RECOMMENDED MANUFACTURER OF NIJER OR PATROL TENTS
MDHNight
manufacturer or dealer that offers a robust product? My preference is for a
traditional type or tent.
Thanks
Matthew
CSL 1st Ribchester
MatSav
>We are thinking of buying a Nijer or Patrol Tent. Can you recommned a
>manufacturer or dealer that offers a robust product? My preference is for a
>traditional type or tent.
>
Matthew,
"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
Nijer, that's Vango. Available from most "traditional" dealers such as
Outdoors, formerly known as Scout Shops - although I'm sure they could
be had cheaper from other suppliers (such as Cotswold Outdoors).
There's pro's and con's for all types of tent, and only you can make
the decision. The bell-end of the Nijer is a useful space for storing
kit, but is not without problems - including making it difficult to
egress the tent from both ends. The Nijer is also more difficult to
pitch than, say, an Icelandic - also made by Vango, but without the
bell-end.
Don't forget the additional costs with a Patrol Tent, especially the
groundsheet - not cheap, and even more so for a shaped end like the
Nijer. Sloping ground also makes pitching with the tent's sod cloth
under said groundsheet more difficult. One of the few occasions when I
had a tent flooded out was due to this problem.
--
MatSav
Chris Atkinson
<mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
>"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
>Nijer, that's Vango.
as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
<nostalgia off>
Chris A.
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John McMahon
"MDHNight" <mdhn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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As others have said Nijer is a trade name of Vango. Outdoors don't list
Vango tents on their web site anymore (but I dare say they can order them).
Try putting Nijer and Vango into a search engine and you should get lots of
dealers.
Visit your local camping stores - according to Thomson Local there are 6 in
Preston - they generally offer discounts of at least 10% with a warrant
card.
If buying over the net be careful of ex-military tentage. IMO It tends to
be too heavy for Scouts to put up, very bulky and may have been chemically
treated for use in far away places like Iraq.
A quick look on Scoutbase small adds shows: -
Camping Equipment - Tents
3 patrol tents - all in excellent condition, including a Stormhaven.
Various canvas - fly sheets/dining shelters.
Camp oven.
No reasonable offer refused.
Manchester area.
Added on 6th January 2004
Contact: Steven Harrison (Scout Leader) (hmto...@aol.com)
And: -
Ridge Tents
14ft x 14ft heavy canvas ridge tents with flysheets.
Offers invited. 6 available.
Nottinghamshire
Added on 9th December 2003
Contact: Peter Teather (pe...@pteather.freeserve
Happy hunting,
John.
John Russell
>In article <gvvq10l40egq3irmv...@4ax.com>, MatSav
><mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
>>"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
>>Nijer, that's Vango.
><nostalgia on> Somehow '305cm Nijer' doesn't trip off the tongue so well
>as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
><nostalgia off>
12ft? Oh, surely you mean the old 3 metre Nijer?
--
John Russell
CSL 1st Pinhoe Exeter Devon
http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you care.
Ewan Scott
>We are thinking of buying a Nijer or Patrol Tent. Can you recommned a
>manufacturer or dealer that offers a robust product? My preference is for a
>traditional type or tent.
>
Might I suggest Relum - but make sure you get the heavy duty canvas,
and you CAN ask for jute sodcloths too.
Ewan Scott
Mark Winn
> As others have said Nijer is a trade name of Vango. Outdoors don't list
> Vango tents on their web site anymore (but I dare say they can order
them).
>
I eventually found Icelandics on the Outdoors site, it's not easy to
navigate to and I can't remember how I got there :(
But I did save the url to my favourites folder:
http://www.catalogue.outdoors.ltd.uk/acatalog/GroupTents.html should get you
there.
HTH
Mark Winn
Dave
"John Russell" <jo...@rubbish.pinhoescouts.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Chris Atkinson wrote:
>
> >In article <gvvq10l40egq3irmv...@4ax.com>, MatSav
> ><mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
> >>"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
> >>Nijer, that's Vango.
> ><nostalgia on> Somehow '305cm Nijer' doesn't trip off the tongue so well
> >as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
> ><nostalgia off>
>
> 12ft? Oh, surely you mean the old 3 metre Nijer?
>
thinking of 4 metre which is about 13ft.
> --
> John Russell
> CSL 1st Pinhoe Exeter Devon
> http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
> Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you
care.
>
DaveB
West Yorks
Dave
"John Russell" <jo...@rubbish.pinhoescouts.org.uk> wrote in message
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>
> >In article <gvvq10l40egq3irmv...@4ax.com>, MatSav
> ><mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
> >>"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
> >>Nijer, that's Vango.
> ><nostalgia on> Somehow '305cm Nijer' doesn't trip off the tongue so well
> >as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
> ><nostalgia off>
>
> 12ft? Oh, surely you mean the old 3 metre Nijer?
>
thinking of 4 metre which is about 13ft.
> --
> John Russell
> CSL 1st Pinhoe Exeter Devon
> http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
> Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you
care.
>
DaveB
West Yorks
James Smith
> In article <gvvq10l40egq3irmv...@4ax.com>, MatSav
> <mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
>
>> "Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
>> Nijer, that's Vango.
>
> <nostalgia on> Somehow '305cm Nijer' doesn't trip off the tongue so well
> as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
> <nostalgia off>
> Chris A.
