Miroku 7000 -SP1
Peter Kay
Sporting shooting. A bit late I know but any opinions on the gun? Bought
second hand for £600 from Malmo in Lancaster as I've now discovered a few
shoots in the area, first tomorrow at Wyre Gun Club near Preston.
Excellent service form Malmo incidentally, no rush and got to try a couple
of guns in anger, preferred the Miroku over a very similar but older
Winchester.
Apologies BTW to Joe, I've just seen your reply to my original request for
shoots around Lancaster whilst mooching around Google. BT is crap and drops
more posts than it shows. Thanks for the information.
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Regards,
Peter
http://www.yachthawkwind.co.uk
JJ
Peter Kay <p...@yachthawkwind.co.uk@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> I've just bought the above gun, 30" barrels, multichoke, for English
> Sporting shooting. A bit late I know but any opinions on the gun? Bought
> second hand for £600 from Malmo in
Well, it's a Browning 425 for less money (£600 is a very reasonable price if
in good condition), so it's really pretty damn good. The only real problem
is that older Mirokus tend to have very short stocks, the average Japanese
chap being smaller than the average European. That can be sorted with a
recoil pad or (better in my opinion) leather spacers, and the lack of cast
can be easily sorted once you've been shooting for a while. I'd say you've
landed on your feet.
Jamie
Peter Kay
<warm glow>
Thanks for that Jamie, it's not often I get a bargain so I'm well
chuffed. Condition is nearly new, interestingly the reason I nearly
went for an older Winchester was it felt like a longer stock due to a
recoil pad. I might try one on the Miroku when I've had a chance to
really try it out.
Notice I'm posting from Google, BT didn't show this message either.
Regards,
Peter
JJ
Peter Kay <p...@yachthawkwind.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks for that Jamie, it's not often I get a bargain so I'm well
> chuffed. Condition is nearly new, interestingly the reason I nearly
> went for an older Winchester was it felt like a longer stock due to a
> recoil pad. I might try one on the Miroku when I've had a chance to
> really try it out.
Be careful of recoil pads, though. If recoil is a problem for you, by all
means get one fitted, but it will hamper your gun mount. The rubber tends to
snag on clothing and feels less precise than having a hard butt-plate
snicking into your shoulder. As a teenager, I had a Winchester 101 that had
been modified for a tall chap. Several leather spacers were placed between
the stock and the butt-plate, so there was still hard plastic at the end
instead of rubber. Far better in my view, expecially as we're all using 28g
loads that barely kick at all compared to the 36g loads of my youth. You can
also make leather spacers yourself, just by taking off the butt-plate and
using it as a stencil on the leather, and cutting out as many spacers as you
need with a Stanley knife.
Of course, you could choose to shoot gun up (in the shoulder when you call
for the clay) forever in English Sporting and English Skeet, but learning to
shoot gun down (out of the shoulder when you call for the clay) is
worthwhile in my view. It will be essential if you try FITASC or Olympic
Skeet, and you may want to try game shooting.
Have fun with the Miroku, and remember that any advice in the magazines
about Browning Citoris/325s/425s will also apply to your gun.
Jamie
Peter Kay
Recoil isn't a problem so I'll try the spacers as you suggest. I
always used to call for the bird with the gun dismounted but that was
when I could shoot! Looks like I'll have to learm all over again.
Thanks again, 5 messages in the thread now, still only one on BT news
server.
Regards,
Peter
JJ
> Recoil isn't a problem so I'll try the spacers as you suggest. I
> always used to call for the bird with the gun dismounted but that was
> when I could shoot! Looks like I'll have to learm all over again.
You can always try the old method of gun-mount practice - in front of a
mirror! You'll feel a bit of a bamstick if anyone sees you (and I mean
family members, as such practice should never be visible to the great
unwashed), but it really does help, so I'm told... Anyway, it should come
back to you once the stock fits well. I recommend John Bidwell's book,
"Move, Mount, Shoot" which teaches the maintained lead method and
presupposes that you'll start gun-down.
One slight caution, if like many of us you feel a tad intimidated when
shooting in the company of competitive strangers; that envoirnment tends to
ruin my mount, probably because my wanders. Lots of practice among friends
is the best bet. Now, where's Joe to give us the benefit of his advice?
Jamie
Derek Turner
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>is the best bet. Now, where's Joe to give us the benefit of his advice?
>
over in uk.rec.shooting.game when i last saw him!
Derek Turner
NB if replying by e-mail do the obvious to get my valid address.
JJ
> One slight caution, if like many of us you feel a tad intimidated when
> shooting in the company of competitive strangers; that envoirnment tends
to
> ruin my mount, probably because my wanders. Lots of practice among friends
> is the best bet. Now, where's Joe to give us the benefit of his advice?
My mind must have been wandering, as I missed out the word "mind" somewhere
in that lot....
JJ
Derek Turner <frd...@barclays.dot.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:47:23 +0100, "JJ" <j...@jgjSPAM.flyer.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >is the best bet. Now, where's Joe to give us the benefit of his advice?
