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Guy King

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May 14, 2008, 2:13:25 PM5/14/08
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Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.

Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

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Lister

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On Wed, 14 May 2008 19:13:25 +0100, Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
>Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
>but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
>other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

<G> Even *I*'v finished fpubby

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Rusty Hinge 2

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> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.

> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

Good-oh. Is Mohamed going to the mountain, or the mountain to Mohammed?

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Helen Deborah Vecht

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May 14, 2008, 2:41:51 PM5/14/08
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Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk>typed


> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.

> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

Well done that apprentice!

I was wondering about what sort of fpubby would consume the remainder of
his official childhood.

Do you want my Active Kids tokens?

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Guy King

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> Do you want my Active Kids tokens?

I need something to restrain some little git I just found sitting on
Inky's head outside the house. Unfortunately he's the sort of little
gobshite who has no connection with any sort of discipline. Clearly
wasn't bothered that I was intervening, wasn't scared of me (not that I
particularly want a ten year old to be scared of me, but he wasn't even
interested). I know damned well he's the sort who'd slash tyres or kick
over my arj wall before the cement sets - and all I could really do was
tell Inky never to go anywhere near him ever again.

Guy King

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> Well done. Let's hope it's the right fpubby for the lad. That's
> something you probably won't know for sure until he's been there a
> while, even if you think it's the right one at the moment. IYSWIM.

Knowing what I know about both, it's a lot better.

> Who's moving, you or the school?

The school's rebuilding (on the playing fields - where else) to a site
rather nearer. You know the lights near us? The entrance will be near
enough on the lights. Not /actually/ on the lights - no, that would be
too sensible. This will be a seperate entrance just far enough away to
conflict with the traffic queueing at the lights.

Rusty Hinge 2

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May 14, 2008, 12:06:03 PM5/14/08
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'Allo 'Elen.

Like the bad Penny, or wot?

Austin Shackles

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May 14, 2008, 3:34:20 PM5/14/08
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On or around Wed, 14 May 2008 19:13:25 +0100, Guy King
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
>Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
>but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
>other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

Is the fpubby moving, then?
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Helen Deborah Vecht

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May 14, 2008, 3:41:19 PM5/14/08
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Allo Rusty

Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
number matches the year.

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Karen Davies

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May 14, 2008, 4:57:57 PM5/14/08
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Guy King wrote:
> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!

That is good news, it's bad enough having to go to school, without
knowing that you have to go to a school that isn't much good.

Karen

Rusty Hinge 2

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> Allo Rusty

> Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
> number matches the year.

Troo. I'll ask PM if I've hit the jackboot, innit.

Andrew Marshall

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May 14, 2008, 5:25:02 PM5/14/08
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In message <3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk>, Guy King
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
>Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
>but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
>other, but miles better.

Jolly good arjf; I hope he does well there.
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Kate XXXXXX

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May 14, 2008, 5:52:40 PM5/14/08
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Guy King wrote:
> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!
>
You moving the house, or they moving the school?

Well done, anyroad.

Did he particularly want the grandma skule? James did, and it suits
him very well.

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Austin Shackles

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May 15, 2008, 2:43:30 AM5/15/08
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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 00:06:15 +0100, Znep
<E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>In uk.rec.sheds, (Helen Deborah Vecht) wrote in
><3130303037363...@zetnet.co.uk>::

>Anyone want eTcso Computers for fpubbyf tokens?

I guvax they're collecting some kind of eTcso ones here, dunno wot sort.

Malc

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On May 14, 7:13 pm, Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.hi...@gruel.invalid.co.uk>
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> The message <3130303037363935482B4E6...@zetnet.co.uk>
> from Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:

>
> > Allo Rusty
> > Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
> > number matches the year.
>
> Troo. I'll ask PM if I've hit the jackboot, innit.
>
PM? Post mortem, penc machine? ITWSBT

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Lister

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Prime Mangler?

Amethyst Deceiver

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May 15, 2008, 8:29:16 AM5/15/08
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guy....@zetnet.co.uk says...

> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.

Huzzah!

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Guy King

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May 15, 2008, 9:21:38 AM5/15/08
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> Did he particularly want the grandma skule? James did, and it suits
> him very well.

Yes, but they're oversubscribed somethinglike 14:1.

Guy King

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> On the lights might cause other prombles thobut. They'd need an access
> road, for a start, which would probably mean remolishing the lights.
> Will the fpubby still have playing fields?

