What badge is this?
Steve Spicer
Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
Anyone know what it is?
I reckon it must be "World Conservation" but some clarification would be
good.
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Steve Spicer
Aspley Guise Scouts SL
http://www.aspleyguisescouts.org.uk
Henry 8th
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> Ok, here's a question for you all.
>
> Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
> lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
>
> Anyone know what it is?
>
> I reckon it must be "World Conservation" but some clarification would be
> good.
>
>
I can't see one with a light bulb, but it could just be the new "artists
impressions"
Richard Guy
richa...@nospam.avonscouts.org.uk
Richard Grenfell
Spicer" <sjsp...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Ok, here's a question for you all.
>
> Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
> lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
>
> Anyone know what it is?
>
> I reckon it must be "World Conservation" but some clarification would be
> good.
>
Its a balloon, not a light bulb, and its the Baloonists badge, to be
awarded for passing the balloon pilot requirements for the CAA.
HTH
Richard
:)
Chris Sowden
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>> lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
>>
>> Anyone know what it is?
>>
>> I reckon it must be "World Conservation" but some clarification would be
>> good.
>
>Have a look on Scoutbase. All the badges are shown (without the sponsors names).
>I can't see one with a light bulb, but it could just be the new "artists
>impressions"
I don't think so....
Our district badge secretary has also received two packs of
mystery Cub activity badges: one has a ghostly face and is
sponsored by BT and the other shows a house with a hand holding a
cloth and is sponsored by Bounty. As with your bulb badge,
neither of these badges resemble any of the badges in the new
programme materials.
We guessed that the badges are Communicator and Home Help. Might
your badge be Scientist?
I think there will be a lot of very confused Leaders and Cubs.
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Chris Sowden
Skip
Don't turn on your lights if you smell gas!
Steve Spicer
"Chris Sowden" wrote:
> >> Anyone know what it is?
> >>
> >> I reckon it must be "World Conservation" but some clarification would
be
> >> good.
> >
> >Have a look on Scoutbase. All the badges are shown (without the sponsors
names).
> >I can't see one with a light bulb, but it could just be the new "artists
> >impressions"
>
> I don't think so....
>
> Our district badge secretary has also received two packs of
> mystery Cub activity badges: one has a ghostly face and is
> sponsored by BT and the other shows a house with a hand holding a
> cloth and is sponsored by Bounty. As with your bulb badge,
> neither of these badges resemble any of the badges in the new
> programme materials.
>
> We guessed that the badges are Communicator and Home Help. Might
> your badge be Scientist?
Ok, the Communicator is sponsored by BT and has the BT face on it. The Home
Help is sponsored by Bounty and has a house and a bounty kitchen roll (in a
hand) on it.
Scientist is sponsored by BNFL and has a flask on it.
The only one I can't easily work out is the lightbulb/British Gas one- and
the receipt I have says "World Conservation", and I can claim with certainty
that there are no pandas on any other badges (unless they are inside the
light bulb)!
Tom Oldershaw
<sjsp...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
>lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
Would those be the badges that made an appearance at the Bedford
District Team Meeting, Steve?
I really should get round to meeting you one of these days.
Tom.
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Tom Oldershaw
ESL Bedford District
Mail: t...@bluegreen.org.uk
Steve Spicer
"Tom Oldershaw" wrote:
> >Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
> >lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
>
> Would those be the badges that made an appearance at the Bedford
> District Team Meeting, Steve?
In a large plastic bag, perhaps?
> I really should get round to meeting you one of these days.
Indeed. But virtually impossible to track down!
Steve
John Russell
>Ok, here's a question for you all.
>
>Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
>lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
The Dual Fuel Award, given for persuading parents to switch to British Gas.
--
John Russell
CSL 1st Pinhoe Exeter Devon
http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you care.
Sebastion
might have a better idea then.
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Steve Spicer
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> Why don't you scan it in and put it on your web page for us all to see, we
> might have a better idea then.
Ok, have a look at:
http://www.aspleyguisescouts.org.uk/crazybadges.jpg
I've scanned the 4 badges I have with designs that are different from those
on Scoutbase. Ok, the Scientist badge is just a little different (perhaps
the exploding test tube was too much for BNFL?!?).
MatSav
i.e. the Infomation Centre?
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MatSav
Steve Spicer
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> I'm going to state the obvious - why not ask those who are supposed to
know,
> i.e. the Infomation Centre?
Because thats far too obvious and no fun at all.
:-)
Sebastion
Had a quick look.
The BNFL is the Scientist badge, they've sponsored that one for quite some
time
The Bounty is The Home Help, we had a pack come through last year with
sheets of Bounty kitchen roll and a info sheet on how to get the badge
BT must be the Communicator - why they didn't put a phone on it instead of a
face is anyone's guess
The Gas one - could be world conservation - save energy my thinking.
Could be totally wrong though!
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told that
the sponsorship of the badges was not going to be so obvious, but it appears
that it still is.
I wonder what scouting actually gets out of such blatant advertisements on
the badges?
Matthew Lamkin.
CLS Habergham, Burnley.
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Dave Mayall
>
> What I see different about them is the fact that they are "sponsored", I was
> told that
> the sponsorship of the badges was not going to be so obvious, but it appears
> that it still is.
>
> I wonder what scouting actually gets out of such blatant advertisements on
> the badges?
Money.
Not that it reduces capitation or anything :-(
It isn't the fact that the sponsorship is large that concerns me. It
is the fact that in addition to the sponsor's logo, the badge emblem
is being modified to suit the sponsor.
