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Andy Wood

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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How many works of fiction to you know that are set on the canals? Er...
Temple Thurston's "Flower of Gloucester", A. P. Herbert's "The Water
Gypsies", er... See what I mean? And even those two aren't exactly
contemporary. I beg forgiveness if anyone thinks I'm being crassly
commercial but, if you're fond of the canals - as obviously you are - and
enjoy fiction, I think you'll enjoy my novel "Green Man". "Waterways World"
said that "contemporary fiction set on the canals is rare, so this book is
eagerly awaited". An intelligent, atmospheric thriller, it is set on the
Staffs & Worcs, the Shroppie and the Llangollen, so you'll have fun trying
to catch me out on details (although I have created a couple of fictional
locations).

Published by Citron Press, ISBN 0 7544 0010 7, Price £7.99 (but cheaper from
Amazon.co.uk). Also available from citronpress.co.uk and from all good
bookshops.

I'd be delighted to hear the opinions of readers. One of the wonderful
advantages of the Net is that authors can communicate with readers so
directly. Incidentally, the next book "Bene Dictum" is set on the northern
part of the Trent & Mersey. More to come...

Ian and Jo Jeremiah

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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In article <7soh1l$flp$1...@nclient15-gui.server.virgin.net>, "Andy Wood"

<andy...@virgin.net> wrote:
> "Waterways
> World"
> said that "contemporary fiction set on the canals is rare, so this book is
> eagerly awaited".

SWMBO wrote that review, or words to that effect!

> An intelligent, atmospheric thriller, it is set on the
>Staffs & Worcs, the Shroppie and the Llangollen, so you'll have fun trying
>to catch me out on details

There is at least one little mistake but we'll let everyone buy the book to
find out what it is!

It is a very readable book, we both enjoyed it!

By the way, SWMBO has also written a new book on the pictorial history of
the Warwickshire Avon, but she is far too modest to advertise it here! ;-)

Ian

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Tony Clarke

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Andy Wood wrote in message <7soh1l$flp$1...@nclient15-gui.server.virgin.net>...

>One of the wonderful advantages of the Net is that authors can communicate
with >readers so directly

One of the disadvantages of the Net is that would-be readers might well
bristle just a *little* at a commercial plug not preceded by the word AD or
ADVERT in the header. After all, it is a discussion group primarily.

You might also find that "good bookshops" might be reluctant to stock a
book whose author urges buyers to undercut shop prices by buying from
Amazon? Keep in with these lovely hardworking folks or we will pick up your
tome in the 99p rack at Booksale yet...

Funny old game, publishing....

Tony Clarke

Christopher Oxborrow

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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Andy Wood has a conveniently short memory. My book 'The Lancaster Crossing'
which takes the construction of the Lancaster canal as its central theme,
was published by Citron Press on the same day as 'Green Man'. However, I
feel some readers might be interested in more than just a slow drift down
the canals, more concerned with the dark deeds which raised the money, the
materials and the labour to construct these huge feats of engineering. The
Lancaster Crossing will take you on the fearsome slave trade, round the
Baltic and confront you with Napoleon marching across Europe. As Richard
Fairhurst said in 'Canal Boat' "Oxborrow has a flair for dialogue...Fans of
authentic historical dramas will doubtless find it unputdownable. "Try it.
From all bookshops and internet. ISBN 0754400050 Chris Oxborrow.

Andy Mabbett

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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In article <7stba5$9vp$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Tony Clarke
<TonyC...@careers.cam.ac.uk> writes

> One of the disadvantages of the Net is that would-be readers might well
>bristle just a *little* at a commercial plug not preceded by the word AD or
>ADVERT in the header. After all, it is a discussion group primarily.

The charter reads:

Advertising:

Advertising will not be allowed, however if an individual wishes
to trade an item of interest to the group, they can post to this
effect.

Nothing about allowing ads if tagged.
--
Andy Mabbett
"If they censure you, they tell you to cut it out.
If they censor you, they just cut it out."

