Re: gmane.recreation.broadsboating
Julian
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Posting to broadsboating as a Newsgroup doesn't work properly.
>
> "You have sent a message to be posted on the
> gmane.recreation.broadsboating newsgroup.
>
>
> This is a non-public mailing list, which means that you have to
> subscribe to the list to post to it. If you're already subscribed to
> the list, Gmane can forward the message you sent to the list if you
> respond
> to this message. If not, you should sign up to the mailing list first,
> and then respond to this message, or just forget about it.
>
> Many mailing lists have an option to subscribe to a list, but then put
> it in 'nomail' mode, which means that you won't receive any mail from
> the list.
>
> The mailing list software used for the list in question is egroups."
It does work fine but you have to be subscribed to the yahoogroup as well as
using Gmane unless the yahoogroup is open to accept non members posts.
Simple really
Julian
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
In which case are you sending from the same email address that you use for
yahoo? if not or you are using an invalid address it will not forward your
message.
J
Julian
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:34:32 -0000, "Julian" <jul...@negearth.co.uk>
> address
> that I used to register. Other valid e-mail addresses aren't accepted.
> I'll unsubscribe from the newsgroup.
Just use your legit address it will appear on gmane anyway.
It is possible to hide email addresses as I have done with CIBC so no
worrying about harvesting.
Gmane is NOT connected to Usenet so no worries from that score.
Julian
Pete Stockdale
"Julian" <jul...@negearth.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Gmane is NOT connected to Usenet so no worries from that score.
>
> Julian
I do not quite follow this!
(generally having a bad day!)
Ukrecww is a usenet group.
It is available to people through, as well as other providers, news
btopenworld and news gmane
Surely therefore that creates a connection between gmane and Usenet - umm ?
Regards
Pete(Off Sick)
www.thecanalshop.com
Pete Stockdale
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
> If it was it would be remarkably like the list that was connected to urw
> 10
> years ago that caused such a split in the waterways community.
>
>>
I was suggesting that it was a news provider - not a news group.
Call it a news server if you like as my news list does.
Regards
Pete
Julian
news:fIidnRHkSp6BE1ja...@bt.com...
> I was suggesting that it was a news provider - not a news group.
> Call it a news server if you like as my news list does.
To be strictly correct its a mailing list archive that has NNTP access as
well as a web access quite a neat solution. I was the first to find it for
CIBC and since then several other waterways related groups have moved there.
If you haven't already, have a look at the web interface here:
http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.recreation
Julian
Brian from sunny Suffolk
Pete Stockdale
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:21:46 -0000, "Pete Stockdale"
> <peter....@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:hb0bs3pprmd65acbk...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:25:12 -0000, "Pete Stockdale"
>>> <peter....@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Julian" <jul...@negearth.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:fq3mlp$cc8$1$8302...@news.demon.co.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gmane is NOT connected to Usenet so no worries from that score.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not quite follow this!
>>>>(generally having a bad day!)
>>>>
>>>>Ukrecww is a usenet group.
>>>>It is available to people through, as well as other providers, news
>>>>btopenworld and news gmane
>>>>Surely therefore that creates a connection between gmane and Usenet -
>>>>umm
>>>>?
>>>
>>> Gmane is not a newsgroup connected to Usenet.
>>> If it was it would be remarkably like the list that was connected to urw
>>> 10
>>> years ago that caused such a split in the waterways community.
>>>
>>>>
>> I was suggesting that it was a news provider - not a news group.
>>Call it a news server if you like as my news list does.
>
> a bad
> day. I didn't argue. You then said "Surely therefore that creates a
> connection
> between gmane and Usenet - umm" The answer is still the same.
Thanks for not arguing!
I will not ask you to give detail about the split in the waterways
community.
Pity I was not around - I could have perhaps helped to mend it.
I was certainly not aware of it in the off groups world.
Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
David Long
<peter....@btopenworld.com> writes
>I will not ask you to give detail about the split in the waterways
>community.
>Pity I was not around - I could have perhaps helped to mend it.
>I was certainly not aware of it in the off groups world.
>
The split was ideological, not technical. There was no fix.
