Absence of spam
Guy King
panhandlers seem to have been slow off the mark this time.
Wonder why?
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And the word was Aardvark.
Whitedog
wrote:
>So far I've not had any dodgy emails about New Orleans - the usual
>panhandlers seem to have been slow off the mark this time.
>
>Wonder why?
With any luck, nobody except half a million spammers drowned.
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"Whitedog" <btaySPAML...@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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Reason no spam? Merkins ain't smart enuf to think of it... (or much else
... )
Andrew Marshall
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>So far I've not had any dodgy emails about New Orleans - the usual
>panhandlers seem to have been slow off the mark this time.
I've just had the one so far. eDomn hfr Brightmail, which has prolly
caught thousands of 'em. Before they introduced it, I had something like
400 or more spams a day; these days I get perhaps ten a day, if that.
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Guy King
from Andrew Marshall <g8...@g8bur.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> I've just had the one so far. eDomn hfr Brightmail, which has prolly
> caught thousands of 'em. Before they introduced it, I had something like
> 400 or more spams a day; these days I get perhaps ten a day, if that.
I don't know what Zetnet use but it seems to jbex. I've been using this
address unmunged in public groups for nearly a decade and I only get
about ten a day, EmmEyeMike excluded, of course.
Guy King
from sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:
> > I don't know what Zetnet use but it seems to jbex. I've been using this
> > address unmunged in public groups for nearly a decade and I only get
> > about ten a day, EmmEyeMike excluded, of course.
> You get CorleyCrap to your email addie? There's posh!
No - it just appears in the KF so it gets counted as spam as far as I'm
concerned.
Oh, and I had a letter from the Office of the Information Commissioner
saying that they'd written to a UK firm which had spammed me instructing
them to supress any further mailings to me and also pointing out that
it's illegal anyway.
I also am in correspondence with a firm one of whose agents spammed me.
They took it surprisingly seriously and the agent was bollocked. He in
turn bollocked the list supplier for including my name on their list as
a commercial email address. Or at least, he tried to. They're not
answering so he's got Trading Standards involved chasing 'em for not
providing goods as described.
Teehee!
Guy King
from "Rab C Nesbitt" <rab_c_nes...@btinternet.com> contains these
words:
> Reason no spam? Merkins ain't smart enuf to think of it... (or much else
> .... )
I've also not heard any New Orleans jokes, either. Apart from "George
Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
suicide plumber."
Krane
guy....@zetnet.co.uk says...
> I've also not heard any New Orleans jokes, either. Apart from "George
> Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
> suicide plumber."
Me bruvver sent some good news from New Orleans, his missing jbexers
have all turned up alive. TAAW their families, including the 2 week old
baby.
--
Krane
karen at lesbiangardens dot net
Kate Dicey
Coo! <Large grin> Tiz good to get good news from there.
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Guy King
from Marc Wilson <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> contains these words:
> >Teehee!
> Respec'
Beware the bored Skipweasel.
Sena
must have been very worrited.
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where common sense dictates.
Whitedog
<E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:
>In uk.rec.sheds, (Whitedog) wrote in
><mfluh1pggu8i0c8g0...@4ax.com>::
>
>>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:53:50 +0100, Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>So far I've not had any dodgy emails about New Orleans - the usual
>>>panhandlers seem to have been slow off the mark this time.
>>>
>>>Wonder why?
>>
>>With any luck, nobody except half a million spammers drowned.
>
>No, that would be Miami, surely?
There was a time when I would say "I wouldn't wish it on my worst
enemy" but that was before the days of spammers.
Krane
arjfatcym...@privacy.net says...
> oior...@hotmail.com said...
> > In article <3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk>,
> > guy....@zetnet.co.uk says...
> >
> > > I've also not heard any New Orleans jokes, either. Apart from "George
> > > Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
> > > suicide plumber."
> >
> > Me bruvver sent some good news from New Orleans, his missing jbexers
> > have all turned up alive. TAAW their families, including the 2 week old
> > baby.
> >
> Phew! Big, *BIG* hugs to all concerned. Espeshly to James, 'cos he
> must have been very worrited.
Last I heard he was looking forward to a long, uninterrupted kip.
Keith
<E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> writes
>In uk.rec.sheds, (Guy King) wrote in
><3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk>::
>
>>The message <431f68b8$0$1321$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>
>>from "Rab C Nesbitt" <rab_c_nes...@btinternet.com> contains these
>>words:
>>
>>> Reason no spam? Merkins ain't smart enuf to think of it... (or much else
>>> .... )
>>
>>I've also not heard any New Orleans jokes, either. Apart from "George
>>Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
>>suicide plumber."
>
>
>Headline: Katrina and the Waves.
Support act: Wet, Wet, Wet
--
Keith
coj
> Last I heard he was looking forward to a long, uninterrupted kip.
IRTA skip
Tony Davison
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:53:50 +0100, Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>So far I've not had any dodgy emails about New Orleans - the usual
>>panhandlers seem to have been slow off the mark this time.
>>
>>Wonder why?
