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canaldrifter

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Jan 25, 2014, 3:55:08 AM1/25/14
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Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
ordered to stop selling Marmite, Ovaltine and Irn Bru because they
contain illegal additives.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25867613

Tone

Brian Gaff

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Jan 25, 2014, 7:53:13 AM1/25/14
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Smells of trade blocking to me. I b bet the government has a maker of yeast
extract substances in it.
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John Williamson

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Jan 25, 2014, 10:28:18 AM1/25/14
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On 25/01/2014 12:53, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Smells of trade blocking to me. I b bet the government has a maker of yeast
> extract substances in it.
>
That's possible, but the article gives the reason for the ban being that
Marmite is too good for you. They're claiming that the vitamins added to
it during the production process are not allowed to be added to food
sold in Canada.

Those crazy Canucks...


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soup

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Jan 25, 2014, 10:53:42 AM1/25/14
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canaldrifter wrote:
> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
> ordered to stop selling Marmite,

GOOD! Disgusting muck yer Marmite.

Brian Gaff

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Jan 25, 2014, 11:05:18 AM1/25/14
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Well, I don't like it personally, but I'd not go to the extreme of banning
it. However the reason given seems a bit mean.
Brian

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RustyHinge

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Jan 25, 2014, 11:13:24 AM1/25/14
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Brun the heretic!

Creomite and feather him!


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Jan 25, 2014, 11:21:33 AM1/25/14
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:53:13 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Smells of trade blocking to me. #

IRTA...

...Oh never mind.


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canaldrifter

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Jan 25, 2014, 6:22:33 PM1/25/14
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On 25/01/2014 16:13, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 25/01/14 15:53, soup wrote:
>> canaldrifter wrote:
>>> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
>>> ordered to stop selling Marmite,
>>
>> GOOD! Disgusting muck yer Marmite.
>
> Brun the heretic!
>
> Creomite and feather him!
>
>
Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.

Table spoon dollop of Marmite stirred into a mug of boiling watter.
Luvverly!

Better than Horlicks.

Tone

RustyHinge

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Jan 25, 2014, 6:38:12 PM1/25/14
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I has a Marmite mug wot could hide in the pantry until you wanted some
Marmite from it...

GraemeD

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Jan 25, 2014, 10:03:22 PM1/25/14
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canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com> wrote in news:lbvu54$72v$1@dont-
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You can't get proper Irn Bru down this end either. You can buy Barr's Irn
Bru, but it's a recipe created for export only which does not include the
vital ingredients of caffeine and, more importantly, quinine. I've no idea
why it can't be imported if it contains those as you can happily buy tonic
water with quinine and all sorts of vile energy drinks containing caffeine
and worse.


Graeme

canaldrifter

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Jan 26, 2014, 3:17:58 AM1/26/14
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On 25/01/2014 23:38, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 25/01/14 23:22, canaldrifter wrote:
>> On 25/01/2014 16:13, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 25/01/14 15:53, soup wrote:
>>>> canaldrifter wrote:
>>>>> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
>>>>> ordered to stop selling Marmite,
>>>>
>>>> GOOD! Disgusting muck yer Marmite.
>>>
>>> Brun the heretic!
>>>
>>> Creomite and feather him!
>>>
>>>
>> Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.
>>
>> Table spoon dollop of Marmite stirred into a mug of boiling watter.
>> Luvverly!
>>
>> Better than Horlicks.
>
> I has a Marmite mug wot could hide in the pantry until you wanted some
> Marmite from it...
>

Like this izzit?

http://tinyurl.com/ph84w8e

Tone

Jim Price

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Jan 26, 2014, 8:22:27 AM1/26/14
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On 26/01/14 03:03, GraemeD wrote:
> canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com> wrote in news:lbvu54$72v$1@dont-
> email.me:

>> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
>> ordered to stop selling Marmite, Ovaltine and Irn Bru because they
>> contain illegal additives.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25867613

> You can't get proper Irn Bru down this end either.

Is there some uncertainty as to which end is the right one for insertion
of Irn Bru?

> You can buy Barr's Irn
> Bru, but it's a recipe created for export only which does not include the
> vital ingredients of caffeine and, more importantly, quinine. I've no idea
> why it can't be imported if it contains those as you can happily buy tonic
> water with quinine and all sorts of vile energy drinks containing caffeine
> and worse.

