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The Crow

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Jun 29, 2005, 8:40:48 AM6/29/05
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Hi,
What's the general direction of opinion on boot protection sprays? I forgot
to order any when I got my new Brashers online. My girlfriend has some
stuff called Punch Protector (or something), which she got from a shoe shop
when buying some newbuck boots. It says it protects against rain/stains
etc. Do you think it is strictly necessary to buy a specific walking boot
spray, like Brasher's own, or will this kind of high street stuff do the
trick? I suppose that, as a result of the GTX lining, it might be necessary
to get something more specialised. What do you think? Thanks.


nickl

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Jun 29, 2005, 10:46:43 AM6/29/05
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Hi

Are they a leather boot of fabric?

If fabric and they have a goretex lining I wouldn't bother - I have
Salomon boots and do nothing at all to them and they last about 2-4
years with heavy use.

If leather - buy some proprietory boot wax (Grangers or similar) and
treat them perhaps twic a year max. If you apply the wax more than
sparingly the stitching will be ruined as well.

Prseume you arn'e worried about stains and marks on your boots - a few
hikes and they will be scuffed and grubby whatever you do - anyone with
shiny boots in the hills looks a bit sad anyway!

Cheers

Nick


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Richard Layton

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Jun 29, 2005, 4:17:21 PM6/29/05
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Hi

We tend to recomend Nikwax products in our shop. They work. If they are
Gore-tex lined just keep em clean and make sure you get any small stones out
ASAP or they will ruin the membrane. If leather, polish with normal shoe
polish until they become really scuffed up then start using a wax of some
description and use it spareingly or it'll damage the stitching.

Rich
"Daytona" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Search the archive for Nikwax and Grangers and have a look at the
> websites.
>
> Daytona


Andrew Priest

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Jun 29, 2005, 7:36:39 PM6/29/05
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:40:48 +0100, "The Crow"
<The...@nobodyspimp.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>What's the general direction of opinion on boot protection sprays?

Hi

I have Scarpa leather boots and have been treating them after every
pack-carry) (around once a month) for the past three years with Nikwax
Conditioner for Leather. Found it very good for maintaining the
leather and waterproofing the boot.

Found that even on walks where there was a lot of wading the leather
did not take up water.

Very happy with the product.

Regards
Andrew

Daytona

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Jun 29, 2005, 3:06:31 PM6/29/05
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The Crow

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Jun 30, 2005, 4:45:56 AM6/30/05
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"nickl" <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com> wrote in message
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They are newbuck boots with a goretex lining, but I was lead to believe that
if I didn't reat them with a protector spray, they wouldn't be waterproofed.
Is this a ploy?


GSV Three Minds in a Can

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Jun 30, 2005, 9:21:49 AM6/30/05
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Bitstring <42c3b113$0$2049$ed2e...@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, from
the wonderful person The Crow <The...@nobodyspimp.com> said

>
>"nickl" <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com> wrote in message
>news:nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com...
>>
>> The Crow Wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> What's the general direction of opinion on boot protection sprays? I
>>> forgot
>>> to order any when I got my new Brashers online. My girlfriend has
>>> some
<snip>

>They are newbuck boots with a goretex lining, but I was lead to believe that
>if I didn't reat them with a protector spray, they wouldn't be waterproofed.
>Is this a ploy?

The Goretex will keep them waterproof regardless, unless/until you
puncture it. However if these are Brasher FMB1s or FMB2s I had mine fall
to bits (crack at the flex point) after <6 months using Grangers (or was
it Graingers?) spray .. the Nubuck dried out to 'hard'. Of course I did
wash the mud off after most trips, which probably takes the natural oils
with it.

The replacements (which are FMB1s, and much less comfy) are getting
NikWaxed (the real stuff, not the aqueous cr&p) every 100Km or so ...
spoils the look of the Nubuck but keeps them supple, and waterproof (the
leather that is - without it the leather gets sopping wet, and heavy,
but the Goretex keeps the inside dry).

In future though I shall avoid Nubuck. Really stupid idea for boots IMO.

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nickl

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Jun 30, 2005, 5:35:33 PM6/30/05
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The Crow Wrote:
> "nickl" nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com wrote in message
> news:nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com...-
>
> The Crow Wrote:-

> Hi,
> What's the general direction of opinion on boot protection sprays? I
> forgot
> to order any when I got my new Brashers online. My girlfriend has
> some
> stuff called Punch Protector (or something), which she got from a
> shoe
> shop
> when buying some newbuck boots. It says it protects against
> rain/stains
> etc. Do you think it is strictly necessary to buy a specific walking
> boot
> spray, like Brasher's own, or will this kind of high street stuff do
> the
> trick? I suppose that, as a result of the GTX lining, it might be
> necessary
> to get something more specialised. What do you think? Thanks.-

>
> Hi
>
> Are they a leather boot of fabric?
>
> If fabric and they have a goretex lining I wouldn't bother - I have
> Salomon boots and do nothing at all to them and they last about 2-4
> years with heavy use.
>
> If leather - buy some proprietory boot wax (Grangers or similar) and
> treat them perhaps twic a year max. If you apply the wax more than
> sparingly the stitching will be ruined as well.
>
> Prseume you arn'e worried about stains and marks on your boots - a
> few
> hikes and they will be scuffed and grubby whatever you do - anyone
> with
> shiny boots in the hills looks a bit sad anyway!
>
> Cheers
>
> Nick
>
>
> --
> nickl-

>
> They are newbuck boots with a goretex lining, but I was lead to believe
> that
> if I didn't reat them with a protector spray, they wouldn't be
> waterproofed.
> Is this a ploy?

Hi

Nubuck gets wet and soggy. However the water will not permeate the GTX
layer.