>
> With any luck, nobody except half a million spammers drowned.
I've had a guy(not Guy either of them) who can be a customer of mine, if
I ain't paying attention complaining that his (paid for) news server has
been down for a week. This of course is my fault.
To save hassle I did a whois (after a ping and a traceroute both failed)
on said server and guess where it was located. Not N'Awlins but very
close. So I suggested he send them a letter asking for a rebate.
--
Big Tone
Richard Robinson
>>>
>>>Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
>>>suicide plumber."
>>
>>And the "benefits concert line-up" ones?
>>
>>Headline: Katrina and the Waves.
> Support act: Wet, Wet, Wet
*snort*
And any number of old blues people from the Bad Old Days when Life Were
'ard. Been there, done that, sung about it already.
Perhaps it's because it kind of challenges the imagination. I expect they'll
come as people get used to it (whatever that means).
The below, again, is not a joke. I'm sorry, people, I'm sorry,
I wish I could, but.
This thing seems to be popping up all over -
http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Whitedog
wrote:
>I've had a guy(not Guy either of them) who can be a customer of mine, if
>I ain't paying attention complaining that his (paid for) news server has
>been down for a week. This of course is my fault.
>To save hassle I did a whois (after a ping and a traceroute both failed)
>on said server and guess where it was located. Not N'Awlins but very
>close. So I suggested he send them a letter asking for a rebate.
A friend of my brother narrowly avoided being in Arj Orleans by
managing to break his ankle on his wedding day. Apparently he squatted
to become the same height as the little bridesmaids for a photo and it
just snapped. EEk, but less eek than being in Norleenz.
Sena
> The below, again, is not a joke. I'm sorry, people, I'm sorry,
> I wish I could, but.
>
> This thing seems to be popping up all over -
> http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>
> I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
> picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>
Lizz Holmans
<arjfatcym...@privacy.net> wrote:
>rich...@privacy.net said...
>> The below, again, is not a joke. I'm sorry, people, I'm sorry,
>> I wish I could, but.
>>
>> This thing seems to be popping up all over -
>> http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>>
>> I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
>> picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>>
>Ye gods.
Yep, ol' Shrub really shpxrq up when he sent the Nawlins National
Guard off to protect us from imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
The police were alreay overwhelmed or dying, so the N.G. is next in
line for peace-keeping.
Local cops in the South are not known for their couth, but that is a
generalization. A couple have saved my butt a few times. My brother is
an ex-police chief, and I have every confidence that his officers
wouldn't act like that. Well, at least Dennis wouldn't.
LizzH.
--
I was too far out all my life
Richard Robinson
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:10:29 +0100, Sena
>>> The below, again, is not a joke. I'm sorry, people, I'm sorry,
>>> I wish I could, but.
>>>
>>> This thing seems to be popping up all over -
>>> http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>>>
>>> I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
>>> picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>>>
>>Ye gods.
>
> Yep, ol' Shrub really shpxrq up when he sent the Nawlins National
> Guard off to protect us from imaginary weapons of mass destruction.
> The police were alreay overwhelmed or dying, so the N.G. is next in
> line for peace-keeping.
Given the number of stories about people trying to help and being told to
go away, maybe they wouldn't even have made any difference.
And the use that was made of the resources they did decide to use ...
http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
one of the reasons [ ? official explanation, anyway ] for the
pause was, that the army waited 2 days to build up sufficient
"ovewhelming force" to "storm" the conference centre. And those
were the people who followed the instructions. "They went in and
took this convention center down". And there was me thinking the
people were waiting to be rescued. As you say, it's a different
language.
Gosh, isn't life complicated if you don't own a car, eh ?
Richard Bos
> This thing seems to be popping up all over -
> http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>
> I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
> picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
> more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
Oh, I believe it, all right. Yes, as he writes, we did get to see images
of the National Guard marching in to "save" the city. Looking like
nothing so much as a garrison of Storm Troopers[34], all similar, all
expressionless, all set to brainlessly shoot at whatever they got orders
to shoot.
The theory would be that they'd shoot to kill at plunderers, but _only_
at plunderers who looted non-food items. Predictably, the reports about
how succesful and humane this policy has been (not to mention about how
well the food exception has been honoured) are varied: Bushie-boy calls
it a great success, anyone actually inside New Orleans seems to describe
it as genocide of the poor and desperate.
Richard
[34] Pick your own evil empire, any would be applicable
Richard Robinson
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:08:01 -0000, Richard Robinson
>>
> General Thingummy said
>
>>http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
>
> No hsti, Sherlock!
Quite.
What I can't jbex out is, did they conspire to shpx up
or did they shpx up the conspiracy ?
>>Gosh, isn't life complicated if you don't own a car, eh ?
>
> You'd better get one straight away, Richard, just to be on the safe
> side.
I probably could find the zbarl if I ever did decide I Really needed one.
Lucky old me, eh ?
Do my little bit for global warming _and_ improve the chances of it being
other peeps that die in the fallout. The offer you can't refuse.