"Worse than caffeine" is only an off-by-one error away from saying
"everything in the morning".

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Richard Robinson

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Jan 26, 2014, 9:07:27 AM1/26/14
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Jim Price said:
> On 26/01/14 03:03, GraemeD wrote:
>> canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com> wrote in news:lbvu54$72v$1@dont-
>
>>> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
>>> ordered to stop selling Marmite, Ovaltine and Irn Bru because they
>>> contain illegal additives.
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25867613
>
>> You can't get proper Irn Bru down this end either.
>
> Is there some uncertainty as to which end is the right one for insertion
> of Irn Bru?

*chortle*

Settle for whichever end you can get it down, I'd say.

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Phil Cook

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Jan 26, 2014, 9:14:28 AM1/26/14
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Pissed again Tone? :-)
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soup

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:00:42 AM1/26/14
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canaldrifter wrote:

> Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.

Nah, apart from my mum poisoning me[42] had a wonderful upbringing.



[42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets

[33] Didn't think you could get Vitamin poisoning but that's what mum
told me and as she is playing a harp now so can't ask her if it was
something else.

bobharvey

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:06:04 AM1/26/14
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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:22:27 PM UTC, Jim Price wrote:

> Is there some uncertainty as to which end is the right one for insertion
> of Irn Bru?

None at all. It ain't going in the top end, and I suspect it of having already come out of the other one, so the decision is final in either case. The only purpose of Irn Bru is for pouring on people who are on fire, in the hope it might mitigate the pain somewhat.

bobharvey

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:07:50 AM1/26/14
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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:00:42 PM UTC, soup wrote:

> [42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
> Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets

I would projectile vomit the horrid orange "juice" we were given at school in the 1950s, but for some reason the school did not see that as a reason not to give it to me the next day.

I was even caned for vomiting in school.

cojones

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:13:04 AM1/26/14
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E r q ke
a th ua

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cojones

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:15:55 AM1/26/14
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I remember standing in a metalwork lesson just after lunch one day,
breathing in the fumes of some gas jet and being in the full sun and
vomited my piccalilli* sandwiches all over a lathe.

*you still could see the lumps quite clearly

GraemeD

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Jan 26, 2014, 10:39:00 AM1/26/14
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bobharvey <robert...@my-deja.com> wrote in
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Au contraire, it is also exceptionally useful (and to be honest, the only
reason it should be consumed) for dissolving the grease associated with
your fish supper or Scotch pie supper. The popularity of the foremost in
Scotland is, I believe, solely down to the popularity of the latter in the
same location.

Graeme

Jim Price

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Jan 26, 2014, 11:02:51 AM1/26/14
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Putting all this together, and making the assumption that the eating of
said suppers takes plaice in cars, gets you to this - as photographed by
a Scotsman:

<http://www.adrianbrannan.com/event%20cars/2-27.htm>

I like his analogue photo collages TAAW.

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Phil Cook

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Jan 26, 2014, 11:10:42 AM1/26/14
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On 26/01/2014 15:39, GraemeD wrote:
> bobharvey <robert...@my-deja.com> wrote in
> news:b0f61dec-9c5b-4785...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:22:27 PM UTC, Jim Price wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some uncertainty as to which end is the right one for
>>> insertion
>>
>>> of Irn Bru?
>>
>> None at all.

> Au contraire, it is also exceptionally useful (and to be honest, the only
> reason it should be consumed) for dissolving the grease associated with
> your fish supper or Scotch pie supper. The popularity of the foremost in
> Scotland is, I believe, solely down to the popularity of the latter in the
> same location.

It also has some efficacy in dealing with the problems of over
indulgence in alcohol.
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Redrawn Buns

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Jan 26, 2014, 11:22:48 AM1/26/14
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Jim Price wrote:

> <http://www.adrianbrannan.com/event%20cars/2-27.htm>
>
> I like his analogue photo collages TAAW.

Analogue? Nikon D3x is somewhat fingery

Graham.

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Jan 26, 2014, 11:24:28 AM1/26/14
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My Grandfather used to do that with Vick.


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Jim Price

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Jan 26, 2014, 11:45:48 AM1/26/14
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Well, he says he puts the collages together in his darkroom. I spose all
bets are off for the non-collage stuff, and maybe he keeps his pooter in
his darkroom TAAW.

