Where to go to see Limestone Pavements
pkb...@my-dejanews.com
scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
stalagtites.
It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it may
have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
TIA, Phil B
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andrew j mcevoy
be one of the better examples.
There are plenty of rewarding walks in and around the area - Malham has its
own TIC.
Don't try visiting on a Bank Holiday unless you're there early.
The area is surrounded by some of the best pubs in the country (IMHO).
Andrew
Michael Farthing
> As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
> scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
> stalagtites.
>
> It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>
> The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
> feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it may
> have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
Malham Cove (W Yorks) about a mile (at a guess) from Malham village. Take
the A65 North West out of Skipton and turn right at Coniston Cold. You can't
miss it - follow the crowds of kids on Geography field trips :-)
The Cove itself is a spectacular inland cliff 300 feet high. The pavement
is at the top of this, but don't worry, you don't have to rock climb it -
there's a straightforward walker's path to the top.
However, don't go for the day. Have a long weekend or more.
You can also visit nearby Ingleton where there are lots of show caves
including one (I believe) by boat. There are some reputedly splendid
waterfalls here too but I've never seen them cos the landowner makes a
fortune out of charging for access and I'm too mean. Also visit Gordale
Scar (next valley along to the East from Malham). Before people used to
climb Scafell, Ben Nevis and Snowdon in a day there used to be another three
peaks climb consisting of Ingleborough, Pen-y-Ghent and Whernside (all in
this locality). So if you want to go up a hill or three that's another
activity (but don't try to do them all in a day: daft activity). If you
just want one pick Ingleborough. It's littered with pot holes, so keep your
eyes open. One of them, Gaping Gill, you can be lowered to the bottom of
and you find yourself in an enormous underground cavern (haven't done it
myself but I believe they do pull you out again).
WARNING
-------
THIS LOCATION CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH
I was subjected to a Geography Field Trip here in 1967 and the effects
of it are with me to this day. I have a permanently disabling disease
called Mountain Walking Syndrome. No known cure. Public thank you
here to Mr Piggott and Mr Harvey. (I even learnt a bit of Geog that week).
--
Michael Farthing
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Jim Ryder
Michael Farthing wrote in message <904042...@cyclades.demon.co.uk>...
>
>You can also visit nearby Ingleton where there are lots of show caves
>including one (I believe) by boat. There are some reputedly splendid
>waterfalls here too but I've never seen them cos the landowner makes a
>fortune out of charging for access and I'm too mean.
Your not thinking of the caves in the peak D are you?
Don't know of boat trips in Ingleton caves area. There is a boat down one of
the pots in the area - but this is a little more than an outing!
Jim Ryder
Inn (From Ingleton, take the road upto Ribblehad viaduct. The pub is the one
a couple of miles before Ribblehead - its a famouse stop off for those doing
the Tree Peaks and Centurion walks.)
Anyway, from the pub go over and to the right, climbing up Ingleborough.
Excellenct L'stone p'mnts in the area.
Gordon Harris
writes
>As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
>scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
>stalagtites.
>
>It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>
>The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
>feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it may
>have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
Limestone pavements abound in the Yorkshire Dales. There's a beauty on
top of Malham Cove, with a spectacular cliff thrown in if you can climb
the 300 or so steps, but keep the kids on a tight rein!
Reached by a 15 minute walk from Malham by the world and his dog. (NNE)
There are also plenty in the area around Ingleton, with a pleasant
family walk known as the waterfall walk, with the same proviso about
keeping an eye on the kids. The main limstone areas are NNW, NNE and
ENE from Ingleton.
From Clapham the Norber Erratics can be reached within a couple of miles
to the East. These are hard boulders displaced from the valley floors
(by glacial action?) standing on plinths of softer limestone. The
surrounding area of limestone has been eroded over the years, whilst the
boulders have protected the plinths on which they stand. The limestone
erodes at about 1" per 10,000 years (allegedly).
There are also large pavements and scars a couple of miles West of
Horton, rather less accessible but a 5 mile circuit from Horton, or a 9
mile from Clapham would get you to one of the finest limestone views I
know, between Thieves Moss and Moughton, overlooking acres of pavement.
These areas are all included on the 1:25,000 Leisure Series Map No 2.
No doubt Charlie will mention the Derbyshire White Peak area, but I
don't think it competes with the Dales for pavements. :-)
I can give more details of the walks if you wish to e-mail.