Thobut, some of the zbarl I used to spend on keeping a car running
( s/nn/st/ ) now goes to an internet connection, so I'm feeding a power
station instead. On balance, I reckon it keeps me in more touch with
more people.
Austin Shackles
<rich...@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>*snort*
>And any number of old blues people from the Bad Old Days when Life Were
>'ard. Been there, done that, sung about it already.
interestingly, Arena (shown on beeb4 a night or two ago) had a prog all
about highway 61, which goes from Canada down to New Orleans...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Chuck didn't reply, so George swung round in his saddle. He could just
see Chuck's face, a white oval turned toward the sky.
'Look,' whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven.
(There is always a last time for everything.)
Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out"
Arthur C. Clarke, "The 9 billion names of God"
Austin Shackles
<rich...@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>
>I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
>picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
's 404 now.
Richard Robinson
Yes.
I wonder what's going to happen with the survivors ? It seems possible to
imagine that there may be an insignificant number of ungrateful malcontents
treacherously fabricating hysterical and ridiculous stories about not
everyone being happy in this best of all possible worlds. I do hope no-one
will be so foolish as to pay any attention to such dangerous nonsense ...
As of today, the city seems to have been given over to the "private
security" firms. Just, coincidentally, as it's reported they may be
on the verge of getting pushed out of Iraq. There's a thing.
Richard Robinson
> On or around Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:43:34 -0000, Richard Robinson
><rich...@privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>This thing seems to be popping up all over -
>>http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>>
>>I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
>>picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>>more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
>
> 's 404 now.
Goodness me, so it is. There's a thing.
never mind, try http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfsocialists/3687.html
Still up as of now, anyway ...
Guy King
from Austin Shackles <austin...@ddol-las.net> contains these words:
> >This thing seems to be popping up all over -
> >http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
> >
> >I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
> >picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
> >more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
> 's 404 now.
However, thanks to Google's cache it's till here...
http://tinyurl.com/93clp
Guy King
from Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:
> And the use that was made of the resources they did decide to use ...
> http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
I know it's a transcript, but it ain't harf hard reading - they're none
too articulate, these military types.
Richard Robinson
> The message <11i2r8h...@corp.supernews.com>
> from Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:
>
>> And the use that was made of the resources they did decide to use ...
>> http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
>
> I know it's a transcript, but it ain't harf hard reading - they're none
> too articulate, these military types.
I'm not sure. The sentences are all well structured, unike the clause soup
you tend to see in transcripts of politicians.
I mean, yes I agree it's not easy reading. But not that it's
inarticulate. It occurs to me that a General must be very thoroughly
trained in tvivat and haqrefgnaqvat beqref ? So it's a dialect,
a technical language that has a requirement for unambiguity,
kind of halfway to a programming language, rather than a "natural"
(human) language. Perhaps that relates to the way that the meaning
it carries doesn't seem very natural or human, either.
If the only tool you have is an army, every problem looks lke an enemy.
Try
http://respectfulofotters.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_respectfulofotters_archive.html#112619072250574124
for a pictorial commentary from the other side of the divide.
Sorry about the long link.
Richard Robinson
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:09:13 -0000, Richard Robinson
><rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>ry
>>http://respectfulofotters.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_respectfulofotters_archive.html#112619072250574124
>>for a pictorial commentary from the other side of the divide.
>>Sorry about the long link.
>
Yes, I should probably have had a look at tinyurl.
Sena
> > No hsti, Sherlock!
>
> Quite.
>
> What I can't jbex out is, did they conspire to shpx up
> or did they shpx up the conspiracy ?
>
Richard Robinson
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:08:10 -0000, Richard Robinson
>>>>http://respectfulofotters.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_respectfulofotters_archive.html#112619072250574124
>>>>for a pictorial commentary from the other side of the divide.
>>>>Sorry about the long link.
>>>
>>> Horrifying.
>>
>>Yes, I should probably have had a look at tinyurl.
>
<Richard tries to look innocent>
Austin Shackles
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>The message <5s03i1t8234bho03g...@4ax.com>
>from Austin Shackles <austin...@ddol-las.net> contains these words:
>
>> >This thing seems to be popping up all over -
>> >http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
>> >
>> >I was inclined to doubt it at first, but I've seen various attempts at
>> >picking it over and it seems to stand up, so far. I expect it's due for
>> >more of a bashing over the next few days, though. We shall see.
>
>> 's 404 now.
>
>However, thanks to Google's cache it's till here...
>http://tinyurl.com/93clp
well done google. at least some of the world is still free.
I'm inclined to post it all over the web, for some reason. If there's one
thing worse than the situation there, it's the blatant attempts to censor
and limit information. several sites which make the regime or the disaster
relief look bad (not that hard to do, I have to admit) have unaccountably
vanished from their original source...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
JonG
>>Me bruvver sent some good news from New Orleans, his missing jbexers
>>have all turned up alive. TAAW their families, including the 2 week old
>>baby.
>>
>
> Phew! Big, *BIG* hugs to all concerned. Espeshly to James, 'cos he
> must have been very worrited.
