks, through docks to overnight berth at
Collingwood Dock. A few waves...........but nothing like last year!
Also some pictures of Old Runcorn Locks and evening views of Stanley Dock
Branch locks.
Tons of not very compressed images behind the thumbnails.
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
--
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Follow the travels of the TNC at http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk
Dave Croft
> The MSC from Ellesmere port to Eastham. UP the Tidal Mersey to Fiddler's
> Ferry, in at Fiddler's Ferry Lock onto section of the Sankey Canal (the
> first narrow boat to do this since this lock was re-opened) Fiddler's Ferry
> to Widnes / Spike Island Lock at West Bank (bottom of the Sankey Canal) Then
> Widnes to Langton Lock, Liverpool Docks, through docks to overnight berth at
> Collingwood Dock. A few waves...........but nothing like last year!
> Also some pictures of Old Runcorn Locks and evening views of Stanley Dock
> Branch locks.
> Tons of not very compressed images behind the thumbnails.
> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
Thanks for posting Neil, I always look forward to the next episode.
PS I hadn't noticed the smears on the pictures I took at Widnes.
It was rain on the lens so it proves how bad the conditions were for you.
--
Dave Croft
Warrington
England
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
Neil Arlidge
>
> Thanks for posting Neil, I always look forward to the next episode.
> PS I hadn't noticed the smears on the pictures I took at Widnes.
> It was rain on the lens so it proves how bad the conditions were for
> you.
Yes............and if you look at your originals you will see I have removed
some of them in Photoshop!
A big thank you for recording us doing something from the bank in rather
foul weather...........Shirley this must have been the worst day of the
Tour, apart from that teeny weeny bit of rain we had at the top of the
L&L......................now, how are you fixed for April 5th ish? ;-)
The next episode will be a lot of bridges as we exit
Liverpool............YAWN!
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
Dave Croft
>now, how are you fixed for April 5th ish? ;-)
>
Does this mean you are thinking of joining the Cheshire set on that date?
If so, remember that doesn't mean set on a weir. 8^)
Molly
Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Neil Arlidge <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>Shirley this must have been the worst day of the
>Tour, apart from that teeny weeny bit of rain we had at the top of the
>L&L......................
Teeny weeny bit of rain? Multiple thunderstorms! Greg and I were
soaked to the skin while the rest of you lurked below, cosy and warm and
dry:-(
And there was no need for Greg to get soaked - it was just his kindness
to keep me company on the counter and tell me what beautiful scenery we
would have been able to see had we been able to see it...
--
Molly
Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person
who doesn't get it.
My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.
Andrew Denny
excellent. And Neil and the others gain entry through doors I'd never
dare knock on.
However, (at the risk of starting to sound like a parrot) I wish they
(and other regular trip and progress reports) would convert to blog
format. It would make it much easier to track them, and I'm sure they
would enjoy the ease of updating.
Martin Clark
about...
>A big thank you for recording us doing something from the bank in rather
>foul weather...........Shirley this must have been the worst day of the
>Tour, apart from that teeny weeny bit of rain we had at the top of the
>L&L....
You haven't forgotten Tardebigge so quickly?
--
Martin
Martin Clark
about...
>"Neil Arlidge" <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:bmh1r2$mmtnn$1...@ID-27576.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>now, how are you fixed for April 5th ish? ;-)
>>
>> > Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
>
>Does this mean you are thinking of joining the Cheshire set on that date?
>If so, remember that doesn't mean set on a weir. 8^)
Neil intends to use the expertise at the greatest expert on getting
boats set on Chester Weir.
--
Martin
Neil Arlidge
Yes.......from great cock-ups great expertise arises.
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
Neil Arlidge
Ah............but that was down south and warm!
(maybee Neil was trying to wind up Molly)
Molly
on Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Andrew Denny <ne...@grannybuttons.com> wrote:
>However, (at the risk of starting to sound like a parrot) I wish they
>(and other regular trip and progress reports) would convert to blog
>format. It would make it much easier to track them, and I'm sure they
>would enjoy the ease of updating.
Putting such reports on the web (which is what a blog requires) would
make it much harder for those without broadband (whether on a normal
dial-up, or liveaboards connecting via mobiles) to read the reports at
their leisure - such that many people probably wouldn't bother.
