This is purely voluntary but can I suggest that we do that again as yet
again I have lost the plot!!
I'll go first...
I have been in scouting since I was 8 but took a few years off while we bred
3 children
As a Venture scout I completed my QSA but we didn't do DofE. I spent several
years as a VSL in Bexleyheath, Bracknell and Cardiff but when I moved to
Gillingham transferred to Scouts as it was more convenient for domestic
arrangements (BIG mistake)
I was ASL/SL in Gillingham for 10 years and now ADC(Scouts) and ESL of the
Agathoid ESU which has combined with the Barbarians to give us a total
membership of 28 YP and 6 leaders.
My Youngest is a scout, just got her Gold CSA and is about to move to our
Unit, my middle one is about to move from the Unit to Network and is
thinking about starting a second Beaver Colony at our host HQ with his
girlfriend and my eldest is just about to do his QSA/GOLD DofeE but can't
stand kids and so is "just" a networker, although he has just started to
train some of our Bronze expedition teams.
Outside of scouting my hobbies are playing music (Bass Guitar and Keyboards)
and Bushcraft without kids around.
--
Stephen Rainsbury
ADC(Scouts) Gillingham Kent
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens" - Jimi Hendrix
This means I am not a Christian but don't deny the existence of a God or
accept it, and I say my Promise to "My Dharma" as cocvered in the relevant
factsheet :-)
And yes I am bald and fat* and smile alot :-)
* But decreasing!!
I'm a third generation Scout / Scouter in Calgary, Canada. I'm trying
to find a Rover crew that fits my schedule. At the moment I advise a
Venturer Company and have my beads for both Venturers and Cubs. I also
try and take on council and jamboree volunteer roles when I can, and
work at Scout sponsored camps in the summer. I have 7 years of youth
experience and this is my 4th year as a leader. I'm also the webmaster
for my group and the site can be found at 227scouts.ca
I clicked on your 'Announcements' and found something that i hadn't heard
since I went to the States with our scouts 20 years ago.
" Announcements, Announcements, Announcements!
A terrible death to die,
A terrible death to die
A terrible death to be talked to death
A terrible death to die."
We were n this huge American scout camp and every morning when the warden
got up to give the notices if he ever said the word 'reminder' the whole
dining hall of hundreds of scouts and Leaders would start-up this ditty, "
Reminders, reminders, reminders... A terrible death etc etc..."
For us British lot it was totally amazing and overwhelming... we stood there
gobsmacked... and the warden could do nothing to stop it...
The other thing was table manners!
Our scouts had been 'schooled' by an elderly leader of ours into having good
table manner, he told us that ALL American young people have impeccable
manners and ask politely for things to be passed over the table etc.
So, we were with a table of New York city kids, a massive black, bald police
sergeant Leader...
and he announced, " Any one want seconds... " immediatly the American lads
launched themselves bodily forward over the table, with the Leader standing
wielding a spatula shouting, "Let the Britishers have some....!"
The second morning our kids needed no lessons on table manners.....
It was a multi-national invasion of the table!
The other thing at that camp was the Group Yell as we arrived at flag.
We simply couldn't comete with the USA scouts on their own terms, just
didn't have the style.
So, we went British, and they were gobsmacked and loved-it.
We started in the usual 'rugby scrum' circle....
Then stand and let rip in a bone china posh english accent...
"We have a yell
A jolly decent yell
And -we're- going- to -yell -like -hell.
North South East West
We Are The Best
(Lone voice) Jolly decent eh chaps
(All) RATHER! "
Everywhere we went, as soon as they saw us, " Jolly decent eh chaps?"
It grew very wearing as we muttered, "Rather..."
Eddie Langdown GSL 16th Bermondsey, London
http://bermondseyscout.co.uk/
47 years old, married with two pre teen children. A Cub (5th Tolworth)
but not a Scout (joined the ATC instead). Served in the TA for 17 years
and when I left a friend from Church (I'm not a Christian - I'm an
Anglican!?) wanted to start Scouts in the Village and asked me if I
wanted to take over the Cubs. Thought I had something to offer so said
yes. This was about five years ago and I'm just learning to cope now!
Otherwise fishing, shooting and bellringing fill spare time. Live in
rural Lancashire and work for a very large engineering company.
>A few years back we had a roll call so that everybody could say a few words
>( I said FEW words) just to let newcomers knew who as who and we got to know
>a bit about them.
>
>This is purely voluntary but can I suggest that we do that again as yet
>again I have lost the plot!!
>
>I'll go first...
<snip>
I was a Cub at 8 in 1969, Scout, Venture Scout. Nothing major in the
way of awards. Then member of the local Scout Fellowship (all in
Horley, where Derek Twine was a leader.)
I'm still a mamber of the SF but my other job is an ASL in Crawley,
which is in another county and where I live. I've been in the role
now for 3 or 4 years and am trying to get through the training as well
as help run the section.
Other interests are cycling, cycling and a bit more cycling. And the
outdoor stuff, hiking, climbing, scrambling etc.
Tim
I was not in Scouting as a child. I was in Woodcraft Folk, Boy's
Brigade and then the ATC. After that I went into the Army until they
discovered that I was asthmatic, so I left and did an engineering
apprenticeship in Bedfordshire.
My daughter has gone through Rainbows, Brownies and is now in Guides.
My son started Beavers in April 05 but left after a few months 'because
it was too loud'. I have his name down for Cubs at my current Group.
How did I get involved in Scouts? Shortly after my son started there
was an announcement that the Group needed a GSL, SL and ASL if it was
to continue. I had always said that, having got so much out of youth
organisations when younger I would one day put something back and this
seemed the right opportunity. It was an interesting Group based on a
PGL activity centre.
Come September circumstances changed and so I moved Group to Oswestry
Vikings Scout Troop, where I am very happy. I am currently about 3/4 of
the way through the modular training scheme.
Outside of Scouting, I work in telecommunications for a utility company
and my spare time (outside of scouting) is spent ferrying my daughter
between various activities.
So that's me.
Regards,
Stephen
ASL Oswestry Vikings
I started life as a beaver in Penge. I came across a letter the other
day from the GSL saying that Beavers were now an approved section and
we'd be making a promise and wearing a scarf etc. this was a year after
joining: so I lay claim to being one of the first beavers. I cubbed
for a while in Beckenham and when the family moved to sweden, I was a
scout in the British group in Stockholm (St George's?)
Back to England, and I was a scout and a venture in Beckenham and West
Wickham. (Nasty politics closed one unit but I moved on to another)
Jamboree in '95 and QSA. As part of the QSA i started helping at
beavers... and as cubs followed beavers, i hung around for that. About
3 years ago i was throuroughly depressed at out rubbish scout leader
and offered to help... took a warrant and we have not heard from nor
seen him in 6 months. He used to have 12 or so scouts. it peaked
occasionally at 18... now we have 50! fortunately they don't all turn
up every week... phew. Have the title of Leader-in charge as we have
not got a GSL and somebody needs to go to occasional district meetings.
Doing courses for air rifles and achery so we can use our equipment
more...oh and kayaking's next... busy busy.
Training completed a couple of years ago... but wood badgeless due to a
lack of trainin team etc in the county. Paperwork never seems to reach
the right person. I won't cause a fuss, unlesss they start asking why i
haven't got it yet :-)
Outside of scouting? Walking and scrambling and normal cultural stuff,
cinema, theatre, gigs etc. Watching sport, drinking and generally
having fun. Oh and I'm 28
I was a scout back in the dim and distant past, after finishing scouts
work and other stuff contrived to keep me away from things untill my
son joined cubs and of course they were looking for exec committee
members, 2 years of that then over to ASL for 2 years then SL and been
there ever since.
Son left scouting after Ventures but has retained his love of the
outdoors (so thats where all my kit has gone!) when hes not some
thousand feet under the sea working on one of HM submarines
When we started explorers, I took on ESL, - but did give up ADC (S) -
and since then as some will know from my postings I have got heavily
involved as a volunteer at Youlbury Scout Activity centre where I can
be found most weekends when troop or unit activities allow
Mike
SL 1st Stanford In The Vale Scout Troop
ESL White Horse ESU
Oxfordshire
I've been in Guiding for 22 years, from Brownie upwards, and have been a
Guider for 12 of those years. I've moved around a fair bit - Guiding in
Wirral County, London, Oxfordshire, online [NetGuides], Berkshire, Devon
and have recently moved to Cambridgeshire. I don't have a unit here yet
but am planning to find one ready for September. I'm mainly a Guide
Guider, but have done Brownies.
I have an amateur radio licence (M1FGO) but you're more likely to find
me at GB4YOU, Youlbury Scout Camp's shack. I generally just use my
licence for Thinking Day and Jamboree on the Air. *Regarding the future,
if a Radio Scouting Fellowship kicks off, I shall join that.
You can also find me on Scoutlink.
In other life, I'm a research scientist, working on clouds, now at
Cardington Airfield. I do a lot of crafts, play around with computers,
read a lot and enjoy visiting stately homes and steam engines. I also
enjoy cooking, traditionally serving freshly baked cakes to newcomers
and, if URS manage to get me to a F2F (Face to Face newsgroup meet up)
to oldtimers too. Seeing as there's such a flux of newcomers right now,
see below for cake.
AEndr
(also called Amanda, but there's an Amanda on here and I have an
alternate nick, so I'm using that.)
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TEA TROLLEY:
Today's cakes are chocolate cake, lemon and ginger marble cake [dairy
free] and, for a bit of a change, cinnamon and chocolate danish
pastries. Please do not leave crumbs on the keyboard.
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--
White Rabbit: I'm so late! I'm so very, very late!
Mad Hatter: Well no wonder you're late...Why, this clock is exactly
two days slow!
-- Lewis Carroll
Cardington, that's where the airships used to be based? Used to live across
the road from them back in 80's.
--
Amanda Lawrence (Akela)
Dragons & Griffins
2nd/4th Barry Cub Scouts
-- Lewis Carroll
I have two sons (11 & 8), the eldest is in Scouts and the youngest has
just started in Cubs. When my eldest was due to move from Beavers to
Cubs, I went along to the Group AGM, to see what it was all about.