Wotshesaid.
--
JonG (Self -Preservation Society No. 37 3/4)
The Shed: A Shelter from Pigs on the Wing
JonG
>>Reason no spam? Merkins ain't smart enuf to think of it... (or much else
>>.... )
>
>
> I've also not heard any New Orleans jokes, either. Apart from "George
> Bush today held a press conference in which he blamed the flooding on a
> suicide plumber."
>
Why bother? No sick joke could beat the response of the authorities,
beaten before you could start.
Ali Hopkins
"Krane" <oior...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8a58e54...@news.ntlworld.com...
> Me bruvver sent some good news from New Orleans, his missing jbexers
> have all turned up alive. TAAW their families, including the 2 week old
> baby.
That's splendid, it really is.
Ali
Guy King
from Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:
> Given the number of stories about people trying to help and being told to
> go away, maybe they wouldn't even have made any difference.
On another drift...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lieofthecentury.html
A nice bit of anti-war polemic. I wonder if they'll get anywhere with
the final paragraph....
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
-- "The Declaration of Independence"
Richard Robinson
> On 9 Sep,
>
>> The message <11i2r8h...@corp.supernews.com>
>> from Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:
>>
>> > And the use that was made of the resources they did decide to use ...
>> > http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
>>
>> I know it's a transcript, but it ain't harf hard reading - they're none
>> too articulate, these military types.
>>
> don't add up, even allowing for press exageration. One bit was it would take
> 3 to 4 days to get 10000 extra NGs in at a rate of 7000 a day. Something must
> be killing off about 4000 a day, or are they deserting? If it wasn't so
> serious I'd say they couldn't betnavfr a cvff up in a brewery.
Even when they don't have to steal it first.
Andy Spragg
>If the only tool you have is an army, every problem looks lke an enemy.
Oi loikes that, Mr R (hello again BTW, I gather you've been in the
garden for a while, like me). Is it your own? Can I sig it, with
hattribution, if so please?
Richard Robinson
Hi, Andy.
By all means. Attribute or not as you like, I'm not bothered.
"In the garden"'s about it. Theoretically, trying to write code. And then I
get pissed off at that 'cos the sun's shining and it's a shame to waste it,
so sit in the garden for a while. Then start to feel vaguely guilty so back
in and maybe kill another bug or two. Notice the sun's still looking good,
go out for a little wander, have a "brilliant" idea, discover it wasn't that
good really, sit in the sun for a while ... round and round. A quiet life,
but mine own. Oh, and notice the sun isn't shining any more, Drink.
and I'll get this abstrad pogrom jbexvat eventually if it kills ... er,
no, if it kills me I won't will I ? It probably won't, though.
Richard Eney
Richard Robinson <newsre...@spamtrap.qualmograph.org.uk> wrote:
>Br n said:
>> Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:
>>>
>>> > And the use that was made of the resources they did decide to use ...
>>> > http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050903-3850.html
>>>
>>> I know it's a transcript, but it ain't harf hard reading - they're none
>>> too articulate, these military types.
>>>
>> My mathematical skills were severely tested wiv the numbers quoted, they just
>> don't add up, even allowing for press exageration. One bit was it would take
>> 3 to 4 days to get 10000 extra NGs in at a rate of 7000 a day. Something must
>> be killing off about 4000 a day, or are they deserting? If it wasn't so
>> serious I'd say they couldn't betnavfr a cvff up in a brewery.
>
>Even when they don't have to steal it first.
There's burnout. Quite a lot of the N'awlins police are out of action from
stress.
=Tamar
Ali Hopkins
"Richard Eney" <dic...@radix.net> wrote in message
news:11i4nuf...@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <11i454k...@corp.supernews.com>,
> There's burnout. Quite a lot of the N'awlins police are out of action
> from
> stress.
Hmph. I don't wish to decry their efforts, or the undoubted distress it
causes them; but I do wonder how come my grandfather managed to be a
fireman, in London, all through the Blitz, with no resulting PTSD. And then
there's me mother, who was doing up to six matinee and evening shows a
*day*, and also fighting fires in the theatre. She made the mistake of
trying to douse an incendiary with a stirrup pump and bouquet of water on
the roof of the Windmill.... her eyebrows never did quite grow back!
Ok, enough fogeyness.
Ali
Ali Hopkins
"Sn!pe" <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1h2o50o.eaisnm1vyo9exN%sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk...
> Ali Hopkins <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmph. I don't wish to decry their efforts, or the undoubted distress it
>> causes them; but I do wonder how come my grandfather managed to be a
>> fireman, in London, all through the Blitz, with no resulting PTSD. And
>> then
>> there's me mother, who was doing up to six matinee and evening shows a
>> *day*, and also fighting fires in the theatre. She made the mistake of
>> trying to douse an incendiary with a stirrup pump and bouquet of water on
>> the roof of the Windmill.... her eyebrows never did quite grow back!
