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Robert Metcalf

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
chorus of Dib's and Dob's?
Due to the fact that I'm only 18, I don't even know what this means.
It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
affects. How can we get rid of it?

Dave Mayall

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<HISTORY>
DYB (not DIB) and DOB were part of the old Wolf Cub grand howl,
and stand for Do Your Best and Do Our Best respectively
</HISTORY>

As to how to deal with it, I haven't a clue.

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Jaimie Clarke

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Dib is spelt Dyb.
They stand for : Do Your Best and Do Our Best.

I believe that the cubs still use the full version today.

Jaimie
ASL 2nd Portobello Sea Scouts


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Neil Williams

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In article <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>,

Robert Metcalf <METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> wrote:
>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?
>Due to the fact that I'm only 18, I don't even know what this means.
>It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
>degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
>affects. How can we get rid of it?

Just ignore it and/or use that kind of thing back at them.

I have great fun when going to the Met Bar (Manchester Met Uni union)
after cubs. The best one was when SSAGO went after our AGM, all in
full uniform. I was standing at the bar and got dyb dyb dybbed from
the (drunk) people behind. I then proceeded to turn round and
salute them :)

But then again, if I'm mad enough to go into a student bar in uniform...

Neil
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Neil Williams

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In article <6isanh$21o$1...@biffo.sol.co.uk>,

Jaimie Clarke <news-...@boomer.sol.co.uk> wrote:
>Dib is spelt Dyb.
>They stand for : Do Your Best and Do Our Best.
>
>I believe that the cubs still use the full version today.
>
>Jaimie
>ASL 2nd Portobello Sea Scouts

No we don't (SA).

Do the BPSA still use it?

Robin Cooksey

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In article <6iscqe$msm$1...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, Neil Williams wrote:
>In article <6isanh$21o$1...@biffo.sol.co.uk>,
>Jaimie Clarke <news-...@boomer.sol.co.uk> wrote:
>>Dib is spelt Dyb.
>>They stand for : Do Your Best and Do Our Best.
>>
>>I believe that the cubs still use the full version today.
>
>No we don't (SA).

Erm... yes we do!
We do use the full version - ie
"Cubs do your best"
"We will do our best"
(or some variation there of.)

This all came up on a thread a few weeks ago.

Robin Cooksey


Robin Cooksey

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In article <6iscou$mrf$1...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, Neil Williams wrote:
>But then again, if I'm mad enough to go into a student bar in uniform...

Hmmm. I stopped going into pubs etc. in uniform after somebody got
glassed in an argument over it. (Basically, someone was taking the
micky, and someone else (who I didn't know) told them to stop. The
argument ended up with broken glass and blood everywhere. I left
quickly!)

Robin Cooksey

Neil Williams

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In article <slrn6l3h...@rbc20.quns.cam.ac.uk>,

Robin Cooksey <r...@poboxes.com> wrote:
>In article <6iscqe$msm$1...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, Neil Williams wrote:
>>In article <6isanh$21o$1...@biffo.sol.co.uk>,
>>Jaimie Clarke <news-...@boomer.sol.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Dib is spelt Dyb.
>>>They stand for : Do Your Best and Do Our Best.
>>>
>>>I believe that the cubs still use the full version today.
>>
>>No we don't (SA).
>
>Erm... yes we do!
>We do use the full version - ie
>"Cubs do your best"
>"We will do our best"
>(or some variation there of.)

Oops. Can't read :)

Robert Oram

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In article <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>, Robert Metcalf
<METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> writes

>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?
>Due to the fact that I'm only 18, I don't even know what this means.

Just ask them to explain what it means and they often shut up, then make
a joke about only making comments on subjects you know about.


--
Robert Oram
(SL) 15th Kettering
15thke...@skywing.demon.co.uk

FRAIS A

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DYB = Do your best DOB = Do our best.. When I am greeted thus I always reply
cheerfully Hi!! and move on. Tony

Simon Cook

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On 7 May 1998, Neil Williams wrote:

> >It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
> >degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
> >affects. How can we get rid of it?
>
> Just ignore it and/or use that kind of thing back at them.

