Ideas for a late St George's Day Service
Byron Chatburn
I've just been asked to stand in and do the "address" at a St George's
Day Service next Sunday.
The service includes hymns and prayers, but the DC didn't want a usual
sermon so he asked me if I would do it (that and he's probably desperate
with only 9 days to go!).
The theme of the service is "Promises". Some of you bright people out
there must have helped at, or attended Scout's Own or Church Services on
this theme. Please let me have your suggestions, Powerpoint
presentations etc.!
Thanks in advance.
--
Byron Chatburn
Steve Spicer
Sorry Byron,
Our St George's Day services are so dull I tend to doze during them.
<<moan mode>>
Our group was supposed to be leading the parade this year. I thought
"Great", as I hoped to get involved with the planning and address in the
service- we have some really talented young people in the group who could
have done something excellent. But no. Leading the parade means taking the
English and United Kingdom flags to the front of the church. Thats it. The
guy in charge did his best, but it fails to inspire.
Particularly disheartening as I had arranged for the local press to be
there, and the "parade" itself (through the local town of Woburn, paet of
our "catchment") was cancelled at 24 hours notice (a long, political story).
I guess the next time I invite the press to a function they won't bother
turning out.
Plan A (original plan):
Meet at .local sports ground at 1:30pm
Parade to Church
Church service
Parade back to sports ground to finish at 4:15pm
Plan B:
Meet at church at 2:45pm
Walk across road to church
Church Srrvice
Go home
At I've mentioned, plan B was put into effect on Saturday midday, the day
before the parade. How on earth was I expected to tell everyone? In the end
I talked to a few PLs and the word sort of got around, and only 30 Scouts
turned up over an hour early at the wrong place. The service was even
delayed because someone forgot the St George and Union flags and had to go
10 miles to get them. :-)
It kind of follows on from the "professional" thread. How does such ****poor
organisation look to parents? They turn up at the prearranged meeting point
only to find a craft fair there. They then get sent through the town to
another car park and their kids have to wait around for over an hour. For at
least 6 Scouts, this was their first taste of Scouting apart from a troop
night.
Luckily, we arrange to take over the local leisure centre after the service,
so it wasn't all bad.
<<moan mode over>>
I feel better now.
--
Steve Spicer
Aspley Guise Scouts SL
http://www.aspleyguisescouts.org.uk/
Dave Mayall
<sjsp...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
>At I've mentioned, plan B was put into effect on Saturday midday, the day
>before the parade. How on earth was I expected to tell everyone? In the end
>I talked to a few PLs and the word sort of got around, and only 30 Scouts
>turned up over an hour early at the wrong place. The service was even
>delayed because someone forgot the St George and Union flags and had to go
>10 miles to get them. :-)
Ours is tomorrow :-(
It is to be a departure from previous years, in a move away from the
traditional parade-service-parade format, replaced by a new format of
short parade-short service-activity day.
Unfortunately, it looks like cock up all the way. The task of
organising it has been given to somebody with no experience. The old
farts on District are up in arms at this break with tradition. The
District St Georges flag has vanished (last seen after last years
service in the car of one of the old farts who is opposed to the new
format).
I fear the new format has been scuppered so that the old farts can
demand a return to a "proper" service next year.
--
Dave Mayall
SL 7th Stalybridge
Sam Clayton
news:N4SFVHAM...@quorn.demon.co.uk...
> The theme of the service is "Promises". Some of you bright people out
> there must have helped at, or attended Scout's Own or Church Services on
> this theme. Please let me have your suggestions, Powerpoint
> presentations etc.!
Never seen it done in a church, but get a bunch of Stage Pyrotechnics (No
really!) and a 9volt battery.
Write some inspirational piece about an event or situation you were in where
you encountered the 7 Scout Laws in action. Every time one is mentioned, off
you one of the pyros!
The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way it
should be!
Sam Clayton
Cheshire Rebel to the Council
Paul Harris
<Sco...@ukgateway.net> writes
>
>The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way it
>should be!
>
It is about time that one of us old fogies gave you a slap (again) as a
curt reminder! (These young whippersnappers just don't know about
respect). Why should we hate it and why is that the way it should be?
Is it not successful unless the older members disapprove?
You are wrong Sam. Some of us who just happen to have been around a
little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
it at all, we are still young at heart. Being a little senior in years
doesn't mean that that the enthusiasm that we had when we were younger
has gone. Many of us are still very much in tune with those we are
working with. That even includes some who are at District and/or County
level.
--
Paul Harris
Sam Clayton
news:v4+KqMC$GDD5...@harrisp.demon.co.uk...
> In article <8efm4l$nvl$4...@lure.pipex.net>, Sam Clayton
> <Sco...@ukgateway.net> writes
> >
> >The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way
it
> >should be!
> >
>
> It is about time that one of us old fogies gave you a slap (again) as a
> curt reminder! (These young whippersnappers just don't know about
> respect). Why should we hate it and why is that the way it should be?
> Is it not successful unless the older members disapprove?
Just a Joke! :-)
> You are wrong Sam. Some of us who just happen to have been around a
> little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
> it at all, we are still young at heart. Being a little senior in years
> doesn't mean that that the enthusiasm that we had when we were younger
> has gone. Many of us are still very much in tune with those we are
> working with. That even includes some who are at District and/or County
> level.
:-)
Calm Down, Calm Down!!
Our St Georges Day service was always a traditional boring affair, that all
the Scouts hated with a vengeance.
Last year, our DC (with a bit of persuasion!) got in one of those "Praise
Bands" which livened the whole thing up no end.