Just treat the Nubuck with a specialist product very occasionally (I
think Grangers have a website).

Also keep the insides of your boots grit free as the GTX can get
punctured - this is a very small issue as your feet will be wet from
sweat anyway!

I wouldn't get too hung up on the boot care - just get using them.
Much is written re: this subject but in my experience they pretty much
take care of themselves - many will disagree with me but my wife has
had a pair of leather Berghaus boots for several years and has never
done anything to them. Look scuffed, look dry but no cracks at all!

Cheers

Nick

Cheers

Nick


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GSV Three Minds in a Can

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Jul 1, 2005, 3:36:52 PM7/1/05
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Bitstring <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com>, from the wonderful
person nickl <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com> said

<big overdue snip>

>Also keep the insides of your boots grit free as the GTX can get
>punctured

Can also wear the linings out, which I've done in as little as 300 miles
.. just from friction, as far as I know no foreign objects bigger than
the usual damn grass seeds.

>
>I wouldn't get too hung up on the boot care - just get using them.
>Much is written re: this subject but in my experience they pretty much
>take care of themselves - many will disagree with me but my wife has
>had a pair of leather Berghaus boots for several years and has never
>done anything to them. Look scuffed, look dry but no cracks at all!

But how many miles (or Km) have they done, under what sort of
conditions? I had a pair of Daisy Roots must have lasted 20 years, as
long as I never went anywhere in them (especially not in the wet).

nickl

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Jul 1, 2005, 5:02:48 PM7/1/05
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GSV Three Minds in a Can Wrote:
> Bitstring nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com, from the wonderful

> person nickl nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com said
>
> big overdue snip
> -

> Also keep the insides of your boots grit free as the GTX can get
> punctured-

>
> Can also wear the linings out, which I've done in as little as 300
> miles
> ... just from friction, as far as I know no foreign objects bigger

> than
> the usual damn grass seeds.
> -

>
> I wouldn't get too hung up on the boot care - just get using them.
> Much is written this subject but in my experience they pretty much

> take care of themselves - many will disagree with me but my wife has
> had a pair of leather Berghaus boots for several years and has never
> done anything to them. Look scuffed, look dry but no cracks at all!-

>
> But how many miles (or Km) have they done, under what sort of
> conditions? I had a pair of Daisy Roots must have lasted 20 years, as
> long as I never went anywhere in them (especially not in the wet).
>
> --
> GSV Three Minds in a Can
> Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

Hi

2-300 miles/year - mainly on the high fells / 30-40% scrambling
terrain.

They are really as tough as old boots!

Cheers

Nick


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nickl

GSV Three Minds in a Can

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Jul 2, 2005, 5:45:45 AM7/2/05
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Bitstring <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com>, from the wonderful
person nickl <nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com> said

>>> I wouldn't get too hung up on the boot care - just get using them.
>>> Much is written this subject but in my experience they pretty much
>>> take care of themselves - many will disagree with me but my wife has
>>> had a pair of leather Berghaus boots for several years and has never
>>> done anything to them. Look scuffed, look dry but no cracks at all!-
>>
>> But how many miles (or Km) have they done, under what sort of
>> conditions? I had a pair of Daisy Roots must have lasted 20 years, as
>> long as I never went anywhere in them (especially not in the wet).
>>
>Hi
>
>2-300 miles/year - mainly on the high fells / 30-40% scrambling
>terrain.
>
>They are really as tough as old boots!
>
That's a pretty amazing recommendation for Berhaus then (although I
think my feet are maybe too wide) ...

nickl

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Jul 2, 2005, 1:17:11 PM7/2/05
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GSV Three Minds in a Can Wrote:
> Bitstring nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com, from the wonderful
> person nickl nickl....@news.fitnessbanter.com said---

> I wouldn't get too hung up on the boot care - just get using them.
> Much is written this subject but in my experience they pretty much
> take care of themselves - many will disagree with me but my wife has
> had a pair of leather Berghaus boots for several years and has never
> done anything to them. Look scuffed, look dry but no cracks at
> all!--

>
> But how many miles (or Km) have they done, under what sort of
> conditions? I had a pair of Daisy Roots must have lasted 20 years, as
> long as I never went anywhere in them (especially not in the wet).
> -

> Hi
>
> 2-300 miles/year - mainly on the high fells / 30-40% scrambling
> terrain.
>
> They are really as tough as old boots!
> -

> That's a pretty amazing recommendation for Berhaus then (although I
> think my feet are maybe too wide) ...
>
> --
> GSV Three Minds in a Can
> Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

More of an amazing recommendation for my wifes legs really - they too
still look pretty good!

Cheers

Nick


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Nick Pedley

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Jul 3, 2005, 5:20:23 PM7/3/05
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"Richard Layton" <thors...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> We tend to recomend Nikwax products in our shop. They work. If they are
> Gore-tex lined just keep em clean and make sure you get any small stones
out
> ASAP or they will ruin the membrane. If leather, polish with normal shoe
> polish until they become really scuffed up then start using a wax of some
> description and use it spareingly or it'll damage the stitching.
>
Any thoughts on the Brasher Boot spray as opposed to Nikwax, apart from the
price difference?
Wondering what to use on my Brasher Tourlites.

Nick


Andy Howell

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Jul 4, 2005, 5:05:59 PM7/4/05
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On 3/7/05 22:20, in article da9kql$j41$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk, "Nick Pedley"
<nichola...@npedley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Any thoughts on the Brasher Boot spray as opposed to Nikwax, apart from the
> price difference?
> Wondering what to use on my Brasher Tourlites.

I've tried the Brasher spray. It is nowhere as good as the Nikwax
stick-type protector.

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