There was the usual plea for leaders and I turned to the lady in
uniform behind me and asked about being a leader. It turned out that
she was the DC and the rest as they say is history!
I am fortunate in that in our Group we have both a very experienced CSL
& GSL, who are able to teach me a lot (the stream of e-mails has to be
seen to be believed sometimes!), and I am currently and gradually
working my way thro' the training modules. My aim is to get my wood
badge in less than the five years that it took the last leader from our
Group, but how realistic that is I am not sure!
As for hobbies, they have taken a back seat since my involvement with
Scouting, which does seem to take over. I have just had a look our
current programme and there is only one weekend in May and one weekend
in June without anything to do with Scouting (and on the one in May I
was on a training course!).
Now all I have got to do is persuade "She who must be obeyed", to
get involved!
Peter
ACSL - 2nd Bracknell - Scouting for Bullbrook & Warfield -
www.2ndbracknell.co.uk
Shop online http://buy.at/2ndbracknell. You get good prices, we get
commission.
Been lurking with sporadic postings for close to 10 years. I turn too
old for Network in four days time. Was a Cub Leader before University,
then helped at a Scout Troop for a couple of years. Once I finished
there a few of us decided to start an Explorer Unit on the condition
that we were allowed to do it properly and the District didn't complain
about us having six Leaders while other units struggled with one.
Gained my Wood Badge last year but it was last seen in the DESComm's
briefcase!
Gained QSA while in Ventures and going away tomorrow to do my D of E
Gold expedition (yes, I'm cutting it a little fine!)
Also a member of Ormskirk Crew - a more activity based Fellowship - and
I have a "role" for Scouting 2007 which obviously means I'm busy until
2008.
In real life I'm a freelance web developer.
Mike
Im (another) Mike, aged 17, have been in Scouting since i was around 5
and a half, so that makes it 11 and a half years. I went to Beavers,
Cubs, and Scouts at First Middleforth in Penwortham, am now a lunatic
young leader for 1st Middleforth Beavers and Cubs.
Currently balancing that, college, a bugger of a weekend job, and
Explorer Scouts.
Somehow i still have time to lurk (and very occasionally post) on URS,
which i have done for the past 2 maybe 3 years.
Now working to DofE Bronze, hoping to start Silver over the summer.
Anyway thats enough rambling.
Mike
I've been involved with Girlguiding UK since I joined them in 1988 as a
10 year old Brownie (the local guide unit opened 6 months later) and of
course they haven't been able to get rid of me since. Have worked with
all the sections over my 13 years as a leader sometimes officially
sometimes just helping out unofficially. I am currently a Guide Guider
and District Young Leader Guider. Oh and I've recently finished being
on the national working group for the senior section (14-26 year olds)
evaluation which was great.
Scouting wise, I've known a bit about scouting since I was in my early
to mid teens (scout boyfriends) and at one point used to watch one of
the local scout bands practice every week. Anyway in the year 2000 I
gave birth to a boy and knew perfectly well he'd never be a Brownie!!!!
Whilst I've been working with Girlguiding UK on the evaluation of the
senior section programme I have been looking into how the explorers and
network work for ideas as they are obviously the equivalents to our
senior section. During this time I discovered that kids can now start
beavers at 5 3/4 and so this January my son started Beavers (was 6 in
Feb) and did his promise the week of his 6th birthday.
Anyway as i knew some of the leaders I used to stay, chat and help out
and by February half term I realised I had only gone home once since my
son started and so decided it was about time they made me official as a
volunteer, when I did the CRB the other week the GSL asked me if it
should be leader or helper and me being me never needs my arm twisting
too far and said Leader well if I'm there I might as well do it
properly.
So there we go I'm new but I've read quite a lot and I'm looking
forward to my future in Scouting even to the point I'm tempted to try
to organise taking some of the Beavers on an overnight eventually.
wouldn't take all of them as we have 22 kids at the moment and some of
them are monsters!!!!
But to be honest I think Guiding will soon be seeing the back of me as
there seems to be a serious lack of communication in my area which has
now gone too far!!!
Louise C
I am Stuart Ganney, aged 46 (but don't act it) and originally from
Kettering in Northants. I was in the 1st Barton Seagrave Scouts from
1971 to 76, and my best memories are of the Kettering Gang Show. My
highest award was the Scout Standard, and I didn't move up to Ventures
as I was more interested in sailing at the weekends.
Like so many, I got involved again when my son was in the cub pack,
back in 1999. I helped with Cubs and then took over the Scout troop in
2001 when the former leader and GSL had to increase his time
commitments at work. My son in now in Explorers, and I continue to run
the troop because it is so much fun to do.
I have been a Christian since age 18, and regard my work in Scouting as
something that God wants me to do. I find the aims, ethos and law to
be an excellent fulfilment of Jesus' teachings on "love your neighbour
as yourself". And I am delighted to share this work with Buddhists,
Muslims, atheists and everyone else. If we are all doing the same
thing, we will all achive the same common goal and make the world a
better place.
Outside Scouting I work in computer networks, have an understanding
wife and 2 teenage kids, and still enjoy sailing my dinghy on
Southampton Water.
Stuart Ganney
14th Southampton.
P.S. - Hi to my Scouting buddies Nico, Phil, Linda and Tom, who all
visit ukrs from time to time.
Hi my name is NJ (Nick) and I am an addict.... (Hang on that's not
right)
Let me try again.
I've bin in scouting since I was 6. At the time the beaver was a
little tubby and they have since put him on a diet. (Can somebody
confirm this). I've worked through all the sections up to network.
Favourite thing I've done with scouts was take part in the Thailand
WSJ. I'm currently working toward my DofE Gold. For half the year
while at Uni I do no scouting, except occasional camps, for the other
half when I'm back home I assist with cubs, scouts and explorers.
I am a tax dodger, in my second year of reading something equally
useless and difficult. This summer I'm off to the USA to work on a
YMCA camp for 9 weeks.
Hobbies outside of scouting include climbing, canoeing, pool and music.
NJ
> Cardington, that's where the airships used to be based? Used to live across
> the road from them back in 80's.
Yes, I work with helium balloons, rather smaller than the airships, but
rather bigger than an Icelandic patrol tent.
AEndr
--
White Rabbit: I'm so late! I'm so very, very late!
Mad Hatter: Well no wonder you're late...Why, this clock is exactly
two days slow!
-- Lewis Carroll
I went on to ASL at 18, SL at 20, GSL at 21 and ADC(Scouts) at 30. I
have since been ADC(Activities), ADC(Development) and am now ADC(Group
Support) and act as deputy to the DC (I have been deputy to four
different DC's over the years) and a member of District Exec. for longer
than anyone can remember. As ADC(GS) I am responsible for the line
management of the local GSL's among other things.
I have been on the Exec of the Divisional Property Management Committee
for many years and was Chairman of the local Centre of Excellence (Camp
Site) for a few years. I was one of a small team that set up and ran
the County Web Site and I have been on the County PR and Image committee
although I have no direct involvement now.
I am also a member of SBUK and some related H.Q.'s committees and I am a
TA (Training Advisor) to a DESC, ADC(S) and ESL.
--
Paul Harris
> This is purely voluntary but can I suggest that we do that again
> as yet again I have lost the plot!!
My Mum and Dad ran a troop before I was born (Mum's still involved in
Scouting, Dad isn't). I started as a Beaver with the 5th Meadway then
moved to Cubs with the 44th. We then moved to Hassocks and I joined 1st
Hassocks Cubs for a term before moving to Scouts. Whilst at Scouts I did
my 6 weeks service with the pack (which my Mum was ACSL, later CSL of)
and never left. Gained Chief Scouts Challenege and Award before moving to
Ventures at 1st Hurstpierpoint. Became an ACSL with 1st Hassocks on my
18th birthday, which is still my official appointment. For the last year
I have been working with the troop at the 43rd Oxford since my uni terms
are so long this year that I'm not spending any time at home.
Outside Scouting I'm a 4th year Chemist at Oxford. My other major hobby
is bell ringing though I'm also a keen, though far too inactive, walker.
--
Graham Drabble
QM / ACSL 1st Hassocks. ASL 43rd Oxford
http://www.drabble.me.uk/
Real name Martin Whelan, less politely known in some parts.
Been in Scouting since 1989, and currently 24. Started in Saxilby just
outside Lincoln, and was involved there until 1999 when the VSU closed,
but have remained in contact. In 1999 moved Birchwood (inner city group
in Lincoln) for a year before going to uni.
Spent three years studying Politics with Geography at Loughborough
University, graduating in 2003. During that time was acitvely involved
with Scogui the SSAGO Club at the university, as well as with a local
Scout Group. Through Scogui got involved nationally with SSAGO and
spent years on the national committee (2001-03).
In 2003 moved back to Loughborough for a year and completed my QSA
through the local Scout Network. 2004 moved to Carlisle to study for a
PGCE and was supposed to help groups out in Reiver District when they
needed an extra pair of hands but no-one ever asked! Left Carlisle in
January 2005 after walking off the course.
Spent most of last year in March, and I helped with a Cub Pack there
before moving to Peterborough in the autumn and have been helping with
a group in Medehamstead since then. In the process of buying a house in
one of the villages south of Peterborough so moving on in the summer.
Also involved with SAGGA (Scout and Guide Graduate ASsociation), the
Queens Scout Working Party. Professionally I work for the Environment
Agency.
Consulting Engineer (was Director of a firm of, but been freelance for 3
years or so). Spent most of my working life overseas, mainly in developing
countries, and still get to interesting places sometimes.
Got involved in Scouts when my son joined Cubs, in Kent, nearly 25 years
ago. Went back to Africa, started a Cub Pack at the International School in
Accra, then joined a Scout Troop in a slum, and ended up holding 4 warrants
at the same time including Assistant Regional Commissioner in Greater Accra
Region. Director of Activities for the 3rd All Africa Jamboree in 1994.
After leaving Ghana went to Albania, and assisted with a Troop in Tirana.