Andy Wood

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Oct 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/3/99
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My sincere apologies to my fellow Citron Press author, Chris Oxborrow, for
the lapse that made me omit mentioning his fine book, "The Lancaster
Crossing". Believe me, I wouldn't deliberately snub a fellow toiler at the
keyboard! What was uppermost in my mind was the fact that "Green Man" has a
contemporary setting. Chris' book, as he says, delves into the fascinating
historical aspects of building the Lancaster Canal. With that canal
currently in the news because of the work that is going on to connect it to
the rest of the system by water for the first time, now is the time to read
Chris' book.

Back on the topic of my novel, "Green Man", I can do no better than quote a
review from a reader in California: "I thoroughly enjoyed Andy Wood’s "Green
Man". A narrow boat holiday and a mystery combine to produce a good story
in a wonderful setting. The mystery grows from the circumstances of the
canal trip, resulting in a story that is both gentle (maximum speed on the
canals is 4 mph) and exciting. The characters are well developed, especially
members of various police forces who confound the stereotypes in interesting
ways.

So thank you from California, rather a long way from the English canals. I’d
like to hear more from Andy Wood.

AW

Andy Mabbett

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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In article <7soh1l$flp$1...@nclient15-gui.server.virgin.net>, Andy Wood
<andy...@virgin.net> writes

>Subject: Fiction set on the English waterways
[...] ^^^^^^^^^


>How many works of fiction to you know that are set on the canals?

^^^^^^

Make your mind up ;-)

Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome, was set on a river - which was
it? If fictional, was it based on something real?

Paul E. Bennett

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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In article <xfRUmqB5oP$3E...@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk>
an...@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk "Andy Mabbett" writes:

[%X]

> Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome, was set on a river - which was
> it? If fictional, was it based on something real?

That would be the River Thames and many of the pubs mentioned are still
there (although the character of quite a number have changed markedly).
The story was supposed to be the log of a trip made by three men who
set out with the intention of going from London to the source of the
Thames (if I remember correctly. I am sure I'll see corrections if I am
wrong in any of this).

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Mike George

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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"Paul E. Bennett" wrote in message
<939335...@amleth.demon.co.uk>...

>In article <xfRUmqB5oP$3E...@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk>
> an...@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk "Andy Mabbett" writes:
>
>[%X]
>
>> Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome, was set on a river -
which was
>> it? If fictional, was it based on something real?
>
>That would be the River Thames and many of the pubs mentioned
are still
>there (although the character of quite a number have changed
markedly).
>The story was supposed to be the log of a trip made by three men
who
>set out with the intention of going from London to the source of
the
>Thames (if I remember correctly. I am sure I'll see corrections
if I am
>wrong in any of this).
>


Wasn't the question "which was it?" about the inconsistency
between the subject (...waterways) and the text (...canals)?

Do waterways exist?
--
Mike George in Bristol, UK


Andrew Harrison

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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I took The Green Man on my annual canal jaunt this easter - it was
particularly enjoyable whilst we were travelling between Autherley &
Nantwich!


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Andy Mabbett

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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In article <7tk26d$ma7$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Mike George <mike.george@
cartergeorge.co.uk> writes

>Wasn't the question "which was it?" about the inconsistency
>between the subject (...waterways) and the text (...canals)?

No.

Mike George

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Andy Mabbett wrote in message ...

>In article <7tk26d$ma7$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Mike George
<mike.george@
>cartergeorge.co.uk> writes
>>Wasn't the question "which was it?" about the inconsistency
>>between the subject (...waterways) and the text (...canals)?
>
>No.


Oh.

Tony Clarke

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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Andy Mabbett wrote in message ...

>Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome, was set on a river - which was


>it? If fictional, was it based on something real?


And you working in a library and all. Tut tut. Do read it (I assume you
can't have done or you'd immediately know its setting), it's one of the
funniest novels in the English language, as indeed is anything written by
Jerome. If it's any incentive, he was a native of Walsall - though he left
at an early age - and there is a Jerome Society that is based in that area
(or certainly was).

We had a thread on here on canal fiction a couple of years back
(therefore not on DejaNews?) which turned up quite a few references.

If I could meet one literary figure from the past, a boozy lunchtime in
a riverside pub with Jerome would be magnificent. Christopher Marlowe would
be a close second, but at a safe distance.