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soup

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Jan 26, 2014, 12:04:15 PM1/26/14
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Phil Cook wrote:

> It also has some efficacy in dealing with the problems of over
> indulgence in alcohol.


Irn-Bru:- for the afternoon after the morning after the night before.

canaldrifter

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Jan 26, 2014, 12:43:42 PM1/26/14
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For inhalation rather than imbibalation shirley?

Tone


canaldrifter

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Jan 26, 2014, 12:46:58 PM1/26/14
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On 26/01/2014 15:13, cojones wrote:
> On 26/01/2014 14:14, Phil Cook wrote:
>> On 26/01/2014 08:17, canaldrifter wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2014 23:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
>>>> I has a Marmite mug wot could hide in the pantry until you wanted some
>>>> Marmite from it...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like this izzit?
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ph84w8e
>>
>> Pissed again Tone? :-)
>
> !
> E r q ke
> a th ua
>

Damn! I thought I'd get away with that. But then this IS the shedd.
Image taken on auto-timer, hand held at arms length without flash in a
poorly lit room. Nice mug shot though butt?

Tone

Graham.

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Jan 26, 2014, 1:04:26 PM1/26/14
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:43:42 +0000, canaldrifter
We lost him 50 years ago so it's a bit hazy.
But.
I also have this image of him taking it neat off a spoon.
My 10 year old self grooved that odd.

I'll ask me mum if she remembers.


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Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 26, 2014, 2:30:56 PM1/26/14
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:00:42 -0000, soup <cheezs...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> canaldrifter wrote:
>
>> Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.
>
> Nah, apart from my mum poisoning me[42] had a wonderful upbringing.
>
>
>
> [42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
> Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets
>
Wot no Oranges?

> [33] Didn't think you could get Vitamin poisoning but that's what mum
> told me and as she is playing a harp now so can't ask her if it was
> something else.

Pneebg cbvfbavat jnf rivqrag jvgu n fxva-pbybhe punatr.

Sorry, I felt there were lots of rot-bccbeghavgvrf in that. But I was
jebat.

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Stanley Daniel de Liver

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:15:55 -0000, cojones <sjra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 26/01/2014 15:07, bobharvey wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:00:42 PM UTC, soup wrote:
>>
>>> [42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
>>> Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets
>>
>> I would projectile vomit the horrid orange "juice" we were given at
>> school in the 1950s, but for some reason the school did not see that as
>> a reason not to give it to me the next day.
>>
>> I was even caned for vomiting in school.
>
> I remember standing in a metalwork lesson just after lunch one day,
> breathing in the fumes of some gas jet and being in the full sun and
> vomited my piccalilli* sandwiches all over a lathe.
>
> *you still could see the lumps quite clearly
>
Ah happy days.

You, yes You! take your glasses off and get in the scrum!
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Richard Robinson

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Jan 26, 2014, 2:40:43 PM1/26/14
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Sn!pe said:
> Stanley Daniel de Liver <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I felt there were lots of rot-bccbeghavgvrf in that. But I was
>> jebat.
>
> False rotterpunities? No shedpoint for you, young Stanley me lad.

Wotter false rotter.

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 26, 2014, 2:41:58 PM1/26/14
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wot about Sanctified Herbal Tonics eh?
(I refer to the legendary monkish products of Buckfastleigh)
(Ok, I won't post the rot, it's not that jbaqreshy)

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:02:51 -0000, Jim Price <d1ve...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[]
>
> Putting all this together, and making the assumption that the eating of
> said suppers takes plaice in cars, gets you to this - as photographed by
> a Scotsman:
>
> <http://www.adrianbrannan.com/event%20cars/2-27.htm>
>
> I like his analogue photo collages TAAW.
>
Emergency use only?

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:38:16 -0000, Sn!pe <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> Stanley Daniel de Liver <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I felt there were lots of rot-bccbeghavgvrf in that. But I was
>> jebat.
>
> False rotterpunities? No shedpoint for you, young Stanley me lad.
>

Ooh, you're a unefu ebg-znfgre.
Can I presume then, that "jebat" is already on The List?

