Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony
8th Worthing Cubs
are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise, as
the Scouts do?
John Ferguson
that I can find). As long as the Cub understands the Law and Promise and
makes the Promise, then I don't see why the Cub cannot have his/her hand
on the flag if you want him/her to.
But, having said that I think that it is important to have the
investiture as informal as possible - more as if the new Cub is joining
the Cub/Scouting family rather than a formal organisation. So, I
personally would not use the flag in that way.
Personal choice rules the day, but ask around at the District CSL
meeting and see how others do it locally.
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>Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony, Specifically
>are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise, as
>the Scouts do?
>
>
Surely _all_ ceremonies are custom and practice; if not there must be
lot of different editions of the well known book " Precise rules for
Scouting ceremonies".
--
Bill Neobard
James Smith
>
> Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony, Specifically
> are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise, as
> the Scouts do?
As long as they accept the promise there is no problem - it's a bit
difficult to hold a flag:
underwater; underground; halfway down a climbing tower;
in the middle of Kielder Reservoir; at the top of a set of flumes;
standing on the top of a hill; at laserquest;
on an adventure playground; in the dome of an observatory;
Make it fun! and make it memorable! (and above all get a photo
if you can)
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John Trott
I'm not sure I agree. We have the boy brought to the front where he places
his left hand on the flag and makes the scout sign. The pack comes to alert
and makes the scout sign and the boy makes the promise. aloud so that
everyone in the hall (His family are invited) can hear. Cubs are fun,
Promises are very very serious.
John.
John Ferguson wrote in message <7k7jg4$e25$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <7k6buv$895$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>,
> "8th Worthing Cubs" <sco...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony,
>Specifically
>> are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the
>promise, as
>> the Scouts do?
>>
>>
>AFAIK there are no 'rules' on Cub Scout Investiture (nothing in POR
>that I can find). As long as the Cub understands the Law and Promise and
>makes the Promise, then I don't see why the Cub cannot have his/her hand
>on the flag if you want him/her to.
>
>But, having said that I think that it is important to have the
>investiture as informal as possible - more as if the new Cub is joining
>the Cub/Scouting family rather than a formal organisation. So, I
>personally would not use the flag in that way.
>
>Personal choice rules the day, but ask around at the District CSL
>meeting and see how others do it locally.
>
>--
>John Ferguson
>CSL 1st Cove Otters
>
>
John Trott
I'm not sure I agree. We have the boy brought to the front where he places
his left hand on the flag and makes the scout sign. The pack comes to alert
and makes the scout sign and the boy makes the promise. aloud so that
everyone in the hall (His family are invited) can hear. Cubs are fun,
Promises are very very serious.
John.
cubs and that if when they are 100 years old I see them breaking the promise
as I'm cycling home from my girlfriends I will leap from my bike and
challenge them.
john.
John Ferguson
"John Trott" <Jo...@pctrott.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> John,
> I'm not sure I agree. We have the boy brought to the front where he
places
> his left hand on the flag and makes the scout sign. The pack comes to
alert
> and makes the scout sign and the boy makes the promise. aloud so that
> everyone in the hall (His family are invited) can hear. Cubs are fun,
> Promises are very very serious.
> John.
> P.S. I also explain that the promise is not just for the period
they're in
> cubs and that if when they are 100 years old I see them breaking the
promise
> as I'm cycling home from my girlfriends I will leap from my bike and
> challenge them.
> john.
>
John,
Our investitures are similar - the flag is there, but held by one of the
sixers. The new cub does not hold it. His sixer stands beside him during
the ceremomy and places his six woggle on his scarf after the GSL (If he
can make it) has put his group scarf round his neck.
I gave up cycling home from my girlfriends over 24 years ago - just
about the time we got married. Let me tell you something you may already
know - you won't recognise that 6' 2" tall ex cub 10 years on, when he
walks by you in the street and says "Hello Akela!"
kevin cottrill
>
> Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony, Specifically
> are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise, as
> the Scouts do?
I am a Scout Leader With 3rd Farnham Scouts and
all so help with the Cub Pack.
On Tuesday Arkaler Invested Four New Beavers And he made the New Cubs
Put their Left Hand on the Flag and do the Scout sign with the other So
I would say Yes its is O.K. to do this.
Yours in Scouting
Kevin Cottrill Scout Leader.
Dave Mayall
<bi...@neobard.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <7k6buv$895$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, 8th Worthing Cubs
><sco...@btinternet.com> writes
>>Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony, Specifically
>>are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise, as
>>the Scouts do?
>>
>>
>Allowed -by whom, please?
>
>Surely _all_ ceremonies are custom and practice; if not there must be
>lot of different editions of the well known book " Precise rules for
>Scouting ceremonies".
Do you mean you don't have a copy?
I *do* have a copy of a small booklet called (IIRC) Ceremonies of the
Scout Movement, but it is from before the advance party!
I've rarely seen the pack flag used in cub investitures, and I'm sure
I have seen something in one of the section handbooks which says that
the flag isn't used, but at the end of the day it comes down to what
you and your pack are happiest with.
Personally I wouldn't use it, because I feel that sufficient solemnity
for the age group is provided without the addition of the flag, wheras
in the Scout section the flag provides a useful focus during an
investiture.
The other advantage which the flag brings to Scout investitures (as
Ewan can testify) is that it provides a valuable curtain in front of
my knees when I'm investing Scouts on camp whilst wearing Shorts!
--
Dave Mayall
SL 7th Stalybridge
Roy Wells
Does anybody know if it is still available, and if so from where?
Bill Neobard <bi...@neobard.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>In article <7k6buv$895$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, 8th Worthing Cubs
><sco...@btinternet.com> writes
>>Has anybody got information on Cub Scout Investiture Ceremony,
Specifically
>>are they allowed to place their hands on flag whilst making the promise,
as
>>the Scouts do?
>>
>>
>Allowed -by whom, please?
>
>Surely _all_ ceremonies are custom and practice; if not there must be
>lot of different editions of the well known book " Precise rules for
>Scouting ceremonies".
>--
>Bill Neobard