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Any good substitute for a horse-tail fly-whisk?

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Dave Rove

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Jul 22, 2013, 10:28:35 AM7/22/13
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When I was a kid, we had an old horse-tail fly-whisk in the house. It was
easy to swing fast and accurately, the hair would spread out in a fan as
you swung it, you didn't have to worry too much about it hitting obstacles
since it was made from hair, and it would hit the fly hard enough to
damage its wings or stun it so that it could then be picked up with a
tissue.

The stupid plastic-disk fly-swatters that you can buy these days, are no
good for hitting an airborne fly, tend to damage anything else that gets
in the way, and squash the fly into a mess on the rare occasion that you
manage to hit one.

So during this hot weather, I have to choke on that stinky chemical that's
added to fly-spray to discourage you from overdosing on permethrin. If I
haven't put food out, that is, which attracts the flies, yet I don't want
to eat a permethrin sandwich.

A few years back, I'd searched in vain for a horse-tail fly-whisk and
aside from brittle antique-shop examples, it seemed evident that it was an
object from an age gone by. But today, a quick check on Amazon and Ebay
tells me rather surprisingly, you can now get horse-tail fly-whisks,
mostly imported from Africa, it seems. For about �50.

So I'm actually finding myself considering paying �50 for a fly-whisk? But
am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?

John Williamson

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Jul 22, 2013, 10:39:36 AM7/22/13
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Dave Rove wrote:
> So I'm actually finding myself considering paying �50 for a fly-whisk? But
> am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
> way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?

Maybe have a word with an abbatoir that deals with horses, or, if there
are still any about, a horse knacker (If that's the phrase I want.)

Maybe even have a word with a local stable, as some of them trim the
horses' tails and manes to look neater in competitions.

Then ask in uk.d-i-y how to make one....

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Phil Cook

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Jul 22, 2013, 11:04:25 AM7/22/13
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On 22/07/2013 15:28, Dave Rove wrote:
> When I was a kid, we had an old horse-tail fly-whisk in the house.

> A few years back, I'd searched in vain for a horse-tail fly-whisk and
> aside from brittle antique-shop examples, it seemed evident that it was an
> object from an age gone by. But today, a quick check on Amazon and Ebay
> tells me rather surprisingly, you can now get horse-tail fly-whisks,
> mostly imported from Africa, it seems. For about £50.
>
> So I'm actually finding myself considering paying £50 for a fly-whisk? But
> am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
> way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?

There seem to be ones for less zu on amazon...

with synthetic hair it must be said.
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Nthkentman

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Jul 22, 2013, 12:22:33 PM7/22/13
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Dave,

I use a short "Pony Basher" horse whip with genuine out of the arse of my
horses tail horse hair. Approx 400mm long or so
Ask a local riding school/yard if anyone can help.
Using the strands from the tail, have one of the girls at the yard plait the
end about 4" back, attach to the pony basher using thin string around the
hair and shaft of the basher and seal with varnish.
This system works well and kills without mashing up the bluebottles

Richard Robinson

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Jul 22, 2013, 12:51:13 PM7/22/13
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People who restring violin bows do it with horsehair. There must be suppliers
somewhere.


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R C Nesbit

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Jul 22, 2013, 1:24:04 PM7/22/13
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Dave Rove spoke:
> The stupid plastic-disk fly-swatters that you can buy these days, are no
> good for hitting an airborne fly, tend to damage anything else that gets
> in the way, and squash the fly into a mess on the rare occasion that you
> manage to hit one.

Apparently the trick with swatting flies is not to aim *at* the fly but
for the space it is likely to occupy once it has sensed the air movement
of the approaching swatter.

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Eno P. Arfovg
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If you can fake that, you've got it made

Sleepalot

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Jul 22, 2013, 1:40:45 PM7/22/13
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My experiment with a piece of string suggests you could make one - if you
have suitable material; thread/yarn/string/fishing line/...




Thomas Prufer

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Jul 22, 2013, 1:51:54 PM7/22/13
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:28:35 +0100, Dave Rove <dave...@zzz.invalid> wrote:

> Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
>way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?