Not so as you'd notice, no. Well, sort of. But not the four football
pitches it had before.

The lights are three-legged - I'd have thought putting a fourth leg on
would have made most sense. I bet in five years that's what they'll do.
Not that it matters, 'cos Inky'll be walking.

Kate XXXXXX

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Guy King wrote:
> The message <N66dnS5W-OiUw7bVnZ2dnUVZ8tzinZ2d@plusnet>
> from Kate XXXXXX <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> Did he particularly want the grandma skule? James did, and it suits
>> him very well.
>
> Yes, but they're oversubscribed somethinglike 14:1.
>
Sounds a bit like James's skule then... He was lucky as he got very
good 11+ results and scored off the scale in some of the SATs (maths and
science). He's just dome KS3 SATs in science a year early, and should
do well there too. This allows them more time to work on their GCSE
sciences, which will suit him as I think he may well opt to do three
separate sciences rather than combined science.

Inky strikes me as the sort who might well benefit from the less
sausage-machine aspect of this school rather than the university fodder
way grndma skules usually work. They never quite know what to do with
the bright sparks who may choose a different path that is more suited to
their talents. For this I also bemoan the loss of the old polys.

Kate XXXXXX

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Northfleet School for Boys, where a friend teaches, is doing this:
knocking down PART of the old school, rebuilding on that and part of the
grounds, demolishing the old buildings, and remodelling the areas where
it used to be to include better staff parking, more all weather sports
areas, and better facilities all round - if you like classes of 60+ all
sucked into computers with a token force of minders wandering round
'facilitating learning' - whatever THAT means!

Guy King

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> >

> > Yes, but they're oversubscribed somethinglike 14:1.
> >
> Sounds a bit like James's skule then... He was lucky as he got very
> good 11+ results and scored off the scale in some of the SATs (maths and
> science).

This one selects before the SATs are sat. They (claim to) take a slice
from each ability group according to their own internal entrance exam -
so it's possible to score very highly and still not get in.

Guy King

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> Northfleet School for Boys, where a friend teaches, is doing this:

> knocking down PART of the old school, rebuilding on that and part of the
> grounds, demolishing the old buildings, and remodelling the areas where
> it used to be to include better staff parking, more all weather sports
> areas, and better facilities all round - if you like classes of 60+ all
> sucked into computers with a token force of minders wandering round
> 'facilitating learning' - whatever THAT means!

This lot wouldn't be seen to be on the same site, if you didn't know
it's the same site, IYSWIM.

The old bit is going to be flattened and "returned to community use",
which probably means we'll lose the swimming pool and have houses. After
all, houses are community, arne't they?

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Guy King

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> >Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.

> So, the optician came through, then?

Gorra go back there in six months 'cos the optiquack wasn't too keen on
my cup to disc ratio. I know it sounds like something to do with the
proportions of the Eucharist, but it's actually a bit in the back of
your eye.

Austin Shackles

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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 15:27:19 +0100, Guy King
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>The message <es2dnXIZ_9T527HV...@posted.plusnet>


>from Kate XXXXXX <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> >
>> > Yes, but they're oversubscribed somethinglike 14:1.
>> >
>> Sounds a bit like James's skule then... He was lucky as he got very
>> good 11+ results and scored off the scale in some of the SATs (maths and
>> science).
>
>This one selects before the SATs are sat. They (claim to) take a slice
>from each ability group according to their own internal entrance exam -
>so it's possible to score very highly and still not get in.

Bit on the wireless the other day about how schools are teaching kids to
pass SATs rather than teaching 'em owt hfrshy. Cor, fancy that,
who'd'a'thunkit?

They also mentioned the name of the bum-brain who invented the whole idea,
so perhaps someone will shoot him.

I didn't hear them mention the practice of telling liable-to-fail pupils to
stay at home on SAT-day. No, not Saturday. But that too happens, I'm given
to understand.

Rusty Hinge 2

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A certain gentleman's initials.

Rusty Hinge 2

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> Prime Mangler?

Atcherly, close.

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Guy King

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> I've not heard of that happening, and I can't see how it can possibly
> benefit a school to have to record unauthorised absences for exams.

Ours makes a point of rounding up everyone for SATs week. Both Y6
classes have had 100% attendance so far this week and I see no reason to
expect it to be different tomorrow.