> >
> over in uk.rec.shooting.game when i last saw him!
Yup, sounds like he's going to try some less predictable targets! I just
hope he doesn't turn up at a game shoot with a semi-auto....
Jamie
Peter Kay
more spiders than you could shake a stick at :-)
I've found a shooting ground not too far away which gives refresher courses,
A6 Clay Target Centre, the old Westhoughton Gun Club. I will give them a try
unless anyone knows anything adverse??
It's just bloody frustrating to go round a 50 bird shoot and score 17 when I
used to do 40+ 15 years ago.
Joe Bridgehouse
I'm lurking on here as well.........I've been busy building a new web site
cos I've had to change ISP's, Cable&Wireless are closing all accounts so
I've gone with BT.....Since the change I'm actually seeing more posts,
unlike Peter......I think the Mirooks a good buy, if its fitted well and
with say, a kick-eez pad and some Briley chokes, as good as anything..Or if
funds are no barrier, a Danuser.......I was using a Gamba Daytona at weekend
fitted with a Danuser and was well impressed, I'm saving up for one, the
Danuser I mean,.......I like Briley chokes and bought some on line from
Chris Potter Ł19+vat......If you do fit a new pad to the Mirook try and get
a leather faced one, they do stop snagging on your Skeet Jacket...
Peter asked about shooting in the Lancaster area, My Mate Kevin Mayor is now
giving lessons at Blackpool Gun Club, Kirkham, Ł40 I believe, could be money
well spent, but even so Blackpool is a good ground and they shoot every week
end.
Joe B
Joe Bridgehouse
>
Joe Bridgehouse
"Joe Bridgehouse" <J.Brid...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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shooters have had a lesson with Kevin Mayor, all said it had done them a
world of good.....So if anyone is interested in a lesson, I can give you
Kevin's mobile and home telephone numbers, but not on the group,
obviously....
JJ
> >Will my Beretta 682 be acceptable? :-)))
Oh, I suppose so... As long as it's not a trap model, and you use the
standard chokes rather than sticky-outy ones, and you don't mind lugging
8lbs + round fields all day! My Browning GTI is great to shoot and looks not
too much like a competition gun, but it is bloody heavy after 5 miles
through muddy fields and thick cover, and 30 inch barrels need care to avoid
getting crap in the end of the barrels.
Let me know if you're up this way around Chrimbo, Joe. I have one guest day
left!
Jamie
JJ
> It's just bloody frustrating to go round a 50 bird shoot and score 17 when
I
> used to do 40+ 15 years ago.
It is more likely to be your "mental game" that has suffered than your
skill. Take it as a bit of fun, and it's amazing how quickly the scores come
up. Those who find it hardest are those who take it too seriously.
Jamie
Steve Davies
to lose the advantages of shooting gun down.
I have a kikeeze fitted to a 425. I had a disk replacement op (in neck) so
recoil so recoil probs best avoided. some french chalk rubbed on the pad
cures the sticking problems, I had lots of trouble getting the french
chalk - tried hardware shops a plenty and they didn't have a clue what it
was. in the end found it in an artists shop. sold in bags all powdered up
not in hard shiny lumps like I used to see it. smallest bag from arts shop
contains enough to do hundreds of guns but it only costs pennies. if you get
a bag share it around your club/mates. It works, got the tip from a guy who
has been shooting over 50 years.
Steve Davies.news:tt91psk...@corp.supernews.com...
Peter Kay
You could well be right. I killed the first pair of springing teal on
Saturday, never a favourite bird of mine. I got such a shock and
thought "how did I do that then??"
I missed the next three pairs, nowhere near them. Thinking got the
better of me!
Regards,
Peter
rodgers-tribe
"Steve Davies" <steve....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Agreed on the recoil pads, ther is a cure however that doesn't require you
> to lose the advantages of shooting gun down.
> I have a kikeeze fitted to a 425. I had a disk replacement op (in neck)
so
> recoil so recoil probs best avoided. some french chalk rubbed on the pad
> cures the sticking problems, I had lots of trouble getting the french
> chalk - tried hardware shops a plenty and they didn't have a clue what it
> was. in the end found it in an artists shop. sold in bags all powdered up
> not in hard shiny lumps like I used to see it. smallest bag from arts shop
> contains enough to do hundreds of guns but it only costs pennies. if you
get
> a bag share it around your club/mates. It works, got the tip from a guy
who
> has been shooting over 50 years.
> Steve Davies.
And if your club's got a dance-floor you're quids in!
FWIW I'm a Miroku shooter too. I bought a second hand Miroku 8 years ago
which I now use for everything except skeet and solid slug (!), and I'm very
happy with it. As to the model, I don't know & don't care, but it's a 28"
O/U with plain black action, not much shot but much carried - therefore
probably a gamekeeper's gun. Fixed chokes quarter & improved. I had to get a
good stock person to add an inch to it to make it a perfect fit for me. I
don't care what it looks like, so long as it shoots well, and it does.
Colin