--
Gordon
Gordon Harris
<m...@cyclades.demon.co.uk> writes
> If you
>just want one pick Ingleborough. It's littered with pot holes, so keep your
>eyes open. One of them, Gaping Gill, you can be lowered to the bottom of
>and you find yourself in an enormous underground cavern (haven't done it
>myself but I believe they do pull you out again).
>
and I *think* it's August Bank Holiday.
--
Gordon
Fraser Macfarlane
Ingleton. You can get a conducted tour around the caves - lots of
stalagtites etc on view
Fraser
pkb...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6ru1en$fk2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
>scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
>stalagtites.
>
>It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>
>The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
>feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it
may
>have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
>TIA, Phil B
>
Peter Robins
>
>Malham Cove (W Yorks) about a mile (at a guess) from Malham village. Take
>the A65 North West out of Skipton
Take the Pennine Way - there's a lot less traffic.
For somewhere more exotic, try the Burren in Co Clare.
Roger Chapman
from m...@cyclades.demon.co.uk (Michael Farthing) contains these words:
> Before people used to climb Scafell, Ben Nevis and Snowdon in a day
> there used to be another three peaks climb consisting of Ingleborough,
> Pen-y-Ghent and Whernside (all in this locality). So if you want to go
> up a hill or three that's another activity (but don't try to do them all
> in a day: daft activity).
But if you only climb one what do to do with the rest of your day?
As regular readers know I am dead set against environmental disasters
such as the National Three Peaks (and indeed charity walks in
general) but as challenge walks go The Yorkshire Three Peaks is a
pleasant enough undertaking with very little road walking. If there
is a downside (apart from the crowds in Summer which you would meet
doing one peak or three) it is that to the active walker it not much
of a challenge. IIRC before the direct route up Whernside was closed
it was only 22 miles and 4800 feet of ascent.
Roger
Gordon Harris
<r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>The message <904042...@cyclades.demon.co.uk>
> from m...@cyclades.demon.co.uk (Michael Farthing) contains these words:
>
>> Before people used to climb Scafell, Ben Nevis and Snowdon in a day
>> there used to be another three peaks climb consisting of Ingleborough,
>> Pen-y-Ghent and Whernside (all in this locality). So if you want to go
>> up a hill or three that's another activity (but don't try to do them all
>> in a day: daft activity).
Extremely daft!
>
>But if you only climb one what do to do with the rest of your day?
>
Well if you've taken enough time over it to actually *see* something of
the surrounding area, Penyghent is my favourite, you will probably have
time for coffee in the cafe, then a leisurely drive home, dropping in at
the pub on the A65 with an extensive menu, for dinner, and arrive home
in Manchester relaxed, having completed the journey on quiet roads.
:-)
>As regular readers know I am dead set against environmental disasters
>such as the National Three Peaks (and indeed charity walks in
>general) but as challenge walks go The Yorkshire Three Peaks is a
>pleasant enough undertaking with very little road walking. If there
>is a downside (apart from the crowds in Summer which you would meet
>doing one peak or three) it is that to the active walker it not much
>of a challenge. IIRC before the direct route up Whernside was closed
>it was only 22 miles and 4800 feet of ascent.
>Roger
>
Eh? What? He only asked where he could take the kids to see limestone
pavements.
Why do we keep hearing about the 3 peaks challenge, it's nowt to do with
enjoying the countryside, more to do with spoiling it IMHO. :-(
--
Gordon
Gordon R Crawford
> pavements.
> Why do we keep hearing about the 3 peaks challenge, it's nowt to do with
> enjoying the countryside, more to do with spoiling it IMHO. :-(
Nothing wrong the Yorkshire one though.
Back to original posting, I seem to remember some limestone pavement on
Whernside, on the ridge down towards Ingleton.
G
Andrew Nichols
<Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> writes
>One of them, Gaping Gill, you can be lowered to the bottom of
>>and you find yourself in an enormous underground cavern (haven't done it
>>myself but I believe they do pull you out again).
>>
>I believe the Caving club concerned only do this on one Sunday per year,
>and I *think* it's August Bank Holiday.
Pothole Club and Craven P C respectively; usually for the full week, and
well worth the visit. Check on uk.rec.caving.
--
Andrew Nichols
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Chris Crocker
craw...@lineone.net> writes
>Back to original posting, I seem to remember some limestone pavement on
>Whernside, on the ridge down towards Ingleton.
