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Steve Webb

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May 30, 2001, 8:42:22 AM5/30/01
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North Face Down Sleeping bag - 3/4 season not sure of model - 30.00

Mountain Equipment Sleeping bag - 2/3 season lightline 30.00

petzel ecrin helemt 8.00

lowe alpine rucsac - 70/80 litre 25.00

email if interested


Dave Laird

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May 30, 2001, 9:11:03 AM5/30/01
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"Steve Webb" <endu...@websites79.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote...

> North Face Down Sleeping bag - 3/4 season not sure of model - 30.00

I'm not sure I'd be interested in buying a face down sleeping bag :)

Sorry, IGMC.
Dave
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99% of gargoyles look like Bob Todd


Andrew Laycock

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May 30, 2001, 11:23:49 AM5/30/01
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how old is the TNF sleeping bag?
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Roy Hill

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May 30, 2001, 4:31:58 PM5/30/01
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"Steve Webb" <endu...@websites79.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote in message
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> North Face Down Sleeping bag - 3/4 season not sure of model - 30.00
>
> Mountain Equipment Sleeping bag - 2/3 season lightline 30.00
>
> petzel ecrin helemt 8.00
>
> lowe alpine rucsac - 70/80 litre 25.00
>

Sold (to me)


Roy Hill

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May 30, 2001, 5:02:51 PM5/30/01
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"Roy Hill" <roy_...@fsmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, they say 'caveat emptor'....

The NF sleeping bag has certainly seen better days. But for 30 squid it'll
be OK as a 1.5 season. I may be able to 'massage' the down so that it lofts
again.

The rucksack looks like a predecessor of my fave sack, and at 25 it was
worth it. It'll get a fair bit of use.

The ME bag? Well, it was posted as a Lightline. In fact it was a Snowline.
All the down seems to be there. Its clean. Perfect 'fit'. I tried it. I had
just got the zip done up and the neck baffle closed and tightened - and the
sweating started. I think that was the quickest I've got out of bag. I'm a
happy bunny. Come on, winter!

100 quid for 2 bags (1 real bargain, 1 almost 'puppy-dog-sale'), rucksack, 4
books (including an NZ publication on risk assessment in outdoor
activities - isn't it the NZ's who 'invent' weird sports?) and a bootload of
Trail (issue 1 onward), OTE, Climber (and Hillwalker), High, TGO and an
assortment of American climbing/mountaineering mags. Plenty to read in the
long, dark evenings of winter (I ditched all mag subs some while back,
except High).

The sad thing is the guy says he used to be an outdoor instructor. He's now
concentrating on his 'business' - web design and hosting! And he says his
'partner' has had no influence on his decision. Martin, watch out. You may
be the next to advertise a mass 'gear' sale.

The world's gone mad. Totally mad...

Daniel Tuck

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May 30, 2001, 6:04:48 PM5/30/01
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> "Roy Hill" <roy_...@fsmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9f3lgt$mhh$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "Steve Webb" <endu...@websites79.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:9f2qpq$qma$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > North Face Down Sleeping bag - 3/4 season not sure of model - 30.00
> > >
> > > Mountain Equipment Sleeping bag - 2/3 season lightline 30.00

Is that the 10 quid one from the Cotswold offer?

Dan,


Steve Webb

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May 30, 2001, 6:10:55 PM5/30/01
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does any one want to buy the north face kit that i had???

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Dave Gerrie

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May 31, 2001, 1:22:19 PM5/31/01
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on a practical note - i've heard, but may be wrong, that a spell in
the tumble dryer can reloft a sleeping bag. Is this right, or am i way
wide of the mark again?

Dave

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<big snip> (no, not that one..)

Roy Hill

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May 31, 2001, 2:25:18 PM5/31/01
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"Dave Gerrie" <david....@dgerrie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> on a practical note - i've heard, but may be wrong, that a spell in
> the tumble dryer can reloft a sleeping bag. Is this right, or am i way
> wide of the mark again?

Now there's a thought. I feel a practical experiment coming up. Unless
anyone gives me a good reason not to...


Dave Gerrie

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May 31, 2001, 2:28:37 PM5/31/01
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like i said - i may be wrong, ot it might only apply to synthetics
(like mine) - the poster accepts no responsibility for damage!! ;-)

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Chris Street

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May 31, 2001, 2:51:08 PM5/31/01
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On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:25:18 +0100, "Roy Hill" <roy_...@fsmail.com>
wrote:

Good method. It works and I can vouch from experience.

Wash bag in prescribed amount of Nikwax Lofttech or similar product,
there's one called DownKlene - manufacturer unknown but also very
good. If it's a winter bag you will probably have to wash it at the
laundrette as it will be too big for a home washer.

DO NOT SPIN DRY!!! You will wreck the down. A quickie spin when the
washer drains is OK.

