A trivial thing, but a pleasant one
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Richard Robinson
Aug 7, 2022, 9:08:32 AM8/7/22
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All summer I've had an ice-cream van niggling at me. It stops outside my
window and plays *half* of its jingle, damn its pereceptual organs to
the place of its least favourite choice. And, firstly, I know it but
how, what, where and why ? And, secondly, I can't help listening to
tunes, so I want to know how the rest of it goes. I don't know whether
half an earworm is an improvement on the whole thing or an extra descent
into annoyance, the presence of earwormitude is the point.
For q1, I vaguely thought I might know that it was the theme to a
televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
Which I mention merely for the possibility of sidetracking things, the
thing that pleases me is the second bit.
I had one of those "duh !" things a couple of hours ago and found it on
youtube on the second try - never having owned a telly since I emerged
from under said parentalage in 1970, my first try was the Original
(1964) version, but what I actually wanted was the subsequent 1970
version. Incidentally, the 1964 one was composed for militaristic band
by a Major someone who is described as a Drum Majorette. I hadn't
realised we'd ever had any of them.
Never mind all that, the fun point that I'm spinning this out as long as
I can rather than get to is that it's been earworming its way into me to
the point that a few days ago I picked up my clarinet and played [insert
pause here in deference to the Who] the first 2 phrases reasonably
bang-on first time, whch is not usually my best thing at all, I've never
been that quick with my ears. And it turned out that by some happy
coincidence that I did so at the same pitch as the canonical version,
which has made it very easy to have the whole thing under my fingers by
now. It's not long, after all.
So I'm sitting here with window open and instrument at the ready with
the intention of checking what pitch the van's playing it at so's I can
check the need for transposition in order to play along. And when I'm
good and ready I shall do so out of the open window in performance mode
and carry on with it after the bloody van's stopped half way, against
the remote offchance of amusing anybody else in the street who's paying
attention.
I know, I know, I should get a life. Tough, eh ?
Anybody here speak ABC ?
X:1
T:Match of the Day theme (1970)
C:Barry Stoller
N:The internet doesn't appear entirely certain as to the composer, I've also seen a
N: suggestion of "Rhet Stoller", but Barry is in a massive majority. I've also seen
N: indications that it was released on vinyl, but I haven't gone that far.
N:I love the internet
Z:Richard Robinson
M:C
K:A
|:E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c Bc dE GB | d>B BB BB- Bc | dB AB c
E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c de f2 fg | a>a a/g/f ae ef | ed c/c/B A :|
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
window and plays *half* of its jingle, damn its pereceptual organs to
the place of its least favourite choice. And, firstly, I know it but
how, what, where and why ? And, secondly, I can't help listening to
tunes, so I want to know how the rest of it goes. I don't know whether
half an earworm is an improvement on the whole thing or an extra descent
into annoyance, the presence of earwormitude is the point.
For q1, I vaguely thought I might know that it was the theme to a
televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
Which I mention merely for the possibility of sidetracking things, the
thing that pleases me is the second bit.
I had one of those "duh !" things a couple of hours ago and found it on
youtube on the second try - never having owned a telly since I emerged
from under said parentalage in 1970, my first try was the Original
(1964) version, but what I actually wanted was the subsequent 1970
version. Incidentally, the 1964 one was composed for militaristic band
by a Major someone who is described as a Drum Majorette. I hadn't
realised we'd ever had any of them.
Never mind all that, the fun point that I'm spinning this out as long as
I can rather than get to is that it's been earworming its way into me to
the point that a few days ago I picked up my clarinet and played [insert
pause here in deference to the Who] the first 2 phrases reasonably
bang-on first time, whch is not usually my best thing at all, I've never
been that quick with my ears. And it turned out that by some happy
coincidence that I did so at the same pitch as the canonical version,
which has made it very easy to have the whole thing under my fingers by
now. It's not long, after all.
So I'm sitting here with window open and instrument at the ready with
the intention of checking what pitch the van's playing it at so's I can
check the need for transposition in order to play along. And when I'm
good and ready I shall do so out of the open window in performance mode
and carry on with it after the bloody van's stopped half way, against
the remote offchance of amusing anybody else in the street who's paying
attention.