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:40:43 -0000, Richard Robinson
<rich...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Sn!pe said:
>> Stanley Daniel de Liver <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I felt there were lots of rot-bccbeghavgvrf in that. But I was
>>> jebat.
>>
>> False rotterpunities? No shedpoint for you, young Stanley me lad.
>
> Wotter false rotter.
>
I feel right rotten.
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canaldrifter

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Jan 26, 2014, 5:45:30 PM1/26/14
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On 26/01/2014 19:33, Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:

>>>
>>> I was even caned for vomiting in school.
>>
>> I remember standing in a metalwork lesson just after lunch one day,
>> breathing in the fumes of some gas jet and being in the full sun and
>> vomited my piccalilli* sandwiches all over a lathe.
>>
>> *you still could see the lumps quite clearly
>>
> Ah happy days.
>
> You, yes You! take your glasses off and get in the scrum!
>

I was made to stand in the corner with a dunces cap on for running
around the blast wall instead of going down the playground to the
toilet. I didn't need to go to the toilet.

I also got ridikooled for starting an essay on 'My favourite food' with
the line: I like apple pie without any clothes.'

Ten I was. Fleetville Junior School, Snorbans. Assistant head was known
for putting his hand up little girls' skirts. Everyone thought it was
funny. The teachers were a bunch of cycle paths, but I couldn't spell
that then. Still carnt.

Tone

j...@mdfs.net

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Jan 26, 2014, 6:18:36 PM1/26/14
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soup wrote:
> [42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
> Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets

I don't think you can get vitamin C poisoning, above a certain
(fairly low) level the body just passes it, proving you with
expensive pee. Off the top of my head you'd need to drink several
*hundred* pints of orange juice *a day* to get to the point where
you can't excrete it fast enough, and I think your 10-foot-diameter
stomach would be a bigger problem first.

It's like the toxic dose of cough sweets - you'd throw up from
the quantity of sugar before you could possibly ingest enough
for the medicinal components to have an effect.

jgh
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soup

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Jan 27, 2014, 2:56:07 AM1/27/14
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Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:

> wot about Sanctified Herbal Tonics eh?
> (I refer to the legendary monkish products of Buckfastleigh)



Electric soup, FTW!

canaldrifter

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Jan 27, 2014, 3:24:45 AM1/27/14
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Shocking self-publicity!

Tone

Bob Henson

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Jan 27, 2014, 4:56:54 AM1/27/14
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On 26/01/2014 11:24 PM, Znep wrote:
> In uk.rec.sheds, (soup) wrote in <lc37us$8pk$1...@dont-email.me>::
>
>> canaldrifter wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.
>>
>> Nah, apart from my mum poisoning me[42] had a wonderful upbringing.
>>
>>
>>
>> [42] Vitamin C poisoning[33] got fresh oranges and orange juice and
>> Haliborange tablets and Vitamin C tablets
>>
>> [33] Didn't think you could get Vitamin poisoning but that's what mum
>> told me and as she is playing a harp now so can't ask her if it was
>> something else.
>
> You can get vitamin poisoning, but not from C- excess is just excreted
> (quite briskly if you have a very large amount). The fat-soluble ones
> like A are more of a problem, as they accumulate in the liver.

The sheer quantity of vitamin C sold a few years back was staggering.
When the mega-quack Linus Pauling was preaching his American nonsense
about Vit C it used to fly out of most pharmacies. I used to attempt to
tell the patients the truth, but they didn't want to know - after all,
they had read about it in Women's Own, so it *must* be true.

Occasionally, of course, the whole medical profession is taken in by
similar "medical myth" - as is current with salt levels. If you have
fully functional kidneys, salt is dealt with in the same manner as Vit
C, of course - but having learnt that in medical school they go into
full scale denial when they reach GP status.

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A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.

soup

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Jan 27, 2014, 5:52:53 AM1/27/14
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canaldrifter wrote:

> Shocking self-publicity!

Electric not cheese.

Full username is/was cheesesoup but something I logged on to only
allowed 9 characters, I couldn't get on with cheeZsoup so soup I became.

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 27, 2014, 5:56:41 AM1/27/14
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innabasket?

soup

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Jan 27, 2014, 8:00:16 AM1/27/14
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Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:

> innabasket?

Still 10.

bobharvey

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On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:52:53 AM UTC, soup wrote:

> Full username is/was cheesesoup but something I logged on to only
> allowed 9 characters, I couldn't get on with cheeZsoup so soup I became.

putting grated mousetrap cheddar in tinned leek-n-topato soop before heating up cheers up both the cheese and the soop, and me.

probably too much salt, mind, but hey! it's soop, so it must be healthy.

Richard Robinson

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That sounds worth a gel sometime when ICBA. Ta.