The modern way is with a "foetsie".

Works, and is satisfying.


Thomas Prufer
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RustyHinge

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Jul 22, 2013, 3:19:52 PM7/22/13
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On 22/07/13 18:24, R C Nesbit wrote:

> Apparently the trick with swatting flies is not to aim*at* the fly but
> for the space it is likely to occupy once it has sensed the air movement
> of the approaching swatter.

And unforget - alarmed flies take-off backwards...

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RustyHinge

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Jul 22, 2013, 3:21:42 PM7/22/13
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On 22/07/13 19:41, Znep wrote:

> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?

I know loads of people (round here) who own a horse/horses.

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Redrawn Buns

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Jul 22, 2013, 4:03:16 PM7/22/13
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Richard Robinson wrote:
> John Williamson said:
>> Dave Rove wrote:
>>> So I'm actually finding myself considering paying £50 for a fly-whisk? But
>>> am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
>>> way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?
>>
>> Maybe have a word with an abbatoir that deals with horses, or, if there
>> are still any about, a horse knacker (If that's the phrase I want.)
>>
>> Maybe even have a word with a local stable, as some of them trim the
>> horses' tails and manes to look neater in competitions.
>>
>> Then ask in uk.d-i-y how to make one....
>
> People who restring violin bows do it with horsehair. There must be suppliers
> somewhere.

Pottery supplies places (burning horse hair is burned in raku firing)

Judith

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Jul 22, 2013, 4:32:37 PM7/22/13
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In article <mk2ru8p4ucf3m32fj...@4ax.com>,
Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:

> In uk.rec.sheds, (RustyHinge) wrote in <ksk0ci$u8p$2...@dont-email.me>::
>
> >On 22/07/13 19:41, Znep wrote:
> >
> >> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?
> >
> >I know loads of people (round here) who own a horse/horses.
>
> Hmmmm. Get collecting any spare tail hairs.
>
> NB - anyone with a horsehair-stuffed sofa: you could be sitting on a
> fortune!

Find several dozen stringed-instrument players (violin, cello, viola,
string bass) who have old bows they don't need.

Judith

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Redrawn Buns

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Jul 22, 2013, 5:21:57 PM7/22/13
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Huge wrote:

> We have one of these;
> http://www.theexecutioner.co.uk/html/

that's OK if you like sploded flies everywhere, people seem to have a
tendency of using them around food tables at BBQs


Frank Erskine

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Jul 22, 2013, 6:00:33 PM7/22/13
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On 22 Jul 2013 21:11:15 GMT, Huge <Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

>On 2013-07-22, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> John Williamson said:
>>> Dave Rove wrote:
>>>> So I'm actually finding myself considering paying £50 for a fly-whisk? But
>>>> am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
>>>> way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?
>>>
>>> Maybe have a word with an abbatoir that deals with horses, or, if there
>>> are still any about, a horse knacker (If that's the phrase I want.)
>>>
>>> Maybe even have a word with a local stable, as some of them trim the
>>> horses' tails and manes to look neater in competitions.
>>>
>>> Then ask in uk.d-i-y how to make one....
>>
>> People who restring violin bows do it with horsehair. There must be suppliers
>> somewhere.
>
>We have one of these;
>
>http://www.theexecutioner.co.uk/html/

Anyone for tennis?

--
Frank

Richard Robinson

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Jul 22, 2013, 10:31:21 PM7/22/13
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Huge said:
> On 2013-07-22, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> John Williamson said:
>>> Dave Rove wrote:
>>>> So I'm actually finding myself considering paying £50 for a fly-whisk? But
>>>> am I missing a trick? Surely it can't be that difficult to find a good
>>>> way to take down flies, these days, without paying that much?
>>>
>>> Maybe have a word with an abbatoir that deals with horses, or, if there
>>> are still any about, a horse knacker (If that's the phrase I want.)
>>>
>>> Maybe even have a word with a local stable, as some of them trim the
>>> horses' tails and manes to look neater in competitions.
>>>
>>> Then ask in uk.d-i-y how to make one....
>>
>> People who restring violin bows do it with horsehair. There must be suppliers
>> somewhere.
>
> We have one of these;
>
> http://www.theexecutioner.co.uk/html/

Fly tennis.