Drain as much as you can off into the bath. Be very careful not to
strain the bag, it get very very heavy when wet and you can tear the
bag, the down and the seams. I supported mine on a "ladder" clothes
horse laid on top of the bath.

Once stopped dripping, pack whole thing in a bin liner and go to the
laundrette. Don't bother with a home tumble dryer, as it isn't big
enough, and the heat builds up and scorches the bag (apparantly)

Feed it into the dryer on medium heat, feed it a lot of money and the
two secret ingredients. Two tennis balls. They jump around and loft
the down up very well. It's worth making a trip just to buy the balls,
they really do work wonders.

Takes about an hour - which can mean a *lot* of pennies sadly.


79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
The other 42% are made up later on.
In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.

Denzil Broadhurst

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Jun 1, 2001, 8:30:28 AM6/1/01
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"Chris Street" <chri...@mithrandir-DOT-demon.co-DOT-uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:25:18 +0100, "Roy Hill" <roy_...@fsmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Dave Gerrie" <david....@dgerrie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:9f5uqi$2g5$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> on a practical note - i've heard, but may be wrong, that a spell in
> >> the tumble dryer can reloft a sleeping bag. Is this right, or am i way
> >> wide of the mark again?
> >
> >Now there's a thought. I feel a practical experiment coming up. Unless
> >anyone gives me a good reason not to...
> >
> >
> >
>
> Good method. It works and I can vouch from experience.
>
> Wash bag in prescribed amount of Nikwax Lofttech or similar product,
> there's one called DownKlene - manufacturer unknown but also very
> good. If it's a winter bag you will probably have to wash it at the
> laundrette as it will be too big for a home washer.
>
> DO NOT SPIN DRY!!! You will wreck the down. A quickie spin when the
> washer drains is OK.
>
> Drain as much as you can off into the bath. Be very careful not to
> strain the bag, it get very very heavy when wet and you can tear the
> bag, the down and the seams. I supported mine on a "ladder" clothes
> horse laid on top of the bath.
>
> Once stopped dripping, pack whole thing in a bin liner and go to the
> laundrette. Don't bother with a home tumble dryer, as it isn't big
> enough, and the heat builds up and scorches the bag (apparantly)

Washed my 4/5 season bag twice over the last 6 years - used my home
tumble drier each time successfully, but I did have it on low heat and
kept a careful eye on it - shuffling it around/taking it out-putting it back
in
a different way round etc. Overall the system as Chris defines worked
very well.

Denzil


Peter Clinch

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Jun 1, 2001, 9:15:21 AM6/1/01
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Denzil Broadhurst wrote:

> a different way round etc. Overall the system as Chris defines worked
> very well.

Yup. Similar one outlined at
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/downcare.htm

But IME if you have the cash spare it's far better to just send it to
Franklins (address at the above site, or in any Rab down gear) and have
them do all the work and worrying. They do a far, far, far better job
than I've ever managed myself, and working on the principal that time is
money and I have the money, I'd much rather keep the time and spend the
money than faff about cleaning sleeping bags and jackets. Doing it
properly is *very* tedious and IMHO easily the biggest downside of
down. Getting flat-looking down stuff a good wash and dry will
rejuvinate it incredibly well unless it's been perticularly savagely
treated: most people seem quite surprised at the difference it makes.

Pete.
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Peter Clinch University of Dundee
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Trevor Dennis

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Jun 1, 2001, 1:07:46 PM6/1/01
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Roy Hill writes

>Now there's a thought. I feel a practical experiment coming up. Unless
>anyone gives me a good reason not to...

Not too hot.

<ob off topic>

A work mate couldn't find any plain envelopes
today, so he put a windowed one through the
laser printer. Goodness only knows why he wanted
to print *on* the envelope instead of using the
window.

Of course the hot roller in the printer melted
the plastic window and shagged the roller. :(

Bloody contractors.

--
Trevor Dennis

Chris Street

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Jun 1, 2001, 2:05:34 PM6/1/01
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Ever tried non laser labels in a laser? The sticky glue melts on the
fuser and you end up with glue stuck all over the corona wires,
rollers etc. £3.5k of wrecked printer.

This wasn't a contracter though!

Steve Webb

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Jun 1, 2001, 5:02:08 PM6/1/01
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in a nut shell DOO!!!

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Rodders

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Jun 1, 2001, 5:30:15 PM6/1/01
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On a recent vist to Derbyshire, I was enticed into buying a Wild
country 'Tornado' tent for the princely sum of Ł99 from a tent show.
The tent is not the most recent model which I understand sells for
around Ł250, but this didn't really bother me as it still seems like a
real bargain.

I would be interested to read the views of people who have used one of
these tents, particularly in terms of what they can stand up to, and
also what the classification of "4 season backpacking" tent really
means - i.e is this suitable for summer mountain use, and might it
take snow loading in winter?

views / ideas much appreciated.

Rodders.

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