Came back to UK, and settled in Exeter, about 10 years ago, phoned the DC
and said "Anything I can do?" and I've been CSL in Pinhoe ever since. Was a
TA but couldn't make the time to do it justice, so dropped that.
Other interests: Since settling in the UK I've taken up archery, and I coach
(mainly Juniors) at Exmouth Archers and a local sports centre.
--
John Russell
CSL 1st Pinhoe Exeter Devon
http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you care.
I've been around Guiding most of my life. Mum was an 'owl' at Brownies.
Brownie, Guide and Ranger at 28th Sunderland, Young leader and Ranger
in Northallerton. When I went to college in Hereford my landlady was
the local District Commissioner and one of my tutors DC in the next
district. Leader at various time in all sections in Hereford, Cardiff,
Abertridwr. Came to Bristol with a young family and surprise surprise
it wasn't long before there was a leader leaving the Cub Pack my son
had just joined and a few years later the Rainbow unit my daughter had
just joined. I've been CSL now for 11 years and my son has just
completed his training as my ACSL. I was staying at Rainbows for a year
until my daughter left - she is now my Young Leader and I'm still
there.
Other than that, I manage a preschool, do a bit of dancing, walk if
there's any time available - and spend far too much time online.
Alwyn (Al)
Lurker more than a poster gained loads of decent ideas from here though
Was a Cub and Scout left to join the Army once I left the Army I was
collared by my old Akela (Now GSL) to become a helper in the Cub pack and
was then promptly duped into restarting the Scout troop. 2 Years after that
took over cubs when the Akela left and then Sarted doing Explorers and
lately young leaders. Married to one of the troops assistant Scout leaders
(louise) and about to have our first child in the next 2 weeks or so. But
not this weekend please as I have cub camp.
Mark
I'm Richard (Age 24). Cub and Scout(for a few years left when i was 14)
down in Maidstone where my Dad was involved in the troop for a short time.
Went to university at York, got bored and got in touch with the DC to
see what i could do started as helper in a not so local cub pack, six
months later someone asked if i would take a warrant and I (foolishly?)
said Yes. Two great years doing that then got asked to take over running
the Scout Troop.
Luckily I got accepted for a PhD at York so became SL and been there
ever since (Using this group for ideas and help over the last few
years). Got more involved with District Exec and website and now act as
ADC(S) in addition to running the Troop, also for last two years was
responsible for running a second troop near to York. Last meeting of
that troop was last week I finally decided I needed to merge the two
(Those who have been around some time will know the fun and games I have
had running the two troops).
At least now (ask me again after Friday which is the first meeting of
the merged troop) we have a good group of 4 leaders and 4 young leaders
and maybe a troop of hopefully 25 so things can only get better and with
only a few more months before funding runs out I need to start writing
up my Thesis for submission.
Other hobbies swimming, cycling and reading. As to the future I don't
have a clue!
------
Richard
Pete, 25, have been with the 3rd Whitstable since I started as the second
Beaver on their books back in the mid 80's. Went through Cubs (in the days
of the Gold Arrow!) and Scouts (achieving the Chief Scouts Award of old).
The Group didn't have a Venture Unit (and I didn't want to switch Groups) so
I took out a helper permit with the Troop at 16, followed by an ASL warrent
at 18.
End up in the position of SL by default in 2003. Wood badge awarded in
2004. In late 2004 we started an Explorer Unit with a group of older Scouts
which is where I took on the ESL role. Then in April last year our ADC(S)
stepped down and the DC twisted my arm (very!) hard so I agreed to become
the Scout section District "rep" - officially "DSL (Administraition)".
Current aims in Scouting: maintain the Troop at it current levels and give
every Scout the oppertunity to gain the CSGA. Increase the Unit membership
slightly and try to ensure they all leave with at least their CSPA/DofE
Bronze, if not their CSDA/DofE Silver. Attempt to pull the District Scout
section together a bit and get some activities going. Try and retain some
of the older Explorers in some form (leaders/helpers/Network, or whatever!).
Pete
--
Peter Maley
SL, 3rd Whitstable
ESL, Tombstones ESU
Here Sir..! Here Sir...!
Have been posting on here for the past 8 years. Have been arguing with Ewan
here for most of those years and enjoy our tete-a-tete battles immensely
(because he's a damned good, challenging poster). Will argue here with most
people on a wide variety of topics. Age-wise, slightly on the ol' git side
of most of those who post here. Live on an island off the north-west coast
of continental Europe. Do the usual scouting roles which are not too hard to
figure if you read my posts. Do the usual sort of things which again are not
too hard to figure if you read my posts. Firmly believe that if an
interpretation of the minutae of POR is needed then my posting 250 lines of
it is sufficient for my 2p worth. (But only if I can avoid my bandwidth pc -
JR.) And the name's at the bottom.
I mostly post very late evening or early morning (just after SBR on
average).
And if that's the case....what the 'eck I'm a doing here now! :-)
BFN.
GAGS
I was in the Cubs 40+ years ago then dropped. That Group started using our
Church Hall in 1980 - but really as tenants, not much contact. Then in
1995 the then Beaver leader put up a notice saying they needed a helper
for six weeks (exam cover) and one of my church friends looked at it,
looked at me and said "you could do that, you're good with small
children". After six weeks I asked whether I could stay on as a helper but
made it clear I didn't want to be uniformed. After six months I got a
uniform, after 12 a warrant, and after three years as ABSL took over when
our BSL moved away. All because of one chance comment from a friend ....
--
Tony Bryer BSL 8th Twickenham
Was a cub and a scout with the 5th Beckenham south in london. Never made it
to ventures as the cadets and sailing got in the way.
I then moved to southampton to go to university and in my 3rd year got
involved with the SSAGO club. I stayed involved for a few years, most
recently helping to run the southampton ssago rally in Novembver 04.Having
graduated form southampton, I stayed in the area, got involved with the 3rd
leaside scouts as ASL. Since then I have moved on in terms of scouting and
am now running an explorer unit of 7 young people, with one assistant to
help me.
Outside of scouting I am a member of SAGGA, Scout and Guide Graduate
Association.
YiS
Tom Massey
DESL Southampton City
Here's my bit:
I was a cub in Hastings from 1973 - 1975. I turned up one night with a
friend to be told by the Akela that there was a waiting list!
I was a scout for two weeks; I left when I saw that the scout leader
inflicted dicsipline by smacking scouts round the ears. In retrospect that
couldn't have been an issue for many people as there were over thirty scouts
in the group, but I'm usually in a minority :o)
I walked over the road and joined the Boys Brigade and stayed there for some
ten years, obtaining the Queens' Badge and eventually becoming a lieutenant
and a member of the associated church.
In 1984 I moved to Folkestone but stayed with the Methodist church.
In 1986 I moved to Ashford and drifted away from religion. Having married in
1987 we soon had children and it was through my son becoming a cub that I
started helping with my local group in 1996.
That's ten years now, but I still consider myself a newcomer to this game of
scouting.
In my time in scouting I've gained wood beads, been part of two
international events, and have been CRB officer and a training advisor.
I started posting here six years ago when (as always) I put peoples backs
up, on this occasion about gung-ho attitudes when it's too wet to camp.
Professionally I'm a chartered scientist and I run the haematology
laboratory in my local hospital. I have two degrees (in haematology and
mathematics) and am currently studying for a post graduate certificate in
distance based learning.
Until recently I kept snakes, and used to show them at all sorts of events.
I'm a mad keen Trekky (have you seen my Klingon tattoos?), and have appeared
on the Sci-Fi channel with my head painted blue, and I run a very active
local sci-fi group.
I love to fly kites, and am currently Webmaster of our local kite flying
club - we camp four times a year at kite festivals.
I enjoy a game of cards, and often am in a card school playing poker until
2am (though I have never played for money, only chips)
And I am a member of CAMRA, and I enjoy a pint or two.
My most recent hobby is the garden (I'm getting old) - "Operation Gnome" is
a plan I have to make a fortune by making home made gnomes. So far I have
made four stepping stones.
When I grow up I'm going to be one of the normal people!
If you're interested there's all sorts of pictures of my life at
http://www.mankybadger.com
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Always wanted to be in Guides, after my friend came to school in her
slippers after completing Lyke Wake Walk as a Guide. (31years ago!)
Married had daughter in Brownies and then son, looked for Beavers for
him but none, local GSL said we could have one if I helped and
persuaded another Mum to as well.
Got Beavers going, went with son into Cubs, got divorced, met SL!
Became ASCL and helper at scouts. Became ASL, moved in with SL!
10 years later! plus another daughter (now Beaver) SL became DESC.
Finally got married again!
I'm now SL and also DESA, and am on District Exec. committee!!
Have Ranger Master qualification, as we have our own air rifles.
Been to a few big camps, Peak 95, Charnwood 96, Sherwood 98, Charnwood
2001, Eurojam, going to Charnwood 2006.
Looking forward to 2007 - a fortnights camp at Gilwell and stay at
Brownsea Island
Jenny
Outside of scouts is mainly outdoors stuff: kayaking, canoeing, walking,
sailing, etc
Rich
"Stephen Rainsbury" <ste...@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote in message
news:wLNcg.74582$wl.2...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>A few years back we had a roll call so that everybody could say a few words
>( I said FEW words) just to let newcomers knew who as who and we got to
>know a bit about them.
>
> This is purely voluntary but can I suggest that we do that again as yet
> again I have lost the plot!!
>
> I'll go first...
>
> I have been in scouting since I was 8 but took a few years off while we
> bred 3 children
>
> As a Venture scout I completed my QSA but we didn't do DofE. I spent
> several years as a VSL in Bexleyheath, Bracknell and Cardiff but when I
> moved to Gillingham transferred to Scouts as it was more convenient for
> domestic arrangements (BIG mistake)
>
> I was ASL/SL in Gillingham for 10 years and now ADC(Scouts) and ESL of the
> Agathoid ESU which has combined with the Barbarians to give us a total
> membership of 28 YP and 6 leaders.
