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Tone
Jul 22, 2022, 9:47:05 AM7/22/22
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That gets me every time.
How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
iznay?
How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
Tone
How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
iznay?
How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
Tone
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 22, 2022, 10:30:02 AM7/22/22
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:47:02 +0100
Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> That gets me every time.
>
> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
> iznay?
Coz independent is the opposite of dependent not dependant (one is
Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> That gets me every time.
>
> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
> iznay?
the state of depending on sommat, the other is the one in that state).
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Tone
Jul 22, 2022, 1:01:50 PM7/22/22
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On 22/07/2022 15:06, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:47:02 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> That gets me every time.
>>
>> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
>> iznay?
>
> Coz independent is the opposite of dependent not dependant (one is
> the state of depending on sommat, the other is the one in that state).
>
Not so according to my dickshunhairy
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:47:02 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> That gets me every time.
>>
>> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
>> iznay?
>
> Coz independent is the opposite of dependent not dependant (one is
> the state of depending on sommat, the other is the one in that state).
>
Adjective: dependant
Noun:
1. A person who relies on another person for support
1. Contingent on somthing else
2. Addicted to a drug
Noun: dependent
1. A person who relies on another person for support
Adjective:
1. Not independent
2. Contingent on something else
Tone
soup
Jul 22, 2022, 2:00:17 PM7/22/22
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On 22/07/2022 14:47, Tone wrote:
> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Tone
Go to the Thunderbird tools menu and select Preferences.
> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Tone
Select the Composition tab.
Under Spelling, select the Enable spellcheck as you type check box.
soup
Jul 22, 2022, 2:46:41 PM7/22/22
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On 22/07/2022 14:47, Tone wrote:
> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Tone
Go to the Thunderbird menu and select Preferences.
>
> Tone
Tease'n'Seize
Jul 22, 2022, 3:36:51 PM7/22/22
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soup wrote:
> Tone wrote:
>
>> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Tone wrote:
>
>> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Go to the Thunderbird menu and select Preferences.
> Select the Composition tab.
> Under Spelling, select the Enable spellcheck as you type check box.
You porbably want to install Marco Pinto's British English Dictionary too ...
> Select the Composition tab.
> Under Spelling, select the Enable spellcheck as you type check box.
Adrian Caspersz
Jul 22, 2022, 3:55:12 PM7/22/22
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On 22/07/2022 14:47, Tone wrote:
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 22, 2022, 4:00:27 PM7/22/22
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> Noun: dependent
> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> Noun: dependent
> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
Tone
Jul 22, 2022, 4:07:15 PM7/22/22
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Now jbexing.
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Tone
Tone
Jul 22, 2022, 4:08:38 PM7/22/22
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Ta
Tone
Richard Robinson
Jul 22, 2022, 4:22:24 PM7/22/22
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Jul 22, 2022, 4:23:24 PM7/22/22
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
An adjective pronounced with a silent noun ?
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
Nicholas D. Richards
Jul 22, 2022, 4:41:40 PM7/22/22
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In article <20220722203155.fb11...@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> on Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 20:31:55 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
- "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
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Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> on Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 20:31:55 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
>Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
>noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
>
The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
>Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
>noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
>
Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
- "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
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Ilya Kostarev
Jul 22, 2022, 8:28:41 PM7/22/22
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Tone
Jul 22, 2022, 8:59:28 PM7/22/22
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Tone
Don Stockbauer
Jul 22, 2022, 10:27:18 PM7/22/22
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inflammable
non-inflammable
RustyHinge
Jul 22, 2022, 11:47:30 PM7/22/22
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RustyHinge
Jul 22, 2022, 11:49:40 PM7/22/22
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On 22/07/2022 20:31, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
I disagree with the dictionary TAAAW. 'Dependent' is an adjective, not a
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Noun: dependent
>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>
> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
RustyHinge
Jul 22, 2022, 11:55:59 PM7/22/22
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'dependent' is an adjective? (And possibly an adverb?)
I don't see it as a boneofcontention.
RustyHinge
Jul 22, 2022, 11:57:42 PM7/22/22
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RustyHinge
Jul 23, 2022, 12:02:03 AM7/23/22
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On 22/07/2022 21:22, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Adrian Caspersz said:
>> On 22/07/2022 14:47, Tone wrote:
>>> That gets me every time.
>>>
>>> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
>>> iznay?