I know, I know, I should get a life. Tough, eh ?
Anybody here speak ABC ?
X:1
T:Match of the Day theme (1970)
C:Barry Stoller
N:The internet doesn't appear entirely certain as to the composer, I've also seen a
N: suggestion of "Rhet Stoller", but Barry is in a massive majority. I've also seen
N: indications that it was released on vinyl, but I haven't gone that far.
N:I love the internet
Z:Richard Robinson
M:C
K:A
|:E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c Bc dE GB | d>B BB BB- Bc | dB AB c
E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c de f2 fg | a>a a/g/f ae ef | ed c/c/B A :|
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
John Williamson
Aug 7, 2022, 9:38:45 AM8/7/22
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On 07/08/2022 14:08, Richard Robinson wrote:
> So I'm sitting here with window open and instrument at the ready with
> the intention of checking what pitch the van's playing it at so's I can
> check the need for transposition in order to play along. And when I'm
> good and ready I shall do so out of the open window in performance mode
> and carry on with it after the bloody van's stopped half way, against
> the remote offchance of amusing anybody else in the street who's paying
> attention.
>
> I know, I know, I should get a life. Tough, eh ?
>
If you listen while using Shazam on your cellular communication device,
> So I'm sitting here with window open and instrument at the ready with
> the intention of checking what pitch the van's playing it at so's I can
> check the need for transposition in order to play along. And when I'm
> good and ready I shall do so out of the open window in performance mode
> and carry on with it after the bloody van's stopped half way, against
> the remote offchance of amusing anybody else in the street who's paying
> attention.
>
> I know, I know, I should get a life. Tough, eh ?
>
it should identify the tune for you.
You can then download and transpose the sheet music...
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
Richard Robinson
Aug 7, 2022, 10:29:14 AM8/7/22
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off, yes, it might become a reason to remember to stick such a thing in
my pocket when I go out, in the same way as I do if I'll be wanting a
map or email access before I get home, but ... preferred way of
identifying a tune is through the oldfangled social medium of asking the
person who's playing it. The matter could still arise, of course, you
can't count of people knowing it, or wanting to be distracted from
whatever else they've gone onto play next. And maybe one day I will
investigate.
But in this particular case, I'm fine with the way it happened. It's
nice to chase such a thing up and be right.
The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
maus
Aug 7, 2022, 10:47:12 AM8/7/22
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On 2022-08-07, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> All summer I've had an ice-cream van niggling at me. It stops outside my
> window and plays *half* of its jingle, damn its pereceptual organs to
> the place of its least favourite choice. And, firstly, I know it but
> how, what, where and why ? And, secondly, I can't help listening to
> tunes, so I want to know how the rest of it goes. I don't know whether
> half an earworm is an improvement on the whole thing or an extra descent
> into annoyance, the presence of earwormitude is the point.
>
All Summer there has been an icecream van around here, playing. I don't
> All summer I've had an ice-cream van niggling at me. It stops outside my
> window and plays *half* of its jingle, damn its pereceptual organs to
> the place of its least favourite choice. And, firstly, I know it but
> how, what, where and why ? And, secondly, I can't help listening to
> tunes, so I want to know how the rest of it goes. I don't know whether
> half an earworm is an improvement on the whole thing or an extra descent
> into annoyance, the presence of earwormitude is the point.
>
mind much, as I know that the driver has survived an incredibly tough
childhood, parental cruelty (Father) before Mother decided that she had
enough. People survive such things.
--
grey...@mail.org
Fi Fi Fo Fum, I smell the stench of an influencer
ten, twenty million tops
Richard Robinson
Aug 7, 2022, 12:40:27 PM8/7/22
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Perfectionist alert; minor thinko in 2nd beat of penultimate bar
^
^
^
I knew what I was hearing, I was playing it as I heard it, but couldn't
quite manage to tell myself about it. But I'm allright nooooow
Not convinced it'll be any use to anyone, so it probably doesn't matter
to anyone else. Better would have been a picture of the tadpoles on my
website, but ... I have such a piccy, scp has sent it over to the
hosting, ssh confirms that it's there in the same bit of the fs where
everything else's coming from ok, which is a directory that the browser
insists is empty. Can't see anything wrong with permissions or .htaccess
... expecting a OFFS moment at some unpredictable time, but have more
important things to do (like this, obv) than the formal Invocation Of
The Teddybear.