I went on an exchange trip to the USA in 1990 with Coventry Scouts and
naturally we travelled in full uniform. As we got on the plane, a couple
of stewardesses who were about 22 did a dyb dyb dyb. Our leader suggested
that they were showing their age as it hadn't been used for about 25
years. They shut up at that point.

Simon


Jaimie Clarke

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Yes we do.
We don't repeat each bit 3 times but we do use..
Cubs do your best and We will do our best.
Some units adjust this very slightly but must cub units do still use this.

you must be one of the odd units out.

Jaimie
ASL 2nd Portobello Sea Scout Unit.

Neil Williams wrote in message <6iscqe$msm$1...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>...


>In article <6isanh$21o$1...@biffo.sol.co.uk>,
>Jaimie Clarke <news-...@boomer.sol.co.uk> wrote:
>>Dib is spelt Dyb.
>>They stand for : Do Your Best and Do Our Best.
>>
>>I believe that the cubs still use the full version today.
>>

>>Jaimie
>>ASL 2nd Portobello Sea Scouts
>

>No we don't (SA).
>

>Do the BPSA still use it?
>

Trevor Rhodes

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On Thu, 7 May 1998, Simon Cook wrote:

> I went on an exchange trip to the USA in 1990 with Coventry Scouts and
> naturally we travelled in full uniform. As we got on the plane, a couple
> of stewardesses who were about 22 did a dyb dyb dyb. Our leader suggested
> that they were showing their age as it hadn't been used for about 25
> years. They shut up at that point.
>

But when travelling to the States as a Scout you should always fly on an
American carrier. Reason - the British International scarf (neckerchief)
looks remarkably similar to the American Eagle Scout scarf, which commands
a great degree of respect.

trevor

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Colin Chaplin

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Robert Metcalf wrote in message <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>...

>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?

Have to agree with this. Me and my friends (who happen to be SL, ACSL and a
CSL) were travelling along a small windy country road (glen clova to glen
doll if anyone knows the area, you'll know what the road is like) to go
hiking.

Come across a plonker who had been going too fast and lost it on a
corner...car ended up through a dyke. Driver was OK, but once person had
bloody face (fractured cheekbone by my guess - REALLY swollen) and a young
girl in shock. Another bloke with sore leg. Being all qualified first
aiders, we got the situation sorted(cube from icebox as cold pack,
encouraging the driver not to smoke considering a smashed up car was in the
vicinity etc), probably avoiding other crashes by slowing down other cars
approaching.

Anyway, to cut a long story short and get to my point. When ambulance driver
arrives and sees girl that has shock covered with blanket with scout badges
he says:
'Aye, Dib Dib Dib.......'

Grrr.....


Colin

--
ASL 12th Dundee

Kevin Naughton

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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> From: Simon Cook <sjoh...@sable.ox.ac.uk>
>
> (snip)

> Our leader suggested that they were showing their age as it hadn't
> been used for about 25 years. They shut up at that point.

Exactly my tactic! Works well, at least for younger people. AFAIK the DYB,
DYB, DYB went out of the AS at the time of the Advance Party in the late 60s.

Kevin.

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Hilary A Croughton

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In article <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>, Robert Metcalf
<METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> writes

>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a


>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?

>Due to the fact that I'm only 18, I don't even know what this means.

>It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
>degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
>affects. How can we get rid of it?

Try ignoring it. Especially in public places, so that plenty of people
see that it doesn't bother you. (Why does it bother you?)

(I'm not unsympathetic. I spent 3 years travelling up and down to
London in Sea Ranger uniform. The phrase "Hello, sailor" still makes me
shudder. So does hearing Rod Stewart's song "Sailing".)
--
Hilary

Kevin Naughton

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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> From: Hilary A Croughton <ha...@j-t-academy.demon.co.uk>
>
> (snip)

> So does hearing Rod Stewart's song "Sailing".

Me too, but only for musical reasons! :-)

Andrew Whitelaw

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The message <6isp0p$gcl$1...@phys-ma.sol.co.uk>
from "Colin Chaplin" <Co...@ScoutBase.org.uk> contains these words:

> Robert Metcalf wrote in message <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>...