>
She was indeed; she was the resident comedienne, and ingenue singer. Her
clothes stayed on at all times. Her stage name was Charmian Innes - and
she's still alive, of course. There's a fillum coming out shrtoyl with Judi
Dench and Bob Hoskins called _Mrs Henderson Presents_, which is about the
history of the 'Mill. Mother has done the consultancy on it, which is Cool.
I think she's one of the few survivirs who still has marbles, memories and
press cuttings and photos.
>> Ok, enough fogeyness.
>
> No chance, not in here; fogeyness is Wot We Do Best! (Hooray!)
Oh, yus. It is an art form, I think!
Ali
Ron Clark
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>
>She was indeed; she was the resident comedienne, and ingenue singer. Her
>clothes stayed on at all times. Her stage name was Charmian Innes - and
>she's still alive, of course
I remember the name. Google gives 100's of hits, TAAW
"Just a minute", etc etc
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"Ron Clark" <r...@spamall.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:20:59 +0100, "Ali Hopkins"
> <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote this (or the missive included this):
>
>>
>>clothes stayed on at all times. Her stage name was Charmian Innes - and
>>she's still alive, of course
>
> I remember the name. Google gives 100's of hits, TAAW
> "Just a minute", etc etc
>
Yup, she did a couple of the very early ones. The radio programme that went
on the longest for her, was probably Petticoat Line. I used to go to various
recordings, which were great fun. She did mostly radio and stage work, TV
was relatively in its infancy in her heyday. Made for an interesting
childhood; I got very blasé about Ac-TORs, and still am. I've got a pretty
neat set of autographs, too.
We're a bit of a theatrical family on her side - if you look at IMDB for
George Mozart, he was a vaudeville artiste, and a pretty successful one in
his day. He was her grandfather.
Ali
Richard Robinson
> In article <11i454k...@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>>
>>> My mathematical skills were severely tested wiv the numbers quoted, they just
>>> don't add up, even allowing for press exageration. One bit was it would take
>>> 3 to 4 days to get 10000 extra NGs in at a rate of 7000 a day. Something must
>>> be killing off about 4000 a day, or are they deserting? If it wasn't so
>>> serious I'd say they couldn't betnavfr a cvff up in a brewery.
>>
>>Even when they don't have to steal it first.
>
> There's burnout. Quite a lot of the N'awlins police are out of action from
> stress.
Or just plain missing in the flood, of course. And some have killed
themselves.
Richard Robinson
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:41:30 -0000, Richard Robinson
><rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>Richard Eney said:
>
>>> There's burnout. Quite a lot of the N'awlins police are out of action from
>>> stress.
>>
>>Or just plain missing in the flood, of course. And some have killed
>>themselves.
>
> have been prevented if they'd got their raess in gear more quickly.
> How despairing they must have been to actually kill themselves. It's
> scarcely credible.
Oh, and a little point I bumped into (ow!) a few days back, about the
National-Guard-being-in-Iraq thing; they were pulled out of their ordinary
jobs into the NG, of course. And quite a lot of those jobs were police,
firefighters, medical, etc etc.
> have been prevented if they'd got their raess in gear more quickly.
Worse. Much worse than that. *thick* allyfoil hats on, please.
Someone please show me why this must be wrong ? Please ?
The reason for the Federal stuff not happening quicker is given as,
that so-and-so locals didn't request so-and-so forms of thisthatandtheother.
Something called an Insurgency Act is mentioned, and Martial Law and GOKW -
they didn't fill in the right forms, basically. Ok, beaurocracy happens.
But what that seems to have been about is that Bush was refusing to do
anything until they signed forms that would give him 100% control over the
reconstruction. ie hand out all those lovely ?$60billion so far? to his
friends and their corporations. They were held hostage to provide leverage
while they squabbled over how to divvy up the loot. And of course it's all
worth so much more, now that they can clear Those People off it. Ethnic
cleansing.
Okay, and I've got a gig this evening, I have to try and get this horrible
filth out of my head for a bit. See you tomorrow ...
Befunge Sudoku
said:
>
> and I'll get this abstrad pogrom jbexvat eventually if it kills ... er,
> no, if it kills me I won't will I ? It probably won't, though.
>
--
I'll run a diagnostic
Richard Robinson
A few.
a) It's a scratch-my-own-itches thing, no-one is cnlvat me to do it so I
don't have any deadlines.
b) Writing pointyclicky GUI stuff. I haven't done of that since I gave up on
W3.1, never liked it anyway, and anyway the system interactions just *are*
a lot more complicated than a drop-through cli thing. That's where most of
the time & hassle is, the actual data stuff's been pretty good for ages.
c) I'm a rotten programmer. I can do the details fine, but I always seem
to come up with 3 or 4 wrong designs & bad ideas and then shuffle stuff
around until it mutates into something simple. Which works for me, kind of,
but it's slow & painful.
It's not that big a thing, really, or shouldn't be. It's currently called
TuneMangler (for which I Blame Ye Shedde), because it proposes to be a
file-manager analogy for tunes. Oh, and another hangup is to write the help
pages. They're in html, so if I'd done them I could point you at a screed on
why it's needed. ...
