Scrapping the Wood Badge....
Sean Williams
<r...@geatland.bt.co.uk> writes
>
>
>p.s. Trivia question: what is a pta?
>
In education its Parent Teacher Association but in Scouting its Personal
Training Advisor.
Any other interpretations for PTA ?
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Sean Williams - 73rd Leicester (Groby) Group Scout Leader
se...@grobynet.demon.co.uk
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Robin Cooksey
>>Hang on hang on.
>>
>>This sounds like a cross wire to me. Our ABSL has just come back from
>>initial training and informed us that the entire training system is being
>>revamped. The old introductory, leadership I, leadership II is going to be
>>replaced. I can't remember the new system, it seems complicated because it
>>is built more around the "module" system - allowing leaders to choose
>>modules that they need (like Beaver Leaders not doing the camping module).
>>
>Anybody know what it is being changed to? I am just about to start my
[lots of bits shamelessly killed]
It's different different Counties anyway - eg. Hertfordshire have a different
system, instead of Introductory, Leadership 1 etc there are 5 Phases.
Phases 1-3 and Phase 5 are the same for all sections, but there is a different
Phase 4 for each of the Sections. Also bits in the Phase 3 are different ie
you split into Sectional groups for bits of it.
They've been doing it this way for a few years, I don't know whether it's good
or not :-)
Robin Cooksey
Andrew Bollington
Here here!
> This sounds like a cross wire to me. Our ABSL has just come back from
> initial training and informed us that the entire training system is
> being revamped. The old introductory, leadership I, leadership II is
> going to be replaced. I can't remember the new system, it seems
> complicated because it is built more around the "module" system -
> allowing leaders to choose modules that they need (like Beaver Leaders
> not doing the camping module).
This is not really true. No national change is being made to these
courses, and it's certainly not true that Gilwell are replacing anything.
However, Gilwell are giving County/Area Leader Training Teams much more
flexibility in how they deliver and provide these courses. In some
areas, this means that Training Teams are renaming the courses, adapting
the content to local needs, and running the courses in a more modular
way. That's probably what's happening in your County, and why your ABSL
has been told that things are changing.
All that said, the requirements for the Wood Badge are exactly the same,
and however a Training Team changes the courses, they must still meet the
same set of objectives at the end of the day.
There is one change to the Wood Badge. It has been proposed (and I
believe agreed) that Trainers who used to be presented with Wood Badges
containing 3 or 4 beads, will just receive 2 in the future. I can't
remember the implementation date of this - but it only effects Trainers,
not everyone else who will continue to receive their standard Wood Badge.
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Andrew Bollington
Niall Williams
> Tony Flury <to...@kbss.bt.co.uk> wrote:
>>The wood badge is a tradition that dates back to the very first
>>training session run by BP (at Gilwell ?).
>>
>>Although the Association may tinker with the sylabus and maybe make it more
>>difficult to attain, I can't imagine a situation where a ordinary Section
>>Leader or assistant (and not just District, County etc) could if they
>wished
>>strive for and complete the Woodbadge.
>>
>>I haven't heard any rumours - I simply cannot beleive that the Assoc would
>>scrap such a deep rooted tradition, whcih after all is world-wide - i.e.
>even
>>the BSA do it !
>>
>>Tony Flury.
>
>Hang on hang on.
>
>This sounds like a cross wire to me. Our ABSL has just come back from
>initial training and informed us that the entire training system is being
>revamped. The old introductory, leadership I, leadership II is going to be
>replaced. I can't remember the new system, it seems complicated because it
>is built more around the "module" system - allowing leaders to choose
>modules that they need (like Beaver Leaders not doing the camping module).
>
>and the requirements for the wood badge being replaced?
>
>p.s. Trivia question: what is a pta?
>
>
>
> Dick Knight, ACSL 1st Earl Soham Scout Group.
Thank you all, for giving me what seems to be the full story. I am glad
they are not scrapping the woodbadge, I can now RIP.
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Niall Williams AVSL 73rd Groby Venture Unit
ni...@grobynet.demon.co.uk
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Cathal Walsh
>Do other districts subsidise training, if not how is the leader training in
>your group financed.
We have to pay training costs from group funds. Each year we would budget for
in the region of 500 pounds for leader training.
Cathal.
Cathal Walsh
Group Scout Leader
48th Dublin
Scouting Ireland - CBSI