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Meindl Borneos or Scarpa Rangers, goretex makes feet hot?

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Shug

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Jan 19, 2008, 9:43:20 AM1/19/08
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Hi

I'm looking for new boots and I'm nearly settled on either the Borneos
or Rangers.

The thing is, I see that they come in both goretex versions (Burma and
GTX).

What's the general consensus on having a gortex liner inside the
boot? In both cases it's an extra tenner, which doesn't really bother
me.

What concerns me is more that there's been quite a few posts saying
that the goretex lined boots cause more overheating and sweating.
What would be the supposed advantage in a goretex liner if the outside
of the boot is waterproof to start with?

Any help much appreciated

Shug

Nigel Cliffe

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Jan 19, 2008, 11:16:16 AM1/19/08
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No leather boot of moderate weight is truely waterproof, though many are
pretty resistant to water for quite prolonged submersion. In theory, the
Goretex gives a layer of waterproofing.

In practise it has a mixed press, not least because the liners can develop
cracks/holes, and then leak badly, and some people find them excessively
sweaty.


Personally I got on very badly with the only pair of goretex lined boots I
tried (puffy feet, etc). I avoid leather + goretex combinations for walking
boots.

I might try a fabric boot with lining, though am more taken with the idea of
fabric boot + waterproof sock; the sock can be replaced when it leaks, can
be taken off when its the wrong combination, etc.


- Nigel


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Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/


Doug Hughes

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Jan 19, 2008, 12:51:29 PM1/19/08
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I find Gore-Tex boots (also Meindl Borneos) a bit sweaty, but not
excessively so, and I've worn them in some fairly hot places (Alps,
Morocco). They also developed a small leak after about a year. Personally, I
wouldn't bother with a Gore-Tex lining again, but my wife has a pair of
Gore-Tex lined Brashers which she absolutely loves, and she always has
bone-dry feet at the end of the day.

So - you pays your money...


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Shug

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Jan 20, 2008, 6:31:55 AM1/20/08
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On 19 Jan, 14:43, Shug <enoesqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for new boots and I'm nearly settled on either the Borneos
> or Rangers.
>
> The thing is, I see that they come in bothgoretexversions (Burma and

> GTX).
>
> What's the general consensus on having a gortex liner inside the
> boot?  In both cases it's an extra tenner, which doesn't really bother
> me.
>
> What concerns me is more that there's been quite a few posts saying
> that thegoretexlined boots cause more overheating and sweating.
> What would be the supposed advantage in agoretexliner if the outside

> of the boot is waterproof to start with?
>
> Any help much appreciated
>
> Shug

Thanks for both your responses, guys.

I've looked more into Meindl's website and they have an entry in their
FAQ addressing the overheating problem. They claim that you can
overcome this by wearing Goretex socks as well?

Is this what your wife does, Doug?

Nigel, you're confirming what a number of other posts have said -
puffy feet - did you have Goretex socks?

Like I said, I don't mind spending the extra tenner, but I don't want
to pay that to get a problem to cope with!

Cheers

Shug

dino

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Jan 20, 2008, 6:49:12 AM1/20/08
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I have a pair of Borneos. I've worn them in a lot of wet weather and
I've never had wet feet. I'm also not the greatest at waxing them so
they must be good ;)

I haven't experienced the over heating yo describe but then maybe I just
haven't noticed it! Anyway I'd rather have feet too hot than too cold :)

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walkhighlands

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Jan 20, 2008, 9:35:10 AM1/20/08
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On 20 Jan, 13:49, AJH <n...@sylva.icuklive.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:16:16 -0000, "Nigel Cliffe" <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >though am more taken with the idea of
> >fabric boot + waterproof sock;
>
> Do we have any recommendations for waterproof socks? Sounds
> interesting and I have some Milletts vouchers to spend.
>
> AJH

My experience is that waterproof socks don't stay waterproof that
long, are not particularly comfortable, are hot but worst of all are
almost impossible to dry - even more so than goretex lined boots.

Paul Webster
http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/

Richard Spencer

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Jan 20, 2008, 9:58:06 AM1/20/08
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On the other hand, I'd say that Sealskinz are lagi satu unbeatable for
day two! You (reluctantly) unzip the bag and extract yourself, and then
look sadly at a pair of sodden, cold boots! No problem if you can put a
pair of sealskinz on your feet, and then put covered feet into boots!
Warm and dry feet. A new and even more exciting day !

How my wife washes dries them I've never liked to ask... ...

Richard

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Nigel Cliffe

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Jan 20, 2008, 11:21:13 AM1/20/08
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Shug wrote:
> On 19 Jan, 14:43, Shug <enoesqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm looking for new boots and I'm nearly settled on either the
>> Borneos or Rangers.

>> What's the general consensus on having a gortex liner inside the


>> boot? In both cases it's an extra tenner, which doesn't really bother
>> me.

> I've looked more into Meindl's website and they have an entry in their


> FAQ addressing the overheating problem. They claim that you can
> overcome this by wearing Goretex socks as well?
>

> Nigel, you're confirming what a number of other posts have said -
> puffy feet - did you have Goretex socks?

The puffy feet problem is one which affects some people and not others.

No I don't own Goretex socks.

I can see that certain materials will wick sweat/damp out of boots through
sock material to some extent. That's likely to be either a wool or possibly
a polypropylene yarn. But its quite a long way from toes to top of boot
above the ankle to wick water/damp.

I am unconvinced that I need Goretex boots with Goretex socks (or Goretex
underpants), though I am quite happy that Goretex (in various forms) is a
decent material for waterproof coats and trousers.

Doug Hughes

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Jan 21, 2008, 12:10:48 PM1/21/08
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No - she doesn't wear Gore-Tex socks. She's just a lady - they don't sweat!

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Shug

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Jan 25, 2008, 8:06:02 AM1/25/08
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On 19 Jan, 14:43, Shug <enoesqu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks all for your input.

In the end, I've gone for the Borneos, so we'll see whether or not
sweating becomes a problem.

Cheers

Shug

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