There's more than a handful we might /like/ to not have included in the
figures, but that'd be immoral and just downright wrong. Even if they
school did allow it to happen the governors would jump on them from a
great height.

JonG

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Guy King wrote:
> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>
> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!
>

Good-oh, we've got all that fun to come next year.

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Guy King

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> Good-oh, we've got all that fun to come next year.

I was intially put off by the amount of over-subscription, but then I
jbexed out that we have quite a high rate of mobility here - lots of
people move in and out of the area. My first question to the head was
"What's your pupil turnover in a year" which got the answer "That's a
very perceptive question, and one no one else today has thought to ask
me".

I reckon that their intake could absorb a few extra simply because
several would leave before Christmas, and quite likely sufficient even
before term starts in September.

Apparently being honest helped, too. Madeley Academy is allegedly a
"sports academy", and they asked whether Inky had any particular
sporting prowess. "No, he hasn't. He's not a team player at all -
perhaps they'd like to work on that, it's not something I can do easily
at home having only two kids" got a giggle.

Guy King

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> At least that's one thing we don't have to worry about - there wouldn't
> be any point. The only secondary school within realistic travelling
> distance of here is the local comprehensive, so that's where mine
> went/go/will go.

Ah well, Abraham Darby and Madeley Court are both about 3/4 mile from
here. At the moment. As it happens, /both/ schools will shortly be
closer!

A friend has given up and chosen The Phoenix School[1] for both his
girls, which seems a little perverse.


[1] So called because it got burned down. It would help my confidence if
it wasn't spelled Pheonix on some of the signs!
He'll end up driving them there every day for years.

JonG

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Guy King wrote:

>> At least that's one thing we don't have to worry about - there wouldn't
>> be any point. The only secondary school within realistic travelling
>> distance of here is the local comprehensive, so that's where mine
>> went/go/will go.
>
> Ah well, Abraham Darby and Madeley Court are both about 3/4 mile from
> here. At the moment. As it happens, /both/ schools will shortly be
> closer!
>
> A friend has given up and chosen The Phoenix School[1] for both his
> girls, which seems a little perverse.

That rankles at present. Choose a house within walking distance of what
is supposed to be a decent state school, and find that your smart
well-behaved[1] kids are left to their own devices whilst the school
concentrates on those who should but might not pass their SATS, and we
end up with a twice-daily cross-town drive. Now secondary schools are
looming, we get a further issue: Although the primary school they
originally went to feeds to a reasonable high school, because they no
longer go there they would end up at the sink comprehensive we are in
the catchment area for, and which local supply teachers have advised us
to "avoid at all costs".

Fortunately, there are three selective state secondary schools we are
entitled to apply for, with effectively their own 11-plus exam to do,
and, of course, heavily oversubscribed (but not 14 to 1, thanks for
small mercies etc). Misfortunately, they are even further away, with
poor bus links and likewise oversubscribed school buses. Alternatively,
we continue to pay for where they are now til they are 16, which does
not really appeal.

[1] FSVO

Kate XXXXXX

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Borden is a Specialist School for sports and languages: while initially
it was the science labs and the sports facilities that atrracted him
(and because I'd taught there he knew the layout and didn't get lost!),
he's turned from a soccer nut into a rugby nut, and is also good at
languages as well as the science.

We're in the catchment area for 4 'suitable' schools, though, as with
anything, some are more suitable than others... The local Community
College is also a sport school, but not an accademic place. Does
wonders in added value for those at the non-accademic end of the
dinosaur curve, but wouldn't give James scope for anything other than
getting bored and into trouble! Fulston Manner is the better of the
other two, being a good solid comprehensive with a decent record for
getting its more accademic kids into their chosen universities, but it
isn't as intense as the grammar schools, and I felt they were a
reasonable second choice. The last school is a bit like the curate's
egg: good in parts. Not enough parts were strong enough for me to
consider it a candidate. The third school we put on the list was
Maidstone boy's grammar: a complete pain to get him to, especially with
Alan not here 3 days a week, but the next best school to the one he's in
for James.