--
David Long
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Pete Stockdale
From: "David Long" <Da...@n0ne.c0m>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.waterways
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: gmane.recreation.broadsboating
> In message <H_mdnQo0AJD5Vlja...@bt.com>, Pete Stockdale
> <peter....@btopenworld.com> writes
>>I will not ask you to give detail about the split in the waterways
>>community.
>>Pity I was not around - I could have perhaps helped to mend it.
>>I was certainly not aware of it in the off groups world.
>>
>
> The split was ideological, not technical. There was no fix.
Ideologies my speciality ! I am a bit green on technicalities.
Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
Greg Chapman
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
> Yes that's the problem, it will only accept messages with the e-mail
> address
> that I used to register. Other valid e-mail addresses aren't accepted.
> I'll unsubscribe from the newsgroup.
Oh shucks! I'd hate to lose you!
I am aware of one problem that I haven't got an answer to yet. It doesn't
behave the same way as gmane.recreation.canals. You get an HTML attachment
and a mess of Yahoo footers.
The control panel for the group doesn't show the same options. If there are
any gmane experts out there to tell me how to get it to behave in the same
way, I'd be delighted!
Greg
Greg Chapman
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> I'll unsubscribe from the newsgroup.
>>
>>Oh shucks! I'd hate to lose you!
>
> I didn't say from the yahoogroup. :o)
That's all right then! (I do see that you are there!)
>>I am aware of one problem that I haven't got an answer to yet. It doesn't
>>behave the same way as gmane.recreation.canals. You get an HTML
>>attachment
>>and a mess of Yahoo footers.
That doesn't seem to be entirely true, as the first post I've seen known to
come through from gmane, has things as I would want - plain text and no
adverts.
> As the moderator have you tried setting everybody to the simple good old
> fashioned footer?
YahooGroups members need to tweak their own settings to get that. It comes
with the "Traditional" mail format. Currently, there's one subscriber other
than you who has set "NoMail" and is therefore either relying on the web
interface or their news reader to access the group.
As moderator, I have set the mail list side to disallow attachments. That
will cause any HTML to be stripped from messages as they hit the YahooGroup
servers. But it doesn't prevent those who accept the "Fully Featured"
setting getting their switched back to HTML - so they pick up all the
adverts as well! :-(
I'm still following up through gmane.discuss how I might control the format
of mail passing through the gmane servers. Strangely, if post through gmane
it seems to come out as I would like it!
Greg
Julian
"Greg Chapman" <gr...@waterwaysguides.plus.com> wrote in message
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>
> YahooGroups members need to tweak their own settings to get that. It comes
> with the "Traditional" mail format. Currently, there's one subscriber
> other than you who has set "NoMail" and is therefore either relying on the
> web interface or their news reader to access the group.
>
> As moderator, I have set the mail list side to disallow attachments. That
> will cause any HTML to be stripped from messages as they hit the
> YahooGroup servers. But it doesn't prevent those who accept the "Fully
> Featured" setting getting their switched back to HTML - so they pick up
> all the adverts as well! :-(
>
> I'm still following up through gmane.discuss how I might control the
> format of mail passing through the gmane servers. Strangely, if post
> through gmane it seems to come out as I would like it!
>
I have not controlled any of the news on Cutweb gmane AFAIK it only does
plain text. I just set all users to traditional on Yahoo every so often.
Julian
Greg Chapman
"Julian" <jul...@negearth.co.uk> wrote in message news:fq6on8$rdr$1>
> I have not controlled any of the news on Cutweb gmane AFAIK it only does
> plain text. I just set all users to traditional on Yahoo every so often.
I have now realised that I needed to set the gmane subscription to
"traditional". This I have now done. and mail/news is flowing in the
typical Yahoo "traditional" way, with a set of links under each message
along these lines:
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<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/broadsboating/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/broadsboating/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:broadsboat...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:broadsboating...@yahoogroups.com
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
broadsboatin...@yahoogroups.com
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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At the gmane site I note that the group edit screen for
gmane.recreation.canals shows an option:
Trailer ^Yahoo! Groups Links$
This option is missing on gmane.recreation.broadsboating. I looked for
further YahooGroups and the first I found
(gmane.sports.autoracing.f1-racing) also did not have this option and also
showed the kind of trailing guff I show above on every post.
Accordingly, I have put in a request to gmane to get my group the same
options that "canals" has.
I reckon that should sort it!
Greg