>
> X:1
> T:Match of the Day theme (1970)
> C:Barry Stoller
> N:The internet doesn't appear entirely certain as to the composer, I've also seen a
> N: suggestion of "Rhet Stoller", but Barry is in a massive majority. I've also seen
> N: indications that it was released on vinyl, but I haven't gone that far.
> N:I love the internet
> Z:Richard Robinson
> M:C
> K:A
>|:E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c Bc dE GB | d>B BB BB- Bc | dB AB c
> E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c de f2 fg | a>a a/>g/f ae ef | ed c/c/B A :|
> X:1
> T:Match of the Day theme (1970)
> C:Barry Stoller
> N:The internet doesn't appear entirely certain as to the composer, I've also seen a
> N: suggestion of "Rhet Stoller", but Barry is in a massive majority. I've also seen
> N: indications that it was released on vinyl, but I haven't gone that far.
> N:I love the internet
> Z:Richard Robinson
> M:C
> K:A
>|:E Ac | e>c cc cc- cd | e>c Bc dE GB | d>B BB BB- Bc | dB AB c
^
^
^
I knew what I was hearing, I was playing it as I heard it, but couldn't
quite manage to tell myself about it. But I'm allright nooooow
Not convinced it'll be any use to anyone, so it probably doesn't matter
to anyone else. Better would have been a picture of the tadpoles on my
website, but ... I have such a piccy, scp has sent it over to the
hosting, ssh confirms that it's there in the same bit of the fs where
everything else's coming from ok, which is a directory that the browser
insists is empty. Can't see anything wrong with permissions or .htaccess
... expecting a OFFS moment at some unpredictable time, but have more
important things to do (like this, obv) than the formal Invocation Of
The Teddybear.
RustyHinge
Aug 7, 2022, 2:44:02 PM8/7/22
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On 07/08/2022 15:29, Richard Robinson wrote:
> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
The game I like playing with OS is 'spot the deliberate error'. They put
> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
wrong info' on maps to trap unwary plaguarissts.
For instance, near where I used to live, Hundred Bound Barn is labelled
'Hundred Pound Barn', and Highlands Farm is miscalled 'Highfields Farm'.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
Julian Macassey
Aug 7, 2022, 3:38:13 PM8/7/22
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 14:38:42 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwil...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
> If you listen while using Shazam on your cellular communication device,
> it should identify the tune for you.
But Shazam wants to own your fern.
<johnwil...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
> If you listen while using Shazam on your cellular communication device,
> it should identify the tune for you.
--
"Their (Microsoft's) products have no spirit to them, sort of no
spirit of enlightenment to them. They are very pedestrian." -
Steve Jobs 1995 TV interview
Richard Robinson
Aug 7, 2022, 4:52:38 PM8/7/22
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RustyHinge said:
> On 07/08/2022 15:29, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
>> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
>> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
>> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
>> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
>> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
>> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
>
> The game I like playing with OS is 'spot the deliberate error'. They put
> wrong info' on maps to trap unwary plaguarissts.
>
> For instance, near where I used to live, Hundred Bound Barn is labelled
> 'Hundred Pound Barn', and Highlands Farm is miscalled 'Highfields Farm'.
Grin. Not to mention spotting local-language versions of "Your finger,
> On 07/08/2022 15:29, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
>> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
>> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
>> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
>> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
>> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
>> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
>
> The game I like playing with OS is 'spot the deliberate error'. They put
> wrong info' on maps to trap unwary plaguarissts.
>
> For instance, near where I used to live, Hundred Bound Barn is labelled
> 'Hundred Pound Barn', and Highlands Farm is miscalled 'Highfields Farm'.
you fool".