I think the whole thing is a complete nightmare, and I feel very sorry
for folk who have to make the best of a bad bunch. Kids deserve the
best we can offer, and too often they don't get it. For James the old
fashioned grammar school with the modern attitude and the facilities it
enjoys is the best choice. For others a less accademic and more
technical school is best, and for some a more practical approach would
be far better. I don't know why we as a nation have become so obsessed
with university education: it just means that vast numbers drop out with
debts that they wouldn't have if they's had a better course and idea to
follow. I deeply mourn the passing of the old technical high schools
and easily recognised poly's like Hatfield and Leeds, which offered
wonderful courses for the technical, the artist, and the designer, and
didn't try to make everything 'accademic'. We all knew that
qualifications like my bro's HND in mechanical and electrical
engineering was a good solid grounding in stuff that was useful, and a
decent equivalent of my less practical Teacher's Certificate. And we
all knew that an accademic degree wasn't to be taken as training for a
job, but as a purely accademic course that might lead to other things
once a vocational course had been followed (like a PGCE foe example), or
after on the job training. No-one expected the new uni grad to be
anything other than fairly useless for the first six months, while they
learned to USE all that theory in a practical manner. That was taken
into account when they started work

I'm just glad James has turned out to be a fair mix of social, sporty,
accademic and practical. Right now he has his aim set on getting an
army cadetship to fund his university years, followed by a carreer in
something like the Royal Artillery. That'll do for me!

Guy King

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> That rankles at present. Choose a house within walking distance of what

> is supposed to be a decent state school, and find that your smart
> well-behaved[1] kids are left to their own devices whilst the school
> concentrates on those who should but might not pass their SATS, and we
> end up with a twice-daily cross-town drive.

At one point that accusation could be levelled at Inky's school, but no
longer. These days they stretch the kids, no matter what their ability.

I've just discovered that Inky's arch nemesis has got a place at the
same school. Bother. Ah well, at least he'll be diluted.

Esra Sdrawkcab

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> Allo Rusty
>
> Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
> number matches the year.
>

It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named Mary.

Guy King

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> Borden is a Specialist School

IRTA Borstal!

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>> I didn't hear them mention the practice of telling liable-to-fail
>> pupils to stay at home on SAT-day. No, not Saturday. But that too
>> happens, I'm given to understand.
>>

> I've not heard of that happening, and I can't see how it can possibly
> benefit a school to have to record unauthorised absences for exams.

The first stage is very dodgy, so what's to stop them continuing that to
how they register the absence? "Unexplained case of 24 hour flu amongst the
lower achivers"

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Graeme

Kate XXXXXX

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May 16, 2008, 8:48:42 AM5/16/08
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Guy King wrote:
> The message <8uednUOdcpwk3rDV...@posted.plusnet>
> from Kate XXXXXX <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> Borden is a Specialist School
>
> IRTA Borstal!
>
Not QUITE the same thing... Though *sometimes* - !

Rusty Hinge 2

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Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)

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> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)

(Thinks about Professor Tony) No...

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Karen Davies

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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
> The message <C_bXj.4272$DZ6....@text.news.virginmedia.com>
> from Esra Sdrawkcab <ad...@127.0.0.1> contains these words:
>> Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>
>>> Allo Rusty
>>>
>>> Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
>>> number matches the year.
>>>
>
>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named Mary.
>
> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)

No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.


Kran

JonG

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May 16, 2008, 7:00:27 PM5/16/08
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Karen Davies wrote:

>>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named
>>> Mary.
>>
>> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)
>
> No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.

He's been reading Private Eye, hasn't he?

Esra Sdrawkcab

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May 17, 2008, 4:04:12 AM5/17/08
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JonG wrote:
> Karen Davies wrote:
>
>>>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named
>>>> Mary.
>>>
>>> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)
>>
>> No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.
>
> He's been reading Private Eye, hasn't he?
>

No, it just occurred to me one night whilst lying awake contemplarting
[1] (as you do)

from http://www.private-eye.co.uk/search.php

You Searched For: hinge
There are 0 result s for this search


[1] to use a cluestick against one's rivals?

JonG

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May 17, 2008, 4:54:36 AM5/17/08
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>>>>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named
>>>>> Mary.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)
>>>
>>> No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.
>>
>> He's been reading Private Eye, hasn't he?
>>
>
> No, it just occurred to me one night whilst lying awake contemplarting
> [1] (as you do)
>
> from http://www.private-eye.co.uk/search.php
>
> You Searched For: hinge
> There are 0 result s for this search

Well, the good Mary made an appearance (as subject, not author) in the
penulitmate issue's letter pages.

> [1] to use a cluestick against one's rivals?

I'll think about it.