If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared to
volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have advantages
in that those who never want to read long postings wouldn't even have to
download the headers; however, the discussion which results from some
such postings could be a great loss to urw. A possible solution is
that the charter for urwr could require that follow-ups be set to urw,
so that discussion took place here.
But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic group,
would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting off the
trip and progress reports?
Mike Stevens
> If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
> progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared
> to volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have
> advantages in that those who never want to read long postings
> wouldn't even have to download the headers; however, the discussion
> which results from some such postings could be a great loss to urw.
> A possible solution is that the charter for urwr could require that
> follow-ups be set to urw, so that discussion took place here.
>
> But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic group,
> would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting off the
> trip and progress reports?
I say keep 'em here.
--
Mike Stevens, narrowboat Felis Catus II
Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.
Martin Clark
about...
>If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
>progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared to
>volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have advantages
>in that those who never want to read long postings wouldn't even have to
>download the headers; however, the discussion which results from some
>such postings could be a great loss to urw. A possible solution is
>that the charter for urwr could require that follow-ups be set to urw,
>so that discussion took place here.
But then those who had decided not to opt receive trip reports by not
subscribing to the new group would not know what exactly was being
discussed, but would have to receive those posts anyway.
I can't see a need for splitting the content of this ng - I just mark as
read any subjects that don't interest me and I would suspect that those
who are not interested in reading trip reports do the same.
Martin Clark
Internet Boaters' Database http://www.auluk.freeserve.co.uk/boats
Pennine Waterways Website http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk
David Long
<ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> writes
>The MSC from Ellesmere port to Eastham. UP the Tidal Mersey to Fiddler's
>Ferry, in at Fiddler's Ferry Lock onto section of the Sankey Canal (the
>first narrow boat to do this since this lock was re-opened) Fiddler's Ferry
>to Widnes / Spike Island Lock at West Bank (bottom of the Sankey Canal) Then
>Widnes to Langton Lock, Liverpool Docks, through docks to overnight berth at
>Collingwood Dock. A few waves...........but nothing like last year!
>Also some pictures of Old Runcorn Locks and evening views of Stanley Dock
>Branch locks.
>Tons of not very compressed images behind the thumbnails.
>
>http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
>
a year for sites to show up.
--
David Long
Sankey Canal Restoration Society http://www.scars.org.uk/
St. Mary's http://www.geocities.com/andrew_fishburn/stmary1.html
Wigan Webcam http://www.hutin.u-net.com/webcam/
Neil Arlidge
> In message <bmf1pp$lr8ke$1...@ID-27576.news.uni-berlin.de>, Neil Arlidge
> <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> writes
>> The MSC from Ellesmere port to Eastham. UP the Tidal Mersey to
>> Fiddler's Ferry, in at Fiddler's Ferry Lock onto section of the
>> Sankey Canal (the first narrow boat to do this since this lock was
>> re-opened) Fiddler's Ferry to Widnes / Spike Island Lock at West
>> Bank (bottom of the Sankey Canal) Then Widnes to Langton Lock,
>> Liverpool Docks, through docks to overnight berth at Collingwood
>> Dock. A few waves...........but nothing like last year!
>> Also some pictures of Old Runcorn Locks and evening views of Stanley
>> Dock Branch locks.
>> Tons of not very compressed images behind the thumbnails.
>>
>> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
>>
> Google Alert has picked it up already. Not bad - it sometimes takes
> over
> a year for sites to show up.
I dunno why Google is so pro my site. I have never done anything to promote
it with search engines. I get the most strange requests for information in
the most unlikely places!
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
Andrew J Instone-Cowie
<ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>The MSC from Ellesmere port to Eastham. UP the Tidal Mersey to Fiddler's
>Ferry,
<snip>
I believe that the blue cabin just below the church tower on
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.29.06/Dsc07528.jpg
is all that remains of the transporter bridge.
Andrew
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Neil Arlidge
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:05:28 +0100, "Mike Stevens"
> <mike...@which.net> wrote:
>
>> Molly <nos...@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
>>> progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared
>>> to volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have
>>> advantages in that those who never want to read long postings
>>> wouldn't even have to download the headers; however, the discussion
>>> which results from some such postings could be a great loss to urw.
>>> A possible solution is that the charter for urwr could require that
>>> follow-ups be set to urw, so that discussion took place here.
>>>
>>> But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic
>>> group, would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting
>>> off the trip and progress reports?
>>
>> I say keep 'em here.