>
>G
the way from Kettlewell to Grassington. Suggest either doing a circular
walk from Conistone or doing what we did, walk from Grassington to
Kettlewell and phone for a taxi back (from the Bluebell Inn, naturally).
Chris C
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John (K)
>Can anyone suggest where it may
>have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
Some alternatives to the honeypots of The Dales:
NE and ENE of Orton (North of Tebay) (GR NY 623083) - you could walk a
circuit from Sunbiggin Tarn.
Farleton Fell and Hutton Roof Crags between Burton in Kendal (near
Burton Services on the M6) and Kirkby Lonsdale
and most delightfully, a combination of limestone and woodland between
Hazelslack and Beetham (GR SD497795).
The first was encountered during my own version of AW's C2C - the
second and third during my circuit of Westmorland - see my web pages
below for more details of those routes.
Jeremy Double
>
> As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
> scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
> stalagtites.
As an alternative to Malham (which gets very busy), but also in the
Dales, try the Moughton and Sulber area west of Horton-in-Ribblesdale.
You could do an interesting walk from Horton via Sulber Nick, Sulber
Gate, Thieves Moss, Beggars Stile, along the edge of Moughton Scars to
the Crummack Dale to Horton footpath, and back along this footpath to
Horton. This wouldn't be a whole day, probably only two or three
hours. Of course, the map needed is OS Outdoor Leisure Map 2.
--
Jeremy Double <J.M.D...@bradford.ac.uk>
Michael Farthing
opo...@netcomuk.co.uk "John (K" writes:
> and most delightfully, a combination of limestone and woodland between
> Hazelslack and Beetham (GR SD497795).
I actually nearly suggested this one too, but as it's my home patch it
seemed a bit like blowing ones own trumpet! In fact this is just one
of a number of pavements in this area. This walk has quite a fun
(very easy) scramble up a narrow rock cleft, known locally as The Fairy
Steps.
Good old nearby Wharton Crag has one (494725 ish). Be careful of intrepid
2 year olds honing their climbing skills.
Gait Barrows is perhaps the best at 482774 ish. Note: this is inside
a nature reserve controlled by English Nature and you should get a pass.
(Like what I have of course, um err).
An interesting feature of these pavements is that they have a very
high and varied flora covering. Wharton Crag has the added interest
that in addition to the limestone there are also areas of acidic soil
so you get a very interesting mix of plants.
Martin Rand
<Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>There are also large pavements and scars a couple of miles West of
>Horton, rather less accessible but a 5 mile circuit from Horton, or a 9
>mile from Clapham would get you to one of the finest limestone views I
>know, between Thieves Moss and Moughton, overlooking acres of pavement.
>
Yes! Terrific area! You can do a good horseshoe circuit from Austwick
or Wharfe.
Smaller but rather beautiful formations that no-one's mentioned yet
are above Conistone and N of Grass Wood in Wharfedale.
Martin (off-duty)
Roger Chapman
from Gordon Harris <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> >> Before people used to climb Scafell, Ben Nevis and Snowdon in a day
> >> there used to be another three peaks climb consisting of
> >> Ingleborough, Pen-y-Ghent and Whernside (all in this locality). So
> >> if you want to go up a hill or three that's another activity (but
> >> don't try to do them all in a day: daft activity).
> Extremely daft!
snip
> >As regular readers know I am dead set against environmental disasters
> >such as the National Three Peaks (and indeed charity walks in
> >general) but as challenge walks go The Yorkshire Three Peaks is a
> >pleasant enough undertaking with very little road walking. If there
> >is a downside (apart from the crowds in Summer which you would meet
> >doing one peak or three) it is that to the active walker it not much
> >of a challenge. IIRC before the direct route up Whernside was closed
> >it was only 22 miles and 4800 feet of ascent.
> Eh? What? He only asked where he could take the kids to see limestone
> pavements.
> Why do we keep hearing about the 3 peaks challenge, it's nowt to do with
> enjoying the countryside, more to do with spoiling it IMHO. :-(
I was merely disagreeing with Michaels assertion that doing the
Yorkshire Three Peaks was a daft activity and refered to the National
Three peaks (as he did) only to distinguish between the two.