> >Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
> >chorus of Dib's and Dob's?

> Have to agree with this. Me and my friends (who happen to be SL, ACSL and a


> CSL) were travelling along a small windy country road (glen clova to glen
> doll if anyone knows the area, you'll know what the road is like) to go
> hiking.

I usually ask in innocence what they mean because I have never used
it before. That normally works although one bloke said that I must be
lying because he saw Russ Abbot doing it!!

Clova raod.... know it well, I have spent many a night in the Clova
Inn/Ogilvie Arms (depending upon how old you are)

Andy Whitelaw
SL 40th Fife
ADC(S) Dunfermline District

Steve Spicer

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Kevin Naughton wrote in message ...


>> From: Hilary A Croughton <ha...@j-t-academy.demon.co.uk>
>>
>> (snip)
>> So does hearing Rod Stewart's song "Sailing".
>
>Me too, but only for musical reasons! :-)
>
>Kevin.
>


Best I've encountered is 25 skinheads in a tube train singing a chorus of
"Riding along on the crest of a wave" at considerable volume, much to the
bemusement of the 12 or so cubs with me at the time.

One wonders how they knew the words.


Steve Spicer

Oliver Benson

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Robert Metcalf <METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> wrote:

>It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
>degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
>affects. How can we get rid of it?

If anyone says that to you turn the tables. Deny all knowledge of it
(ie "what??") and ask them to explain it. If they do explain it, tell
them it hasn't been used for 25 years and say "Jees - you're showing
your age." Should soon shut them up.


Olly.


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Dave Gunter

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>
><HISTORY>
>DYB (not DIB) and DOB were part of the old Wolf Cub grand howl,
>and stand for Do Your Best and Do Our Best respectively
></HISTORY>
>
What do you mean, old Wolf Cub Grand Howl :)
--
Dave Gunter - CM / SiC 1st Moorlands Wolf Cubs B-PSA

Frank Botham

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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> I usually ask in innocence what they mean because I have never used
> it before. That normally works although one bloke said that I must be
> lying because he saw Russ Abbot doing it!!

Anyone who says "dyb dyb dyb, dob dob dob" to you must have heard it
from watching Russ Abbott. This alone should provide you with enough
ammunition to shut them up.

Simply ask them, "what other jokes have you heard off the Russ Abbott
show you funny, funny person?"

Frank.

Trevor Rhodes

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On Fri, 8 May 1998, Frank Botham wrote:

>
> Simply ask them, "what other jokes have you heard off the Russ Abbott
> show you funny, funny person?"
>

But can you come up with a non-recursive retort. If you're in a position
to assume that they've been watching Russ Abbot, then they must be able to
spot a potential reply...

Bill Neobard

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In article <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>, Robert Metcalf
<METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> writes
>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?
>Due to the fact that I'm only 18, I don't even know what this means.
>It's a minor question how Scouts attained this image, but it dose have a
>degrotry affect on recruitment of Cubs and Scouts, as well as other bad
>affects. How can we get rid of it?

Putting down people who say it, is no answer, I'm afraid.
What is it about the words that upset us, I wonder? (I don't like it
either!)
If it's just that it's old-fashioned, so what?
If it makes us feel silly, why? We (sorry B-PSA) don't use it, and we
know that -so what's the problem?
--
Bill Neobard

Chris Wilkinson

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In article <6isp0p$gcl$1...@phys-ma.sol.co.uk>, Colin Chaplin
<Co...@ScoutBase.org.uk> writes

>Anyway, to cut a long story short and get to my point. When ambulance driver
>arrives and sees girl that has shock covered with blanket with scout badges
>he says:
> 'Aye, Dib Dib Dib.......'
^ ^ ^

>
>Grrr.....

Spelling different in Dundee then?

Do your best!

