Dive Rite & Transpac II/Travel in mind
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I am considering buying a Dive Rite Transpac II harness & travel wing ,
for travel/warm water diving.
I normally dive with a Buddy Commando(Inc 0.4 l bottle , even abroad) and
am looking for something more streamlined,minimal for holiday diving. I
Lurve my Buddy but its to bulky for warm water drifts(and more).
Has anyone any experience of using this combination (harness&wing)
on holiday?
Also if I find that I like this set-up abroad ; Can I use it at home
with 15ltr steel cylinder , 16 lbs of lead , and a 7 mm semidry ? Will it
give enough buoyant lift?
I am not a 'Tek diver' but would like to explore the supposed in
water attitude advantages of a wing(amongst other advantages) and if I can
carry these over into Home diving then so much the better.
Allan
Chris Notton
> Salutations to one and all
>
> I am considering buying a Dive Rite Transpac II harness & travel wing ,
> for travel/warm water diving.
> I normally dive with a Buddy Commando(Inc 0.4 l bottle , even abroad) and
> am looking for something more streamlined,minimal for holiday diving. I
> Lurve my Buddy but its to bulky for warm water drifts(and more).
> Has anyone any experience of using this combination (harness&wing)
> on holiday?
> Also if I find that I like this set-up abroad ; Can I use it at home
extensive research I came to the following conclusion. All these
halcyon/dive-rite/backplate-system combinations are o.k. but they are
rather expensive and can still be fairly bulky. I looked into having my
own aluminium backplate made and building my own system until I had a
chat with the nice people at Buddy. They listened to what I wanted and
suggested that I could assemble a travel system using some of their
standard components:
I purchased a lightweight plastic backplate, a webbing harness with
shoulder breaks and a waist belt and 1 crotch strap, and a 13kg wing (the
smallest they make) from their re-breather system. I got rid of the pull-
dump on the inflater hose and installed both hip and shoulder pull dumps.
I have just returned from a months tropical diving here I used the wing
daily from 5 to 40 meters. The result were excellent. A minimal setup
which weighs under 2 kg. packs up really small, and doesn't move or flop
about like a jacket. Gives me a neutral attitude in the water and is
extremely streamlined. My air consumption dropped from about 20%. Other
divers complained about current that I barely noticed, you hardly notice
you have it on. The only downside was that fully inflated it didn't quite
provide the air bed effect of my old jacket. If this bothers you you
could purchase the 16 or sky. wings instead. You ccould even use your
bottle if you are addicted to it!
Buddy were extremely helpful at all times and said they would consider
marketing the combination as a Travel wing if there was enough interest.
Total cost was about £160. A bit cheaper than the alternative!
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Chris Notton
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Keith Lawrence
> I am considering buying a Dive Rite Transpac II harness
Similar to you Allan, I used to lug the Buddy all over the place - takes
a LARGE lump out of the baggage allowance and it's very bulky both to
pack and to use.
Like Chris, I've now gone for the 'home brew' approach. I use a DiveRite
Junior wing with an ABS backplate, single tank adapter and a home brew
harness, I got the whole lot for about £150 (cheap - in a sale) IIRC.
Nothing really wrong with the Transpac Travel, but I thought it was
expensive for what I wanted it for. Don't they have a soft back? I
personally prefer the full backplate, the ABS one weighs very little.
K
Simon
>
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> Has anyone any experience of using this combination (harness&wing)
> on holiday?
I have found the travel wing and transpac excellent for single cylinder
diving. I like the layout of the harness and the way the wing gets out
the way if it's uninflated. When inflated, I found I had enough buoyancy
abroad in a light wetsuit and in the UK with drysuit and all the
accoutrements. I'd recommend it. John Bantin (equipment reviewer of
Diver Mag) does as well - maybe I ought to rephrase my appraisal :o)
However, forget diving with doubles and the Transpac - they wobble about
too much. I've gone for a DIR backplate for my twin 10s and won't use
the Transpac for anything other than single cylinder diving.
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Cheers,
Simon.
Change "nospam" to "usa" to reply.
Jason
>for travel/warm water diving.
I've got one and I find it fine. There isn't much choice when choosing wings
for single cylinders. Most of them are too big which means they push you onto
your face at the surface and they can also wrap up the tank which can make it
hard to dump air.
One choice is the Halcyon, but they're very hard to get in the UK and
expensive, so I went for the travel wing + transpac. The soft back is fine with
the two cam bands holding the tank rigid. There's also padding which keeps it
comfortable when diving with thin exposure suits. It does take a while to dry
out though.
The clips are crap. Hard to get to and hard to release, but I don't generally
use them as I have the shoulder straps quite loose so that the tank is low
enough on my back.
It takes up very little space in your luggage. It's light and I think you could
even stuff it in a backpack.
> Also if I find that I like this set-up abroad ; Can I use it at home
>with 15ltr steel cylinder , 16 lbs of lead , and a 7 mm semidry ? Will it
>give enough buoyant lift?
The manual says it's OK up to15l. I've used it with a 12l + drysuit and it was
fine. A couple of pounds more air shouldn't make that much difference.
Jason
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For your replies , all info is stored somewhere for future reference.
To those who own a Transpac II , where do you keep all your stuff ;
slates,tables,rattle,mirror (NO not vanity , more kind of heliograph
-) ),SMB,torch etcetera........
I have been looking at the 'Two zipper pocket' for slates and other flat
stuff and the mask/utility pocket for SMB's and such like ; or is this a bit
ambitious for the mask pocket?
Will I have to strap all of my paraphernalia on with bungees and bow
shackles? What do you do?
Thanks in advance
Allan
Lee Bell
For those who are interested, Halcyon now makes an aluminum plate just like
their stainless ones, but a hell of a lot lighter.