>
> My Youngest is a scout, just got her Gold CSA and is about to move to our
> Unit, my middle one is about to move from the Unit to Network and is
> thinking about starting a second Beaver Colony at our host HQ with his
> girlfriend and my eldest is just about to do his QSA/GOLD DofeE but can't
> stand kids and so is "just" a networker, although he has just started to
> train some of our Bronze expedition teams.
>
> Outside of scouting my hobbies are playing music (Bass Guitar and
> Keyboards) and Bushcraft without kids around.
>
>
> --
> Stephen Rainsbury
> ADC(Scouts) Gillingham Kent
> ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
> "Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens" - Jimi Hendrix
>
>
Was involved as a cub in the USA between 1979 and 1983 before we moved
back to the UK into Bedford, where I was a Scout, Venture Scout and
then a cub leader. Had a brief stint as an ASL and then SL in a
Nottingham Group when I was a student there, then back as a leader at
a group in a village called Bromham (next to Bedford) until 1995.
In 1995 restarted the Scout Troop at Aspley Guise, where I am still
the ring master. Its a little village just outside Milton Keynes.
Population of village around 1500. Members of Scout group number
almost 200. We're a pretty active Scout Group and get around a bit.
Our summer camp this year is somewhere very exciting.
In 2000 got involved in the programme review, helping with the Scout
Section review and programme.
Outside of Scouting I'm a middle school teacher (middle schools those
funny things for kids aged 9-13) teaching ICT, Science and PE when I
can be bothered, and into outdoor pursuits, particularly walking and
climbing (badly). No serious attachments at present, but not through
want of trying. :-)
--
Steve Spicer
http://www.aspleyguisescouts.org.uk
My best wishes for great scouting, and a special encouragement to younger
leaders to spend time listening to kids, praising them and enjoying being
with them. And kids will look-up to you and be greatful for having met you.
( But they won't say it for years)
See us in full colour video action!
http://bermondseyscout.co.uk/
I have been Scouting since I was 8 (and that was 60 years of Cub Scouts)
with 2nd Hellesdon in Norfolk, stayed as a Scout, Venture, Cub
Instructor, and ACSL...
Moved north to Durham and spent nine years there as ACSL and CSL, as
well as Pack helper in another Pack, Colony helper and Scout helper x 2,
while desperately trying to avoid leaving university!
Moved further north to Edinburgh as a CSL in Blackford District
In '99 moved south to Cambridge and am currently ACSL and Scout helper
with my current group...
Outside Scouting I do various things - but my main perversion at the
moment is trying to drown myself around in kayaks in unusual ways!
In my spare time away from Scouting I run a manage a website that
handles large scale genomic data!
With an IT background I'm also for my sins County Webmaster for
Cambridgeshire (although that's only to fix things when its borken)
as various people in the County manage the site.
Also have a hand in a number of other Scouting sites that you may have
visited!!!
> Here Sir..! Here Sir...!
>
> Have been posting on here for the past 8 years. Have been arguing with
Ewan
> here for most of those years and enjoy our tete-a-tete battles immensely
> (because he's a damned good, challenging poster). Will argue here with
most
> people on a wide variety of topics. Age-wise, slightly on the ol' git side
> of most of those who post here. Live on an island off the north-west coast
> of continental Europe. Do the usual scouting roles which are not too hard
to
> figure if you read my posts. Do the usual sort of things which again are
not
> too hard to figure if you read my posts. Firmly believe that if an
> interpretation of the minutae of POR is needed then my posting 250 lines
of
> it is sufficient for my 2p worth. (But only if I can avoid my bandwidth
pc -
> JR.) And the name's at the bottom.
>
> I mostly post very late evening or early morning (just after SBR on
> average).
>
> And if that's the case....what the 'eck I'm a doing here now! :-)
>
> BFN.
>
> GAGS
>
Now that it's a more sensible posting time...
I'll finish by saying I've met a few of the people who post to ukrs.
GAGS
I've been in scouting since being a beaver at 6 and went all the way
through cubs, scouts, ventures, explorers (PRI changed it while I was
an under-18 venture). Theoretically I'm now in Network too ;)
In Glamorgan West (south Wales) I'm the Area (County) ESL (Young
Leaders) but I do this from a distance as I'm at uni in Reading. This
sounds a bit odd but I can support the YLs and leaders on email and
phone and then run the training during their (and my) holidays.
In Reading I'm an ACSL and also ESL(YL) for three districts here.
Aside from those, I've been quite involved with scouting at a Welsh
level including chairing the Scout Forum for Wales and currently on a
few project groups. I'm also coordinating the All-Wales Scout Camp 2006
which is coming up this June
(http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/wales/new/scouts/awsc.htm if you're
interested...)
Last September I was part of a group of leaders from the UK who went to
Egypt on a study visit to look at scouting in the Arab region. As a
result of this I'm also involved in the establishment of the UK-Arab
Scout Fellowship which will be fully launched later this year.
Not sure if there's anything else for me to say that's worthwhile so
I'll leave it at that!
Pete
about me, my oldest joined scouts in 2000 after being bored at Boys brigade
(just didn't suit him, they were a great unit). I'd never had any scouting
involvment before, as had been a brownie/guide in far distant past.
Volunteered to help at scouts, found out hated working with stroppy teens so
swapped to work with cubs.
Loved it and and ended up marrying one of the assistant leaders and having
two babies, went camping when pregnant and they've taken to it like ducks to
water ever since. We created the Terror scout section for our group, as had
so many under 6 yr olds (leader children) camping with us at one time, that
they formed their own little group.
Didn't get on with Akela at time, and when he left I jumped at chance to
take over, as was a dying pack. Ended up having to turn children away as
list too full and at maximum we could manage. So begged, hounded and bullied
GSL to create second pack and ended up with dragons and griffins.
I love it, but have had a few difficulties on way. Guess am just too
stubborn to give in though. Would wear more hats than I do now but refuse
to give up working with my cubs.
Currently wear:
Akela x 2 packs
A.S.L
camp cook (don't know why I'm bloody awful!)
group admin assistant
general pain in arse (POR fanatic)
and soon going to take over group uniform/badge ordering. I am a gimp
(disabled) so pretty much sitting on my bum is the best I can do these days,
so doing admin, etc is perfect for me.
Refuse to earn my wood beads as don't agree with the work they tell me to
do. Would have less if attended the courses. Instead have to write essays.
would end up with a thesis if did all of it! Not worried, after all if they
sack me I get a nice break.
Talk as much as I type, and could say so much more. Love being on here, as
I have gotten so many ideas. Still classed as a youngster as only been
scouting 6 yrs. One day will manage f2f, as would love to actually put face
to face. Possibly in 3 yrs, if I'm lucky.
--
Amanda Lawrence (Akela)
Dragons & Griffins
2nd/4th Barry Cub Scouts
OK, here goes....
I'm Neil Williams, age 26, currently living in Milton Keynes but really
from the North West ;)
Scouting-wise, I'm County Scout Network Commissioner for Bucks, but
also ASL at the Saints Group, Bletchley, MK, and am known to pop in at
Explorer meetings/events as well if I'm feeling bored. Work-wise I do
IT stuff for a large American company with a blue logo (not the obvious
one!)
Scouting history, then... I started as a Beaver Scout at 6, before they
were part of the Scout Association (I went to a presentation for the
World Badge when they became a full part). Our family moved from
Aintree to Aughton (Ormskirk), and with that I became a Cub Scout at
the 9th Ormskirk (being the first Beaver most of them had seen...)
>From there I moved up to Scouts (and came close to leaving as I
initially didn't enjoy it - but fortunately didn't...) then Ventures,
gaining my QSA at about 19 (but not having it presented properly until
22...). Somewhere in the middle of that I went to university at
Manchester, and joined Manchester SSAGO as well, being a member of that
throughout my time at uni - and great fun it was too.
I spent a year in Germany in 99-2000, and during that time was a
"leader" at the Bruderschaft Christlicher Pfadfinder in Glinde near
Hamburg, a small but very friendly independent Group. (If any of you
have seen me knocking about in a blue Scout shirt that's where that's
from, and I still wear it with a great degree of pride given how
welcoming they were to me).
In 2001 I moved to MK to start my first "proper" job. After about 6
months I got back involved in Scouting proper, as ASL at the Saints,
then SL, then when the (already very small) Troop wasn't working out,
ACSL for a bit, then when the Group merged with another and we got the
Troop back, back to ASL. (Phew!) At the same time, I was disappointed
by the lack of Network in the area, and helped to set up Milton Keynes
Network. A couple of years later, the CSNC resigned due to work
pressure, and I (in my madness...) applied to be the replacement, and
"got the job", and that's where I am now!
During the above, I've also been involved in ScoutNet UK (though I've
not done anything on that recently) and the West Lancashire Scouts IT
Group, and also posting here in various forms, sometimes more often
than others, since 1995 or so (and the original ScoutNet UK BBS!). I'm
also a member of SAGGA, but I haven't really attended anything...one
day!
I think that's the lot...
Neil
Stephen Rainsbury wrote:
> A few years back we had a roll call so that everybody could say a few
> words ( I said FEW words) just to let newcomers knew who as who and we
> got to know a bit about them.
>
Stuart Charters, aged 26, living in County Durham, just finished my PhD
and working at Durham University, long time URS lurker and infrequent
poster.
Currently ASL with 5th Durham Scout, and my wife is AESL with the
partnered ESU. Member of District Fellowship and previous member of
Durham Network.
The history bit.....
Joined Cubs, 1st Bromyard (in Herefordshire), at 8, having not been
allowed to join Beavers as my 8th Birthday was in a couple of weeks when
they started up!
Moved upto Scouts with 1st Bromyard forming part of a new troop and
being invested on the Malvern Hills.
Family moved to Kent and I joined the 2nd Tonbridge as a Scout, doing
the Chief Scouts Award and Challenge. Took part in the Kent
International Jamborree as a Scout in 1994 and as a Venture in 1998
Moved onto Ventures then went back to the Troop as a helper as well,
before moving to Durham in 1998 for Uni. Joined Durham University Scout
and Guide Group (DUSAGG) and helped out at a troop that closed a year or
so later.
