Laser 5000, Laser 4000, Boss, RS 800 ????
howard.sheppard
I am considering purchasing one of the above/similar. Can any one give me
any advice/assistance as to which one to choose.
I have sailed National 12's, Laser's and 470's for many years but would like
to take up the pace. The above all appear very similar. Any owners of the
above I would be delighted to here from.
regards
Howard
Jim Champ
The 5 tonner and the Boss are pretty much dying off. They were
designed before the majority of people (and designers!) in the UK saw
and understood what the Australasian designers (who were about 15
years ahead at the time) could do with a performance boat.
The 4000 and the RS800 are a later generation and better, tho the 4000
at least is still less than light. One's one string, one's two, which
should be an important differentiater for you.
If you and your crew are light the 29er should be on your shopping
list too, its an inherently superior design, as are, of course, modern
examples of the performance development classes the 14 and Cherub.
Jim C
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Helen Gerald
> The 5 tonner and the Boss are pretty much dying off. They were
> designed before the majority of people (and designers!) in the UK saw
> and understood what the Australasian designers (who were about 15
> years ahead at the time) could do with a performance boat.
>
> The 4000 and the RS800 are a later generation and better, tho the 4000
> at least is still less than light. One's one string, one's two, which
> should be an important differentiater for you.
>
> If you and your crew are light the 29er should be on your shopping
> list too, its an inherently superior design, as are, of course, modern
> examples of the performance development classes the 14 and Cherub.
>
Greece. This would
make most boats look good but the consensus is that the 4000 **is** a
good boat. It's beautifully balanced, it bears itself away in a big
gust with the kite up, there's lots of working space (no kicking
strap) and it is comfortable and easy to trapeze. It is heavier than
the 49er but it's tough; the boats I've used are
subject to lots of high wind action and hold together well. There's
lots of controls to tweak but everything is nicely placed. It's a bit
hard work to right but not too impossible. Sheet loads are also fairly
well mannered.
The 5000 nearly weighs that much and is a big tough brute of a boat
for those with attitude. It is an old design now.
happy wiring...
Helen
Jon McGuire
> If you and your crew are light the 29er should be on your shopping
> list too, its an inherently superior design, as are, of course, modern
> examples of the performance development classes the 14 and Cherub.
Although I'd agree with most of the article, I'd argue with the "inherently
superior design" part! 29ers are OK, but the Cherub, and Int 14 are in a
different class altogether and shouldn't be compared with a one-design.
If you want good racing both at club and open circuits, the L5000, L4000,
RS400 and RS800 should all be on your shopping list. Against popular
opionion, the 5000 class is now growing and is showing more depth than it
used to.
The RS400 is a great twin hike boat, the 4000 a good single wire option and
the RS800 fantastic (though I am totally biased) twin wire skiff (although
there is a single wire option with extended racks), and the 5000 is half the
price of an 8.
The 29er is good, but the open circuit is dominated by teenagers which is
great if you are a teenager. Personally, I prefer the build quality of an
RS boat. The 49er is a seriously fast extreme boat that breaks a lot. It
is not at all easy to sail (as can be demonstrated by many a gifted sailor
swimming).
Jon McGuire
RS800 824
Simon Gillow
you are racing other boats in your class.
Not having ever sailed any of the mentioned boats I cant really comment but
having recently bought an RS200 I have seen the RS800s at some events and
they look good. They have movable racks and can be sailed twin trapeze with
racks in or single trapeze with racks out. Although on the circuit you will
be hard pushed to find anyone NOT twin wiring.
Hope that helps,
Simon
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