RustyHinge

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On 26/01/14 08:17, canaldrifter wrote:
> On 25/01/2014 23:38, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 25/01/14 23:22, canaldrifter wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2014 16:13, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 25/01/14 15:53, soup wrote:
>>>>> canaldrifter wrote:
>>>>>> Quote: The owner of a British food shop in Canada says he has been
>>>>>> ordered to stop selling Marmite,
>>>>>
>>>>> GOOD! Disgusting muck yer Marmite.
>>>>
>>>> Brun the heretic!
>>>>
>>>> Creomite and feather him!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Obviously suffered a deprived yoof.
>>>
>>> Table spoon dollop of Marmite stirred into a mug of boiling watter.
>>> Luvverly!
>>>
>>> Better than Horlicks.
>>
>> I has a Marmite mug wot could hide in the pantry until you wanted some
>> Marmite from it...
>>
>
> Like this izzit?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ph84w8e

Very similar.

I have a sneaky wish to molish a cup of Sith Effrican Bovril and chilli
+ hot water.


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RustyHinge

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Jan 27, 2014, 10:15:05 AM1/27/14
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"Cox!"

<points> "*COX!* <continues pointing>

</Big Bill>

"My name's Rattey, sir."

<Big Bill>

"Right, Rattey - now *Cox*...

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Robert Harvey

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Jan 27, 2014, 2:56:48 PM1/27/14
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Bob Henson <rh54...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Occasionally, of course, the whole medical profession is taken in by
> similar "medical myth" - as is current with salt levels. If you have
> fully functional kidneys, salt is dealt with in the same manner as Vit
> C, of course - but having learnt that in medical school they go into
> full scale denial when they reach GP status.


That's very interesting. Can we take that as gospel?

Mike Fleming

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Jan 27, 2014, 3:14:54 PM1/27/14
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In article <n56be9lvrrkrqq4di...@4ax.com>, Znep
<E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> writes:

> You are advised never to eat a polar bear's liver (though if you ever in
> a position where that might happen, who will eat whose liver can be a
> moot point).

Didn't some of the members of one polar expedition die of vitamin A
overdose after eating the sled dogs (the livers being another good
reservoir)?

An, here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Mawson

One dead through falling down a crevasse, one of vitamin A poisoning,
and Mawson survived.

--
Mike Fleming

Mike Spencer

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Jan 27, 2014, 4:50:17 PM1/27/14
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My mum put *lots* of salt on nearly everything [42], even had my dad
bore out the holes in her favorite salt shaker so it would flow
better.

When she was in her 70s, we told her, "If you keep doing that, you're
going to die." She replied, "I'd rather die than eat food without
enough salt!"

When she was in her 80s, we told her, "If you keep doing that, you're
going to die." She replied, "I'd rather die than eat food without
enough salt!"

When she was in her 90s, we told her, "If you keep doing that, you're
going to die." She replied, "I'd rather die than eat food without
enough salt!"

She lived to 98. I attribute her demise to the fact that her
otherwise good and kindly care-givers for her last two years
successfully prevented her from using any extra salt.


[42] Not iced cream.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

Bernard Peek

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Jan 27, 2014, 5:11:07 PM1/27/14
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On 27/01/14 09:56, Bob Henson wrote:
> Occasionally, of course, the whole medical profession is taken in by
> similar "medical myth" - as is current with salt levels. If you have
> fully functional kidneys, salt is dealt with in the same manner as Vit
> C, of course - but having learnt that in medical school they go into
> full scale denial when they reach GP status.

As always, it's not that simple. If you take in too much vitamin C or
salt your body will excrete the surplus. But until it succeeds in
getting rid of the excess the levels in your tissues will be raised. So
an excess of salt won't kill you but as long as you continue to ingest
more than you need the levels in your blood will be raised.

There's are equilibria between dietary salt, blood salt and urine salt.
If you eat more salt the position of those equilibria change and you
have higher levels in your blood.

--
Bernard Peek
b...@shrdlu.com

Redrawn Buns

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Jan 27, 2014, 5:26:37 PM1/27/14
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Mike Spencer wrote:
> My mum put *lots* of salt on nearly everything [42]
>
> [42] Not iced cream.

S&M molish luvverly salted caramel ice cream ...