>
> this group.
..........so the normal, none waterways related stuff can be picked up on
uk.rec.waterways? ;-)
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Toomanygroupsalready
Dave Croft
news:315qovc4u3u6hnjef...@4ax.com...
> I believe that the blue cabin just below the church tower on
> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.29.06/Dsc07528.jpg
> is all that remains of the transporter bridge.
> Andrew
Not quite right Andrew. The terminal is made of stone & is nearer the bridge.
see http://community.webshots.com/album/73689760ksBHbv
for two shots of Runcorn. One of Ernest shows the shelter you mentioned.
The other shows the side of the Transporter unloading point with a ramp underneath.
I took some pictures of Ernest from the transporter point but as I had the camera over the
wall you can't see it.
Going back 40 years I still remember the fear I had every day when I drove
my Post office telephone van over. They always put a small vehicle near the far gate
& a large tanker came right behind you. It always looked likely you would go into the water.
AH, Happy Days.
Martin Clark
>> I believe that the blue cabin just below the church tower on
>> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.29.06/Dsc07528.jpg
>> is all that remains of the transporter bridge.
>
>see http://community.webshots.com/album/73689760ksBHbv
>for two shots of Runcorn. One of Ernest shows the shelter you mentioned.
For a view of the stone abutment of the former transporter bridge on the
Widnes side, as seen from Earnest click:
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.01.07/Dsc07649.jpg
although Neil has cropped this picture a little. You can see a wider
version which includes the blue shelter at:
http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/Dsc07649.jpg
For a view of the transporter bridge approach, including the stone
cabin, from the Widnes side, see:
http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/Dsc07625.jpg
For a rather better view of another transporter bridge a few miles
upstream in Warrington, see
http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/transporter.jpg
--
Martin
Neil Arlidge
> Dave Croft wrote...
>> "Andrew J Instone-Cowie" <address-...@datagram.co.uk> wrote in
>> message
>>> "Neil Arlidge" <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I believe that the blue cabin just below the church tower on
>>> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.29.06/Dsc07528.jpg
>>> is all that remains of the transporter bridge.
>>
>> Not quite right Andrew. The terminal is made of stone & is nearer
>> the bridge. see http://community.webshots.com/album/73689760ksBHbv
>> for two shots of Runcorn. One of Ernest shows the shelter you
>> mentioned.
>
> For a view of the stone abutment of the former transporter bridge on
> the Widnes side, as seen from Earnest click:
Yes Martin........we know that I was quaking inside while YOU were taking
most of the piccies! ;-)
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest - with an unseaworthy captain........
John Watson
"martin" <mar...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:bp4qovo03tjej5jic...@4ax.com...
> >
> >> If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
> >> progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared
> >> to volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc.
SNIP
> >> But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic group,
> >> would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting off the
> >> trip and progress reports?
> >
> >I say keep 'em here.
>
Martin said
> I say form a special group, all discussion on the reports to held in
> this group.
My preference would be to leave it as it is.
John Watson
nb Tam Lin
Middlewich
Martin Clark
about...
>
>most of the piccies! ;-)
Actually, I was rather impressed at the calm way you were able to sit
inside and leave your boat in the capable hands of your skilled crew! I
managed to get a few photos in between keeping out of their way!
--
Martin
Neil Arlidge
It is better to let Ian Clarke and John Chapman bicker between themselves.
--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
Andy B
Look at the URW.fens newsgroup. People that are interested in
waterways, subscribe to both URW and URW.fens. However, since anything
said on URW.fens is usually relevant to URW as well, the poster will
probably cross-post to both. This means we get it twice, which is a
bit of a pain, especially if it's a 1000 word essay and you've got a
9600 bps line. But you've still got to get both because not everyone
will crosspost.
I'd say definitely stay put on URW.
--
Andy B
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for personal replies, please remove "-NoSpam" from my email address.
Prussia
"John Watson" <jcdot...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Me too
Cheers
Phil
Trevor Pavitt
> In article <b2289f64.03101...@posting.google.com> at 12:50:21
> on Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Andrew Denny <ne...@grannybuttons.com> wrote:
>
>> However, (at the risk of starting to sound like a parrot) I wish they
>> (and other regular trip and progress reports) would convert to blog
>> format. It would make it much easier to track them, and I'm sure they
>> would enjoy the ease of updating.