Then transferred to helping at 5th Durham, took out a warrant and was
one of the last people to finish my wood badge under the pre-modular
scheme. Currently
Joined the County Network and became Secretary to the committee and
finished off my QSA.
Recently agreed to help out with the revamp of the county website
(http://www.durhamscouts.org.uk/) and occassionally help out as Service
Crew at Moor House Adventure Centre (County Camp Site)
Stuart
Accidentally walked into a Scout HQ in June 1979 that I (though I) was
supposed to be using for another purpose.
STayed for the day while activities were going on and was invited back
the following monday.
At time, was running a shoe repair shop local to hall and had left
school to all intents and purposes at 11.
Today - thanks entirely due to Scouting I have a masters level education
via Oxford and LSE.
Became ASL at that group. Left there in 1981 to take over my own troop
up the road.
Turned it from 3 Scouts to 36 Scouts in a couple of years, mainly by
running up to 10 weekend camps a year with various themes.
In 1985, district forced me to amalgamate with another troop, thus
undoing 4 years of work.
Stuck with new troop for another 4 years, till a snotty parent's remark
made me think 'sod it' and I asked the DC for a change of appointment.
My first group was in trouble so I became GSL and turned it round.
When I arrived, there were 3 leaders and hardly any money. Two years
later, 13 leaders, plenty of money and a very active GE. Then, a row
with the DC over the silliest thing and a promotion at work saw me walk
away in Feb 1992.
Spent next two years as 'consultant Scouter' working in various troops
run by pals for short periods helping them to do particular projects
they never had time or experience of.
STayed with one troop, becomming the only non-Jewish leader in a Jewish
group. Back in my old district, our oldest troop was in trouble due to
civil war amongst leaders. Took them over in 1995.
Went to Uni in 1997, travelling back from Oxford to Chiswick every
Friday night to run Scouts.
Transferred to LSE, but found myself unable to devote time to Scouts and
academic workload. Integrated my troop into nearby one and became ASL.
In Jan 2003, LSE decided to put lectures on during Scout Meeting, so GSL
asked me if I could get to Beavers instead. Said I would for a few
months, but have been there ever since and love it.
Also, been on campsite service crew since 1984 and now live at site
where I volunteer.
Very thin sketch, but thats about it.
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I was a Brownie from age 8 at 5th Surbiton and at 4th Godalming, then a
Guide with 2nd Godalming (in Surrey West). No Rangers but was a Rainbow
Young Leader (1st Busbridge), then when my Guide Guider went to New
Zealand get married (just the wedding/honeymoon, she came back!) my
friend and I ran the unit whilst she was away... and from then on I was
Young Leader!!! I got my Leadership Qualification when I turned 18, but
don't use it currently.
I went to the World Jamboree in Thailand 02/03 - one of 9 LASER (London
and South East) Guides with about 100 Hampshire Scouts!! I was in the
Gibbons Contingent, and had a whale of the time.
Now I'm at uni at Durham, I helped out with 1st Meadowfield Guides a bit
in my first year but it didn't really work out. I went to EuroJam as IST
last year and was in charge of the "school sports day" activity on North
Sea Euroville, which was great! At EuroJam I met a load of people from
SSAGO and am now a (nominal) member of DUSAGG (Durham Uni Scout and
Guide Group). I'm not actually active in Guiding and Scouting at the
moment, but keep in touch with my home Guide unit and enjoy SSAGO
events. Plans for the future - get more involved with DUSAGG for my
final year next year, and go to WSJ 2007 as IST. I will start Guiding
again properly when I live all in one place at a time (instead of Surrey
half the year and Durham the other half), and would like to do DofE and
Queen's Guide. Would never rule out joining Scouting either!
I'm a strong believer in Guiding and Scouting working together, as I got
so much out of my World Scout Jamboree experience and am really enjoying
SSAGO. I also post on www.gojamboree.org.uk which is a 2007 forum (came
out of an old EuroJam one).
When I'm not on the newsgroup (I was revising yesterday for this
morning's exam, and have spent the whole afternoon catching up!!) I
study maths, play rugby, listen to and occasionally play music,
socialise, and get involved in my JCR (the student body in my College).
> A few years back we had a roll call so that everybody could say a few words
> ( I said FEW words) just to let newcomers knew who as who and we got to know
> a bit about them.
>
> This is purely voluntary but can I suggest that we do that again as yet
> again I have lost the plot!!
>
29 yr old living near Hatfield in Hertfordshire. Went through cubs and
scouts then left, to rejoin as ACSL at 18. Did that for a few years, got
'promoted' (or put hand up at the wrong time) to CSL then the SL left,
so took it over in 2000. 6 years on, still loving it although the number
of scouts has gone up from 13 to 107 - and 30 more due up from the two
cub packs in Sept that I have no idea how we're going to fit in - likely
I'm going to start a waiting list :-( Entire youth membership of our
group and leadership team currently all male so 1st Jan 2007 is going to
challenge the logistics just a bit, but I'm up for the challenge... I
think.....
When not scouting I teach ICT at a school for children with specific
learning difficulties in central London, and enjoy playing music
(piano/trumpet), sailing and cycling. Also help look after various
websites and am a committed Christian.
Stephen - last time you did this didn't you invite people to post photos
of themselves to the archive as well? :-)
YiS
James
--
James Bentall - SL 2nd Hatfield
Email - un1...@midhertsscouts.org.uk
http://www.brookmans.com/scouts
Do you Baloo? http://www.baloo.org.uk
Got my Medal of merit a month or so ago.
I have 2 kids both in the Troop and both very keen and capable, they had an
unfair advantage having been to camp from 6 weeks old. My elder son has
competed in the national camping competitions. Goes on the internation ski
trip with the district ski section and dives with the district diving
section. Younger son of following in his footsteps.
Like Stephen I follow the words of the fat baldy bloke which REALLY annoys
some fundies in my district.
Andy
Started as a Beaver in Blackpool at age 6 (makes me not that old) and
worked my way up the same Scout Group to become ASL at 18 and SL at 20.
Left to become ASL of another troop at 21 and AESL of one of our
district units. Also hooked by claws into Aspley Guise Scouts and
joined them in USA summer '04, Canada Feb '05 and heading to Hawaii in
'06 as well as many UK camps round the country.
I left Blackpool in Sept 2005 to start an Outdoor Studies Degree at
(what used to be) Charlotte Mason College in Ambleside. No Scout Group
here but I keep myself busy term-time with (many!!) outdoor pursuits.
Currently still ASL in Blackpool although have inherited some District
duties due to my lack of giving up of trying to get the district
working together and taking them on international camps in the summers
I'm not away with AGST.
Andy Mathers
I started Cubs (Wolf Cubs as it was then) in 1954 then Scouts until I
left age 15, found girls, got married, 3 children later started picking
youngest son up from Scouts started going earlier and earlier to pick
him up cos it was fun! before I new it I was in uniform, given the name
Bosun (which has stuck to this day) and that was 20 years ago now.
Since then I have been ASL twice, in different groups because of moving,
GSL, ADC (Ventures), DSL, DESL at this point I my health suffered. I am
medically retired. I have now got extra "bits" in my heart and have
been given so far a 2 year bonus on life. I now have to take things easy
and have had regrettably to leave my Group.
I am currently DSL, NAA, and TA, at the moment to 3 new leaders . My
specialities are Pioneering (for my sins I wrote the current Aerial
Runway Code), Survival/ backwoods Camps, District Night Hikes and County
Eighthmaster (I assist the Quartermaster).
my hobbies when I have time are green wood working, sailing, and winding
the wife up, who is a diamond to me.
YiS
John Kelway
--
Every morning in Africa, a Gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes
up. It knows it must outrun the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to
death. It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle... when the
sun comes up, you'd better be running.
Yes I think we did, and the offer still stands!
If you are happy to share a picture of your fizog with us then pop it along
to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UKRSArchive/ and give us all a good laugh
:-)
According to Scoutbase there is a Group in Ambleside - although there is
only a Cub Leader listed there could be Scouts - unless of course you know
differently.
But with you saying no scout Group!
> Currently still ASL in Blackpool although have inherited some District
> duties due to my lack of giving up of trying to get the district
> working together and taking them on international camps in the summers
> I'm not away with AGST.
>
> Andy Mathers
>
Whilst I am on here I will add mine.
I joined Cubs in 1968 where I had lots of fun and gained my Silver Arrow
(never made Gold). I left the Group when I was ten and a half due to the
fact that we had a great GSL who used to come down and bring Scouts with him
who told us all about the wonderful things they did. They really emphasised
the water activities being a Sea Scout Group. Unfortunately, I could not
swim and all this put me off.
At age nearly 12 a new Troop was starting in my village so I joined it where
we had lots of great times. I was one of the first PLs and one of the 1st 6
to gain Chief Scout Award.
I joined the District VSU then our new Group one where because of work
commitments (started work at 16) I only managed Venture Scout Award.
I became an Scout Instructor then took a Warrant out in 1980 as ASL, gained
the Wood Badge fairly quickly.
Got married in 1984 and moved away from the village where I found it hard to
commute to Scouts but did so for 12 months.
At the same time (1984) was appointed our County's youngest ADC Scout
Fellowship (most were nearing retirement at that time) which I did for about
6 years then became ADC Leader Training for about 8 years (which changed
names a few times whilst I was in the role). At the same time I did
temporary stints as acting Badge Secretary and District Secretary for 4
years!
I was then appointed Deputy DC a position I held until our District merged
about 2 years ago. I did another shorter stint of 2 years as Secretary and
Badge Sec. I had become quite disillusioned by some of the things HQ were
asking of us, the County were doing things I could not support willingly and
the District had recently had 2 DCs who I felt I could no longer work with
so at the merger I took the opportunity to slip into the background - and
quite honestly I don't think anyone noticed.
I took up a position as ASL again in a Group where I had been made most
welcome in my time as a member of the District Team and am there to this
day.
DaveB
West Yorks
> According to Scoutbase there is a Group in Ambleside - although there is
> only a Cub Leader listed there could be Scouts - unless of course you know
> differently.
