Yet another TNC On Tour 2003 Website update
Neil Arlidge
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
Next will be the exciting bits!
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Andrew J Instone-Cowie
<ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>The rest of the HNC + Ashton +Rochdale 9.
>
>http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
That reminds me - anyone know whether there has been a change in the
level of the pound above Ancoats top lock at some point in the past?
The top gate seems to stick up out of the water a long way, and it's
possible to see into the ground paddle chambers either side. The whole
thing looks like the water above the lock was inteneded to be about a
foot deeper than it is now.
Andrew
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Bob Holmes
Andrew,
Mining subsidence , from the Bradford Colliery caused this. The length
from lock 3 to 4 has sunk. Lock 4, apparently a shallow lock , is
actually as deep as the nearby lock 5, around 12ft drop originally. When
the canal was being reopened in the early 70's it was necessary to
excavate through the bed of the canal above lock 3 for about
500yards to get navigable depth consistent with the other end of this
pound. This has caused the towpath to be rather higher than the canal
and the strange effect of the water being close to towpath level at one
end and way below at the other.
There was an arm to the Bradford Colliery just above Lock 6, it is
just possible to see the entrance to it. The low headroom on the railway
viaduct near lock 4 was rather lower in 1974 than it is now, , and
posed a problem for boaters .British Rail came along one weekend and
literally jacked up the bridge ,realigned the track and gave us
reasonable headroom.
Bill
Chris N Deuchar
> Andrew J Instone-Cowie wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:53:01 +0100, "Neil Arlidge"
>> <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>The rest of the HNC + Ashton +Rochdale 9.
>>>
>>>http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
>>
>> That reminds me - anyone know whether there has been a change in the
>> level of the pound above Ancoats top lock at some point in the past?
>> The top gate seems to stick up out of the water a long way, and it's
>> possible to see into the ground paddle chambers either side. The whole
>> thing looks like the water above the lock was inteneded to be about a
>> foot deeper than it is now.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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> Andrew,
> Mining subsidence , from the Bradford Colliery caused this.
> There was an arm to the Bradford Colliery just above Lock 6, it is
> just possible to see the entrance to it.
Is it lock 6 that has a road bridge over the tail? Anyway,
whichever lock this is, does it still have a bottom cill that is
too close to the top - necessitating putting boards on the weir of
the next lock down (5?) to get over it in anything above 2' 6"
draft?
Chris D
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Bob Holmes
Chris,
That's the one . Some years ago the bye wash at 5 was raised a little ,
but the problem persists. This week-end BW staff were " inspecting" the
Ashton Canal from the comfort of a hire boat with a less than 2ft draft.
I expect they will report no problems to their management even though
the summit level was around 8 ins down on Saturday.
The previous week-end we had issues concerning limited depth of the
canal whilst moving an ex Cowburn & Cowper boat with a c3ft draft.
Bill
Chris N Deuchar
> Chris N Deuchar wrote:
>> Is it lock 6 that has a road bridge over the tail? Anyway,
>> whichever lock this is, does it still have a bottom cill that is
>> too close to the top - necessitating putting boards on the weir of
>> the next lock down (5?) to get over it in anything above 2' 6"
>> draft?
>
> That's the one . Some years ago the bye wash at 5 was raised a little ,
> but the problem persists. This week-end BW staff were " inspecting" the
> Ashton Canal from the comfort of a hire boat with a less than 2ft draft.
> I expect they will report no problems to their management even though
> the summit level was around 8 ins down on Saturday.
> The previous week-end we had issues concerning limited depth of the
> canal whilst moving an ex Cowburn & Cowper boat with a c3ft draft.
Thanks. The HNBOC is compiling a list of 'pinch points' (BW term!)
throughout the country which we will put on our website in due
course. I will make sure this one goes on the list as I have
'personal experience' of it - twice!
In this context we/I would be glad to hear of any similar problems
anywhere else on the system. I must however emphasise that the
need for dredging is NOT part of this and is treated separately.
We are looking for places where the 'official' gauge is less that
it should be due to engineering issues.
Anybody looking at www.hnboc.org.uk might be disappointed at the
moment (but I should be glad to hear to the contrary) as following
a failure of our free webserver, I am at last moving everything to
a paid for service - mainly for more space.
David Kitching
<address-...@datagram.co.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:53:01 +0100, "Neil Arlidge"
><ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>The rest of the HNC + Ashton +Rochdale 9.
>>
>>http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
>
>That reminds me - anyone know whether there has been a change in the
>level of the pound above Ancoats top lock at some point in the past?
>The top gate seems to stick up out of the water a long way, and it's
>possible to see into the ground paddle chambers either side. The whole
>thing looks like the water above the lock was inteneded to be about a
>foot deeper than it is now.
Bradford Colliery.
The level of the pound has been altered due to subsidence which has not affected
the lock itself.
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David Kitching
Andrew J Instone-Cowie
wrote:
>Andrew J Instone-Cowie wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:53:01 +0100, "Neil Arlidge"
>> <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >The rest of the HNC + Ashton +Rochdale 9.
>> >
>> >http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_03/index.html
>>
>> That reminds me - anyone know whether there has been a change in the
>> level of the pound above Ancoats top lock at some point in the past?
>
>Mining subsidence , from the Bradford Colliery caused this. The length
>from lock 3 to 4 has sunk. Lock 4, apparently a shallow lock , is
>actually as deep as the nearby lock 5, around 12ft drop originally. When
>the canal was being reopened in the early 70's it was necessary to
>excavate through the bed of the canal above lock 3 for about
>500yards to get navigable depth consistent with the other end of this
>pound. This has caused the towpath to be rather higher than the canal
>and the strange effect of the water being close to towpath level at one
>end and way below at the other.
> There was an arm to the Bradford Colliery just above Lock 6, it is
>just possible to see the entrance to it. The low headroom on the railway
>viaduct near lock 4 was rather lower in 1974 than it is now, , and
>posed a problem for boaters .British Rail came along one weekend and
>literally jacked up the bridge ,realigned the track and gave us
>reasonable headroom.
Fascinating! Thanks for that. The Bradford Colliery arm is marked on
my "Canals of Manchester" map, but I didn't notice it on the ground,
so to speak.