>
> Putting such reports on the web (which is what a blog requires) would
> make it much harder for those without broadband (whether on a normal
> dial-up, or liveaboards connecting via mobiles) to read the reports at
> their leisure - such that many people probably wouldn't bother.
>snip
No doubt I'm an ignoramus but can somebody please tell me what "blog" format
is?
--
Trevor
Nb Lady Elgar
(Mail to the address given in the header is no longer being
read. To contact me, substitute "clogs2clogs" for "ladyelg".)
Neil Arlidge
>>
>>> If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
>>> progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared
>>> to volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have
>>> advantages in that those who never want to read long postings
>>> wouldn't even have to download the headers; however, the discussion
>>> which results from some such postings could be a great loss to urw.
>>> A possible solution is that the charter for urwr could require that
>>> follow-ups be set to urw, so that discussion took place here.
>>>
>>> But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic
>>> group, would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting
>>> off the trip and progress reports?
>>
>> I say keep 'em here.
>
> this group.
So for people on mobile e-mail - ie the sad gits who post live trip reports
after a 14 hour boating day! ;-), this would be yet another group to have
to pick up!
If people are really minimalist on their mobile e-mail they don't have to
open trip reports.
I say leave things as they are...............after all we are ALL getting on
so well together on uk.rec.waterways.......... at the moment! :-)
There is also the question of getting another sporadic group listed on news
servers.
Andrew J Instone-Cowie
wrote:
>Dave Croft wrote...
>>"Andrew J Instone-Cowie" <address-...@datagram.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> "Neil Arlidge" <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I believe that the blue cabin just below the church tower on
>>> http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.29.06/Dsc07528.jpg
>>> is all that remains of the transporter bridge.
>>
>>Not quite right Andrew. The terminal is made of stone & is nearer the bridge.
>>see http://community.webshots.com/album/73689760ksBHbv
>>for two shots of Runcorn. One of Ernest shows the shelter you mentioned.
>
>For a view of the stone abutment of the former transporter bridge on the
>Widnes side, as seen from Earnest click:
>http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T03_Imag/03.01.07/Dsc07649.jpg
>although Neil has cropped this picture a little. You can see a wider
>version which includes the blue shelter at:
>http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/Dsc07649.jpg
>For a view of the transporter bridge approach, including the stone
>cabin, from the Widnes side, see:
> http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/Dsc07625.jpg
I sit corrected! Must go and have a closer look sometime. I'm sure
I've seen the "blue shelter" described as part of the transporter
bridge, but can't remember where.
>For a rather better view of another transporter bridge a few miles
>upstream in Warrington, see
>http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/images/transporter.jpg
I know where that bridge is, although I've never been able to get near
enough to get a good look. Does it still have its gondola?
John Bennett
>In article <b2289f64.03101...@posting.google.com> at 12:50:21
>on Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Andrew Denny <ne...@grannybuttons.com> wrote:
>
>>However, (at the risk of starting to sound like a parrot) I wish they
>>(and other regular trip and progress reports) would convert to blog
>>format. It would make it much easier to track them, and I'm sure they
>>would enjoy the ease of updating.
>
>Putting such reports on the web (which is what a blog requires) would
>make it much harder for those without broadband (whether on a normal
>dial-up, or liveaboards connecting via mobiles) to read the reports at
>their leisure - such that many people probably wouldn't bother.
>
>If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
>progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared to
>volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have advantages
>in that those who never want to read long postings wouldn't even have to
>download the headers; however, the discussion which results from some
>such postings could be a great loss to urw. A possible solution is
>that the charter for urwr could require that follow-ups be set to urw,
>so that discussion took place here.
>
>But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic group,
>would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting off the
>trip and progress reports?
No more splits, please!! I don't always thoroughly read trip reports,
but I'm more than happy to scan through anything even vaguely waterways
related on urw. I use a slow mobile phone connection when boating and
urw postings take very little time to download at the current level.
Cheers John
--
John Bennett nb "Jake B"
Somerset UK S. Oxford Canal
MSCCo Tug "Bennett" web page
http://www.pearce-bennett.freeserve.co.uk/bennett.htm
Molly
Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Trevor Pavitt <tre...@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>No doubt I'm an ignoramus but can somebody please tell me what "blog" format
>is?
It's a sort of on-line journal, usually updated every day - blog is
short for weblog. If you do a Google for blog you will find thousands -
it's an easy way for non-techies to make use of their free web space.
