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Nozza

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Aug 28, 2007, 10:16:19 AM8/28/07
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Tunnel gang targets cash machine

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6966764.stm

Noz
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malc

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Aug 28, 2007, 10:34:59 AM8/28/07
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On Aug 28, 3:16 pm, Nozza <nozza_again_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Tunnel gang targets cash machine
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6966764.stm
>
Brilliant. If I was going to rob a bank that's the sort of scheme I'd
try. I expect it's an awful lot of effort for the cash that's actually
in the machine though.

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Halmyre

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Aug 28, 2007, 11:45:25 AM8/28/07
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In article <ogb8d3hdso4i1lpch...@4ax.com>,
nozza_a...@yahoo.co.uk says...

> Tunnel gang targets cash machine
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6966764.stm
>
> Noz
>

"It is not known...what they did with all the soil"

Have they never seen 'The Great Escape'? Just look out for chaps in
baggy trousers nonchalantly strolling around with their hands in their
pockets...

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Halmyre

Stimpy

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Aug 28, 2007, 3:42:05 PM8/28/07
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On 28/8/07 15:34, "malc" wrote:
>
> Brilliant. If I was going to rob a bank that's the sort of scheme I'd
> try. I expect it's an awful lot of effort for the cash that's actually
> in the machine though.

I was thinking that. How much money is in a full cashpoint machine?

Neill

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Aug 28, 2007, 3:49:03 PM8/28/07
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On Aug 28, 4:45 pm, Halmyre <nos...@this.address> wrote:
> In article <ogb8d3hdso4i1lpchvmu772oe31845l...@4ax.com>,
> nozza_again_...@yahoo.co.uk says...

>
> > Tunnel gang targets cash machine
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6966764.stm
>
> > Noz
>
> "It is not known...what they did with all the soil"
>
> Have they never seen 'The Great Escape'? Just look out for chaps in
> baggy trousers nonchalantly strolling around with their hands in their
> pockets...
>
> --
> Halmyre

Wouldn't it have been easier and quicker to nick an SUV and drag the
ting out of the wall? I am wondering how they intended to get through
the foundations.


Neill

Malc

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Aug 28, 2007, 4:11:29 PM8/28/07
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I have no idea. Tell you what, let's tunnel under Lloyds Banks and....... Oh
bugger.

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Malc

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Lucy Richley - Senior Physicist


Dave Liquorice

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Aug 28, 2007, 4:04:38 PM8/28/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:16:19 +0100, Nozza wrote:

> Tunnel gang targets cash machine

Seems an *awful* lot of effort for the contents of even one well and
freshly filled cash machine. My gut feeling is they hoped to tap into the
cash in regular manner over a period of time. Though how long before the
discrepancy between the cash dispensed and that supplied rang alarm bells
is another matter.

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J D Craggs

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Aug 28, 2007, 4:49:16 PM8/28/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:04:38 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<new...@howhill.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:16:19 +0100, Nozza wrote:
>
>> Tunnel gang targets cash machine
>
>Seems an *awful* lot of effort for the contents of even one well and
>freshly filled cash machine. My gut feeling is they hoped to tap into the
>cash in regular manner over a period of time. Though how long before the
>discrepancy between the cash dispensed and that supplied rang alarm bells
>is another matter.

Maybe the target wasn't so much the ready cash but the card
and pin numbers? Maybe the plan was to add some sort of scanning
device which could work undetected for quite a while, unlike the
'false fronts' which have been fitted to some machines. No idea how
feasible this would be technically, but it makes more sense that just
a one-off emptying.

Gyppo

Neill

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Aug 28, 2007, 5:03:13 PM8/28/07
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On Aug 28, 9:49 pm, J D Craggs <gyp...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:04:38 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
>

I can't see how they would be able to target the cashmachine. It would
take a good bit of luck to come up right below it. I wonder if that
was the target at all. Perhaps they were intending to come up under
somewhere like the local Currys.

Neill

Dave Liquorice

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Aug 28, 2007, 5:22:52 PM8/28/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:03:13 -0700, Neill wrote:

> I can't see how they would be able to target the cashmachine.

This is on a retail park, quite often there is a blockhouse with several
machines come up inside the blockhouse and get a few machines. Still seems
an awful lot of effort and wouldn't the interior of the blockhouse have
PIRs etc so the alarm would be triggered.

Getting card numbers and PINs is an interesting one. Though I'm not sure
how one would get undetected access to the machine internals to do that.

Brian Watson

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Aug 29, 2007, 3:42:57 AM8/29/07
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"Malc" <malw...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Stimpy wrote:
>> On 28/8/07 15:34, "malc" wrote:
>>>
>>> Brilliant. If I was going to rob a bank that's the sort of scheme I'd
>>> try. I expect it's an awful lot of effort for the cash that's
>>> actually in the machine though.
>>
>> I was thinking that. How much money is in a full cashpoint machine?
>
> I have no idea. Tell you what, let's tunnel under Lloyds Banks and.......
> Oh bugger.

:-)

It must be in the tens of thousands.

They hardly ever run out at weekends now, and I've frequently seen people
trouser well over Ł100 per withdrawal.
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Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."


Brian Watson

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Aug 29, 2007, 3:40:53 AM8/29/07
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"Neill" <wormw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps they were intending to come up under
> somewhere like the local Currys.

Can't see the point in that.

:-)

Andrew Clark

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Aug 29, 2007, 2:56:30 PM8/29/07
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"Nozza" <nozza_a...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote

I wonder if they knew that, these days, most cash machines have an
anti-tamper and vibration sensor which sprays the contents with indelible
dye?


Jim

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Aug 29, 2007, 4:25:59 PM8/29/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:16:19 +0100, Nozza
<nozza_a...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Tunnel gang targets cash machine
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6966764.stm
>
>Noz

Reminds me of a slight problem one of the banks came across in the
centre of Leicester some years back, whilst they were converting a
building for bank use.

Whilst building the vaults, they unearthed an old tunnel that ran
under several of the shops and would have been right under the vault!
Needless to say it was all concreted in.

Jim

Chris Harland

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Jan 14, 2012, 3:40:27 AM1/14/12
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If the estimates of £6000 haul and 6 months taken then just in terms of man power + materials I doubt these guys would have earned more than minimum wage!

They could have earnt much more doing an honest days work in the building trade.

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