I note that you go even further and categorise the Yorkshire Three
Peaks as "Extremely daft!". If this modest little walk attracts such
disgust I shudder to think how you must feel about such walks as the
Lakes 3000s. Twice as long with much more road walking.
Roger
Andrew Ingham
which is just west of Horton -in - Ribblesdale. Its an short easy walk up
from the village (about 2 miles).
cheers
Andrew
pkb...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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>As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
>scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
>stalagtites.
>
>It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>
>The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
>feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it
may
>have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
karl grave
craw...@lineone.net> writes
>Back to original posting, I seem to remember some limestone pavement on
>Whernside, on the ridge down towards Ingleton.
Ingleborough.
Karl
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Gordon R Crawford
>
> In article <35E32CED...@lineone.net>, Gordon R Crawford <gordon.r.
> craw...@lineone.net> writes
> >Back to original posting, I seem to remember some limestone pavement on
> >Whernside, on the ridge down towards Ingleton.
> My favorite is by the path from the Hill Inn, Chapel-le-dale to
tourists that way. It certainly seemed like a good idea at closing time
in the Hill Inn (having ben there since 6). Only found out about the big
pot holes by the side of the path on the way down in the morning.
Have I just turned this into another stupidity in the hills thread?
G
Martin Richardson
>Malham Cove (W Yorks) about a mile (at a guess) from Malham village. Take
>miss it - follow the crowds of kids on Geography field trips :-)
>The Cove itself is a spectacular inland cliff 300 feet high. The pavement
>is at the top of this, but don't worry, you don't have to rock climb it -
>there's a straightforward walker's path to the top.
>
than my cellar stairs. The view is alright though. And yes it's a good
example of a limestone pavement.
Why not go to County Clare in Eire - less crowded?
Martin Richardson mar...@thequiff.demon.co.uk
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> There fine limestone pavement running on the east side of Wharfedale all
> the way from Kettlewell to Grassington. Suggest either doing a circular
> walk from Conistone or doing what we did, walk from Grassington to
> Kettlewell and phone for a taxi back (from the Bluebell Inn, naturally).
There are also buses, albeit fairly infrequent, along Wharfedale from
Grassington. Pride of the Dales runs the Monday to Saturday service,
and in the summer there is a Sunday service sponsored by the National
Park and operated by Keighley and District. You could get the details
from the National Park Information Office at the main car park in
Grassington.
--
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Suggestion: If you are going to use the bus leave the car at the *end*
of your walk and catch the bus to the beginning. The advantage is that
you aren't walking against the clock and when you finish you aren't
waiting around for the bus. Against: it's hard to shorten the walk.
There are also lots of old field systems up there, and old mine shafts
and the like. It would be great in late May when the little flowers are
out in the pastures.
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Lesley
>> scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
>> stalagtites.
>>
>> It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>>
>> The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around 5-6
>> feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it may
>> have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
>the A65 North West out of Skipton and turn right at Coniston Cold. You can't
>miss it - follow the crowds of kids on Geography field trips :-)
>The Cove itself is a spectacular inland cliff 300 feet high. The pavement
>is at the top of this, but don't worry, you don't have to rock climb it -
>there's a straightforward walker's path to the top.
Well worth a visit.
>
>However, don't go for the day. Have a long weekend or more.
>You can also visit nearby Ingleton where there are lots of show caves
>including one (I believe) by boat. There are some reputedly splendid
>waterfalls here too but I've never seen them cos the landowner makes a
>fortune out of charging for access and I'm too mean.
Shame, you missed a treat :-)
A quote from 'Wainwright In the Limestone Dales'.......
*If there is in the north of England a more beautiful walk than the tour
of the glens and waterfalls of Ingleton I have yet to discover it. In
the space of four enchanting miles there is a rapid succession of lovely
vistas of river scenery, of bewitching cascades and waterfalls in a
woodland setting of great charm*. ... (Having walked it twice, I agree).
In June 1994 the cost was 4 UK pounds for up to four adults, including
car parking, with NO time limit. The paths and view points to six
waterfalls are sympathetically constructed and well maintained and IMO
are not a detraction. Also, they provide some degree of safety for
families with young children.
'Batholomew - Walk The Dales' by Brian Spencer is a good general
introduction and guide to the area.
White Scar Caves (a cavern, said to be over 90 metres long) runs under
Ingleborough and is located one and a half miles from Ingleton on the
B6255 road to Hawes.