James
>I wonder what scouting actually gets out of such blatant advertisements on
>the badges?
Usually a small amount of money, and usually a resource pack for whichever
section the badge is for, e.g. the "Map reading" guide by O/S, posters, and
A4 fold out books for other badges...
Owen Morris
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: "Sebastion" <seb....@virgin.net> wrote in message
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: > Why don't you scan it in and put it on your web page for us all to see,
we
: > might have a better idea then.
:
:
: Ok, have a look at:
:
: http://www.aspleyguisescouts.org.uk/crazybadges.jpg
:
: I've scanned the 4 badges I have with designs that are different from
those
: on Scoutbase. Ok, the Scientist badge is just a little different (perhaps
: the exploding test tube was too much for BNFL?!?).
:
sorry to spoil your fun and all that....
BT one is communication and the lightbulb is Global Conservation (shame, no
more cute pandas) - while I was on phone to info centre trying to get CRB
forms... thought I would ask, and they eventually found someone in the
fundraising dept who knew the answer :)
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Owen Morris - ow...@devnull.farndonscouts.org
1st Farndon Scout Group (http://www.farndonscouts.org)
ScoutLink Network Administrator (http://www.scoutlink.net)
Brian F Kirkham
If you want someone to have a go at vis-a-vis the corporate sponsoring of
the cub badge programme you need look no further than the scouts own
programme,
For Example: -
Computer Badge (last sponsored by Compaq)
Not only did they get their name on the badge but also
got aimed adverts to parents.
Road Safety (Sponsored by Vauxhall Motors)
Not as widespread as the Compaq affair, but a large feather in the cap of
Vauxhall - and what lovely advertising!
Now dont get me wrong - i believe scouts (whatever section) should move with
the times, but if we're going to be sponsored by companies can they leave
the adverts to the booklets and not to the badges.
Having seen the new badge programme and the corporate ' partners ' , i dread
whats coming next,
- the proficiency badges - which every member works hard for - turning into
an advertising hoarding on the uniform - aimed subliminally at the parents.
I would have preferred it if sponsors could have sponsored the main badge
programme - or even the county system - and left out the idea of a company
sponsoring a badge each.
However leadership takes the cash and little fred has to become a mobile
advertising board.
Such Adverts surely come under the ASA ?
Answers on an E-Mail Please.
Rant and Rave Over -
BF Kirkham
ACSL 90th (City of) Salford,
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Chris
As I see it, the badges are being advertised as a way of keeping capitation
down (yes your going to slaughter me for this). Think about how much
capitation has gone up in the last few years (at least a fiver since I have
being taking notice, which is about 3 years). Then think about how much it
might have gone up if the badges hadn't been sponsored? The sponsorship
deals stop the SA having to foot the bill for producing all some of the info
packs. Had the SA not had sponsorship for the badges it has sponsored then
the cost of producing stuff would have been passed on to us directly (one
way or another). So sponsorship is helping to keep costs down.
On the part of the "obvious" advertising, it is not the SA's decision as to
what the sponsor wants. (Okay, so the SA, if they don't like the idea, could
say no), but if it means they can get X amount of £ out of them then they
will put up with it.
On the part of the SA, it helps to be associated with large and trustworthy
companies (like BT and British Gas). It is all to do with public
perceptions. "Hmm, these people (the SA) are being sponsored by BT, they
must be worth their salt else BT wouldn't sponsor them"
Sponsorship is helping to bring the image of scouting in the modern world.
If we (as members of the SA) want to keep scouting going then we will,
sometimes have to go along with commercialism to keep going.
Maybe this is the Media Studies student in me talking, but we should all
think about ways of modernising and improving the image of scouting from the
"Dib Dib" image that people still think of.
--
Chris Naylor,
Hathi, 16th Dews Cubs
2N3FF
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Stephen Rainsbury
> Ok, here's a question for you all.
>
> Just stocked up on some new badges. Got a Cub Scout Activity Badge with a
> lightbulb on it, sponsored by British Gas.
I asked my troop, they think that the light bulb represents having an idea
and British Gas, is well Gas!
So the badge must be for some one who thinks about gas, ie Pumba from the
Disney movie Lion King, when he was talking about what the stars are so its
probably an astronomy badge.
--
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Stephen Rainsbury
SL 8th Gillingham
DSL Gillingham District
Stephen Rainsbury
(2) Is either a coffee cup from Star Trek Deep Space 9 or a Breast pump,
so it must be for Scout leaders who speak Klingon, because they don't mind
making a T*T of themsleves in front of the kids.
(3) This is obviously someone wiping down a dog kennel, so it must be
pooper scooper stage 1, nobody wants to consider stage 2.
(4) This is actually "The Scream", with out the eyes, so it must be for all
leaders after long meetings
Dave Mayall
>
> IMHO
>
> As I see it, the badges are being advertised as a way of keeping capitation
> down (yes your going to slaughter me for this). Think about how much
> capitation has gone up in the last few years (at least a fiver since I have
> being taking notice, which is about 3 years). Then think about how much it
> might have gone up if the badges hadn't been sponsored? The sponsorship
> deals stop the SA having to foot the bill for producing all some of the info
> packs. Had the SA not had sponsorship for the badges it has sponsored then
> the cost of producing stuff would have been passed on to us directly (one
> way or another). So sponsorship is helping to keep costs down.
Sorry, but you are entirely WRONG!
Sponsorship money doesn't affect the level of capitation by so much
as a Brass Farthing.
Money from sponsored badges is hypothecated to "special projects"
which don't get funded from capitation.