>>>
>>> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>>
>> cf. inflammable vs. flamable
>
> I like "apart" vs. "a part". 1 word, 2 things; 2 words, 1 thing.
I like the early Collins' definition of 'nice': "Exact, precise, to the
> Adrian Caspersz said:
>> On 22/07/2022 14:47, Tone wrote:
>>> That gets me every time.
>>>
>>> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
>>> iznay?
>>>
>>> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>>
>> cf. inflammable vs. flamable
>
> I like "apart" vs. "a part". 1 word, 2 things; 2 words, 1 thing.
point. Often used to mean pleasant by those who are not nice."
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 23, 2022, 2:00:03 AM7/23/22
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 05:02:00 +0100
RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> I like the early Collins' definition of 'nice': "Exact, precise, to the
> point. Often used to mean pleasant by those who are not nice."
That is a nice definition.
RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> I like the early Collins' definition of 'nice': "Exact, precise, to the
> point. Often used to mean pleasant by those who are not nice."
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 23, 2022, 2:00:03 AM7/23/22
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 04:55:56 +0100
RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> ASeemingly you *do* agree that dependant is a noun. Do you agree that
> 'dependent' is an adjective? (And possibly an adverb?)
Yes exactly.
RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> ASeemingly you *do* agree that dependant is a noun. Do you agree that
> 'dependent' is an adjective? (And possibly an adverb?)
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 23, 2022, 2:30:01 AM7/23/22
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:31:59 +0100
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
Yes dependAnt is a noun dependEnt is not.
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
Nicholas D. Richards
Jul 23, 2022, 4:55:30 AM7/23/22
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In article <tbfrge$3kqo7$1...@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@fooba
r.girolle.co.uk> on Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 04:55:56 awoke Nicholas from
'dependent', while the noun has the alternative spellings 'dependent'
and 'dependant'.
<Musings> if the noun 'dependant' has an alternative spelling of
'dependent', why does 'pedant' not have an alternative of 'pedent'?
r.girolle.co.uk> on Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 04:55:56 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
>On 22/07/2022 21:31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <20220722203155.fb11...@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> on Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 20:31:55 awoke
>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
>>> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Noun: dependent
>>>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>>>
>>> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
>>> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
>>>
>> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
>> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
>> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
>
>ASeemingly you *do* agree that dependant is a noun. Do you agree that
>'dependent' is an adjective? (And possibly an adverb?)
>
>I don't see it as a boneofcontention.
>
Smallboneofcontention <grin> strangely the adjective is only spelt
>On 22/07/2022 21:31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <20220722203155.fb11...@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> on Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 20:31:55 awoke
>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:01:47 +0100
>>> Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Noun: dependent
>>>> 1. A person who relies on another person for support
>>>
>>> Here is where I disagree with your dictionary it shouldn't be a
>>> noun, but it's probably become one by common use.
>>>
>> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
>> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
>> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
>
>ASeemingly you *do* agree that dependant is a noun. Do you agree that
>'dependent' is an adjective? (And possibly an adverb?)
>
>I don't see it as a boneofcontention.
>
'dependent', while the noun has the alternative spellings 'dependent'
and 'dependant'.
<Musings> if the noun 'dependant' has an alternative spelling of
'dependent', why does 'pedant' not have an alternative of 'pedent'?
Richard Robinson
Jul 23, 2022, 5:32:38 AM7/23/22
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Tone
Jul 23, 2022, 6:43:03 AM7/23/22
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On 23/07/2022 07:26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:31:59 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
>> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
>> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
>
> Yes dependAnt is a noun dependEnt is not.
>
I goove it depends on whether you are speaking English or Merkan.
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:31:59 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
>> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours Lost
>> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
>
> Yes dependAnt is a noun dependEnt is not.
>
The Oxford and Collins dictionaries agree with you.
But
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/spelling-variants-dependent-vs-dependant
Tone
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Jul 23, 2022, 6:56:16 AM7/23/22
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indian area (Pakistan, Bharat, Bengla Desh), perhaps they should be
considered in determining a standard.
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Jul 23, 2022, 7:15:10 AM7/23/22
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always do it at the end.
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> That gets me every time.
>
> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
> iznay?
>
> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
> Tone
>
> How come 'independent' is the opposite of 'dependant' but 'independant'
> iznay?
>
> How do I get speel chucker to jbex automatically on Thunderbox?
