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Keith

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Feb 17, 2003, 2:37:01 PM2/17/03
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Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the painted
patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?
Were they specific to particular canal carriers?
We call ours 'Chinaman',but I gather it is also known as 'Mickey
Mouse'(or is this just a passing reference to the steerer).
With a wave to you all.
Keith & Marlene Palmer
nb Hope

David Long

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Feb 17, 2003, 3:05:44 PM2/17/03
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In message <393418e.03021...@posting.google.com>, Keith
<kmj.p...@btopenworld.com> writes

>Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the painted
>patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?

First you'll have to get used to saying "narrow boat"....
--
David Long
Sankey Canal Restoration Society http://www.scars.org.uk/
Updated January 2002 - with the Autumn issue of our magazine CANAL CUTTINGS -
illustrated

Exiledbaggie

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Feb 17, 2003, 3:42:39 PM2/17/03
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>>Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the painted
>>patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?
>
>First you'll have to get used to saying "narrow boat"....
>

Personally I always use narrowboat as a generic term for narrow beamed canal
craft.

On the original point, I was speaking to Joe Worsey (a former boatbuilder on
the BCN) a few years ago and he told me that it was one of his yards painters
started the mickey mouse pattern on the back of the cabins. It was used on
joeys that were built/docked at his yard in Walsall.

Andy

http://www.ammodels.4t.com

Graham Keens

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Feb 17, 2003, 3:54:52 PM2/17/03
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Keith asked "Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the

painted patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?

The book "Roses & Castles" by Robert J. Wilson (1976 for the Stoke Bruerne
Museum) has a section all about this on page 30. with illustrations of the
different 'mouse ears!!' painted by different yards on page 36. Sorry, no
ISBN number but it was 80p!

Precis .... many variations that originally evolved from a simple ogee shape
closely following the outline of the cabin and resembling a cottage door
arch. Different yards created variations on the basic shapes to denote their
work.

Graham
http://www.jannock.org.uk


Bob Adams

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Feb 17, 2003, 4:36:45 PM2/17/03
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In message <3e514cb0$1...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>, Graham
Keens <famil...@lineone.net> writes

>Precis .... many variations that originally evolved from a simple ogee
>shape closely following the outline of the cabin and resembling a
>cottage door arch. Different yards created variations on the basic
>shapes to denote their work.
>
Interesting. So how come they all evolved into one common design (which
personally, I've never really cared for.)

--
Bob Adams - NB Ophelia. email to: ams...@ntlworld.com

Keith

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Feb 17, 2003, 6:44:48 PM2/17/03
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David Long <Da...@scars.org.uk> wrote in message news:<PFBlMlBY...@scars.org.uk>...

> In message <393418e.03021...@posting.google.com>, Keith
> <kmj.p...@btopenworld.com> writes
> >Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the painted
> >patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?
>
> First you'll have to get used to saying "narrow boat"....
Narrowboat...narrow boat...Why's that then ?
K.P.

Andrew Denny

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Feb 17, 2003, 7:23:28 PM2/17/03
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Correction: first you'll have to get used to ignoring pedantic one-line replies!

Mike Stevens

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Feb 17, 2003, 7:35:42 PM2/17/03
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Keith <kmj.p...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Would anyone care to advise on the protocol/origins of the painted
> patterns on the external backsides of narrowboat back cabins?
> Were they specific to particular canal carriers?

I think, like so many such questions, the answer has to be "sometimes
but not always".

> We call ours 'Chinaman',but I gather it is also known as 'Mickey
> Mouse'(or is this just a passing reference to the steerer).

"Mouse's Ears" is a well-known name for the pattern, and I'm sure that
it's Mickey who's intended.

Ours on Felis Catus II is a bit different - pussy-cat's ears - see
http://www.mike-stevens.co.uk/aboutme/felis/fc2newpaintstern.htm . A
bit after we'd had our boat painted by a good friend, another friend of
ours who's a teddy bear fanatic had hers painted by the same chap and
had a teddy bear version of the same.

--
Mike Stevens, narrowboat Felis Catus II
Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.


Paul Jerome

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Feb 18, 2003, 4:02:07 AM2/18/03
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"Mike Stevens" <mike...@which.net> wrote in message
news:b2rv4b$1g4e5t$1...@ID-170573.news.dfncis.de...