CHRIS
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Colin Chaplin

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Chris >>Anyway, to cut a long story short and get to my point. When


ambulance driver
>>arrives and sees girl that has shock covered with blanket with scout
badges
>>he says:
>> 'Aye, Dib Dib Dib.......'
> ^ ^ ^
>
>>
>>Grrr.....
>
>Spelling different in Dundee then?
>
>Do your best!
>

No, Even in the wilds of Scotland Do You Best is DYB, it was an accurate
representation of the ambulance bloke - showing and even greater Ignorance
:)

Colin


Brian Cockburn

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Robert,

The Wolf Cub grand howl with DYB and DOB in is still used in the
FSE. I'll post the full text if you're interested.

Yours in Scouting, Brian ACM, RSL.


Hilary A Croughton

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>In article <355218...@ctksfc.ac.uk>, Robert Metcalf
><METC...@ctksfc.ac.uk> writes
>
>>Why is it every time I say to someone that I am a Scout leader, I get a
>>chorus of Dib's and Dob's?

In article <EzjqECAw...@j-t-academy.demon.co.uk>, Hilary A
Croughton <ha...@j-t-academy.demon.co.uk> writes

>Try ignoring it. Especially in public places, so that plenty of people
>see that it doesn't bother you. (Why does it bother you?)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In another post, Bill Neobard wrote:

>If it's just that it's old-fashioned, so what?
>If it makes us feel silly, why? We (sorry B-PSA) don't use it, and we
>know that -so what's the problem?

So where are the answers?

Why do some of you react so strongly to other people's idiocy?

(This is not meant to be sarcastic, I genuinely want to know. I have
this strange interest in what makes people tick <g> )

--
Hilary
Between Groups but with hope

Chris Anderson

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May 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/9/98
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Simply ask whoever says "dyb, dyb, dyb, etc" to you why they think that
it is even remotely funny?

Trevor Rhodes

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On Fri, 8 May 1998, Hilary A Croughton wrote:

> So where are the answers?
>
> Why do some of you react so strongly to other people's idiocy?
>

I think it's not the demonstration of ignorance that causes us a problem -
since we all like someone reminding us that we're better than them.
However, someone saying "dyb, dyb, dyb," is making a cheap crack trying to
suggest that we are a trivial organisation. It is that which we don't
like.

> (This is not meant to be sarcastic, I genuinely want to know. I have
> this strange interest in what makes people tick <g> )
>

It's probably because most of us end up having to work alongside complete
idiots clearing up mistakes (guess who's bitter - grr...)

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Tim Pomfret

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try not to get wound up...Treat the ignorance with what it deserves...
and Ignore it!!
we know better
regards
Tim Pomfret
1st silver end challenger Cubs (Essex)
If interested their web site is on;
http://www.geocites.com/yosemite/rapids/6245


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Chris Atkinson

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In article <#fazTgfe...@upnetnews02.moswest.msn.net>, Steve Spicer
<sjsp...@msn.com> writes

>Best I've encountered is 25 skinheads in a tube train singing a chorus of
>"Riding along on the crest of a wave" at considerable volume, much to the
>bemusement of the 12 or so cubs with me at the time.
>
>One wonders how they knew the words.

Yup, sounds just like one of our Units ... were any of the blokes there
as well?

(Dives into wetpit as flames land nearby...I wuz joking - honest I wuz)

Chris A.
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Graham Holland

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And lo, it came to pass that.."Jaimie Clarke"
<news-...@boomer.sol.co.uk> did spake:

>Yes we do.
>We don't repeat each bit 3 times but we do use..
>Cubs do your best and We will do our best.

Actually, the original Grand Howl (as still used by the B-PSA) uses
four DYBs and four DOBs.

Sixer: "DYB, DYB, DYB, DYB"

Cubs: "Weeeee'll DOB, DOB, DOB, DOB"


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Trevor Rhodes

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On Sun, 10 May 1998, Graham Holland wrote:

> Actually, the original Grand Howl (as still used by the B-PSA) uses
> four DYBs and four DOBs.
>
> Sixer: "DYB, DYB, DYB, DYB"
>
> Cubs: "Weeeee'll DOB, DOB, DOB, DOB"
>

hmmm... smacks of those "who can urinate highest" competitions ;-).

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