Nick Odell

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Jan 27, 2014, 6:57:14 PM1/27/14
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Dicing, then frying up some bacon then adding it to a tin of mushy
peas diluted by another tinful of water makes a very acceptable
almost-ham-and-pea soup.

Nick

Bob Henson

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Jan 28, 2014, 4:51:24 AM1/28/14
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You can check it in any treatise on physiology. Electrolyte levels are
governed by a homeostatic mechanism which maintains a fixed level in the
body. If there is excess, salt it is excreted by the kidneys, if there
is not enough the kidneys attempt to conserve it - so as long as there
is sufficient input the level stays constant. It follows that unless the
kidneys or a hormonal regulator are/is grossly faulty (i.e. in a normal
healthy person) the only thing that can do much harm is too *little* salt.

There is a vague, but unsubstantiated, case for being careful in older
people, as the kidneys are not always as good as they were when young.
Obviously, in people where there is historical evidence of kidney
problems or predisposition to them, you should take care too. In a
normal individual there isn't a shred of good evidence for restricting
salt intake.


--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes.

canaldrifter

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Jan 28, 2014, 6:49:28 AM1/28/14
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I am addressing my addiction to Marmite.

I have just bought a jar of Bovril and some OXO cubes.

Tone

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 28, 2014, 7:51:39 AM1/28/14
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:49:28 -0000, canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com>
wrote:

> I am addressing my addiction to Marmite.
>
> I have just bought a jar of Bovril and some OXO cubes.
>
> Tone
Turned to the way of the flesh, eh, you heathen.

canaldrifter

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Jan 28, 2014, 12:56:36 PM1/28/14
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On 28/01/2014 12:51, Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:49:28 -0000, canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am addressing my addiction to Marmite.
>>
>> I have just bought a jar of Bovril and some OXO cubes.
>>
>> Tone
> Turned to the way of the flesh, eh, you heathen.
>
I couldn't find any Vegemite.

Tone

John Williamson

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Jan 28, 2014, 1:14:09 PM1/28/14
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I don't see the problem here...

I threw away the only jar of that I ever bought after one taste.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

canaldrifter

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Jan 28, 2014, 1:18:44 PM1/28/14
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Ye gawds! I hope you screwed the lid back on. It's probably
transmogrifying into something from the Qautermass Experiment by now!

Tone
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John Williamson

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Jan 28, 2014, 1:29:33 PM1/28/14
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Do you unforget when all the gates on the Grand Union stopped leaking
for a while? That was shortly after I chucked it away.

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 28, 2014, 3:15:48 PM1/28/14
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:56:36 -0000, canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com>
wrote:
Hmm seems a bit pricey:
£6.45 forr 400g
http://www.sanza.co.uk/Kraft_Vegemite_Large.asp
c.f.
£4.78 for 500g
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=262378566

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 28, 2014, 3:16:21 PM1/28/14
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Heretic; I kept mine at least 8 years in the back of the cupboard.

Mike Fleming

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Jan 28, 2014, 3:56:01 PM1/28/14
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In article <lc7uir$mie$1...@dont-email.me>, Bob Henson
<rh54...@gmail.com> writes:

> On 27/01/2014 7:56 PM, Robert Harvey wrote:
> > Bob Henson <rh54...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Occasionally, of course, the whole medical profession is taken in by
> >> similar "medical myth" - as is current with salt levels. If you have
> >> fully functional kidneys, salt is dealt with in the same manner as Vit
> >> C, of course - but having learnt that in medical school they go into
> >> full scale denial when they reach GP status.
> >
> >
> > That's very interesting. Can we take that as gospel?
>
> You can check it in any treatise on physiology. Electrolyte levels are
> governed by a homeostatic mechanism which maintains a fixed level in the
> body. If there is excess, salt it is excreted by the kidneys, if there
> is not enough the kidneys attempt to conserve it - so as long as there
> is sufficient input the level stays constant. It follows that unless the
> kidneys or a hormonal regulator are/is grossly faulty (i.e. in a normal
> healthy person) the only thing that can do much harm is too *little* salt.

Or you take in salt faster than it can be excreted.

http://www.sacn.gov.uk/pdfs/sacn_salt_final.pdf

See sections 4.8 to 4.10 on page 21 if TL;DR. Makes a pretty good case
for not going wild with the salt.