Austin Shackles

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May 17, 2008, 5:13:00 AM5/17/08
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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 16:56:13 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
<rusty...@gruel.invalid.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>The message
><8e259884-99be-4db8...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>from Malc <malcol...@ubht.swest.nhs.uk> contains these words:
>
>> On May 14, 7:13 pm, Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.hi...@gruel.invalid.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > The message <3130303037363935482B4E6...@zetnet.co.uk>
>> > from Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>> >
>> > > Allo Rusty
>> > > Good to see you're finally back on line, especially as your Zetnet user
>> > > number matches the year.
>> >
>> > Troo. I'll ask PM if I've hit the jackboot, innit.
>> >
>> PM? Post mortem, penc machine? ITWSBT
>
>A certain gentleman's initials.

Prime Molisher.

Austin Shackles

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May 17, 2008, 5:14:08 AM5/17/08
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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 22:13:42 +0100, Guy King
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>The message <MPG.2296b317f...@news.individual.net>


>from Sena <"\"#\""@cymoeddorguk.privacy.net> contains these words:
>
>> I've not heard of that happening, and I can't see how it can possibly
>> benefit a school to have to record unauthorised absences for exams.
>
>Ours makes a point of rounding up everyone for SATs week. Both Y6
>classes have had 100% attendance so far this week and I see no reason to
>expect it to be different tomorrow.
>
>There's more than a handful we might /like/ to not have included in the
>figures, but that'd be immoral and just downright wrong. Even if they
>school did allow it to happen the governors would jump on them from a
>great height.

But what if the governors are in on the gag?

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Austin Shackles

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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 21:53:19 +0100, Sena
<"\"#\""@cymoeddorguk.privacy.net> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles said...
>> Bit on the wireless the other day about how schools are teaching kids to
>> pass SATs rather than teaching 'em owt hfrshy. Cor, fancy that,
>> who'd'a'thunkit?
>
>Haven't schools always taught children to pass exams?
>
>> They also mentioned the name of the bum-brain who invented the whole idea,
>> so perhaps someone will shoot him.
>
>No, don't do that. I didn't do SATs 'cos they didn't exist; however I
>did do a test at the end of each school year, right from however old I
>was through to the day I finally left, aged 17. The tests started in
>the infants IIRC, carried on through juniors to the 11+, and then became
>full-blown exams at the grammar school. I maintain that nothing's
>changed; they've just got an arj name.

Much has changed: the test results are used to determine the *school*'s
success, not (only) the pupils', and the school loses brownie points and
moolah if they don't get high success rates. Unless of course you end up
being a "failing school" and then presumably you get mucho dinero 'cos
no-one (or school) is allowed to fail, but no doubt you get impressive
amounts of grief to go with it.



>> I didn't hear them mention the practice of telling liable-to-fail pupils to
>> stay at home on SAT-day. No, not Saturday. But that too happens, I'm given
>> to understand.
>>

>I've not heard of that happening, and I can't see how it can possibly
>benefit a school to have to record unauthorised absences for exams.

they were ill, obviously. I forget where I heard this, but I've definitely
heard it said by someone. Nor would it suprise me.

Austin Shackles

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May 17, 2008, 5:27:35 AM5/17/08
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On or around Thu, 15 May 2008 23:51:13 +0100, JonG
<ne...@dentrassi-nospamformetodayplease.lodge.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Guy King wrote:
>> Got Inky's first choice of fpubby, following appeal.
>>
>> Well, sort of first choice. The grammar you had to apply to seperately,
>> but on the main form it was his first choice. It's no further than the
>> other, but miles better. Soon it'll be even closer, too!
>>
>
>Good-oh, we've got all that fun to come next year.

WTF? yours are never that old, are they?

Scary...

Guy King

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May 17, 2008, 7:35:48 AM5/17/08
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The message <de8t24p6p7fc5kkv6...@4ax.com>
from Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHIS...@ddol-las.net>
contains these words:

> >There's more than a handful we might /like/ to not have included in the
> >figures, but that'd be immoral and just downright wrong. Even if they
> >school did allow it to happen the governors would jump on them from a
> >great height.

> But what if the governors are in on the gag?

I asked the fpubby about this - it turns out that kids who don't turn up
get scored against the fpubby.