10'
Dave Mayall
"John Russell" <jo...@rubbish.pinhoescouts.org.uk> wrote in message
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>
> >In article <gvvq10l40egq3irmv...@4ax.com>, MatSav
> ><mat...@D.O.invalid> writes
> >>"Nijer" is a brand name, so there's only one manufacturer of the
> >>Nijer, that's Vango.
> ><nostalgia on> Somehow '305cm Nijer' doesn't trip off the tongue so well
> >as the old '12ft Nijer' used to - but then nor does today's price :-(
> ><nostalgia off>
>
> 12ft? Oh, surely you mean the old 3 metre Nijer?
Nijer are 10' x 6'6"
Stormhaven are 12' x 7'
Icelandic II are 13' x7'
Chris Atkinson
<da...@research-group.co.uk> writes
>Nijer are 10' x 6'6"
>Stormhaven are 12' x 7'
>Icelandic II are 13' x7'
>
bell ends that had me going - or did they fall within the 10ft, damned
if I can remember - it's a good few years since I had to sleep in one
:^)
I do well remember trying to run a Cub Scout campfire in an Icelandic,
no, don't ask.
Ah well, I guess nostalgia ain't all it's cracked up to be.
Dave Mayall
"Chris Atkinson" <chr...@cgautc.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <bvnmvg$d8v$1...@localhost.localdomain>, Dave Mayall
> <da...@research-group.co.uk> writes
> >Nijer are 10' x 6'6"
> >Stormhaven are 12' x 7'
> >Icelandic II are 13' x7'
> >
> Gulp... I bow to your superior what's-is-name Dave. Must have been the
> bell ends that had me going - or did they fall within the 10ft
The bell end was extra. A Nijer is 10' at the ridge.
The other thing that I don't like about the Nijer is that, as well as being
6" narrower than the Stormhaven/Icelandic II, it is 6" lower at the ridge
(6' 6" instead of 7') and 6" lower at the walls (2' 6" instead of 3')
Chris Atkinson
<da...@research-group.co.uk> writes
>The other thing that I don't like about the Nijer is that, as well as being
>6" narrower than the Stormhaven/Icelandic II, it is 6" lower at the ridge
>(6' 6" instead of 7') and 6" lower at the walls (2' 6" instead of 3')
as a lad, I never had any problems with the Nijer.
When I first join'd Troop in 1948 (okay, kill that laughter at the back
there!) most of our tentage dated back to before the '39/45 war -
several Nijers a Stormhaven and loadsa poles and pegs.
As the new kid in a Patrol of six I had no trouble at camp with the size
of the tent - and I reckon I must have already been near six ft by the
time I was twelve. One of the first things I learned was how to use a
sailmakers palm when repairing canvas. Other early learning stuff was
all about sod sheets, brailings and guy lines, and how to run your
finger down the canvas when a leak appeared. In those days a two week
summer camp was the norm, and we had very good Leaders who ensured that
we knew how to camp well from day one.
As a PL I appreciated the bell end - because I promptly declared that as
my territory.
I can remember only one camp where the separate groundsheet caused a
problem - and there the Troop site got flooded so badly that it wouldn't
have mattered what we had ( I was a Senior Scout then and
sleeping/floating in a Vango with a built-in g/sheet).
As a Leader I appreciated the sheer longevity of Blacks tents. I can't
vouch for the quality of tentage that you buy today, but the Vango spec
appears to offer the same weight canvas as the old Blacks range and I
would like to think that the build standard has been maintained. On a
likely value for money basis, I would be looking at that range first if
I was in the market for new Patrol tents. Oh yes, and I'd still be
teaching Scouts how to rough it easy at camp, and how to use and look
after those tents.
And, by the way, a ring of sisal around the tent will keep all manner of
wild animals like elephants and aardvarks away ... NALOPKT :^)
Mark Winn
Snip
> And, by the way, a ring of sisal around the tent will keep all manner of
> wild animals like elephants and aardvarks away ... NALOPKT :^)
> Chris A.
NALOPKT ?? I had to look that one up on Google....
Mark Winn
Tom Oldershaw
<chr...@cgautc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>And, by the way, a ring of sisal around the tent will keep all manner of
>wild animals like elephants and aardvarks away ... NALOPKT :^)
I've often thought about trying that. Mind you, knowing my luck the
circus would be in the field next door and one of the animals would
escape...
--
Tom Oldershaw
DESC, Bedford
mailto: t...@bluegreen.org.uk
http://www.bedfordexplorerscouts.org.uk/
John Russell
>On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:18:31 +0000, Chris Atkinson
><chr...@cgautc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>And, by the way, a ring of sisal around the tent will keep all manner of
>>wild animals like elephants and aardvarks away ... NALOPKT :^)
>
>I've often thought about trying that. Mind you, knowing my luck the
>circus would be in the field next door and one of the animals would
>escape...
It doesn't work with elephants. I know nothing about deterrence of
aardvarks. It's a technique recommended against snakes. The sisal has to
be dry and at ground level (snake belly level) and it does work. But sharp
gravel is more reliable.
Chris Atkinson
<jo...@rubbish.pinhoescouts.org.uk> writes
>It doesn't work with elephants. I know nothing about deterrence of
>aardvarks.
invade our tents. And as for aardvarks - and here I have to say a big
Thank You John - for giving me this opportunity, I guess they probably
wouldn't have been a problem since it's well known that aardvarks never
hurt anyone ... Boom! Boom!
(I'll get me coat).