RustyHinge
Aug 7, 2022, 5:38:17 PM8/7/22
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On 07/08/2022 21:52, Richard Robinson wrote:
> RustyHinge said:
>> On 07/08/2022 15:29, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
>>> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
>>> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
>>> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
>>> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
>>> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
>>> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
>>
>> The game I like playing with OS is 'spot the deliberate error'. They put
>> wrong info' on maps to trap unwary plaguarissts.
>>
>> For instance, near where I used to live, Hundred Bound Barn is labelled
>> 'Hundred Pound Barn', and Highlands Farm is miscalled 'Highfields Farm'.
>
> Grin. Not to mention spotting local-language versions of "Your finger,
> you fool".
ou don't have to look too far.
> RustyHinge said:
>> On 07/08/2022 15:29, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> The next gadgetty thing I'll (probably) search for a tuit about is a
>>> pocketfull of map. I thought to have a look at the OS site a while back,
>>> and they'll sell me a subscription for ~£30/yr which I think will buy me
>>> access to much better maps than oogGel, in ways that seem to include
>>> downloadability. So the question, hopefully, could be what size SD card
>>> I'd need, and never mind whether I can get a connection. Dependent to
>>> some extent on the quality of The App, of course. but WIBNI.
>>
>> The game I like playing with OS is 'spot the deliberate error'. They put
>> wrong info' on maps to trap unwary plaguarissts.
>>
>> For instance, near where I used to live, Hundred Bound Barn is labelled
>> 'Hundred Pound Barn', and Highlands Farm is miscalled 'Highfields Farm'.
>
> Grin. Not to mention spotting local-language versions of "Your finger,
> you fool".
Surveyor for new map, pointing at a watercourse: "What do you call that?"
Welshman "Afon (thinks - you fool)
Scot "Abhainn (thinks - you fool)
Cornishman - similar reply to Welshman
Irishman - similar answer to Scot.
In surveyors' attempts at local languages there are lots of mountains
called 'Mountain'; Hills called 'Hill', rivers called Avon, Abhainn, &c.
Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
Mike Fleming
Aug 7, 2022, 7:09:29 PM8/7/22
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On 07/08/2022 14:08, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>
> For q1, I vaguely thought I might know that it was the theme to a
> televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
> originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
> known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
> Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
> been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
> televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
> originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
> known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
> Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
> been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
sense he had/and it would take a dozen servants/to was his clothes and
scrub/since Paul became a member of that terrible football club". The
tune was that very same one. Aha.
https://www.elyrics.net/read/j/james-curran-lyrics/football-crazy-lyrics.html
I have no idea when the lyrics were penned.
Richard Robinson
Aug 7, 2022, 7:42:14 PM8/7/22
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unmemorable stuff that was coming out of ... I guess it was still the
BBC Light Music Program
RustyHinge
Aug 7, 2022, 10:10:13 PM8/7/22
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On 08/08/2022 00:42, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Mike Fleming said:
>> On 07/08/2022 14:08, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>> For q1, I vaguely thought I might know that it was the theme to a
>>> televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
>>> originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
>>> known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
>>> Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
>>> been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
>>
>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>> sense he had/and it would take a dozen servants/to was his clothes and
>> scrub/since Paul became a member of that terrible football club". The
>> tune was that very same one. Aha.
>> https://www.elyrics.net/read/j/james-curran-lyrics/football-crazy-lyrics.html
>>
>> I have no idea when the lyrics were penned.
>
> I vaguely having heard it, among all the other (contradicts self)
> unmemorable stuff that was coming out of ... I guess it was still the
> BBC Light Music Program
I've heard it on a multiplicity of 'occasions'. I would guess at 1970s
> Mike Fleming said:
>> On 07/08/2022 14:08, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>> For q1, I vaguely thought I might know that it was the theme to a
>>> televisual outbreak of fussballery yclept "Match of the Day" as
>>> originally performed on brassy things, and that the reason I would have
>>> known that, if it was true, would have been that it happened after
>>> Doctor Who before we got round to turning the gogglebox off, that having
>>> been under the parental roof of a nonfussballish family.
>>
>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>> sense he had/and it would take a dozen servants/to was his clothes and
>> scrub/since Paul became a member of that terrible football club". The
>> tune was that very same one. Aha.