ABC music-as-text. It's a victim of its own success, in a lot of ways. Type
tunes up, in a text editor, and there are programs to turn this into tadpoles,
midi, tab, etc. Fine. The specs are a so-many-to-choose-from mess, dialectal
incompatabilities, but to hell, it more-or-less jbexeth on the level of
dealing with a tune.
But there isn't much (for Linux) that even begins to think about the file level.
An ABC file is either a printable document (the first implementation was in TeX,
and there are vestigial whatnots from that, that mostly just provoke
incomprehension these days) or it's just a place to slap tunes into, a database.
And the 2 usages tend to get in the way of each other, & need separating.
Also the idea of global default field values, which knackers the possibility
of dealing with a tune correctly using text editor macros; but can save a
vast amount of typing. So something needs to handle that coherently.
Mainly, a pointyclicky database-like view, search/sort/filter & drop-down
lists, kind of stuff, that understands the format it's dealing with. Plus
a specialised editor, likewise.
I have a pile of tunes needing typed up that gives me the horrors
every time I think about it, this is all displacement activity to hide from
those tuits. If you're typing up several hundred tunes, anything that offers
to shave a handful of keystrokes and a few seconds off each one can seem
worth it.
Oh, and character sets, of course. I have a few thousand tunes stashed on
the hard disk. Among that lot, there is *one character* which doesn't exist
in latin1 ... which is all it takes. (I have a suspicion the whole lot might
fit into latin2, but I haven't tested it properly yet). This box is utf8,
and the code is fullscale unicode, but no other ABC program speaks either
of those, yet ... I want to turn this into a problem for them.
Oh, and interconvertability between ABC and the XMLs would be _really_ nice.
And so on.
wxWidgets is pretty good as a framework toolkit thingy. There isn't really a
lot of tidying up left to do <hollow laughter> before Phase 2, which is
to look for volunteers from the M$/mac worlds, and jbex through the stuff
about getting it running on those. I have no idea what that might involve,
yet. And then brace for the bug-reports.
Richard Robinson
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:05:49 -0000, Richard Robinson
><rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Okay, and I've got a gig this evening, I have to try and get this horrible
>>filth out of my head for a bit. See you tomorrow ...
>
>
> Have a good time, Richard. I've got nothing more to take my mind off it
> than a cricket match bogged down in yet more water.
Ta.
It was nice. Wasn't a big deal, just the back room in the pub down the
hill, audience of maybe a dozen and a half, which was enough to make
it look comfortably full. But it's a nice place, in a strange sort of
way, and I've been wanting to play there for a while, tiny-room gigs can
be fun. And the conversation levels were much lower than they often are,
peeps actually seeming to listen and enjoy. And I must say, I think we
played rather nicely.
Mostly the same stuff that's been on http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/ratband/
for ages, but it's kind of a lot more fluid live. We don't gig enough to
remember quite what we did last time, so it's always different.
I was a bit worried. Partly that that stuff in my head would get in
the way[1], but more because we haven't gigged for a year, or practised
for a month, what with other peeps doing the Summer Holidays thing.
But - there was a thread on uk.music.folk a few weeks ago, about how
every performer shpxf up occasionally but the mark of a Gehr Cebsrffvbany
is to carry on & cover up so the audience don't notice & keep on
enjoying. By which standard, we were brilliant. <evil grin>. Keep on
playing the tune even when you realise you've suddenly forgotten the
damn thing. Odd. How does that happen ? I played through it once and
it was fine, and on the second time through, I simply didn't know how
it went. Bizarre.
[1] Tony wrote the set-list a few weeks ago. By sheer coincidence, it ended
with a set of Cajun tunes. That was an interesting exercise. We played hell
out of them, you'll be glad to hear.
Mike Jones
> The second half was pretty good, TAAW, the arj conductor Paul Daniel
I had it on, but wasn't cnlvat zhpu nggragvba so was half-expecting a man in
a wig!
Ali Hopkins
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> Well I had a nice evening, TAAW. I'd forgotten that it was the Last
> Night of the Proms, and the earlier half of the programme had one of my
> Desert Island disc choices - Concerto de Aranjuez, played by John
> Williams, no less. They also had a wonderful Sharman countertenor and
> Walton's "Portsmouth Point" which I'd never heard before, but thoroughly
> enjoyed.
I got the impression that Williams' guitar was having trouble with the
humidity? He retuned at least once, and the last movement had a couple of
bum notes. Still lovely, though. And that counter tenor was utterly
sublime. Had a face like a rather earnest clerk, and from his not very open
jaw poured forth streams of sheer gold. The Walton is lovely, you should
hear the Marines do it. (Best military band in the world. Categorically.)
Other desert island choices; Vaughan Williams Variations on a Theme by
Thomas Tallis, the Rachmaninov Second, The Enema Variations, the DuPre Cello
concerto (yeah, she didn't write it, but hey), Saint Saens Orgue Symphony,
a bit of Bax and Finzi, more Walton, a modicum of Respighi, and
everything ever written by Jerry Goldsmith. And all my 80 or so Marine
Band CD's. That's too many, innit. And I'll take the Golden Bough, please,
Sue. Twelve volume version.