> Keith <kmj.p...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> > We call ours 'Chinaman',but I gather it is also known as 'Mickey
> > Mouse'(or is this just a passing reference to the steerer).
>
> "Mouse's Ears" is a well-known name for the pattern, and I'm sure that
> it's Mickey who's intended.
>
> Ours on Felis Catus II is a bit different - pussy-cat's ears - see
> http://www.mike-stevens.co.uk/aboutme/felis/fc2newpaintstern.htm . A
> bit after we'd had our boat painted by a good friend, another friend of
> ours who's a teddy bear fanatic had hers painted by the same chap and
> had a teddy bear version of the same.
>
> --
> Mike Stevens, narrowboat Felis Catus II
> Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
> No man is an island. So is Man.
>

Sovereign Narrowboats have changed the basic shape into a crown to reflect
their boat names.

Paul Jerome


Brian Dominic

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:34:32 AM2/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:02:07 -0000, "Paul Jerome"
<paul....@nospam.jeromes.org> had a frenetic dose of key-bashing
and wrote:

>
>Sovereign Narrowboats have changed the basic shape into a crown to reflect
>their boat names.
>

Club Line used a large "club" symbol, as used on the playing
cards.......

I've heard it said that the shapes of the "earoles" were different so
that illiterate boaters knew which company owned the boat, at a
distance if need be. I certainly didn't have a design when we put the
earoles on the back of Rumpus's cabin..........


Brian L Dominic

NB Rumpus

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Neil Arlidge

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Feb 18, 2003, 12:32:21 PM2/18/03
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Shirley Sovereign are caput?.........
Peak Forest hireboats have a castle shape as all their boats are named after
castles.
All N Bear Nest's decor bits were copied from other boats by myself, as the
painter of N Bear Nest was a transport painter. Unfortunatly he did not get
the *cushions* right on the hatches and they have pointy ends (they should
be cut off)
For that reason he used the motor trade method of sign writing. The writing
was laid out on thickish paper. The back was then chalked and the paper
stuck on the side / hatches with a couple of bits of masking tape. The
outline was then drawn round to leave a faint chalk outline on the boat. The
good thing with so many visits to N Bear Nest, meant that I managed to
retrieve these paper templates.

--
Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
Follow the travels of the TNC at: http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk


Paul Jerome

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Feb 18, 2003, 2:58:32 PM2/18/03
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"Neil Arlidge" <ne...@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Jerome wrote:
> > "Mike Stevens" <mike...@which.net> wrote in message
> > news:b2rv4b$1g4e5t$1...@ID-170573.news.dfncis.de...
> >> Keith <kmj.p...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sovereign Narrowboats have changed the basic shape into a crown to
> > reflect their boat names.
>
> Shirley Sovereign are caput?.........
>>
> --
> Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest
> Follow the travels of the TNC at: http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk
>
>

They have stopped hiring and gone into time share. Shame, I was rather fond
of their boats, and hired from them several times.

Paul Jerome


Ian and Jo Jeremiah

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Feb 18, 2003, 3:14:49 PM2/18/03
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In article <Z3V7NPIt...@ntlworld.com>,

Bob Adams <ams...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> In message <3e514cb0$1...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>, Graham
> Keens <famil...@lineone.net> writes
> >Precis .... many variations that originally evolved from a simple ogee
> >shape closely following the outline of the cabin and resembling a
> >cottage door arch. Different yards created variations on the basic
> >shapes to denote their work.
> >
> Interesting. So how come they all evolved into one common design (which
> personally, I've never really cared for.)

Tony Lewery's 'Narrow Boat Painting' links the mouse's earholes with
spectacle decorations applied to farm waggons in the 19th. century.

The book has a page showing 10 examples of different earholes and some of
the photographs in the book show 3 or 4 more extra designs!

The most common design, then and now, appears to be based on FMC's
pattern.

I looked at the backends of some of the boats at Calcutt today and saw at
least 6 different designs (all illustrated in the book) as well as 4 or 5
variations of the FMC version.

Ian J
nb FMC Mouse ears!

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john

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:54:34 PM2/17/03
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Mike Stevens <mike...@which.net> wrote in message
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> "Mouse's Ears" is a well-known name for the pattern, and I'm sure that
> it's Mickey who's intended.

Shirley mouse ears would adequately cover the description?:-)

Avoid Disneyland Europe like the plague, it's run by a Mickey Mouse
organisation:-)


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