>> https://www.elyrics.net/read/j/james-curran-lyrics/football-crazy-lyrics.html
>>
>> I have no idea when the lyrics were penned.
>
> I vaguely having heard it, among all the other (contradicts self)
> unmemorable stuff that was coming out of ... I guess it was still the
> BBC Light Music Program
or 1980s. It was played a lot, and prolly preceded and followed-up some
kickball pogrom on GI or rajo.
It certingly sidled into the mainstream of pop-ish (not Popish) musak.
maus
Aug 8, 2022, 2:27:16 AM8/8/22
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Aug 8, 2022, 2:30:03 AM8/8/22
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:09:27 +0100
Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
It was in the charts in the early 1960s, apparently penned around
Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
1880 which surprised me.
--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Richard Robinson
Aug 8, 2022, 4:03:57 AM8/8/22
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Scottish Soldier, The Chipmunks, the proposition that Mexicans dance on
hats, et Al. It's a limited space because I've never really had much use
for such info. I'm sure there are more recent examples, but I moved my
life into ways of not having to be paying attention to them.
I guess there must be a lot of people who do enjoy such things, or they
wouldn't be there. shrug. Nowt so queer as folk, except other folk, it's
all good, and so on.
Richard Robinson
Aug 8, 2022, 4:04:32 AM8/8/22
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:09:27 +0100
> Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>
> It was in the charts in the early 1960s, apparently penned around
> 1880 which surprised me.
! Me too.
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:09:27 +0100
> Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>
> It was in the charts in the early 1960s, apparently penned around
> 1880 which surprised me.
John Williamson
Aug 8, 2022, 4:34:36 AM8/8/22
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On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>
The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>
RustyHinge
Aug 8, 2022, 4:49:45 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 09:34, John Williamson wrote:
> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>
>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>
> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
That's the one I was gooving-of, but I disunforgot its name at the time
> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>
>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>
> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
innit.
There are loads of just double tautological placenames before the
horizon droops off the edge of the whirled.
Richard Robinson
Aug 8, 2022, 5:06:25 AM8/8/22
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John Williamson said:
> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>
>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>
> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten. Again, I
> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>
>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>
> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
think there are examples with a 3rd one, but me mind's a blank, guv.
Nicholas D. Richards
Aug 8, 2022, 5:07:30 AM8/8/22
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In article <jlav18...@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
<mi...@tauzero.co.uk> on Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:09:27 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
1880's I believe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Crazy
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<mi...@tauzero.co.uk> on Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:09:27 awoke Nicholas from
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Crazy
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maus
Aug 8, 2022, 6:04:24 AM8/8/22
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On 2022-08-08, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:09:27 +0100
>> Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>>
>> It was in the charts in the early 1960s, apparently penned around
>> 1880 which surprised me.
>
> ! Me too.
>
>
I had the feeling that it was of Scottish origin. The way that
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:09:27 +0100
>> Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember my brother, two years younger than me, learning a snog at
>>> fpubby called "Football crazy" which had the chorus "He's football
>>> crazy/he's football mad/The football it has taken away/the little bit of
>>
>> It was in the charts in the early 1960s, apparently penned around
>> 1880 which surprised me.
>
> ! Me too.
>
>
Glaswegians are football fanatics.
maus
Aug 8, 2022, 6:05:57 AM8/8/22
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On 2022-08-08, RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/08/2022 09:34, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
>>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>>
>> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
>
> That's the one I was gooving-of, but I disunforgot its name at the time
> innit.
>
> There are loads of just double tautological placenames before the
> horizon droops off the edge of the whirled.
>
the river Avon (presumably from celtic Abhainn)
> On 08/08/2022 09:34, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
>>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>>
>> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
>
> That's the one I was gooving-of, but I disunforgot its name at the time
> innit.
>
> There are loads of just double tautological placenames before the
> horizon droops off the edge of the whirled.
>
maus
Aug 8, 2022, 6:11:41 AM8/8/22
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On 2022-08-08, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> John Williamson said:
>> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
>>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>>
>> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
>
> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten. Again, I
> think there are examples with a 3rd one, but me mind's a blank, guv.