No Britten or G&S, please, I'd like a long and happy life.
>
> The second half was pretty good, TAAW, the arj conductor Paul Daniel had
> a real lightness of touch which made the audience shenanigans more
> bearable, or maybe I was just in such a good mood by then that I dint
> care.
>
I thought he treated it beautifully; that audience is superb if they like
you, but you can tell when they don't. He used a sort of equality. The Sea
Shanties were nicely done, I liked the addition back of the bugle calls,
but they should have been on bugles. By the Royal Marines. Not that I am
biased, you understand.
Ali
Ali Hopkins
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I did wonder where Debbie was.
Ali
Richard Robinson
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:49:00 -0000, Richard Robinson
>
> Well I had a nice evening, TAAW. I'd forgotten that it was the Last
> Night of the Proms, and the earlier half of the programme had one of my
> Desert Island disc choices - Concerto de Aranjuez
That's a vaguely familiar name, I think I used to have a recording when I
were Young. Can't call anything to mind about it now, though.
> Desert Island disc choices - Concerto de Aranjuez, played by John
> Williams, no less. They also had a wonderful Sharman countertenor and
> Walton's "Portsmouth Point" which I'd never heard before, but thoroughly
> enjoyed.
>
> The second half was pretty good, TAAW, the arj conductor Paul Daniel had
> a real lightness of touch which made the audience shenanigans more
> bearable, or maybe I was just in such a good mood by then that I dint
> care.
Splendid.
>>enjoying. By which standard, we were brilliant. <evil grin>. Keep on
>>playing the tune even when you realise you've suddenly forgotten the
>>damn thing. Odd. How does that happen ? I played through it once and
>>it was fine, and on the second time through, I simply didn't know how
>>it went. Bizarre.
>
> You're too nervous fer yer own good Richard. It takes a long time for
> yer fnigers to lose their touch, or maybe it was yer breathin' you were
> anxious about?
No. I wasn't anxious, by then. Maybe not quite enough, even. I simply looked
the tune up in my memory and it was there, first time, and then it just
wasn't, so I had to play other things without quite being sure they'd fit.
And without anyone else noticing I hadn't got a clue what I was doing
If I'd got nervous then, I'd really have been sunk. Mainly, I knew I could
trust the other 2 to pick it up so no-one'd notice a problem.
I think I disagree more generally, too. Nervous Is Good. That's what
practice is *for*. All that worrying about fingers, breathing, and so on -
you have to have done all that beforehand. Get as anxious as you can,
beforehand, and use it all up, worry about absolutely everything you can
possibly think of, and _deal_ with it until there's not enough left to worry
about. If you're still nervous about basic mechanical things like that when
it comes performance time, you are indeed in real trouble.
But of course, you can always find things you can't play. It's one of
the most fun things about it. (Things you can't play _yet_ ... for your
own favourite value of "things"). And of course, I don't always follow my
own advice, that would be boring. There's one set, in particular, which is
sometimes 2 tunes, and sometimes 3, onaccountof whether I can muster the
nerve to risk the 3rd-register stuff. Called the Acrobat, appropriately
enough, and to play it in public is dicing with performance death.
I am beginning to wonder what's up with my unforgettery. I'm finding I go
into tunes I really ought to know, and discovering I've run out of Clue
halfway through. I suspect it is a lack of practise showing up, I'm
spending too much time fiddling with organising computers-full of them
and not enough actually keeping the little darlings fed.
Fenny
enop...@hotmail.com said ...
>
> The second half was pretty good, TAAW, the arj conductor Paul Daniel had
> a real lightness of touch which made the audience shenanigans more
> bearable, or maybe I was just in such a good mood by then that I dint
> care.
>
did good. I hope he's back next year.
--
Fenny
Buffy: Giles, Faith has taken my body, and for all I know, she's taken it
to Mexico by now. I don't have time for bondage fun.
Guy King
from "Ali Hopkins" <fn...@dial.pipex.com> contains these words:
> Hmph. I don't wish to decry their efforts, or the undoubted distress it
> causes them; but I do wonder how come my grandfather managed to be a
> fireman, in London, all through the Blitz, with no resulting PTSD.
There's plenty that didn't. Read Spine Milligna's war memoirs.
Guy King
from sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:
> The Windmill; the one wot Never Closed? Respeck! Was she an Harteeste?
IRTA Hartebeest
Ali Hopkins
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> The message <3ofkmmF...@individual.net>
> from "Ali Hopkins" <fn...@dial.pipex.com> contains these words:
>
>> Hmph. I don't wish to decry their efforts, or the undoubted distress it
>> causes them; but I do wonder how come my grandfather managed to be a
>> fireman, in London, all through the Blitz, with no resulting PTSD.
>
> There's plenty that didn't. Read Spine Milligna's war memoirs.
>
I've got those someplace, but the house eats booken. I'll go hunt.
