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Ian Sandell

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Aug 20, 2004, 3:48:32 PM8/20/04
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Our VHF seems to be dying a slow death, so I may have to replace it
soon. From a quick look at specs of DCS radios, I cant see much
difference, except price. What are the features to look out for?

Ian

Graham Frankland

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Aug 20, 2004, 3:43:17 PM8/20/04
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"Ian Sandell" <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Our VHF seems to be dying a slow death, so I may have to replace it
> soon. From a quick look at specs of DCS radios, I cant see much
> difference, except price. What are the features to look out for?
>

I installed the XM DSC or, to be correct I installed 3, the first 2 being
faulty!

In operation (which is of course normal VHF use 99.9% of the time) it works
well and the range seems good. Operation is simple with a turn knob for ch.
change and buttons for high/low, ch16, scan & memory. When the distress
button is pressed once, a menu appears with several distress situations to
select from, it's then held for 4 secs and transmits the distress until
answered. Easy to store MMSI no's. The extension speaker doesn't switch off
the internal one, which is a problem with several others we looked at. It's
also waterproof.

Graham.


PyroJames

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Aug 23, 2004, 5:37:17 AM8/23/04
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Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Our VHF seems to be dying a slow death, so I may have to replace it
> soon. From a quick look at specs of DCS radios, I cant see much
> difference, except price. What are the features to look out for?

I just bought a Silva S10, for £200, and would return it if I could. Apart
from the fact is is less than 5 weeks old, it has already been back for
repairs. The main things I don't like about it is push button menu operation
for everything, volume and squelch included, but it rapid switches back to
channel up/down after setting the volume. As it also has direct push button
for channels, this really pisses me off. Volume is the one thing on a VHF I
constantly zoom up and down, from a low listening level, to a higher Tx/Rx
level.

Even at £550 I'd buy an Icom if I was doing it again.


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Davie Scott

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Aug 23, 2004, 4:46:56 PM8/23/04
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I purchased Simrad RD68. Would not get one again due to poor volume levls
and also I found display difficult to make out both in terms onf clarity and
size of charcters. Maybe just need new specs though ! LOL


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Ian Sandell

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Aug 24, 2004, 3:56:02 PM8/24/04
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Thank Graham.

Do you know how many no's it can store?

Ian

Ian Sandell

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Aug 24, 2004, 3:56:52 PM8/24/04
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Sounds like one to avoid - that's useful.

What is so good about the Icom?

Ian

Ian Sandell

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Aug 24, 2004, 3:58:30 PM8/24/04
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Thanks, I'll keep an eye open for that. Last thing obe needs on a
radio is difficult to read display.

Ian

Ian Petrie

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Aug 24, 2004, 6:47:57 PM8/24/04
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:02 GMT, Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote:

>> "Ian Sandell" <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:t3hci0h5qflcap641...@4ax.com...
>>> Our VHF seems to be dying a slow death, so I may have to replace it
>>> soon. From a quick look at specs of DCS radios, I cant see much
>>> difference, except price. What are the features to look out for?
>>>

I've just bought a Silva S15 with the Navtex and GPS repeater - £350 ish.
I bought it because I wanted the VHF in the cockpit ( Prout Catamaran )
and it is touted as waterproof. All the adverts mislead, suggesting that
it can do more as a GPS than it actually achieves, but I just wanted to
save the cost of a GPS repeater. The navtex function was the clincher - it
looked like a way to save a hundred quid or so against three seperate
items.

The radio is OK. Adequate volume over my echoing Volvo inboard. I can't
comment on the sensitivity yet as my masthead arial cable has been
stretched and may well be limiting reception. When I want to transmit I
rig the emergency arial.
I don't mind the volume and squelch selection. - You press a button then
use the channel up and down buttons to alter the setting. It drops back to
the channel change function very quickly.
Changing channels is a bit of a pain - press press press press press press
press etc. I was hoping that the numeric pad on the handset would change
channels like a TV remote - but no.
Dual watch isn't intuitive to set up. You can sometimes end up watching a
totally different channel.
The memory watch is good though - once your usual channels are tagged you
can leave it jumping around any number of them. I normally watch 16,67
plus whatever the local coastguard transmits the weather on plus a handful
of ship to ship channels just to be nosey.