>
>
Vision of Svedish ladies enjoying the sun around Midsummer.
>> On 07/08/2022 22:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
>>> Where languages ave changed in areas it is not unusual to have a hill
>>> called (in translation) hillhillhill and so-on.
>>>
>> The best example I have heard about in England is Torpenhow Hill.
>
> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten. Again, I
> think there are examples with a 3rd one, but me mind's a blank, guv.
>
>
Names of lakes, rivers and hills would be very old, even going back to
preceltic times. I once saw a thesis from Queens University, Belfast,
that examined placenames in the Leix-Offaly area for unique traces of a
pre-celtic language there. I cannot refind it.
Brian Gaff
Aug 8, 2022, 6:57:59 AM8/8/22
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More to the point, who thought such a tune appropriate for an Ice Cream van.
Indeed who decides?
I have heard one around here that sounds like the old period signal of
Vatican radio on the short wave in the 60s, one that plays Popeye the Sailor
man, I've never had Spinach flavoured Creamy, and one that is a nondescript
tinkling thing that could be almost anything.
I guess one has to be careful of copyright infringement, after all
Greensleeves author is not going to sue, are they?
Brian
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Indeed who decides?
I have heard one around here that sounds like the old period signal of
Vatican radio on the short wave in the 60s, one that plays Popeye the Sailor
man, I've never had Spinach flavoured Creamy, and one that is a nondescript
tinkling thing that could be almost anything.
I guess one has to be careful of copyright infringement, after all
Greensleeves author is not going to sue, are they?
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Aug 8, 2022, 6:59:30 AM8/8/22
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I've never got it to work on anything but recordings and radio stations. If
you just hum a tune its useless.
Brian
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you just hum a tune its useless.
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Aug 8, 2022, 7:05:20 AM8/8/22
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In those days most players were punch drunk heading leather balls about.
Incidentally elsewhere in this thread, somebody mentioned the clarinet, and
I have a recollection of Joni Mitchell on a bit of a guilt trip talking
about somebody playing for free while she charged a lot of money at concert
halls.
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Incidentally elsewhere in this thread, somebody mentioned the clarinet, and
I have a recollection of Joni Mitchell on a bit of a guilt trip talking
about somebody playing for free while she charged a lot of money at concert
halls.
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nev young
Aug 8, 2022, 7:14:56 AM8/8/22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7RwDBywGQM
Got to admit I grooved it were Lonnie Donegan but seems I was wrang!
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Aug 8, 2022, 8:22:40 AM8/8/22
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Ice cream van chimes are usually bought by the van ownere as a package
with the audio hardware. They used to be on tape cartridges, but are now
either an on board flash memory chip or a memory stick. There tends to
be an agreement that a new van in an area makes sure they do not use the
same chime as anyb of the others,
The creators make sure the they have a licence for the tune used, and
for the same reason, tend to use proprietary formats for the media.
I don't know how screen reader friendly this page is, and there is an
advert on another page by one van owner who offers about 50 different
chimes for your event.
http://www.microminiatures.com/chimes.html
On 08/08/2022 11:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
> More to the point, who thought such a tune appropriate for an Ice Cream van.
> Indeed who decides?
> I have heard one around here that sounds like the old period signal of
> Vatican radio on the short wave in the 60s, one that plays Popeye the Sailor
> man, I've never had Spinach flavoured Creamy, and one that is a nondescript
> tinkling thing that could be almost anything.
> I guess one has to be careful of copyright infringement, after all
> Greensleeves author is not going to sue, are they?
> Brian
>
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with the audio hardware. They used to be on tape cartridges, but are now
either an on board flash memory chip or a memory stick. There tends to
be an agreement that a new van in an area makes sure they do not use the
same chime as anyb of the others,
The creators make sure the they have a licence for the tune used, and
for the same reason, tend to use proprietary formats for the media.
I don't know how screen reader friendly this page is, and there is an
advert on another page by one van owner who offers about 50 different
chimes for your event.
http://www.microminiatures.com/chimes.html
On 08/08/2022 11:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
> More to the point, who thought such a tune appropriate for an Ice Cream van.