What was that old story about freezing them with some kind of aerosol ?

Nicholas D. Richards

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Jul 23, 2013, 6:21:55 AM7/23/13
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In article <JUJU-C6B511.1...@free.teranews.com>, Judith
<JU...@withouta.net> on Mon, 22 Jul 2013 at 16:32:37 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
>
>Find several dozen stringed-instrument players (violin, cello, viola,
>string bass) who have old bows they don't need.
>
>Judith
>
Speaking as an old beau, I hope I am still of some use to someone.
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"O� sont les neiges d'antan?"

Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Jul 23, 2013, 4:12:19 PM7/23/13
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:41:26 +0100
Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:

> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?

There's three ponies and a donkey here for reasons I do not fully
understand.

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Judith

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Jul 23, 2013, 4:30:30 PM7/23/13
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In article <fsEJBuAD...@salmiron.co.uk>,
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <JUJU-C6B511.1...@free.teranews.com>, Judith
> <JU...@withouta.net> on Mon, 22 Jul 2013 at 16:32:37 awoke Nicholas from
> his slumbers and wrote
> >
> >Find several dozen stringed-instrument players (violin, cello, viola,
> >string bass) who have old bows they don't need.
> >
> >Judith
> >
> Speaking as an old beau, I hope I am still of some use to someone.

You can darken my towels any day.

John Williamson

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Jul 23, 2013, 4:34:17 PM7/23/13
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:41:26 +0100
> Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?
>
> There's three ponies and a donkey here for reasons I do not fully
> understand.
>
The donkey's easy to explain. It's there to keep the ponies company.

Nicholas D. Richards

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Jul 23, 2013, 6:03:36 PM7/23/13
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In article <JUJU-BB13B9.1...@free.teranews.com>, Judith
<JU...@withouta.net> on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 at 16:30:30 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
>In article <fsEJBuAD...@salmiron.co.uk>,
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <JUJU-C6B511.1...@free.teranews.com>, Judith
>> <JU...@withouta.net> on Mon, 22 Jul 2013 at 16:32:37 awoke Nicholas from
>> his slumbers and wrote
>> >
>> >Find several dozen stringed-instrument players (violin, cello, viola,
>> >string bass) who have old bows they don't need.
>> >
>> >Judith
>> >
>> Speaking as an old beau, I hope I am still of some use to someone.
>
>You can darken my towels any day.
>
In the words of the old song, "My wife won't let me".

:(
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"Oů sont les neiges d'antan?"

Nun the Wizer

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Jul 24, 2013, 12:40:05 AM7/24/13
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes
>On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:41:26 +0100
>Znep <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?
>
> There's three ponies and a donkey here for reasons I do not fully
>understand.
>

No monkeys? Pah! Small beer.
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Dave Rove

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Jul 24, 2013, 3:44:35 AM7/24/13
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Sleepalot <sleep...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Dave Rove <dave...@zzz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>When I was a kid, we had an old horse-tail fly-whisk in the house. It was
>>easy to swing fast and accurately, the hair would spread out in a fan as
>>you swung it, you didn't have to worry too much about it hitting obstacles
>>since it was made from hair, and it would hit the fly hard enough to ...
>
>My experiment with a piece of string suggests you could make one - if you
>have suitable material; thread/yarn/string/fishing line/...

Good point. I don't know anybody that owns a horse, so I'll investigate
that when I've got a bit of spare time.
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RustyHinge

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Jul 25, 2013, 8:29:57 AM7/25/13
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On 24/07/13 12:21, Sn!pe wrote:
> John Williamson <johnwil...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> Do you know anyone who owns a horse?
>>>
>>> There's three ponies and a donkey here for reasons I do not fully
>>> understand.
>>>
>> The donkey's easy to explain. It's there to keep the ponies company.
>
> I didn't know that peonies like company.

You'd be surprised at what pretty things you may find in their beds.

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