Ingleborough Cave and Gaping Gill can be reached from the wooded valley
of Clapdale. Both are very interesting.
>Also visit Gordale
>Scar (next valley along to the East from Malham). Before people used to
>climb Scafell, Ben Nevis and Snowdon in a day there used to be another three
>peaks climb consisting of Ingleborough, Pen-y-Ghent and Whernside (all in
>this locality). So if you want to go up a hill or three that's another
>activity (but don't try to do them all in a day: daft activity). If you
>just want one pick Ingleborough. It's littered with pot holes, so keep your
>eyes open. One of them, Gaping Gill, you can be lowered to the bottom of
>and you find yourself in an enormous underground cavern (haven't done it
>myself but I believe they do pull you out again).
>
>
>WARNING
>-------
>THIS LOCATION CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH
>
>I was subjected to a Geography Field Trip here in 1967 and the effects
>of it are with me to this day. I have a permanently disabling disease
>called Mountain Walking Syndrome. No known cure. Public thank you
>here to Mr Piggott and Mr Harvey. (I even learnt a bit of Geog that week).
>
--
Lesley...... a devoted fan of the Yorkshire Dales :-)
Stuart Baldwin
wrote:
>
>In June 1994 the cost was 4 UK pounds for up to four adults, including
>car parking, with NO time limit. The paths and view points to six
>waterfalls are sympathetically constructed and well maintained and IMO
>are not a detraction. Also, they provide some degree of safety for
>families with young children.
>
>'Batholomew - Walk The Dales' by Brian Spencer is a good general
>introduction and guide to the area.
>
>White Scar Caves (a cavern, said to be over 90 metres long) runs under
>Ingleborough and is located one and a half miles from Ingleton on the
>B6255 road to Hawes.
>
and down the other. White Scar Caves is a only a short diversion from the
approximate mid-point of the walk. I'll leave it to others to say whether
it's worth it as I have never visited the caves. The waterfalls are very
good, but I'd make sure the kids are under control when you do it despite
the path improvements and safety rails.
--
Stuart http://www.boxatrix.demon.co.uk
John (K)
>In article <35e3aea4...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>
> opo...@netcomuk.co.uk "John (K" writes:
>
>> and most delightfully, a combination of limestone and woodland between
>> Hazelslack and Beetham (GR SD497795).
>
>I actually nearly suggested this one too, but as it's my home patch it
>seemed a bit like blowing ones own trumpet! In fact this is just one
>of a number of pavements in this area. This walk has quite a fun
>(very easy) scramble up a narrow rock cleft, known locally as The Fairy
>Steps.
I remember having to drag my rucksac behind me in order to negotiate
the Fairy Steps when doing my circuit of Westmorland :)
I failed to mention another large area of limestone pavement
encountered during the final section of the Westmorland Walk. This
was between Kendal and Grange over Sands and included Whitbarrow Scar
(GR SD445865).
>Good old nearby Wharton Crag has one (494725 ish). Be careful of intrepid
>2 year olds honing their climbing skills.
My OS map spells Warton without an aitch - have they got it wrong?
(no a breach of netiquette intended - just the business of keeping OS
on their toes).
I apologise for my references to a non-existent URL 'below' in
previous postings. My thanks to Dave Dunford who reported this - I
have found that my update of Free Agent to Agent changed the default
signature to none at all! What an exhausting business it is, keeping
software up to date and fault-free.
John
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Paul Lydon
writes:
>
>> As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study
hillside
>> scars, limestone pavements and cave features such as stalagmites and
>> stalagtites.
>>
>> It was probably somewhere in the Peak District but where?
>>
>> The particular limestone pavement had quite tall "paving slabs", around
5-6
>> feet. I would love to take my kids to see it. Can anyone suggest where it
may
>> have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
>
>
>However, don't go for the day. Have a long weekend or more.
>You can also visit nearby Ingleton where there are lots of show caves
>including one (I believe) by boat.
You're probably thinking of Speedwell Cavern in Castleton, Derbyshire. The
show caves near Ingleton are White Scar with Ingleborough Cave near Clapham
on the route towards Gaping Ghyll woth a look.
> There are some reputedly splendid
>waterfalls here too but I've never seen them cos the landowner makes a
>fortune out of charging for access and I'm too mean
True if you enter at Ingleton - nothing to stop you gaining access further
along though....