Most of them are only of interest to friends and family; but
occasionally one might come across a diamond.
Andrew Denny
are already on the web. (e.g. the report from the TNC that prompted my
original comment. I'm just saying that a 'diary/blog' format is an
ideal way to present these - not just for ease of updating, but for
ease of reading and reference to past reports. And other benefits
which I won't mention here.
However, with jargon like
> I'd be prepared to volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc.
gaily bandied around without explanation,
clearly one needs more than a simple interest in trip reports to take
part in uk.rec.waterways -- one needs to be a Usenet buff too :-)
Neil Arlidge
It was a bit of a pain to get to view this side of the Warrington
Transporter Bridge. We left the car in a dogs home then clambered down the
bank to the riverside, where there was a vauge path. There is no gondola or
any of the supporting cables left.
Our exlpo day piccies are at:
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/Mersey.html
Of course due to Capt ****wick we never actually boated up the Mersey beyond
Fiddler's Ferry.
Ian Malcolm
>
>
> So for people on mobile e-mail - ie the sad gits who post live trip reports
> after a 14 hour boating day! ;-), this would be yet another group to have
> to pick up!
> If people are really minimalist on their mobile e-mail they don't have to
> open trip reports.
> I say leave things as they are...............after all we are ALL getting on
> so well together on uk.rec.waterways.......... at the moment! :-)
> There is also the question of getting another sporadic group listed on news
> servers.
>
> --
> Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
> Follow the travels of the TNC at http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk
As a lurker here who has been enjoying the TNC trip reports for a couple
of years, may I suggest two things that would make it simpler for those
who enjoy the trip reports to get them easily while those who detest them
or are on really low bandwidth connections to filter them out.
a). all trip reports to use Trip: in the message subject. Eg. 'Trip: TNC
on tour 2003 #7'
(anyone who doesn't want them can then easily filter them and I can
automatically highlight them)
b). All parts of multipart trip reports to be posted AS A REPLY directly
to the previous part whenever possible( unless it has expired of course),
although changing the subject back to Trip: not Re: Trip:, as this will
make all decent newsreaders see the series as a single thread and so
easier to either kill or mark for attention. Of course ALL the text of
the previous part would be snipped first.
Eg. you'd reply to the above example with the next part and change the
subject you were offered by your newsreader from 'Re: Trip: TNC on tour
2003 #7' to 'Trip: TNC on tour 2003 #8' etc.
Any comments anyone?
Of course the default assumption would be that Trip: marks a long diary
style post.
I dont quite get the point of blogging, What benefits does it offer over
posting your diary to a usenet newsgroup? (apart from the fact that as you
control the site you can stuff commercials at your readers and censor any
discussion you provoke!) Usenet was here first, and IMHO does this sort
of thing rather better.
--
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wooden racing dinghy circa. 1961
Dave Croft
It is parked on the south bank of the river.
I have a few photo,s of it but you had better weather
so you had a better picture.
I will try to use my local contacts to get a picture of the car
& better pictures of the bridge.
PS Every friday I drink with one of the transporter drivers.
PPS The Warrington local Librarian told me that a European
commision was interested in preserving the bridge.
--
Dave Croft
Warrington
England
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
Su/Cutworks
> I dont quite get the point of blogging, What benefits does it offer over
> posting your diary to a usenet newsgroup? (apart from the fact that as you
> control the site you can stuff commercials at your readers and censor any
> discussion you provoke!)
I find that I can write when I wish and say things that would not be
considered either relevant to the newsgroup or perhaps not interesting to
the group at large. Plus, it gives the abililty to present the information
in a more visual style, with photos available in the message which
newsgroups don't offer (for good reason, I agree). It's also a way to
present the information without a comet trail of discussion on any and all
topics under the sun. I like the digressions in a newsgroup, I just also
like the ability to write what I want to present without feeling it will be
hijacked within three minutes by an entirely different topic.
I don't think one style is better than another, simply different. I am
trying to find and archive my trip reports on my blog, simply as a way to
have them available in a fashion that allows instant access to them without
having to dig through Google archives. TypePad lets me put them up in a
better format than simply putting them up on our website, as I'm not all
that great at organizing things. It's easier for me to simply date the
report and let the program sort them by date.
-Su
Neil Arlidge
The problem is I cross post it to a few groups............I suppose that
would still work.