My sister was ACSL there for a bit when she was at St. Martin's (doing
teacher training), but the Group was to all intents and purposes dead,
or perhaps more accurately dormant, and her feedback was that the
District team was totally disinterested and stagnant, which is a shame
as this really is ideal Scouting country. The HQ is/was located down
the back of where that privately-run car park on the road in from
Windermere is, just before the park (before the road splits into the
one-way system).
Neil
I have not been posting hear long or very often but here goes anyway.
No Beavers in my day so ....
Cub - 1st Tavistock, West Devon - Gold Arrow
Scout - 1st Tavistock, West Devon - Chief Scouts Award
Venture Scout - 1st Tavistock (The Tinners), West Devon - Queen Scout
Award
ASL - 1st Tavistock, West Devon - Wood Badge (Scout)
AVSL - 1st Tavistock, West Devon
DSL - West Devon
Equipment/Technical Services Controller - Gilwell Park
GSL - 6th Chingford - Wood Badge (GSL.Comm)
6 year break - young kids etc
Chairman & QM - 18th Edmonton
Married to CSL
2 children, 1 Scout, 1 Cub
Currently working for the City of London Corporation as client officer
for public car parks.
That will do I think
Paul
I joined Cubs around '69 at St James, Sutton Coldfield and had a
thoroughly great time but cant honestly remember much about badges and
arrow:-) Moved into scouts and again have lasting memories of Tryfan
in the snow and summer camp in the Lakes (rained so much it might as
well have been IN the lake it could not be wetter.
On going to secondary school Scouts was 2 miles in the opposite
direction to school plus they were REALLY into DoE in a big way,
school won as 2 weeks in the Med beats a week in wet Cumbria any day
for a 12 year old. I had my Gold before Uni.
Other interests intervened, including getting married (to a Queens
Guide as it turned out) then my son joined Beavers which he loved.
Made the mistake of going over to Broham for his first camp and
helping to put up the tents. After complaining bitterly to the GSL
about how the patrol tents were in a state I did not actually get to
go home that weekend other than to pick up some clothes. The next week
I was given an AA form to complete :-)
Since then I have been ACSL, CSL and Scouter in Charge whilst our
group amalgamated then DCSL for a while as I felt no one should have
to struggle on their own for months and although district had tried to
help the team was too small to always be available to help out.
Wednesday the DC came round and persuaded my wife to join the District
Exec and my ADC Cubs warrant appeared on the database.
Tomorrow my son (12) takes his patrol to camp for the first time on
his own NA passport after a great programme by his SL this year to get
them independent and working as patrols. They are so proud that they
are now trusted to have a go on their own. That is what I am in
Scouting for.
Outside Scouting (and sometimes overlapping) I am a long time school
governor and this year become GNAS Leader and being asked to do their
L1 coach course.
Peter
Met Marc and his Helly romper suit at Rheola pursuing an interest in
Stage Rallying before we knew we shared another interest.
Scoutbase does indeed list a Group in Ambleside but it doesn't exist.
It folded a few years back and the District is warning us (half a dozen
students who are Scouters) not too restart it again as there isn't the
support.
It really winds me up that they think like this, but I have my foot in
two Scout Groups already and a degree to study for, co-ordinating
restarting another Scout Group would maybe be a little too much right
now.
Andy Mathers
Moi?? From 1944 I was a Wolf Cub in the 15th Wembley, Middlesex ; then
joined 4th Harrow County School Group in September '48 on passing the
eleven plus. Huge Group - three Troops (four later) loads of
activities, had to wear scout uniform to school on Fridays. Straight
off to camp in Mr Brown's removal van - a place called Gilwell Park -
rehearsal for Boy Scout, a pageant play by someone called Ralph Reader.
Turned out that RR had strong connections with our Group, so Gang Shows
and like things were on the agenda for several years. In due course
became Senior Scout, Rover Squire, Queen's Scout and then Rover Scout.
Then became Assistant Scout Master with my Troop.
National Service with the RAF in Germany, wonderful time, Scouting,
Rugby and I'm not sure I can remember what else. Had a Rover Crew on
station and helped run Cubs (older boys went to boarding school). Didn't
draw short straw for Sutton Coldfield Jamboree .... grrr!
On demob came back to working as ASM with my old Troop; got cornered by
some Harringay Sea Rangers at a Rover Ranger Conference and ended up
marrying one of their Lieutenants - Heather. We then popped off to
North Africa for a few years and I worked as ASM with British Forces
Groups in Tripoli and Benghazi - wonderful the facilities the Army made
available to us.
Came back to run Senior Scouts in my old Troop, then found myself
translated into A VSL.
With by now a potential Brownie and Cub Scout in the family, we took off
for Brussels for me to play at being a diplomat for a few years. Mostly
a holiday from Scouting, although I provided a base for European camp
recces for Leaders from my old Group.
On return took over as GSL of my old Group, then held various District
and County appointments down the years. Found myself writing for
Scouting Magazine for a few years (Scout Supplement , Badge Bazaar, Up
The Creek), did a spell on National Scout Board. Then in '95 got
involved with three other like-minded volunteers in a web site start-up
... thing called ScoutBase UK. The name came easy because I'd just had
District Patrol Camp with bases for this and bases for that ... we
thought it had a good ring to it :-)
Non-Scouting hours were spent enjoying myself playing guitar with a
bunch of other wrinkly folkies, and during the day as an IT Systems
Analyst in a large Govt Dept (somewhat rarified area of work ... evening
Cheltenham!). It was totally bizarre at one point to have one of my
former Scouts as the Minister of State at my Dept, his older brother had
been one of my PLs.
I managed to retire a bit early in '95, and in 1999 I left Middlesex and
moved house to Cambridgeshire. Fiddled around a bit as an ADC in Nene
District, Peterborough, and then when sell-by date reached (well that
was the case back in 2001) I became District Secretary.
Phew, so that's what happens when, as an eight year old, you just go
along to Cubs to see what it's like. All the doors that open, and all
the great folk you get to meet ... wow, there's nothing else quite like
Scouting is there? Now may I have a piece of that lemon and ginger cake
Amanda, please? I went to Cardington once or twice when somebody
wanted to start building airships there again. In those days one shed
had various barrage balloons drooping around in it, it was so tall it
almost had its own atmosphere. The other big shed had regular house
fires courtesy of some Home Office Dept ... or perhaps it was the Welsh
Office :-)
I looked at your kite site, MB. As a registered ole' git, is it okay if
I continue to fly my original fabric and wood two-line Dunsfold, and my
Peter Powell? Perhaps I'll see you at one of the Ferry Meadows kite
festivals - the site is just off my doorstep.
Chris A.
--
Chris Atkinson : christopher...@ntlworld.com
When all is said and done - there's usually more said than done.
Never been a scout (or beaver or cub). Started helping with fund
raising when son was in beavers. Then accepted an 'invitation' to take
over as QM. After a couple of years moved to Group Treasurer, which
makes more sense as I'm more comfortable with spreadsheets than canvas
and gas stoves.
Now doing 3rd lot of annual accounts, son left scouts some 3 years ago.
I resigned last year because of work pressure and the hassle of coping
with 7 sections' worth of figures, but that didn't work and I'm still here.
Where will you all be (geographically) in five years time?
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by day im a mechnical engineer
hobbies cycling dartmoor, hard trance music, pubs, clubs and scouting
ohh and im 22
Why does it really wind you up that the District doesn't consider it
feasible to restart a group when all the evidence is pointing towards it not
being viable? It sounds to me like this is another 'blame the district' for
any woes.
Yes there are some district teams who comes across as incompetent and some
more who are short-sighted, but on the whole the vast majority of district
teams work positively for scouting and just as hard as leaders in groups do.
There are only few things that a district team can do in the situation of an
ailing group lacking adult resource.
Firstly, they could 'parachute' someone in from the district team as a
stop-gap to keep things ticking over while more long-term resources are
found. This has happened to me on a few occasions when the DC has rung me
and asked if I would look after a troop for a few months while someone was
ill or until a new, more premanent SL was sourced. On my last 'mission' a
few years back I was 'parachuted' in by the DC to look after a Troop in an
ailing group for 3 months. I stayed for 12 months! I kept the Troop afloat,
kept the yp interested, got a few more to join, and thoroughly enjoyed my
scouting with them. However, the PR was imminent and I had 3/4 other
scouting commitments with which I was falling behind on. While the group
tried hard to find the necessary resources it sadly failed and when the CSL
announced he was retiring things were not looking good. I had done more than
I was asked to do and I had to get back to my other jobs.
Secondly, the district team can provide support to find the resource, but
they just can't pluck people out of thin air! Besides, the lead has to come
from the group/community. Support? Yes. Doing the job for the group? No.
When the district team looks at potential new leaders it has to weigh-up the
short-term needs with the longer term viability. An already committed leader
(with commitments inside and outside scouting) is rarely a longer-term
solution. Yes, one could argue that you could keep going for the short-term
and when that was up then find someone for the next short-term, and so on
and so on. However, having to do a firefighting job every 6 months or a year
gradually wears people down.
No disrespect to student scouters but they are not often the ideal people to
provide long-term solutions. They have studying commitments, career start
commitments, and often are not in the same place for more than a few months
or a year or two at best. Yes, they are best suited to providing support to
a more experienced sedentary leader, not to doing things all on their own.
The latter often causes 'out of the frying pan and into the fire'
situations. That's not good for the scouting of the yp.
You said: 'but I have my foot in two Scout Groups already and a degree to
study for, co-ordinating restarting another Scout Group would maybe be a
little too much right now'. Maybe a little too much? Do you really think
it's only 'maybe'. More like definitely!
Thirdly, when all avenues have been exhausted, it can close the group and
ensure that the resources are transferred to other groups and that 'homes'
are found for the remaining leaders (if any!) and the yp. You can't keep
flogging a dead horse using up the effort and time of vaulable and scarce
resources.
Why do you suggest the district's at fault for not letting you try to revive
a group, when you readily recognise it would be extremely difficult for you
to do so?
It's not your fault. It's not the district's fault. It's just life!
Think you've been wound up? Not in the slightest! As a district team member
it's comments like yours that really wind me up.
