Thanks
Geoff
I asked my own pet expert, Bob Heslop of 4th (Oaklands) Sea Scout Group in
Gosforth, Newcastle. And here is his reply.
"Yes it is from TS Discovery (RRS Discovery), I learnt it on a SSL course in
1979 or so. It is one of the knots that Sea Scouts use to tie their neckers.
At one time Sea Scouts were not allowed to use woggles.
Shorten the left leg of the necker, take the right leg round the left twice
(a round turn!) bring the running end up through where the neck is and lose
it in the knot. It is like tying a tie.
The result should be that the knot is just above the Sea Scout logo on the
jersey, with the tail a couple of inches long. The necker should go over the
head without untying the knot.
I hope this is clear. We use it at Oaklands Sea Scouts, I brought it in. the
trouble is that Martin and Colin use it too, and I think it looks awful with
a buttoned up shirt. It would be OK with the open colarless neck available
in mushroom for use with the necker.
Take care.
Bosun."
So I find that I been using it when I was young lad in a Sea Scout Troop and
never known its name. So there you are, it just shows we live and learn.
--
Martin Honor
GSL 1st Somerton
These views do not necessarily reflect those of the rest of my Group or
District
> Take care.
> Bosun."
That's it Martin! Thanks. One minor difference, the left leg was
shortened by doubling twice, like a letter "Z". IIRC the trick was
to adjust the "tails" so that they *just* projected below the knot.
Of course TS Discovery is no longer in London, and the "London Sea
Scouts" that were based on TS Discovery are now based on HQTS Lord
Amory in the Docklands.
Thanks again, Martin and pass my thanks to Bob please.
Geoff (Sea Scout leader in a tree Scout Troop!)
> That's it Martin! Thanks. One minor difference, the left leg was
> shortened by doubling twice, like a letter "Z". IIRC the trick was
> to adjust the "tails" so that they *just* projected below the knot.
This is the version I know, having been taught by a Sea Scout (note the
capitals Sam!) from 1st Norwich - this is how they wear it, and it looks
very smart when they're all in uniform - as long as they remember which side
of the necker to fold in!
It's also useful to know when I've lost my woggle :-)
Steve <steve...@ntlworld.com>
296th Sheffield Scouts Website
www.296.org.uk
> Sea Scout (note the capitals Sam!)
When I was a Sea Scout Leader in a mixed group (Sea Scouts and
tree scouts), it was always recognised that WE were the senior
troop, hence the capitals!
:-)
[Discovery knot]
> It's also useful to know when I've lost my woggle :-)
Yep!
Geoff
> When I was a Sea Scout Leader in a mixed group (Sea Scouts and
> tree scouts), it was always recognised that WE were the senior
> troop, hence the capitals!
Ahh, but I'm sticking to capitals for us Dirt Scouts, at least in my group
(Group?) ...
I am, of course, firmly of the opinion that my Group is the best in the
country, but isn't everyone ;-) however, visiting the HQ of 1st Norwich is a
whole other experience - the history of the Group is there to see -
including the propeller from the Group's own seaplane (!), not sure how far
it dates back.
Can you imaging the Adventurous Activity Forms for THAT???
But of course !
Which is the Senior Service ?
Nowdays, of course, I find myself as SL of a non-Sea Scout troop - we're
still the best in France, but only just :-)
YiS
Dominic Macdonald
Troupe 1ère Nantes (AFSGC)