> Of course the default assumption would be that Trip: marks a long
> diary
> style post.
>
> I dont quite get the point of blogging,
It would not suit me either, or in the end I would end up with a rather long
blog!
Neil Arlidge
> Hi Neil, The Gondola is still there.
> It is parked on the south bank of the river.
> I have a few photo,s of it but you had better weather
> so you had a better picture.
> I will try to use my local contacts to get a picture of the car
> & better pictures of the bridge.
> PS Every friday I drink with one of the transporter drivers.
> PPS The Warrington local Librarian told me that a European
> commision was interested in preserving the bridge.
I stand corrected.............you really MUST get us all a piccy now!
David Long
<mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Andy B
><andrew...@btopenworld-NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Look at the URW.fens newsgroup.
>
>
:-))
Anyone heard from him lately, btw? He's not posted his news for a week
or so.
>
>maybe it's time to kill urwf?
>
The undead? I'll fetch the garlic.
David Long
<mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:19:46 +0100, David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk>
>wrote:
>>>
>>
>>The undead? I'll fetch the garlic.
>
You couldn't afford the Fees.
Andrew Denny
> blog!
Ahem, well, you're ending up with a rather long post whatever you do!
But I'm not saying don't post to Usenet. I'm saying that the blog
format is ideal for maintaining a trip-log website.
Neil Arlidge
> In message <a4gsov8oeo6msuft2...@4ax.com>, martin
> <mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:19:46 +0100, David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <ttuqovgib68s9e5lq...@4ax.com>, martin
>>> <mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>>>>
>>>> maybe it's time to kill urwf?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The undead? I'll fetch the garlic.
>>
>> The unburied. Is there a vicar in the house?
>
> You couldn't afford the Fees.
The Fenfees?
I must admit to trying to kick start some traffic on urwf, seeing as the
area is a particular favourite of mine........but with little sucsess.
Wot about starting uk.rec.waterways.mersey? ;-)
Neil Arlidge
>> It would not suit me either, or in the end I would end up with a
>> rather long blog!
>
> Ahem, well, you're ending up with a rather long post whatever you do!
Not anymore.........just how much can you pad out a trip report on the Dee
Locks Branch / Chester Weir / River Dee, the Mont from Queen's Head to
Maesbury and Bugsworth Basins?
Dave Croft
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:44:01 +0100, Molly <nos...@mollymockford.me.uk>
> wrote:
> >In article <BBB3419F.6409%tre...@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> at 18:25:35 on
> >Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Trevor Pavitt <tre...@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>No doubt I'm an ignoramus but can somebody please tell me what "blog" format is?
> >It's a sort of on-line journal, usually updated every day - blog is
> >short for weblog. If you do a Google for blog you will find thousands -
> >it's an easy way for non-techies to make use of their free web space.
> >Most of them are only of interest to friends and family; but
> >occasionally one might come across a diamond.
>
> Martin
Hi Martin, I signed up to a free Blog service a couple of weeks ago.
http://new.blogger.com/
I managed to put one article up but I haven't spent enough time on it to give a proper opinion.
The article is at http://davecroft.blogspot.com/
(This is an old article I just copied & pasted to try it out.)
It even publishes the pages for you so you don't need a website.
If anyone tries it & likes it please let me know.
Peter Stockdale
"Dave Croft" <dave....@unusual.com> wrote in message
news:vLvjb.3883$mM1....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
> Have had a quick go at this Dave and I do like it. Not yet fully explored
the possibilities but you could have certainly started a craze !!
Only took a couple of minutes to sort out the "site"
I am now at www.canals.blogspot.com
Pete Stockdale
www.thecanalshop.com
Nick Atty
>On 16 Oct 2003 00:45:41 -0700, ne...@grannybuttons.com (Andrew Denny)
>wrote:
>What is the "blog format".?I know what a blog is.
I don't think that there is a "format" per se (don't call me Percy). A
blog is html or it wouldn't display on your website, but the blogging
system creates it for you meaning you don't have to hand craft all those
lovely <blink>html</blink> tags.
--
On-line canal route planner: http://www.canalplan.org.uk
(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)
David Long
<mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>><mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Andy B
>>><andrew...@btopenworld-NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Look at the URW.fens newsgroup.
>>>
>>>Bill Davies might say "I told you so"
>>>
>>:-))
>>
>>Anyone heard from him lately, btw? He's not posted his news for a week
>>or so.