>One of them, Gaping Gill, you can be lowered to the bottom of
>and you find yourself in an enormous underground cavern (haven't done it
>myself but I believe they do pull you out again).
This Bank Holiday weekend is one of the two occasions this is set up (the
other being Whitsun)
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Surfer
<stu...@boxatrix.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:01:22 +0100, Lesley <les...@cpres.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>In June 1994 the cost was 4 UK pounds for up to four adults, including
>>car parking, with NO time limit. The paths and view points to six
>>waterfalls are sympathetically constructed and well maintained and IMO
>>are not a detraction. Also, they provide some degree of safety for
>>families with young children.
>>
>>'Batholomew - Walk The Dales' by Brian Spencer is a good general
>>introduction and guide to the area.
>>
>>White Scar Caves (a cavern, said to be over 90 metres long) runs under
>>Ingleborough and is located one and a half miles from Ingleton on the
>>B6255 road to Hawes.
>>
>The Ingleton Waterfalls walk is in the form of a horseshoe, up one river
>and down the other. White Scar Caves is a only a short diversion from the
>approximate mid-point of the walk. I'll leave it to others to say whether
>it's worth it as I have never visited the caves.
diverted to White Scar caves and I thought it was one of the most
impressive show caves I've been in. There are tremendous flowstone
formations (and lots of them in one section), and the actual walking on
metal grids over the main streamway is exhilarating. The cave felt
alive! Many show caves are in abandoned passages and feel lifeless as a
result. We got left behind by our party as we were enjoying the
atmosphere too much.
I'd recomend it, plus the high-calorie snacks in the cafe, most highly.
> The waterfalls are very
>good, but I'd make sure the kids are under control when you do it despite
>the path improvements and safety rails.
Good advice.
Gareth Rees
> You can also visit nearby Ingleton where there are lots of show caves
> waterfalls here too but I've never seen them cos the landowner makes a
If you really are too mean to pay the landowner to visit the beautiful
Thornton Force and the other waterfalls near Ingleton, do the walk late
in the day after the ticket booth has shut.
--
Gareth Rees
Michael Farthing
opo...@netcomuk.co.uk "John (K" writes:
> >Good old nearby Wharton Crag has one (494725 ish). Be careful of intrepid
> >2 year olds honing their climbing skills.
>
> My OS map spells Warton without an aitch - have they got it wrong?
> (no a breach of netiquette intended - just the business of keeping OS
> on their toes).
The OS may rest on their heels - I'm on tiptoe. No h should be present.
pkb...@my-dejanews.com
I had been under some impression or other that the Geography Field Trip had
been in the Peak District but it could just as well have been in the Dales.
Funnily enough my wife and I were walking in that area, kids left with
grandparents, just a few weeks ago. It was a modest example of Limestone
Pavement that I saw whilst walking down from Pen y Ghent that led me to my
wondering.
Now that I look back at my walks book I see there are several examples and
will return to the area with kids in tow.
Once again Thanks
Phil B.
Gadget
>As a kid I remember being taken on a geography field trip to study hillside
>scars, limestone pavements
>Can anyone suggest where it may
>have been or alternative sites to see Limestone Pavements.
I you want to go a little farter alfield, try El Torcal in
Spain. An hour north of Malaga and and at 1600m up they are
reckoned to be some of the most impressive limestone
features on earth. Certainly seemed that way to me... these
things were BIG! [we are talking moonscapes on acid].
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Gadget [Bude, Cornwall, UK]
mailto:gad...@DELETE-THIS-BITbluewatch.demon.co.uk
http://www.bluewatch.demon.co.uk/index.htm
[a rather dull homepage, with a few new pics added, but hardly worth the effort]
jb...@clara.net
How about Malham Cove in the Yorkshire Dales National Park .Very easy
to get ot and it's aslo on the Pennine Way
Nadim (Sid) Siddiqui
there are not pavements as there are in Yorkshire. Ther are some pictures of
Thai limestone on the Megagrip website, URL below
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Chris Crocker
Siddiqui <adre...@megagrip.co.uk> writes
>The most impressive limestone scenery I have see is in Thailand, though
>there are not pavements as there are in Yorkshire. Ther are some pictures of
>Thai limestone on the Megagrip website, URL below
>
>Nadim (Sid) Siddiqui
If you are going to include overseas locations then the best limestone
pavement of them all must surely be the Burren in Co. Clare, Ireland.