>
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Jul 23, 2022, 7:30:03 AM7/23/22
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 11:43:01 +0100
Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> On 23/07/2022 07:26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:31:59 +0100
> > "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
> >> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours
> >> Lost
> >> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
> >
> > Yes dependAnt is a noun dependEnt is not.
> >
>
> I goove it depends on whether you are speaking English or Merkan.
>
> The Oxford and Collins dictionaries agree with you.
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Tone <to...@email.com> wrote:
> On 23/07/2022 07:26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:31:59 +0100
> > "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The OED has it as a noun, and it has been for nearly 500 years.
> >> Shakespeare used it that way more than 400 years ago (Loves Labours
> >> Lost
> >> - "The best ward of mine honour, is rewarding my dependants .")
> >
> > Yes dependAnt is a noun dependEnt is not.
> >
>
> I goove it depends on whether you are speaking English or Merkan.
>
> The Oxford and Collins dictionaries agree with you.
It's good to see they get something right in the other place, some
of their alumni have proved quite disappointing.
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/spelling-variants-dependent-vs-dependant
Ah the infamous spelling revisionists - hey guys there is no world
shortage of Us.
chr...@privacy.net
Jul 23, 2022, 7:54:39 AM7/23/22
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Actually, 'inflammable' is now of course deprecated as it became
ambiguous after the 1970s - like a lot of things!
Chris
Richard Robinson
Jul 23, 2022, 8:08:02 AM7/23/22
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Sam Plusnet
Jul 23, 2022, 3:16:48 PM7/23/22
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reform, but they didn't.
They just piddled around at the edges in a "Why the %^&*( did they
bother?" sort of way.
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Nicholas D. Richards
Jul 24, 2022, 2:49:23 AM7/24/22
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In article <yOXCK.678632$83a5....@fx05.ams1>, Sam Plusnet
<n...@home.com> on Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 20:16:46 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
The trouble with spelling reform, As I See It;
the pronunciation of words changes with time and place, so spelling
reform could only be a continuous process and would be different in
different parts of the country. Would it be garage or garridge, Nigl
Far-ridge or Nigel Farraage?
old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
a forrin langidge.
is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
inheritance?
<n...@home.com> on Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 20:16:46 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
the pronunciation of words changes with time and place, so spelling
reform could only be a continuous process and would be different in
different parts of the country. Would it be garage or garridge, Nigl
Far-ridge or Nigel Farraage?
old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
a forrin langidge.
is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
inheritance?
Richard Robinson
Jul 24, 2022, 6:30:13 AM7/24/22
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Nicholas D. Richards said:
>>
> The trouble with spelling reform, As I See It;
>
> the pronunciation of words changes with time and place, so spelling
> reform could only be a continuous process and would be different in
> different parts of the country. Would it be garage or garridge, Nigl
> Far-ridge or Nigel Farraage?
>
> old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
> a forrin langidge.
>
> is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
> our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
> foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
> inheritance?
Or just a wbo-creation scheme ?
>>
> The trouble with spelling reform, As I See It;
>
> the pronunciation of words changes with time and place, so spelling
> reform could only be a continuous process and would be different in
> different parts of the country. Would it be garage or garridge, Nigl
> Far-ridge or Nigel Farraage?
>
> old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
> a forrin langidge.
>
> is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
> our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
> foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
> inheritance?
soup
Jul 24, 2022, 10:04:01 AM7/24/22
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On 23/07/2022 12:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I hate as you type spelling checkers they spoil you chain of thought. I
> always do it at the end.
> Brian
>
Thunderbird will do that, it's all in the preferences.
> I hate as you type spelling checkers they spoil you chain of thought. I
> always do it at the end.
> Brian
>
Sam Plusnet
Jul 24, 2022, 2:38:14 PM7/24/22
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the clean sweep, and stated that all worms are pronounced exactly as
they is spilled. After a generation had gone through school, everyone
(in the USA at least) would be singing from the same hymn-sheet &
pronunciation would be fixed.
>
> old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
> a forrin langidge.
<Shrug> Shakespeare is a forrin langidge to a lot of people today, so
> old texts, letters and cornflaik paccits wud become unreed'ble, or becum
> a forrin langidge.
reading "old" English would just become another specialist skill - like
reading Chaucer, or Beowulf.
>
> is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
> our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
> foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
> inheritance?
>
>
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> is it a plot to separate the poorly educated (the majority of us) from
> our elders and betters who can afford the time and money to learn
> foreign languages so that they can read that which should be our
> inheritance?
>
>
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