The GPS function is less useful than I hoped - i wanted a cockpit
repeater. It reads NMEA for the GDMSS function of course but doesn't read
the distance to waypoint sentences that a normal cockpit repeater would
use to generate its display. You have to feed waypoints into the S15 to
get full use but it only holds about 20 very basic points - and I'm not
into duplicating the effort. Sailing is being reduced to far too much
button pushing already.

The Navtex function is worthwhile - and just makes it worth the cost. It
does everything that a standalone dual band navtex offers.
Accessing messages is done from the handset. This is a bit peculiar and
not very user friendly. You have to use none-intuitive combinations of
presses to work through the messages.

The one thing though that really annoys is the warning beep when a Navtex
message comes in. Every message produces a loud double beep, independent
of the volume setting and with no way that I can find to turn it off. I've
reduced the incoming messages to a minimum just to get rid of as many
beeps as possible so I miss out on all that knowledge about unreliable
lights in the Outer hebrides that were such a vital part of every day
convcversations in South Wales :)

I haven't used the DSC facilities yet - to be honest, I've mislaid my MMSI
number - but there is a reasonable directory size, enough for my needs any
way, and the numeric pad on the handset is only used for DSC calls so it
will end up like a telephone.

The set is waterproof - supposedly - though there is no seal on the VHF
antenna connector. The navtex/nmea connector has a plastic shroud which
seals well enough with a bit of help from the Vaseline pot. The power
leads similar.

The display is a bit oversensitive to sunlight. Definitely more so than my
instruments. the first day after I fitted it the display overheated and
completely blacked out. It came back once I shaded the set and now I have
to keep an eye that it doesn't happen again.

The mounting bracket - a wide U with knobs either side of the set - is OK
for mounting to a horizontal surface or under a deckhead but hasn't enough
reach to mount on a vertical bulkhead. The set is left facing much further
up than I really want.

I suspect that the S15 is one of those "first in the market" products.
Later multifunction products will address its failings and the S99 will
probably be user-friendly, sun proof and beep free - and will probably
incorporate all the rest of the instrumentation and a gin bottle level
indicator. At that point there will be an S15 shaped splash and the credit
card will get another squeezing.


Ian


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PyroJames

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Aug 25, 2004, 6:16:54 AM8/25/04
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Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote in message
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Only by reputation for ruggedness, and the fact that it has all the features
I like. Specifically dial up volume and squelch, and a key pad on the radio,
not on the mike. Key pads on mike and telephone handset really annoy me. :)
My last top of the line VHF has just died after 12 years service, somehow I
don't see the Silva giving me anything like that, the Icom, I do.

I think that I might go to the Southampton boat show with a shopping list.
This is helped by the gf having an interest in doing the same, to chase up
diving contacts, and is thinking about getting a RIB for diving. :)

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SKMonel

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Sep 2, 2004, 4:48:12 AM9/2/04
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:48:32 GMT, Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk>
wrote:

>Our VHF seems to be dying a slow death, so I may have to replace it

I have been through two DSC radios. The first a Midland/Neptune which
I loved the operation of, but was not compatible with a Garmin GPS, so
I sent it back. Now have the NASA DSC 35 [or some number like that].
It works well is waterproof [they say] is easy to change channels, but
I have to go to the radio to change the channels not do it from the
mike which I could with the Midland. For the money, I like the NASA
brand, never had to send anything back unlike some other brands like
Simrad.

SK

Ian Sandell

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Sep 4, 2004, 5:43:08 PM9/4/04
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That's one that I am interested in but I also have Garmin GPS. What
was the interfacing problem?

Ian

SKMonel

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Sep 6, 2004, 3:27:49 AM9/6/04
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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 21:43:08 GMT, Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk>
wrote:

The Midland would not accept the signal from a Garmin and some other
type of GPS. Compass Watersports did send me an Allan GPS as an
interim solution until they could do a full recall after the sailing
season and come up with a permanent fix.

I was concerned they were still trying to solve the problem and they
may never get it right. so I decided to send it back and get something
like the Nasa that I knew other members of my club had bought and were
happy with. The NASA DSC35 from Marine Superstore in Port Solent was
only £159.95 as an online order and free delivery.

all teh best,

SK

Ian Sandell

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Sep 6, 2004, 2:12:41 PM9/6/04
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:27:49 +0000 (UTC), SKMonel
<dontb...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Thanks

Ian

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