Karen Davies

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May 17, 2008, 8:35:36 AM5/17/08
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JonG wrote:
>
>>>>>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister
>>>>>> named Mary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)
>>>>
>>>> No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.
>>>
>>> He's been reading Private Eye, hasn't he?
>>>
>>
>> No, it just occurred to me one night whilst lying awake contemplarting
>> [1] (as you do)
>>
>> from http://www.private-eye.co.uk/search.php
>>
>> You Searched For: hinge
>> There are 0 result s for this search
>
> Well, the good Mary made an appearance (as subject, not author) in the
> penulitmate issue's letter pages.

I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.

Kran

Austin Shackles

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May 17, 2008, 9:15:28 AM5/17/08
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On or around Sat, 17 May 2008 12:35:48 +0100, Guy King
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>The message <de8t24p6p7fc5kkv6...@4ax.com>


>from Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHIS...@ddol-las.net>
>contains these words:
>
>> >There's more than a handful we might /like/ to not have included in the
>> >figures, but that'd be immoral and just downright wrong. Even if they
>> >school did allow it to happen the governors would jump on them from a
>> >great height.
>
>> But what if the governors are in on the gag?
>
>I asked the fpubby about this - it turns out that kids who don't turn up
>get scored against the fpubby.

but wot if they're genuinely belurgied? or can they take the test later? an
inconvenient outbreak of chickenpox could really mess with the results...

Guy King

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The message <1imt2418i1ofm7o9d...@4ax.com>

from Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHIS...@ddol-las.net>
contains these words:

> but wot if they're genuinely belurgied? or can they take the test later? an


> inconvenient outbreak of chickenpox could really mess with the results...

We had one turn up with (as it turned out suspected) cluckspots.
Arrangements were molished to sit in the head's office to do the test!

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On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:58:33 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the
Perplexed of Divine Intervention <x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com>
wrote in <g40u24pmppeat4c1c...@4ax.com>:

> On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:35:36 +0100, Karen Davies <oior...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

>>I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
>>horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
>>that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.

> I don't understand this and I'm not sure I want to.

Ich auch, moi aussi, and <AOL!>.

Rusty Hinge 2

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May 17, 2008, 12:42:27 PM5/17/08
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The message <slrng2u5fg.h...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>
from "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan...@brunel.ac.uk> contains these words:

> On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:58:33 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the
> Perplexed of Divine Intervention <x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com>
> wrote in <g40u24pmppeat4c1c...@4ax.com>:
> > On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:35:36 +0100, Karen Davies <oior...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:

> >>I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
> >>horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
> >>that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.

> > I don't understand this and I'm not sure I want to.

> Ich auch, moi aussi, and <AOL!>.

AOL et aussi moi

Rusty Hinge 2

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The message <jb8t245rv6kgtds8p...@4ax.com>
from Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> contains these words:
> In uk.rec.sheds, (JonG) wrote in
> <01805d58$0$29435$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>::

> >Karen Davies wrote:
> >
> >>>> It's occured to me to ask if Rusty has a non-Brazilian sister named
> >>>> Mary.
> >>>
> >>> Why? Do you rilly xabj an Anson who isn't nuts? (Or unHinged?)
> >>
> >> No, he's making a rude joke, lettuce raise ourselves above it.
> >
> >He's been reading Private Eye, hasn't he?

> Or the racing papers.

ITYM racey papers?

Karen Davies

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May 17, 2008, 6:25:53 PM5/17/08
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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
> The message <slrng2u5fg.h...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>
> from "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan...@brunel.ac.uk> contains these words:
>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:58:33 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the
>> Perplexed of Divine Intervention <x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in <g40u24pmppeat4c1c...@4ax.com>:
>>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:35:36 +0100, Karen Davies <oior...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
>>>> horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
>>>> that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.
>
>>> I don't understand this and I'm not sure I want to.
>
>> Ich auch, moi aussi, and <AOL!>.
>
> AOL et aussi moi
>

izza spoonerism

Rusty Hinge 2

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May 17, 2008, 3:55:13 PM5/17/08
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The message <QXIXj.91211$_K5....@newsfe16.ams2>
from Karen Davies <oior...@hotmail.com> contains these words:

> izza spoonerism

Izzat your arj name - Izza Spoonerism?

Nice one!

DARFC

Esra Sdrawkcab

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It is?

Maolich auch aussie ? no, don't get it.

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bobharvey

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May 18, 2008, 4:17:48 PM5/18/08
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On 17 May, 20:55, Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.hi...@gruel.invalid.co.uk>
wrote:

> Izzat your arj name - Izza Spoonerism?
>
> Nice one!