--
Mike Fleming

Andrew Marshall

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Jan 28, 2014, 4:50:15 PM1/28/14
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In message <op.xaeylj1qo4et73@dell3100>, Stanley Daniel de Liver
<ad...@127.0.0.1> writes
I goov I may have a jar of that stuff somewhere in deep cupboardspace,
but if unforgettery serves me correctly it must have been some time in
the mid-ish '90s when I ohled it, tasted it, gooved 'no thanks', and put
it away in a cupboard.
--
Regards,
Andrew Marshall, G8BUR, M0MAA.

Sam Plusnet

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Jan 28, 2014, 7:10:14 PM1/28/14
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In article <788h2lAX...@g8bur.demon.co.uk>, g8...@g8bur.demon.co.uk
says...
Spouse of my heart received a small sample bottle (not that sort of
sample) of Tabasco Sauce.
The bottle says it holds 3.7 ml.
It's now half empty.
She's had that for 4 or 5 years now.

--
Sam

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 29, 2014, 5:20:32 AM1/29/14
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I had a yvger of Blackbean sauce. But not all at once.

oynpxorna fnhpr

Robert Harvey

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Jan 29, 2014, 10:38:08 AM1/29/14
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Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:

> Spouse of my heart received a small sample bottle (not that sort of
> sample) of Tabasco Sauce.

Might as well be.

Sam Plusnet

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Jan 29, 2014, 10:43:55 AM1/29/14
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In article <1524682114412688649.546641address_is-
invalid...@nntp.aioe.org>, addre...@invalid.invalid says...
Your horse is _definitely_ not fit for work.

--
Sam

RustyHinge

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Jan 30, 2014, 9:32:34 AM1/30/14
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I has ajar of cheese and Marmite spread (a Sith Effrican delicacy) which
is accumulating dust in cupboardspace.

If you grope down the back of your sofa, be sure you don't connect with
Rustysofaspace,or if you do, don't unscrew anything.

RustyHinge

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Jan 30, 2014, 9:34:25 AM1/30/14
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On 29/01/14 00:10, Sam Plusnet wrote:

> Spouse of my heart received a small sample bottle (not that sort of
> sample) of Tabasco Sauce.
> The bottle says it holds 3.7 ml.
> It's now half empty.
> She's had that for 4 or 5 years now.

I has a bockle of chilli vodka which is maturing nicely - molished with
Scotch bonnets.

I goove the next bockle will be molished with nagas.

RustyHinge

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Jan 30, 2014, 9:40:20 AM1/30/14
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On 27/01/14 23:57, Nick Odell wrote:

> Dicing, then frying up some bacon then adding it to a tin of mushy
> peas diluted by another tinful of water makes a very acceptable
> almost-ham-and-pea soup.

I keep acouple of tins of pease pudden in the cupboard, and some bacon
hocks in the freezer.

A bit of cookery, and several yvgerf of pea and ham swoop later...

Bernard Peek

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Jan 30, 2014, 9:56:08 AM1/30/14
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On 30/01/14 14:32, RustyHinge wrote:
> If you grope down the back of your sofa, be sure you don't connect with
> Rustysofaspace,or if you do, don't unscrew anything.

Whatever else you do never unscrew the inscrutable.


--
Bernard Peek
b...@shrdlu.com

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 30, 2014, 5:21:23 PM1/30/14
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:16:20 -0000, Stanley Daniel de Liver
<ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Ah, you are A True Sheddi
>
>
>
> rkuvovgvat

cojones

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Jan 30, 2014, 5:46:04 PM1/30/14
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And you seem to be a true Harry ? But I think yer just messing up the
attributions again

--

minus minus thingy wossname

wherever I lay my tqt, that's my home

Graeme Dods

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Jan 30, 2014, 8:26:39 PM1/30/14
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At the party after my Australian citizenship ceremony (the lobotomy scars are almost invisible now) I was greeted by friends with a "You're one of us now!" and handed a jar of vegemite. It too sat in the back of the cupboard; until the kids discovered it. Developing a taste for it must be environmental and only happens at a young age - they demolished it over a weekend.

Graeme

j...@mdfs.net

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Jan 30, 2014, 11:58:50 PM1/30/14
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bobharvey wrote:
> putting grated mousetrap cheddar in tinned leek-n-topato soop
> before heating up cheers up both the cheese and the soop, and me.