Ali
Befunge Sudoku
> >I got the impression that Williams' guitar was having trouble with the
> >humidity? He retuned at least once,
>
> wondered if he'd had ti use a substitute guitar for some reason.
Maybe didn't get a chance to let it reach the hall's ambient temp and
hum.
Richard Robinson
I kno Nothing, but a hall of that seriousness, I'd have (perhaps
idealistically) expected the backstage temperatures to be in sync.
Wouldn't every orchestra would be hell for the first half hour,
otherwise ? Or perhaps his car broke down and he came running in
from outside at the last minute ?
Cor, it's clammy out today, round here.
coj
> I woke up with a huge distended uvula this morning.
I bet everyone read that as something else. Well most of us, anyway. The
men particularly.
Hope you are better soom.
Fenny
> gentlemen in the choir who hadter discreetly keep mopping their brows,
> and we know from the outside cameras that it was hissing down in Hyde
> Park where the outdoor Prom was being held, so I daresay that the
> humidity was pretty high.
>
I can confirm that even on the coolest of days it can be d@mn hot inside
the Albert Hall. More so during the Proms, cos they pack more people in.
On hot days, it is almost unbearably sweaty.
--
Fenny
Willow: Did we win?
Buffy: Well, we averted the Apocalypse. I give us points for that.
coj
>>>I woke up with a huge distended uvula this morning.
>>
>>I bet everyone read that as something else. Well most of us, anyway. The
>>men particularly.
>
> Tut!
sorry, but it is the Shed. Frank, what did you read it as ?
>>Hope you are better soom.
>
> Ta. It feels a bit better, but I spect I shall haveter sleep sitting up
> again. Sigh!
I bet you can get the men of the howse to look after you. You deserve a
rest !
Guy King
from coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> > I woke up with a huge distended uvula this morning.
> I bet everyone read that as something else. Well most of us, anyway. The
> men particularly.
Nope, having had the huge distended uvula lark some time ago I knew what
she meant - and sympathise mightily.
Ideally, cold milk-shakes, but that's not a good idea with dire
Beatties. Lots of cold squash.
Richard Robinson
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:49:21 -0000, Richard Robinson
><rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>But of course, you can always find things you can't play. It's one of
>>the most fun things about it. (Things you can't play _yet_ ... for your
>>own favourite value of "things")
>
> when I unforgot how I never really *could* get the breathing right in
> "Oh Had I Jubal's lyre".
Yer. I don't know the piece, but I know what you mean ... and if you had,
you'd then need an extra few minutes practice every day to keep it right.
Technique has a maintenance cost.
> Useless even trying now of course, cos one of the things this lbooyd AF
> does is to knacker yer breathin' control, and anyway, I'm too old and
> too out of practice.
>
> I woke up with a huge distended uvula this morning. I put it down to
> snoring, but maybe I've been trying to sing in my sleep?
That's a good point. I shall remember it next time I receive complaints.
Sena
> I woke up with a huge distended uvula this morning.
>
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Sena
> The message <1h2o50o.eaisnm1vyo9exN%sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
> from sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:
>
> > The Windmill; the one wot Never Closed? Respeck! Was she an Harteeste?
>
> IRTA Hartebeest
>
Ali Hopkins
> Ha! HWDLAM's spent the afternoon asleep, not that I blame him after
> yesterday. I've just spent a coupla hours cookin' a hyuge beef stew
> which will be ready in about an hour's time.
Our Traditional Sunday Evening Meals are my spag bol in summer, and a beef
chilli stew with lemon dumples in winter. Seasons defined by clock change.
If I didden cook these things, Himself would make what I call cow eyes.
It's not a pretty sight, watching a groan man whimper.
Ali
Ali Hopkins
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> guy....@zetnet.co.uk said...
>> The message <1h2o50o.eaisnm1vyo9exN%sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
>> from sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:
>>
>> > The Windmill; the one wot Never Closed? Respeck! Was she an Harteeste?
>>
>> IRTA Hartebeest
>>
> I'm a g-nu
>
In July the sun is hot....
Ali
Guy King
from x(yz)enop...@hotmail.com contains these words:
> They're totally spoilt. It's my own fault. I tell them they'e lucky to
> get proper home-cooked food and that if they're not careful I shall make
> them live off takeaway pizza for a bit. That doesn't seem to worry them
> at all.
Mine don't grumble - they just fail to appreciate it!
Helen Deborah Vecht
> I'm not keen on the "Rio Grande" thing. I wonder why they chose it/
I don't like it either. I've sung it twice thobut.[0]
Two rasisins why they might have done it:
1) It were the centenary of the composer's birth (Constant Lambert, a
heavy-drinking dude who slunk in the Sitwell abode. Sacheverell Sitwell
wrote pome)
2) It were chosen for Proms 4 years ago, but cancelled when the Merkin
conductor had to reschedule the program at short notice.
[0] The score are one of the horridest bits of printing ever molished by
Oxford. No other editions are available, buggrit.
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Edgware.
Naqerj
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Naqerj
Sena
gitarist
concerto?