A fiend of mine, after jbexing on a hot summer day, still says he has
been 'visited by Betty Swollocks'

bobharvey

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May 18, 2008, 4:22:06 PM5/18/08
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On 18 May, 21:19, Sena <"\"#\""@cymoeddorguk.privacy.net> wrote:

> I didn't either, until arKran's post. It's a spoonerism.
>

In one of the dramas recently sent to me by DVD, a dissilusioned civil
servant says of his German counterpart's speech in Brussels:
"That was, if I may borrow from Spooner, the work of a shining wit"

Molishes me to larf every time.

Old Peculier

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Mr Kenneth Dodd has been known to describe his stage show as a shaft of wit.

--
OP

Steve O'Hara-Smith

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May 18, 2008, 5:27:46 PM5/18/08
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:22:06 -0700 (PDT)
bobharvey <robert...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> In one of the dramas recently sent to me by DVD, a dissilusioned civil
> servant says of his German counterpart's speech in Brussels:
> "That was, if I may borrow from Spooner, the work of a shining wit"

I like that one.

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May 19, 2008, 1:00:20 PM5/19/08
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Kate XXXXXX <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> [...] and better facilities all round - if you like classes of 60+ all
> sucked into computers with a token force of minders wandering round
> 'facilitating learning' - whatever THAT means!

Means peering over shoulders and occasionally pointing out that
uploading camera 'phone pictures of teachers' knees is not appropriate
for a maths lesson.

Or, at University level - which is what I do - plaintively looking at
all the Mypace and Flicker pages on the screens in the hope of finding
someone actually working on their spreadsheet who might like to ask a
question.

Cat.

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from catof...@mac.com (The Stainless Steel Cat) contains these words:
> Kate XXXXXX <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

Ickle chuckle.

JonG

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May 20, 2008, 11:04:20 AM5/20/08
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Karen Davies wrote:

>> Well, the good Mary made an appearance (as subject, not author) in the
>> penulitmate issue's letter pages.
>
> I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
> horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
> that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.


According to the letter, Twas also the stage name of a Music Hall act in
Llandudno or somewhere like that, in the 50s or 60s. I'll try and find
the letter if I CBA.

--
JonG
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent
Salvor Hardin, Mayor of Terminus.

Melanie Rimmer

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May 20, 2008, 12:02:51 PM5/20/08
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JonG wrote:
> Karen Davies wrote:
>
>>> Well, the good Mary made an appearance (as subject, not author) in
>>> the penulitmate issue's letter pages.
>>
>> I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
>> horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses
>> names that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.
>
>
> According to the letter, Twas also the stage name of a Music Hall act in
> Llandudno or somewhere like that, in the 50s or 60s. I'll try and find
> the letter if I CBA.
>
It sounds like an attempt to catch out the racing commentators. Once
they figure out the joke it's only a matter of time before they slip up
whilst commentating at high speed.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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May 21, 2008, 12:19:01 PM5/21/08
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:19 +0100, Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk>
wrote in <k62434h3o7f7m2fva...@4ax.com>:
> In uk.rec.sheds, (Dr Ivan D. Reid) wrote in
><slrng2u5fg.h...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>::


>>On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:58:33 +0100, Countess-Palatine Blackberry the
>>Perplexed of Divine Intervention <x{yz}enop...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in <g40u24pmppeat4c1c...@4ax.com>:
>>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:35:36 +0100, Karen Davies <oior...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>>I first heard the name Mary Hinge when someone told me about a race
>>>>horse breeder/trainer who amused herself by giving her race horses names
>>>>that only a very dirty minded person would notice as being rude.

>>> I don't understand this and I'm not sure I want to.

>> Ich auch, moi aussi, and <AOL!>.

> Think Spooner.

OIC. I still slip up on some of your British slang terms.

coj

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May 21, 2008, 12:55:58 PM5/21/08
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:19 +0100, Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk>
> wrote in <k62434h3o7f7m2fva...@4ax.com>:

>> Think Spooner.


>
> OIC. I still slip up on some of your British slang terms.

I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.

--
coj

"But it's nothing to worry about; it's all part of growing up and being
British."

Austin Shackles

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May 21, 2008, 1:08:43 PM5/21/08
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On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:19 +0100, Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk>
>> wrote in <k62434h3o7f7m2fva...@4ax.com>:
>
>>> Think Spooner.
>>
>> OIC. I still slip up on some of your British slang terms.
>
>I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.

except, of course, in Brazil.