Mmm. Feeling nibbly. I have a tin at the back of the cupboard,
now to find a sauce of clean source pans.

jgh

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:46:04 -0000, cojones <sjra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30/01/2014 22:21, Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:16:20 -0000, Stanley Daniel de Liver
>> <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:50:15 -0000, Andrew Marshall
>>> <g8...@g8bur.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Ah, you are A True Sheddi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> rkuvovgvat
>>>
>>
>>
>
> And you seem to be a true Harry ? But I think yer just messing up the
> attributions again
>
No, no just the delivery.

canaldrifter

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Jan 31, 2014, 5:09:41 AM1/31/14
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On 31/01/2014 01:26, Graeme Dods wrote:

>>
>>> Turned to the way of the flesh, eh, you heathen.
>>
>>>
>>
>> I couldn't find any Vegemite.
>
> At the party after my Australian citizenship ceremony (the lobotomy scars are almost invisible now) I was greeted by friends with a "You're one of us now!" and handed a jar of vegemite. It too sat in the back of the cupboard; until the kids discovered it. Developing a taste for it must be environmental and only happens at a young age - they demolished it over a weekend.
>
> Graeme
>
Have they started to curl up the end of their sentences (not sentences)
as if everything is a question yet?

Tone
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cojones

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On 31/01/2014 11:17, Sn!pe wrote:

> My younger grandsnipeling has turned out to be a proper little
> sandgroper, she has an Ozzie (not Osborne) accent so thick you
> could shear a sheep with it.

Is she a shear la ?
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Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 31, 2014, 7:06:22 AM1/31/14
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:17:50 -0000, Sn!pe <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I couldn't find any Vegemite.
>> >
>> > At the party after my Australian citizenship ceremony (the lobotomy
>> >scars are almost invisible now) I was greeted by friends with a "You're
>> >one of us now!" and handed a jar of vegemite. It too sat in the back of
>> >the cupboard; until the kids discovered it. Developing a taste for it
>> >must be environmental and only happens at a young age - they demolished
>> >it over a weekend.
>> >
>> > Graeme
>> >
>> Have they started to curl up the end of their sentences (not sentences)
>> as if everything is a question yet?
>
> My younger grandsnipeling has turned out to be a proper little
> sandgroper, she has an Ozzie (not Osborne) accent so thick you
> could shear a sheep with it.
>
Not sheer or share (not share or share) (or cher?)

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jan 31, 2014, 7:08:37 AM1/31/14
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:49:13 -0000, Sn!pe <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> cojones <sjra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2014 11:17, Sn!pe wrote:
>>
>> > My younger grandsnipeling has turned out to be a proper little
>> > sandgroper, she has an Ozzie (not Osborne) accent so thick you
>> > could shear a sheep with it.
>>
>> Is she a shear la ?
>
> Ha!
>
> In the same vein: when first I visited Oz, many fortnights ago,
> I was jbexing for a Dutch immigrant chap named "Broos".
> (true story)
>
I'm probably late to this but how about:

Bruce's Brews?
(sadly the webname is used by a chap going on about eryvtvba)
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GraemeD

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Jan 31, 2014, 8:27:09 AM1/31/14
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canaldrifter <canald...@gmx.com> wrote in
news:lcfsoo$c0r$1...@dont-email.me:
They have rather messed up accents, semi-Oz (not semillon)/semi Scots. In
one sentence they can say "boddle a wadah" and the next it can be "bottle
of waTeRR". My influence is clearly there, no doubt due in part to them
sometimes receiving a quick squirt from said "boddle" if pronounced that
way.


Graeme

Ivan D. Reid

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:14:54 +0000, Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote in <iafde9lth6901jaug...@4ax.com>:
> In article <n56be9lvrrkrqq4di...@4ax.com>, Znep
><E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> writes:

>> You are advised never to eat a polar bear's liver (though if you ever in
>> a position where that might happen, who will eat whose liver can be a
>> moot point).

> Didn't some of the members of one polar expedition die of vitamin A
> overdose after eating the sled dogs (the livers being another good
> reservoir)?

> An, here it is:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Mawson

> One dead through falling down a crevasse, one of vitamin A poisoning,
> and Mawson survived.

Very similar thing happened to my 1980 OIC and a companion in, I
think, 1956. Which was only when the link with vitamin A became known so
they were unaware at the time. Luckily they survived, though the other
chap was quite ill and sent to a sanatorium in the hills near Melbourne to
recover -- where he was be-mobbed by animal-lovers protesting that he ate
sled dogs to survive!

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
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