Stop knocking the district! Stop knocking people like me!
GAGS
My name is Steve Hinchliff. I was not involved with Scouts until my two
daughters joined when we lived in Dublin. The troop was about 10 miles
from where we lived and so I use to wait for them in the car and then
in the hall and then in the room and finally joined in myself. We then
moved to Northern Ireland to a village where the Scouts had just folded
the year before and so I decided to start them again for my kids. Was
proud of myself when I managed to get them through the expedition
challenge and bronze/silver DOE having not done anything like that
myself. (perhaps there should be a DOE award for older people who
organise it for their own kids !! Anyway I am now the SL for what must
be one of the most westerly troops in the UK and still have a seven
year old son to go through
6th Londonderry
I feel great when I actually hit the target, who cares which colour!
> Scoutbase does indeed list a Group in Ambleside but it doesn't exist.
> It folded a few years back and the District is warning us (half a dozen
> students who are Scouters) not too restart it again as there isn't the
> support.
This sounds about right; my impression is that the relevant District
team needs replacing.
Neil
> Stop knocking the district! Stop knocking people like me!
As there are with Section Leaders, there are good and bad District
teams. From what was said about them to me, I got the strong
impression that these weren't necessarily the former.
Neil
Well, I'm Duncan, I'm 36, and I'm an ASL with 15th Brighton - a small
group serving the Whitehawk and Manor Farm areas (which for those of
you who don't know are very deprived parts of Brighton, with a lot of
poverty).
I was a Cub at 1st Camelford (in Cornwall), and went up into Scouts
there.
At 11 I moved to 1st St Austell, and went on through Scouts and Venture
Scouts (Istavu VSU) there, when I got too old for Ventures I became an
ASL.
In the 90's I went travelling, and ended up in Brighton, where for over
10 years I didn't have anything to do with Scouting - not really a
deliberate decision, just didn't know anyone who was involved in
Brighton.
Last year, met a friend of my Mum's who has three boys all in Scouting,
and listening to him talking so proudly of all they have achieved
through Scouting reminded me of what I was missing - so got in touch
with the Brighton DC, and discovered a group just around the corner
from my flat!
Apart from Scouting, I'm in the process of gaining a Community Sports
Leader award, and looking for a job. I'm also involved in the local New
Deal for Communities regeneration scheme for the area where I live.
> Hi everybody,
>
> Well, I'm Duncan, I'm 36, and I'm an ASL with 15th Brighton - a small
> group ...........
Please NO Duncan!
I thought I had accidentally stumbled onto 'Scouters Anonymous'.....
Eddie
Sorry Duncan... is good to have you...
there's lemon sponge I think...
maybe some chocolate cake...
Good idea.
I'm Steve Smith, 28, living in Bristol, though currently working in
Edinburgh. I've been posting here for 9 years on and off, mainly
depending on how busy I am at the time.
I work for a Facilities Management company, and am currently a Deputy
Security and Portering Manager at a large acute hospital.
I am married (2nd anniversary tommorow), no kids.
Scouting wise, I started out at 219th Birmingham as a Beaver in 1984,
then moved to 274th in about 1992, where I finished Scouts and
Ventures, and got my QSA. I was also ASL and acting SL back at the
219th for about 18 months (I was actually too young to hold a warrant
when I started!)
I moved to Malvern in 1996, where I was ASL then SL at 1st Malvern Link
for about a year, before moving to Manchester for university, where I
was ASL of 306th Manchester for about 4 years, then SL for another 4.
Just moved to Bristol last September, and after a bit of a break, my
form AA is currently going through for a position as (A)ESL with the
Yesutad unit, in Cabot District.
Aside from working with sections, I have been variously :
- Assistant Unit Leader for the Greater Manchester East unit in
Thailand
- Youth Representative to the Council of the Association for GME
- Member (and one time Chair) of the Queen's Scout Working Party
- Member of Manchester SSAGO
- ADC (Development) for South Manchester
I hold a wood badge, and authorisations for green field camping,
hillwalking (T2) and single pitch supervision, used to have kayaking
but that lapsed a while ago.
Other semi-related hobbies include caving and small-bore rifle
shooting.
I think that's it!
Steve.
>Scouting wise, I started out at 219th Birmingham as a Beaver in 1984,
>then moved to 274th in about 1992, where I finished Scouts and
>Ventures, and got my QSA. I was also ASL and acting SL back at the
>219th for about 18 months (I was actually too young to hold a warrant
>when I started!)
>
>I moved to Malvern in 1996, where I was ASL then SL at 1st Malvern Link
>for about a year, before moving to Manchester for university, where I
>was ASL of 306th Manchester for about 4 years,
Coming from a District with around 10 groups, I find these "three
figure" Districts absolutely mind boggling. 306th Manchester! How is
such a huge district structured? Or does the DC have a time machine,
so they can get round the whole lot in a year and have a normal life?
Tim
> Coming from a District with around 10 groups, I find these "three
> figure" Districts absolutely mind boggling. 306th Manchester! How is
> such a huge district structured? Or does the DC have a time machine,
> so they can get round the whole lot in a year and have a normal life?
There aren't 306 groups in the District (about 12, I think). The
numbering in Manchester, as in most large cities AFAIAA, is historic.
When my old group was formed in 1936, it would have been the 306th in
the city (or county, district or however it was divided at the time)
to be formed since the beginning of time. The highest in Manchester
that I know of at the moment is 450th, which suggests that 146 groups
have been formed in Manchester between 1936 and now, which seems about
right.
I'm not sure how numbers are allocated now when new groups are formed.
Cheers,
Steve.
nice to meet you Steve. I'm also in Cabot - CSL at the 44th. My
daughter is in Brabazon unit.
Al
My Group is 10th Feltham. There are no longer any groups between 1st and
6th. 7th Feltham are the puddle Scouts. 8th and 9th Feltham never existed.
My Group chose to be "10th" because when they were formed (1954/55), the
"5th" were winning all the District competitions. The new leaders decided
their Group was going to be "twice as good as 5th"!
--
MatSav
I like it!
Twickenham now only has an 8th and 13th. There was a 16th in my memory. I
would love who the other were.
--
Tony Bryer BSL 8th Twickenham
Anybody know of any Groups that dont have a number at the beginning. Or
is my group the only one?
NJ
> My Group is 10th Feltham. There are no longer any groups between 1st and
> 6th. 7th Feltham are the puddle Scouts. 8th and 9th Feltham never existed.
> My Group chose to be "10th" because when they were formed (1954/55), the
> "5th" were winning all the District competitions. The new leaders decided
> their Group was going to be "twice as good as 5th"!
There are some other odd ones. Most of the groups in Milton Keynes
don't have numbers at all, just names, and the ones that do bear no
resemblence to the name of the District (e.g. 1st Bletchley and 1st
Middleton both being in Milton Keynes Enigma District).
Neil
Most in our District have no number - we are "Shelfords and Stapleford";
a quick check I there are 640 groups without ordinals active at the
moment...
The Abergavenny Scout Group... I believe 2nd Abergavenny merged with
something else years ago, and decided to drop the numbering.
Ta. I thought there would be a few but didnt realise it was that many.
NJ
"Our" explorer unit is the 21st, as it takes scouts from the 6th, 7th & 8th.
6+7+8 = 21
On that theory, we'd have to be the 111th...
Well... If I must.... :p
Where did it all begin? Erm, probably before I was born - grandparents
and parents majorly into scouting. My dad was (still is) Scout leader,
my mum a Cub Leader (till she started popping sprogs - but slowly coming
round to the idea of heloing my dads trop out now and again!).
As for myself I started as a beaver when I was 6 at 16th Dewsbury.
Didn't join the same group (or district for that matter!) as my dad as
it could have proved awkward, that and he worked shifts so couldn't
allways take me to the meetings and 16th is only on the end of the road.
Worked my may through Beavers, Cubs and then Scouts at the same group
before moving onto a district venture unit. While in ventures I startd
helping out at my old cub pack as it gave me something to do on a
Wednesday evening.gained my QSA in ventures.
As a newly warranted leader in 2003 i helped run a district trip to
Italy with Acorn Adventure, after which I ended up staying in Italy for
3 weeks working for Acorn!
Currently an ACSL with the same group I joined as a beaver all those
years ago. In fact I am working alongside my old Akela in the pack!
Other scouting commitmets are rather broad... I end up helping wherever
- scouts, beavers, explorers!
For my sins I've also been appointed (not officialy!) as district
Photographer (currently cameraless after some oik nicked it from work)
and district webmaster.
In real life I'm a Performance and Arts Technician in a school and my
favourite hobbies are... erm... don't seem to have time for hobbies
these days as all my weekends are taken up with scouting activities.
Good job i'm single and loving with my parents!
--
Chris Naylor
ACSL 16th Dewsbury Cubs (Heavy Woollen District)
Webmaster http://www.heavywoollendistrict.org.uk
http://www.ireland2006eb.org.uk/
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Been a Cub, Scout, Venture Scout, Scout Leader, Venture Scout leader.
I have been keen on 'adventurous activities' since my VS days, a lot of
it through the movement, Scouting is not just for the under18s.
During the last 25 years I have acquired National Governing Body
certifications and Scout Authorisations in 3 adventurous activities, if
you read my posts you will probably guess which ones they are.
These days I am part of a County activities team, and an Activities
Assessor.
> nice to meet you Steve. I'm also in Cabot - CSL at the 44th. My
> daughter is in Brabazon unit.
So were you or your daughter at Woodhouse Park at the weekend? We
quite possibly met. I was the one running the climbing and abseiling
for the cubs on Saturday morning, camping with the Explorers.
Steve.
I'm Graham Macaulay, a 16 year old explorer from Purley which is near
to Croydon. (Yes probably where you have heard of rapes or murders or
other evil things). I go to Wallington County Grammar School, and am
hoping to stay there next year to do A Levels in Maths, Geography,
Business Studies, and Computing. I also work for HSBC in the holidays,
and whenever I have some free time!
Scouting wise, I am a Young Leader for the scout section at a Purley
Scout Group. I'm also an explorer and attend explorer meetings, as well
as being a member of the Young Leaders unit and I also go to their
training meetings and fun days. I am also on our district website team,
and have a permanent position helping at district events it would seem.