> Indeed who decides?
> I have heard one around here that sounds like the old period signal of
> Vatican radio on the short wave in the 60s, one that plays Popeye the Sailor
> man, I've never had Spinach flavoured Creamy, and one that is a nondescript
> tinkling thing that could be almost anything.
> I guess one has to be careful of copyright infringement, after all
> Greensleeves author is not going to sue, are they?
> Brian
>
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John Williamson
Aug 8, 2022, 8:45:38 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 13:22, John Williamson wrote:
> Ice cream van chimes
Now, of course, they are all digital, but the very early ones were a
clockwork musical box with an amplifier.
> Ice cream van chimes
Now, of course, they are all digital, but the very early ones were a
clockwork musical box with an amplifier.
RustyHinge
Aug 8, 2022, 10:03:45 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 11:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I've never got it to work on anything but recordings and radio stations. If
> you just hum a tune its useless.
Well, are you sure it's not your huming? There's a certain presenter at
> I've never got it to work on anything but recordings and radio stations. If
> you just hum a tune its useless.
night on R5Live who sometimes 'sings'/hums a ditty and it's *quick!* -
reach for the mute button!
John Williamson
Aug 8, 2022, 10:26:08 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 15:03, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 08/08/2022 11:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> I've never got it to work on anything but recordings and radio
>> stations. If
>> you just hum a tune its useless.
>
> Well, are you sure it's not your huming? There's a certain presenter at
> night on R5Live who sometimes 'sings'/hums a ditty and it's *quick!* -
> reach for the mute button!
>
They do summat simla on Aunty's local rajo round ere. "Rob's humdinger"
> On 08/08/2022 11:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> I've never got it to work on anything but recordings and radio
>> stations. If
>> you just hum a tune its useless.
>
> Well, are you sure it's not your huming? There's a certain presenter at
> night on R5Live who sometimes 'sings'/hums a ditty and it's *quick!* -
> reach for the mute button!
>
competition on the breakfast show. He is completely tone deaf and you
have to guess the tune. It's amazing how many people get it and how quickly.
Andrew Marshall
Aug 8, 2022, 10:42:36 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 10:06, Richard Robinson wrote:
> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
...and I must admit to wondering how Loch Lochy got its name.
> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
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Nicholas D. Richards
Aug 8, 2022, 11:24:52 AM8/8/22
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In article <tcr7cr$v1p1$1...@dont-email.me>, Andrew Marshall <news@y-
ddraenog-goch.org.uk> on Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 15:42:34 awoke Nicholas
ddraenog-goch.org.uk> on Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 15:42:34 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>On 08/08/2022 10:06, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
>
>...and I must admit to wondering how Loch Lochy got its name.
>
From the River Lochy or does the river get its name from the loch?
>
>> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
>
>...and I must admit to wondering how Loch Lochy got its name.
>
chr...@privacy.net
Aug 8, 2022, 11:34:41 AM8/8/22
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On 08/08/2022 13:45, John Williamson wrote:
> On 08/08/2022 13:22, John Williamson wrote:
>> Ice cream van chimes
>
> Now, of course, they are all digital, but the very early ones were a
> clockwork musical box with an amplifier.
>
>
We have a local scrap merchant hooze veehickle plays Mr Softee..
> On 08/08/2022 13:22, John Williamson wrote:
>> Ice cream van chimes
>
> Now, of course, they are all digital, but the very early ones were a
> clockwork musical box with an amplifier.
>
>
Now I wonder how he came by that!
Chris
Richard Robinson
Aug 8, 2022, 11:38:15 AM8/8/22
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Andrew Marshall said:
> On 08/08/2022 10:06, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
>
> ...and I must admit to wondering how Loch Lochy got its name.
Parhaps it's a very lochy sort of loch ?
> On 08/08/2022 10:06, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> I used to have a linguist mate who muttered about Loch Vatten.
>
> ...and I must admit to wondering how Loch Lochy got its name.
RustyHinge
Aug 8, 2022, 12:06:03 PM8/8/22