> To those who own a Transpac II , where do you keep all your stuff ;
> slates,tables,rattle,mirror (NO not vanity , more kind of heliograph
> -) ),SMB,torch etcetera........
My torch (flashlight on this side of the pond) clips onto a shoulder
harnass. Everything else says in the dive bag.
> I have been looking at the 'Two zipper pocket' for slates and other flat
> stuff and the mask/utility pocket for SMB's and such like ; or is this a
bit
> ambitious for the mask pocket? Will I have to strap all of my
paraphernalia
> on with bungees and bow shackles? What do you do?
The more you strap on, including pockets, the less the streamlining
advantage. As mentioned, I chose to leave pretty much everthing behind
rather than clutter the gear I bought for it's simplicity. YMMV.
Lee
Simon
Echo that. Leave it all behind or strap it to your buddy's cylinder when
he's not looking :o)
Helen Johnstone
news:948395150....@news.freeserve.net...
> One choice is the Halcyon, but they're very hard to get in the UK and
> expensive, so I went for the travel wing + transpac.
I've never had any problems getting hold of a Halcyon. I've got (so far) 3
27-lb pioneers, 1 65-lb explorer and 1 45-lb explorer (not all for me). I've
got hold of them via GAS diving (http://www.gasdiving.co.uk/), via Dave
Thompson (silentdive) and via personal import from Extreme Exposure.
Payment to Extreme Exposure is via their web page - they handle all shipping
etc. Normally takes a few days for it to come thru customs. They weigh very
little - so mailing costs are very low. You simply go onto their web site,
tell them what you want and where you want it posting, and they'll do the
rest.
The Halcyon 27-lb wing is ideal for travel and UK single-cylinder diving. If
only warm-water stuff, then the 18-lb is better. However, I wanted to use it
for UK single-cylinder stuff as well, so got the 27-lb one. I use an OMS ali
backplate which weighs next-to-nothing (Ł50 - without the webbing - which of
course, you do yourself ;-)
The Halcyon pioneer wings are shaped for a single cylinder - like a
'squashed' or oval inner-tube. The gas inside them can move throughout the
'hoop' - which means great support of any in-water position that you want to
old. The 27-lb wing can also accomodate a pony attached to the single (if
you want to carry it there). However, they will NOT accomodate twins.
The quality of the Halcyon is second-to-none. The inflate hose is protected
at the wing - you can't strain it, etc. You can get it in a variety of
colours - even black ;-)
I also use a Halcyon backpad on the warm water rig to make it even more
comfortable for when I'm only wearing a t-shirt or skin rather than a wet
suit. I use this rig in the pool for training as well.
> It takes up very little space in your luggage. It's light and I think you
could
> even stuff it in a backpack.
Yup. You can use the ali backplate to protect other fragile bit's n pieces
in your luggage. The wing takes up virtually no space or weight.
- Helen
Ian
>>
>> > To those who own a Transpac II , where do you keep all your stuff ;
>> > slates,tables,rattle,mirror (NO not vanity , more kind of heliograph
>> > -) ),SMB,torch etcetera........
I cheated and had some pockets added to my drysuit. Slate, tables etc now
securely stored.
Chris Notton
> Thanks to : Chris , the big K (Kellogg's ?? ) , Simon and Jason
>
> For your replies , all info is stored somewhere for future reference.
>
> slates,tables,rattle,mirror (NO not vanity , more kind of heliograph
> -) ),SMB,torch etcetera........
> stuff and the mask/utility pocket for SMB's and such like ; or is this a bit
> ambitious for the mask pocket?
Scubapro and Apeks both do a nice pocket which you can put on your belt.
The Scubapro is landscape format and the Apeks is portrait (if you see
what I mean) they are both big enough for a SMB, slate, knife, spare-
mask, loaf of bread, bag of chips, disposable camera, Jeffrey Archer
Novel/emergency bog-roll etc.
I bought the Apeks because they are always soo nice when you ring them up
and ask stupid questions.
Pip pip
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Chris Notton
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Jason
>Thanks to : Chris , the big K (Kellogg's ?? ) , Simon and Jason
>
> For your replies , all info is stored somewhere for future reference.
>
> To those who own a Transpac II , where do you keep all your stuff ;
>slates,tables,rattle,mirror (NO not vanity , more kind of heliograph
>-) ),SMB,torch etcetera........
In the UK, I use the cargo pockets fitted to my drysuit for most of that stuff.
When I'm diving abroad, I don't carry most of it. I bungy the DSMB to the reel
and clip that off on my right hip D-ring. My torch is clipped to one of the
D-rings around the shoulders. I don't carry tables abroad. Invariably I'm doing
no-deco multi-level profiles which are way off the tables anyway.
If you do want to carry it, you can get yourself a pocket which attaches to
your thigh. Dive-Rite do one. I think Beaver do too, and theirs is probably
cheaper.
Pockets on the waistband tend to get in the way, but if you really want one,
Keith Lawrence has one that got wet only once before he took it off in disgust.
Helen Johnstone
> I've got hold of them via GAS diving (http://www.gasdiving.co.uk/), via
Dave
> Thompson (silentdive)
Whoops! Not Dave Thompson but Dave Crockford (silentdive).
- H
rasmu...@gmail.com
> Salutations to one and all
>
> for travel/warm water diving.
> am looking for something more streamlined,minimal for holiday diving. I
> Lurve my Buddy but its to bulky for warm water drifts(and more).
> on holiday?
> with 15ltr steel cylinder , 16 lbs of lead , and a 7 mm semidry ? Will it
> give enough buoyant lift?
>
> water attitude advantages of a wing(amongst other advantages) and if I can
> carry these over into Home diving then so much the better.
>
> Allan
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