I also help at district events, e.g. we have TSA MDU coming again, and
I'll be helping on that similiarly to last time. I also see a new role
forming, on one of the district teams. Online, I am a fairly regualr
poster on this board as well as being on the escouts team. Sometimes I
also post on ukrs, but am more of a lurker.
Ourt of scouting, I like to play rugby, go kayaking and just relaz.
Especially watching The Bill (my favourite TV programme), or listening
to some music. Oh and I'm on MSN a lot!
But you dont want to admit that in polite company, you should see the
overalls that Kay designed I am not allowed to wear mine when the wife
thinks someone might know me :-)
Neil,
As the districts have changed so many times (2 -> 4 -> 2 etc) it would
have been interesting to say the least. What I think is daft is the
1st's when no way there will ever be a 2nd! Either have them <number>
milton keynes or <locality> :-) OK there are the histoical ones in
Newport, Wolverton and Bletchley but most of them are not.
Peter
Yes - we made that mistake! When our name was decided at its formation 7
or so years ago, somehow we decided on 1st Weald Brook. Now we're in
Brentwood, and the name comes from the Brook that runs past the hut.
It's not a postal or local geographical area so it's highly unlikely
that there will ever be a 2nd Weald Brook. But, AFAIAA, no one ever
queried the "1st" part of the name tho' in retrospect it's clearly
unnecessary!
> Either have them <number>
>milton keynes or <locality> :-) OK there are the histoical ones in
>Newport, Wolverton and Bletchley but most of them are not.
>Peter
--
Kate
ABSL 1st Weald Brook, Essex.
> As the districts have changed so many times (2 -> 4 -> 2 etc) it would
> have been interesting to say the least. What I think is daft is the
> 1st's when no way there will ever be a 2nd! Either have them <number>
> milton keynes or <locality> :-) OK there are the histoical ones in
> Newport, Wolverton and Bletchley but most of them are not.
Middleton was of course Milton Keynes Village, so may well have had a
Group before the New Town. In fact, all the numbered ones I can think
of are in the "old" bits of town, though there are Groups in Bletchley
that don't have numbers.
Neil
Did we meet there? The romper suit is still under the stairs where it
has sat since i told the MSA (or IMC or whatever they are called this
week )that I wasn't prepared to defend their chiiping away at the golden
hour in a coroners court!
> >>
> > And were linked before we even met by both knowing Richard from
> >Calder Rescue.
> But you dont want to admit that in polite company,
I still remeber a briefing he gave at Silverstone when after he answered
the question about moving the head of a non-breathing casualty and
somweone blathered about "neck injury/sueing/crippled"
>> >> Met Marc and his Helly romper suit at Rheola pursuing an interest in
>> >> Stage Rallying before we knew we shared another interest.
>
>Did we meet there?
I got sent across as safety officer when SteveD ran the stage first 2
or 3 years and also for the Swansea Bay.
> The romper suit is still under the stairs where it
>has sat since i told the MSA (or IMC or whatever they are called this
>week )that I wasn't prepared to defend their chiiping away at the golden
>hour in a coroners court!
I fell out with them over the stage team getting blamed for an
approach road blockage when the regional shirts knew who the culprits
were but seemingly did nothing as they were noises from a Welsh Car
Club
In Crychan tomorrow and Brechfa saturday on 7Valley.
>> >>
>> > And were linked before we even met by both knowing Richard from
>> >Calder Rescue.
>> But you dont want to admit that in polite company,
>
>I still remeber a briefing he gave at Silverstone when after he answered
>the question about moving the head of a non-breathing casualty and
>somweone blathered about "neck injury/sueing/crippled"
>
Bet it had something to do with possible complications versus certain
death, only in a sort of straight to the point, blunt, Halifax way.
I was running finish control ar Resolven then. I also refused to work on
that finish ever again as i considered it to dangerous for the crew just
so that that irish prat that was in charge then could boast about having
the longest stage in the WRC.
>
> > The romper suit is still under the stairs where it
> >has sat since i told the MSA (or IMC or whatever they are called this
> >week )that I wasn't prepared to defend their chiiping away at the golden
> >hour in a coroners court!
> I fell out with them over the stage team getting blamed for an
> approach road blockage when the regional shirts knew who the culprits
> were but seemingly did nothing as they were noises from a Welsh Car
> Club
Of course you did, I remember now, I put my head on the block after you
removed yours.
>
> In Crychan tomorrow and Brechfa saturday on 7Valley.
>
> >> >>
> >> > And were linked before we even met by both knowing Richard from
> >> >Calder Rescue.
> >> But you dont want to admit that in polite company,
> >
> >I still remeber a briefing he gave at Silverstone when after he answered
> >the question about moving the head of a non-breathing casualty and
> >somweone blathered about "neck injury/sueing/crippled"
> >
> Bet it had something to do with possible complications versus certain
> death, only in a sort of straight to the point, blunt, Halifax way.
>
Yep! "You have 2 minutes then he's F***KING dead! Well What you gonna
do ? 1min 30 seconds! He's DIEING! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO???"
It electrified an afwul lot of people who had done civil service/local A
type FA courses where the maion thrust was " don't get the organisation
sued" He did more for FA training that day than dozens of namby pamby
course.
How is the old bugger?
I'm more of a lurker as well, but do occasional post.
Anyway I joined the Scouts when I was 11 and went to be one of the first in
our troop to get the Chief Scout Award, then on to Venture Scouts.
While in Scouts I did my service with the Cubs and never realy left, helping
out every week. At 18 I took my warrent for ACSL. After ten years of being a
cub leader I was asked to take over the Scouts after the old leader left
after a bust up with the rest of the group. I was expecting to take over a
group of 20+ scouts but only ended up with 4 after the old leader had
pursuaded them all to come to her new troop 4 miles away. (Those who
remember the story I am still waiting for access to the scout accounts). The
troop is up to 17 scouts now and still growing. Off to Norjam for Summer
Camp this year.
Have been service crew on 2 Welsh Jamboree's (93 and 97) which was great
fun. Have just pass my archery leaders course and going to take it up
properly.
Outside of scouting I enjoy reading, fishing and throttling my kids. Sorry
thats being with my family.
--
John Lawrence
2nd/4th Barry Scout Troop
Forgot to add I'm married to amanda (poison dwarf) and have 2 lovely kids
healing well. she's the boss
John
My name is Ian, and I'm a scoutaholic ; )
Started going to scout summer camps aged 6 (near Bala somewhere, my
only memory is what the field was like, and there was a big hole in a
tree we could hide in!) as my brothers were scouts, and dad was a scout
leader (mum was Mrs. Stores for the week).
Joined cubs, didn't like it much, left. Went to my dads scout troop,
loved it. My best talent was shooting. My knots weren't all they could
be, they're good knots, but you wouldn't want to put a name to them. I
fixed the patrols for my first summer camp, and had my two best mates
in the same patrol as me. Not sure my patrol leader liked it. 4 years
hence and as a SPL I have the 3 biggest PITA in my patrol, karmic
payback I guess.
Most err, interesting scout weekend camp was when the local council
double booked the greenfield site with a hells angels chapter. They had
an impressive campfire, noisy PA, but we kicked their bums in football
on Sunday morning, they seemed a bit "delicate".
Never got much in the way of badges.
Joined Ventures, my brother a VSL for a little bit of that. Some
fantastic weekends away. Brecons, Swanage, all unit camps. Very happy
times. Blizzard on the top of Cribyn? Ok, maybe we'll skip the swim in
the lake! Plus we still went to Scout summer camp every year.
Turned 21, became a "skills instructor", and carried on going to
Ventures. Couple of years later became a leader by default when the
other leaders left. Managed a few more weekends away, much harder work
now! Had some lovely Ventures though. Then they all disappeared to Uni
one September and I had no unit...whoops!
Took a few months off, then someone rang me up to join my unit, took
his number round to the unit I knew was still going round the corner
from my house, classically, ended up on their evening activity, bingo,
back as a leader, but part of an actual team instead of on me tod! Much
better!
Discovered national camps, Alton Towers, Pontins, very good fun, and
wow! So many Ventures! I never knew it was so popular! Plus the odd
weekend away as a Unit.
Our VSU decided to copy Alton Towers camp down south. Set a date for
September, then I heard about this PRI thing. Surrey decided to switch
to ESU's and Network in....September! We ran the camp anyway, and had
70 punters. Had 100% transfer from Ventures to Explorers/Network,
mainly by me being bolshie and pushing the powers that be "you said
flexible, ok, all these Ventures are now Network" "no, some of them are
16" "Yes, but they will be Network, remember? Flexible? They want to
stay with the friends they've made at Ventures". 4 years on, and the 16
year olds are still at Network, one is a caving instructor. They help
at county and district events, and the "grown ups" love 'em! I go down
and see the Network most weeks, they put up with me as a "responsible
adult", and they and I still run Theme Park Camp, but now we get 350
punters. I LOVE running that camp, I get such a buzz from the hordes of
happy faces.
Of course, Network "doesn't have leaders", so I needed a proper job,
and became an ESL, discovering that there had been an Explorer Unit at
least 6 months before the September Surrey Switch, back at the group I
had been a Venture at. I'm still there. Things are a bit dicey at the
moment, I have better links with the Network than the Scouts, so I'm
successfully losing ones out the top end, but not getting any in at the
bottom end. Always room for improvement. Had some great camps with the
ESU, a great bunch of kids. Recently went to Windsor with the districts
first Queens Scout for 10 years. You may have seen her if you watched
the Test the Nation the other week, she got the best audience score.
Well played Ele!
That's about it really. Wish I had more time for weekend camps, wish I
had more Explorers that didn't have weekend jobs, but don't want to
spend any less time with the family. Classic leader conundrum I guess.
Phew! That went on a bit!
Cheers,
Ian.
Farnham "K2" ESL
El'Capitan - Summit Scout Network (but 10 years too old)
Theme Park Camp organiser
http://www.summitnetwork.org.uk/tpc