Tony Clarke

Paul Jerome

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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On the subject of Jerome K Jerome.

Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to know if I am
related.

Paul Jerome

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Bill

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:40:55 +0100, "Paul Jerome"
<paul....@cwcom.net> wrote:

> On the subject of Jerome K Jerome.
>
> Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to know if I am
> related.

Not to hand, no. But they are not a secret. Who's Who? and
other books of biographical details on the reference shelves of
your local library should be a good start.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a web site.

One of the printings I read had some details in it.

Toodle pip!!

Bill
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Tony Clarke

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Paul Jerome wrote in message ...

>On the subject of Jerome K Jerome.
>
>Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to know if I am
>related.


For you and anyone else interested, I found this address via Alta Vista:

http://www.sndc.demon.co.uk/authdet.htm#JKJ

The Jerome K. Jerome Society
Jerome Klapka Jerome
contact: Mr. A.A. Gray, c/o Fraser Wood, Mayo & Pinson, 15 Lichfield
Street, Walsall, West Midlands WS1 1TS

Tel: 01922 27686, Fax: 01922 721065

The link to another Jerome site doesn't work. However another option is
reading Three Men In A Boat online (for those who don't get out enough) as
part of Project Gutenberg, for which you go to:

ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/etext/gutenberg/etext95/3boat10.txt


Mike George

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Bill wrote in message <38130aaf...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:40:55 +0100, "Paul Jerome"
><paul....@cwcom.net> wrote:
>
>> On the subject of Jerome K Jerome.
>>
>> Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to
know if I am
>> related.
>
>Not to hand, no. But they are not a secret. Who's Who? and
>other books of biographical details on the reference shelves of
>your local library should be a good start.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if there is a web site.


If you're serious about finding whether there's a connection the
only safe place to start is with yourself and work backwards. And
whatever details you find from books or web sites, you can't be
sure until you've checked the sources yourself.
news:soc.genealogy.britain is a good place to find others who
might have leads, but they get a bit fed up with the "I'm Fred
Smith, can anybody tell me who my great grandfather was please"
type of enquiry, so get some info before you start!

Andy Mabbett

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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In article <xJLP3.135$Z%.5944@news2-hme0>, Paul Jerome
<paul....@cwcom.net> writes

>Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to know if I am
>related.

The Jerome K Jerome Society will have; If you can't find a better
address, write c/o the JKJ Birthplace museum, Bridgeman Street, Walsall.

A month ago, there was also a small JKJ exhibition (first editions,
original of magazine serialisations, personal belongings, photographs,
etc.) in Stourbridge Library, but I don't know if it's still on.

Paul Jerome

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Thanks to everybody who replied on this subject. I now have some leads to go
on.

BTW when we finally manage to afford our own narrowboat, we would like to
call it Montmorency.

Paul Jerome


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Mike Stevens

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Paul Jerome wrote:
>
> BTW when we finally manage to afford our own narrowboat, we would like to
> call it Montmorency.

Sounds a bit expensive in signwriting :-)

--
Mike Stevens, nb Felis Catus II

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The pessimist says the glass is half-empty.
The engineer says the glass is bigger than needed by a factor of two.

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Paul Jerome

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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It's one letter less than Felis Catus II
Mike Stevens <mike...@which.net> wrote in message
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hart

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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Bill wrote in message <38130aaf...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:40:55 +0100, "Paul Jerome"
><paul....@cwcom.net> wrote:
>
>> On the subject of Jerome K Jerome.
>>
>> Does anyone have any family history on him. I would love to know if I am
>> related.
>

You may be interested to know that JKJ is buried in Ewelme, not far from
Benson in Oxfordshire.


Nick Wedd

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Oct 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/25/99
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In article <7soh1l$flp$1...@nclient15-gui.server.virgin.net>, Andy Wood
<andy...@virgin.net> writes
>How many works of fiction to you know that are set on the canals? Er...

I vaguely remember a Michael Innes detective story in which the stolen
antiques are hidden in a canal boat in the disused tunnel.

Pretty marginal, I admit.

Nick
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