The flood of letters of abject horror from the more senior members of the
congregation were luckily outnumbered by those letter of support. That's
where I was coming from, and I know I was being a little bit close to the
line with my comments - but hey!
So, Byron, you've no excuse now! Get hold of the explosives and I'll come
and watch! There may be a couple of old fogies that will love it too! :-)
Cheers & YiS
Sam C.
Cheshire Young Whippersnapper to the Council
David Ball
>
> >The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way it
> >should be!
>
> little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
> it at all, we are still young at heart.
Then surely you are not a fogey... :)
David
--
Sun in the night, everyone is together,
Ascending into the heavens, life is forever.
-- Brand X, "Moroccan Roll/Sun in the Night"
Dave Mayall
<Pa...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>You are wrong Sam. Some of us who just happen to have been around a
>little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
>it at all, we are still young at heart. Being a little senior in years
>doesn't mean that that the enthusiasm that we had when we were younger
>has gone. Many of us are still very much in tune with those we are
>working with. That even includes some who are at District and/or County
>level.
In which case, why do you apply the term "fogie" to yourself?
The old fogies are the ones who boycotted our parade today, and
protested loudly to the District Exec that it was being turned into a
farce. Those long past retirement age who came along and had a good
time with the kids are *NOT* the old fogies.
Si Jerram
Sam Clayton wrote in message <8efm4l$nvl$4...@lure.pipex.net>...
>Never seen it done in a church, but get a bunch of Stage Pyrotechnics (No
>really!) and a 9volt battery.
Me neither, but the viar at my parents church in Dukinfield, Greater
Manchester
let off some of these devices in his church last Christmas.
So there's no reason this can't be done in Church!
>Write some inspirational piece about an event or situation you were in
where
>you encountered the 7 Scout Laws in action. Every time one is mentioned,
off
>you one of the pyros!
>The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way it
>should be!
Excellant.
Paul Harris
writes
>Paul Harris <Pa...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:v4+KqMC$GDD5...@harrisp.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <8efm4l$nvl$4...@lure.pipex.net>, Sam Clayton
>> <Sco...@ukgateway.net> writes
>> >
>it
>> >should be!
>> >
>>
>> curt reminder! (These young whippersnappers just don't know about
>> respect). Why should we hate it and why is that the way it should be?
>> Is it not successful unless the older members disapprove?
>
>Just a Joke! :-)
OK Sam must have missed your tongue in cheek very big smiley as you did
mine ;-) (I wasn't serious, 'onest!)
>
>> You are wrong Sam. Some of us who just happen to have been around a
>> little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
>> it at all, we are still young at heart. Being a little senior in years
>> doesn't mean that that the enthusiasm that we had when we were younger
>> has gone. Many of us are still very much in tune with those we are
>> working with. That even includes some who are at District and/or County
>> level.
>
>:-)
>
>Calm Down, Calm Down!!
>
>Our St Georges Day service was always a traditional boring affair, that all
>the Scouts hated with a vengeance.
>
>Last year, our DC (with a bit of persuasion!) got in one of those "Praise
>Bands" which livened the whole thing up no end.
We have been there and done that the last few years now, we were the
ones with the match of day tune after all
>
>The flood of letters of abject horror from the more senior members of the
>congregation were luckily outnumbered by those letter of support. That's
>where I was coming from, and I know I was being a little bit close to the
>line with my comments - but hey!
Most of us old fogies in the District didn't write in abject horror
although we did raise the point that it must be more open to all
religions. Funny that, no complaints, just helpful suggestions from the
old fogies (bah humbug etc.)
>
>So, Byron, you've no excuse now! Get hold of the explosives and I'll come
>and watch! There may be a couple of old fogies that will love it too! :-)
>
Boring old f*** reminder: Please note that you need the appropriate
paperwork for pyrotechnic displays
>Cheshire Young Whippersnapper to the Council
>
You should keep that it is the best one yet!
--
Paul Harris
Essex Scouts
http://www.essexscouts.org.uk
Paul Harris
<davi...@lycosmail.com> writes
>Paul Harris wrote:
>>
>> >The YP will love it and the old fogies will hate it, and that's the way it
>> >should be!
>>
>> little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
>> it at all, we are still young at heart.
>
>
--
Paul Harris
Paul Harris
Dave Mayall <david....@ukonline.co.uk> writes
>>little longer have not lost the spirit of adventure and would not hate
>>doesn't mean that that the enthusiasm that we had when we were younger
>>has gone. Many of us are still very much in tune with those we are
>>working with. That even includes some who are at District and/or County
>>level.
>
Perhaps I misinterpreted what Sam was implying, as I took it to mean all
those over a certain age, shall we say twenty five!
>
>The old fogies are the ones who boycotted our parade today, and
>protested loudly to the District Exec that it was being turned into a
>farce. Those long past retirement age who came along and had a good
>time with the kids are *NOT* the old fogies.
>
Isn't it marvellous how as senile dementia takes over we can return to
our youth in our dotage :-)
--
Paul Harris
Dave Mayall
<sijerra...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>Sam Clayton wrote in message <8efm4l$nvl$4...@lure.pipex.net>...
>
>>Never seen it done in a church, but get a bunch of Stage Pyrotechnics (No
>>really!) and a 9volt battery.
>
>
>Me neither, but the viar at my parents church in Dukinfield, Greater
>Manchester
>let off some of these devices in his church last Christmas.
He was the Vicar for today's service, and very well it went too,
despite organisational cock ups, and a show of quite disgraceful
childish petulance from certain people who should know a *lot* better.