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Adam H

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Apr 25, 2001, 3:23:43 PM4/25/01
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Has anyone heard of a Pegasus 220 canopy before - I understand they're 7
cells and can also be used for CReW but are they any good? ZP? Low pack
volume and (because of the CReW bit) can they be used for terminal
deployments?

Excessive 'Whole Nut' may be causing me to temporarily 'upsize' from my
Chute Shop ZP185EXE that goes like a rocket, but lands the same!!

Otherwise, does anyone have a 7/9 cell 210 that they're willing to sell or
hire in the UK Midlands area for a while while I loose a few (OK then -
several) pounds?

Cheers

Adam H


Colin Fitzmaurice

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Apr 25, 2001, 5:06:49 PM4/25/01
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In article <tee8van...@xo.supernews.co.uk>, Adam H
<adrena...@bigfoot.com> writes

I had 3 Pegasussss in the early eighties. I did crew, accuracy and rw
with them. They were a brilliant, innovative canopy in their day and
were highly copied. Designed by Mike Furry whose company, Django
Enterprises, became Glidepath after a litigation tiff with Paraflite
over some patent issues. The Pegasus the metamorphed into the Fury which
was never as good. Not ZP, that came some ten years later. There was a
bit of a glitch in the Mk2 Pegasus when the steering line cascades were
lengthened for the wrong reasons but a mod was issued to revert to the
original design. They often started to snivel after a few hundred jumps
which could be controlled with packing but they were completely ragged
out after 800 to 1000 jumps.

Not gospel, my opinion. Asbestos knickers on. Go ahead.

BSBD

Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.theparachutecentre.com
The Parachute Centre
Tilstock Airfield
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Shropshire SY13 2HA
United Kingdom
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Gary McGuinness

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Apr 26, 2001, 8:32:26 AM4/26/01
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Mike Furry also started Sunpath (Javelin).
Gary


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skydavenz

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Apr 27, 2001, 4:00:31 AM4/27/01
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Mike Furry owned Django, which made the Pegasus, Dragonfly and Firefly (I've
got one sitting in my wardrobe) canopies. Steve Snyder successfully sued him
over the line attachment method and put him out of business (the patent is
question is now expired).
Glidepath was founded by Lucia Furry, for legal reasons, using Mike's
designs which were basically the Django canopies using the "flare" line
attachment method.
Mike then went on to found Sunpath which he later sold to Derrick Thomas.
Glidepath was sold to Flight Concepts amid some controversy over the Nova
canopy (don't ask me to elaborate, I don't know!).
The Furrys then went on to create Altico and the Dolphin container, which is
what they are doing today.......DC

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David TK Hayes

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Apr 27, 2001, 4:47:13 AM4/27/01
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any pegasus canopy out there has got to be 15 years old - 'nuff said, buy
something else..
TK

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Colin Fitzmaurice

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Apr 27, 2001, 5:11:17 AM4/27/01
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In article <lmaG6.1195$PA5.3...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, David TK Hayes
<tkh...@skydivecity.com> writes

>any pegasus canopy out there has got to be 15 years old - 'nuff said, buy
>something else..
>TK

IIRC the last Pegasus was built in 1983. Oh boy, I'm feeling old now! :)

LORD OF THE SKY

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Apr 27, 2001, 8:06:47 AM4/27/01
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Colin Fitzmaurice <co...@tilstock.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>The Pegasus the metamorphed into the Fury which
> was never as good.

The Fury was cut out with the exact same templates as the Pegasus. The
only difference was in the name tag.

>Not ZP, that came some ten years later.

I believe Flight Concepts will build you a ZP Fury on request. With their
computerised cutting table they can even build a Fury wing to any custom
size.

> They often started to snivel after a few hundred jumps
> which could be controlled with packing but they were completely ragged
> out after 800 to 1000 jumps.

I put over 1300 jumps on a Pegasus I bought third hand. It did get a bit
snivelly after about 700 jumps but a modified slider fixed that up. In fact
I jumped it after the modification off the New River Gorge Bridge with no
concern.
After 1300 jumps plus however many were on it when I got it ,it was
retired to water training.

"Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Colin Fitzmaurice

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Apr 27, 2001, 9:49:15 AM4/27/01
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In article <9cbnh...@enews3.newsguy.com>, LORD OF THE SKY
<lord...@ellijay.com> writes

>
>Colin Fitzmaurice <co...@tilstock.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>The Pegasus the metamorphed into the Fury which
>> was never as good.
>
> The Fury was cut out with the exact same templates as the Pegasus. The
>only difference was in the name tag.

As I said, just my opinion after a lot of Pegasus jumps and several on a
Fury. After the Pegasus, the Fury seemed a bit of a dog. Perhaps the
flares caused a bit of drag? Who knows.

Gunter Worlein

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Apr 27, 2001, 10:59:04 AM4/27/01
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Hi Colin,

you're right - the Fury was quite a bit different in its performance (it was the
different load distribution - Flares - ) and it had a tad more lift but less
airspeed.--

Gunter E Worlein
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Matt L.

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Apr 27, 2001, 11:50:34 AM4/27/01
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It'd be a good candidate for an intentional cutaway then?!!!

I jumped a GQ Rayder in a GQ system container (?) once (well about 20 times)
just after I got my cat 8. It scared me. It could have looked like it had
been used in WW2 were it not for the colour scheme!

Matt.


Bryan Teeson

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Apr 27, 2001, 2:22:23 PM4/27/01
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I think Colin was referring to the flares in his trousers, didn't have his
shorts in those days eh? Colin,

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Gunter Worlein

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Apr 27, 2001, 3:12:34 PM4/27/01
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Here is an overview from all the factories that used/uses Mike's Pegasus templets:

BTW: The Ur-father of all of those canopies was a proportinally changed Strato-Cloud form
Para Flight!!
 
 

Django Enterp. Pegasus 7C FireFly7C Dragonfly9c LR-288 Bandit9c
Precision Arrow Arrow Arrow Arrow Arrow
FTS/FAR Bogey ? Rascal Laser Rascal
PISA SkyMaster SkyMaster SkyMaster SkyMaster SkyMaster
after Django Fury Firelite Raider Manta Wildfire
Skydive G Magic7c Magic7c Magic9c-230 Magic9c-290 Magic9c-186
ParaTec Malibu Malibu Malibu Malibu Malibu

LORD OF THE SKY

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Apr 27, 2001, 7:15:22 PM4/27/01
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So Gunter,
What do you mean to show by the chart?

"Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

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LORD OF THE SKY

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Apr 27, 2001, 7:38:00 PM4/27/01
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You could be right Colin, in that the flares caused more drag.
When I went from a worn out Pegasus to a brand new Fury I figured the
lower speed was on the vertical.
Either way I believe the Fury to be a good wing all around (base ,CRW,
accuracy) .
I also feel that the Flight Concepts "Sharpchuter" may be a superior
wing to the Fury . In its' stock configuration it is 245 but Flight Concepts
can build it ,proportionately, to any size desired.
I've jumped all three (peggy,fury,shrpchtr) into very tight show
landing areas(80ft.x80ft.asphalt)surrounded on all sides by spectators
,without incident. Weighing in at 238 lbs.with gear I prefer the 245
Sharpchuter for show jumps. I have good penetration into the wind and I can
also sink it nearly straight down to a stand up landing.

"Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

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> In article <9cbnh...@enews3.newsguy.com>, LORD OF THE SKY
> <lord...@ellijay.com> writes
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> >Colin Fitzmaurice <co...@tilstock.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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freeflyer

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Apr 28, 2001, 9:45:19 PM4/28/01
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LORD OF THE SKY wrote:
>
> I also feel that the Flight Concepts "Sharpchuter" may be a superior
> wing to the Fury . In its' stock configuration it is 245 but Flight Concepts
> can build it ,proportionately, to any size desired.

We've been using two or three of those as student canopies at my club
for quite some time. I believe I made one of my first ones on a
Sharpchuter.


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Espen
ALF#1

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