Andrew Marshall

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May 21, 2008, 1:48:05 PM5/21/08
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In message <hol834lpgapn4294s...@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
<austinDITCHTHIS...@ddol-las.net> writes

>On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
>enlightened us thusly:
>>Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:19 +0100, Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk>
>>> wrote in <k62434h3o7f7m2fva...@4ax.com>:

>>>> Think Spooner.

>>> OIC. I still slip up on some of your British slang terms.

>>I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.

>except, of course, in Brazil.

..apart (so I'm told, anyroadup) from a narrow bit down the middle...

IGMC
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May 21, 2008, 2:13:12 PM5/21/08
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In message <1ihb0rp.1uukztw7l7qu3N%sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>, Sn!pe
<sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk> writes

>Andrew Marshall <g8...@g8bur.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.

>> >except, of course, in Brazil.

>> ..apart (so I'm told, anyroadup) from a narrow bit down the middle...

>At least they don't have to suffer the Bacrackansack Treatment, such as
>is considered essential (apparently) by some riders on the other bus.

Urk. Each to their own, but that sounds most unpleasant...

Guy King

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May 21, 2008, 2:46:05 PM5/21/08
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from sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:

> Is it not the done thing these fine days to take ones sprogs around
> to pestilence parties, so that they can catch the Lurgi of the Day?

No - we have vaccinations for that. I unforget German measles parties.

--
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

coj

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May 21, 2008, 3:02:45 PM5/21/08
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
> enlightened us thusly:

>> I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.


>
> except, of course, in Brazil.

You abstrad Shackles, why did you wait until I had a mouthful of pizza ?

coj

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May 21, 2008, 3:03:27 PM5/21/08
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Sn!pe wrote:

> IIRC(WIOD) Mary Hinge was a racehorse whose maiden outing was in
> the Spooner Stakes.

Along with Joe Blob

tersono

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May 21, 2008, 3:36:30 PM5/21/08
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:19 +0100, Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk>
>> wrote in <k62434h3o7f7m2fva...@4ax.com>:
>
>>> Think Spooner.
>>
>> OIC. I still slip up on some of your British slang terms.
>
>I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.

See

http://www.electraisd.net/alumni/display_class.aspx?y=1993

5th row, 5th column.

coj

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May 21, 2008, 3:41:05 PM5/21/08
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Just zis Guy, you know?

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May 21, 2008, 3:51:52 PM5/21/08
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 18:57:04 +0100, sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk
(Sn!pe) said in <1ihb0km.ngibz31c4hxbpN%sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>:

>IIRC(WIOD) Mary Hinge was a racehorse whose maiden outing was in
>the Spooner Stakes.

I am told that the horse racing types are very firm on not having
rood names. Legend has it that a Yorkshireman capitalised on the
fact that they are all Home Counties types and called his horse
"Norfolk Inchance".

Guy
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Guy King

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May 21, 2008, 3:51:22 PM5/21/08
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The message <k6u83450a011lfq15...@4ax.com>
from tersono <ethel....@ntlworld.com> contains these words:

> http://www.electraisd.net/alumni/display_class.aspx?y=1993

> 5th row, 5th column.

Oh dear!

Austin Shackles

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May 21, 2008, 4:06:22 PM5/21/08
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On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 20:02:45 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
>> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>> I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.
>>
>> except, of course, in Brazil.
>
>You abstrad Shackles, why did you wait until I had a mouthful of pizza ?

My jbex here is qbar.

bobharvey

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May 21, 2008, 4:40:37 PM5/21/08
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On 21 May, 19:13, sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) wrote:
> Is it not the done thing these fine days to take ones sprogs around
> to pestilence parties, so that they can catch the Lurgi of the Day?
> Measles, Mumps, Pox; get 'em over and done with while the sprogs
> are still young; this was the received wisdom when I was sprogging.

It was done here recently for Trenza measles

Esra Sdrawkcab

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May 21, 2008, 4:43:24 PM5/21/08
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coj wrote:
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:58 +0100, coj
>> <c_o_jo...@hotmail.com>
>> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>> I'm sure there are Mary Hinges all over the world.
>>
>> except, of course, in Brazil.
>
> You abstrad Shackles, why did you wait until I had a mouthful of pizza ?
>
Ah, so my original allusion was missed. Well I tried.
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