>
>
We've conjured the old devil up! He's just emailed me to ask if I can
get him a bit of metalwork done so's he can move onto the Saone and to
the Marne next week.
David Long
<mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:44:09 +0100, David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <a4gsov8oeo6msuft2...@4ax.com>, martin
>><mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:19:46 +0100, David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <ttuqovgib68s9e5lq...@4ax.com>, martin
>>>><mar...@wanadoo.nl> writes
>>>>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Andy B
>>>>><andrew...@btopenworld-NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at the URW.fens newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill Davies might say "I told you so"
>>>>>
>>>>:-))
>>>>
>>>>Anyone heard from him lately, btw? He's not posted his news for a week
>>>>or so.
>>>
>>>Much longer.
>>>
>>We've conjured the old devil up! He's just emailed me to ask if I can
>>get him a bit of metalwork done so's he can move onto the Saone and to
>>the Marne next week.
>
That's dead easy - I've got a set of them in my front garden. I'll send
a pic to fubc...
Trevor Pavitt
> Putting such reports on the web (which is what a blog requires) would
> make it much harder for those without broadband (whether on a normal
> dial-up, or liveaboards connecting via mobiles) to read the reports at
> their leisure - such that many people probably wouldn't bother.
>
> If anybody felt the urgent need for a new group to take trip and
> progress reports (uk.rec.waterways.reports, perhaps) I'd be prepared to
> volunteer to RFD it and nurse it through unnc. It could have advantages
> in that those who never want to read long postings wouldn't even have to
> download the headers; however, the discussion which results from some
> such postings could be a great loss to urw. A possible solution is
> that the charter for urwr could require that follow-ups be set to urw,
> so that discussion took place here.
>
> But what do others think? Given that this is a medium-traffic group,
> would there be more advantage than disadvantage in splitting off the
> trip and progress reports?
We are liveaboards. FWIW I don't have any problems with downloading
newsgroup headers via my mobile when out cruising but I don't use the web
except for online banking. I'm usually highly selective in the newsgroup
messages I choose to read.
When on our mooring I have a BT line so can use normal dial-up and happily
surf the web (and read blogs).
Personally I am very happy to see trip reports appearing on urw as long as
they are clearly marked as such but I think that posters should make every
effort to keep them concise - many of us (myself included) put too much
value on our golden words and imagine them being pored over by hundreds of
enthusiasts whereas the truth, I suspect, is that a handful of people merely
skim over them.
Andrew J Instone-Cowie
<ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>Andrew Denny wrote:
>>> It would not suit me either, or in the end I would end up with a
>>> rather long blog!
>>
>> Ahem, well, you're ending up with a rather long post whatever you do!
>
>Not anymore.........just how much can you pad out a trip report on the Dee
>Locks Branch / Chester Weir...
About a fortnight if you had to wait for the next springs? :-)
A.
Neil Arlidge
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:43:35 +0100, "Neil Arlidge"
> <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Denny wrote:
>>>> It would not suit me either, or in the end I would end up with a
>>>> rather long blog!
>>>
>>> Ahem, well, you're ending up with a rather long post whatever you
>>> do!
>>
>> Not anymore.........just how much can you pad out a trip report on
>> the Dee Locks Branch / Chester Weir...
>
> About a fortnight if you had to wait for the next springs? :-)
No..........a year!..........we intend to come back on the top of next April
Spings..........the highest of the year................which for some reason
is 0.4M less than this April.
Mike Stevens
> Andrew J Instone-Cowie wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:43:35 +0100, "Neil Arlidge"
>> <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew Denny wrote:
>>>>> It would not suit me either, or in the end I would end up with a
>>>>> rather long blog!
>>>>
>>>> Ahem, well, you're ending up with a rather long post whatever you
>>>> do!
>>>
>>> Not anymore.........just how much can you pad out a trip report on
>>> the Dee Locks Branch / Chester Weir...
>>
>> About a fortnight if you had to wait for the next springs? :-)
>
> No..........a year!..........we intend to come back on the top of
> next April Spings..........the highest of the
> year................which for some reason is 0.4M less than this
> April.
I blame the Guv'mint. Another Stealth Tax!
--
Mike Stevens, narrowboat Felis Catus II
Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.
Andy B
David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk> typed:
>I'll send a pic to fubc...
GRRRRRR!
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