Anyone Selling a 32 footer?
ManchesterSean
I don't know if you are supposed to put adverts on here looking for boats, but
I am after a sailing boat of approx 32' (6 berth).
I intend to sail her myself as well as use it for occassional charter in the
Highlands.
Is anyone looking to sail a well equipped but economical boat? My Budget is £20
-30K.
Thanks
Ian Sandell
will be hard pressed to get a 32 ft coded boat for that money.
Ian
On 02 Feb 2005 09:59:18 GMT, manches...@aol.com (ManchesterSean)
wrote:
peter
> On 02 Feb 2005 09:59:18 GMT, manches...@aol.com (ManchesterSean) wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I don't know if you are supposed to put adverts on here looking for boats, but
> >I am after a sailing boat of approx 32' (6 berth).
> >
> >I intend to sail her myself as well as use it for occassional charter in the
> >Highlands.
> >
> >Is anyone looking to sail a well equipped but economical boat? My Budget is £20
> >-30K.
> >
> >Thanks
>
> For charter work the boat will need to be "coded". I think that you
> will be hard pressed to get a 32 ft coded boat for that money.
>
> Ian
Agreed, but you might just do it. I looked at a Sigma 33 a little over a
year ago thet was coded, in stunning condition, for sale at 29,950.
Dan
> For charter work the boat will need to be "coded". I think that you
> will be hard pressed to get a 32 ft coded boat for that money.
You certainly won't get a 32 foot boat and then pay for the kit to make
it coded for that money.
*Maybe* you'd get an existing coded boat for that cash with the wind
behind you and the coded boat fairy on you side and with a motivated
seller.
However I wonder if the OP mean official charter work or renting it to
his mates for beer money (in cash).
If thats the case it's just finding a 32 footer for 25 odd k. (Which
still might be tricky.)
ManchesterSean
All above board!
Dan
> Of course it will be official!
>
> All above board!
Then it's gonna cost! E-Mail me if & when you do it. I charter in
Scotland twice a year and although I'm sorted for the spring I mihgt
want an Autumn trip.
Keelworm
Dan.
Which company are you chartering with in Scotland? I'm wanting to have a
week to ten days up there this year, only pre-requisite is that I get to
take the missus to kilkreggan for a day or two before/during/or after the
charter (she grew up there apparently). Other than that, I was fancying St.
Kilda but from what I gather the weather can often rule it out, and this
time it will be just me+wifey, so would be a bit short handed for that
trip.
Any suggestions (Dan or any of the West Coast lot) for must visits for
first-timer to the area, and when would be the most reliable (weatherwise)
time to go?
What would be the ideal 7-10 day cruise?
Cheers in advance!
Phil.
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Dan
> Which company are you chartering with in Scotland?
There's no substitute for having a good phone round. The first time I
got in touch with sail scotland and never looked back.
> I'm wanting to have a
> week to ten days up there this year, only pre-requisite is that I get
to
> take the missus to kilkreggan for a day or two before/during/or after
the
> charter (she grew up there apparently). Other than that, I was
fancying St.
> Kilda but from what I gather the weather can often rule it out, and
this
> time it will be just me+wifey, so would be a bit short handed for
that
> trip.
Couples sail miles and miles with no problems but athough I haven't
been to St Kilda but would say it's too far to bother. A long time at
sea for not much.
> Any suggestions (Dan or any of the West Coast lot) for must visits
for
> first-timer to the area, and when would be the most reliable
(weatherwise)
> time to go?
April May is best weather wise. As for what to see. THe first time it
will *all* blow your mind so just have a look through the pilot book on
the boat..
In the CLyde: Loch Ranza, Lamlash, Tarbert. MIllport will blow you're
mrs's mind for seals (which tottie *Love*). Other side of 'the MUll
of' you must try Tinkers hole for a bit of Pilotage fun. What I've seen
of the Outer Hebrides is stunning. Mull And Skye are stunning. Kyle Of
Lochalsh is a bit touristy but it's a rare chance for beers in a
sizableish town. FOr what it's worth I liked Craighouse on Jura when I
visited but other say it's crap so maybe the problem is with me.
Just go there! THe charter companies are crying out for biz.
Sandy Morton
Dan <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> In the CLyde: Loch Ranza, Lamlash, Tarbert. MIllport will blow
> you're mrs's mind for seals (which tottie *Love*).
Do you want me to write an ever so slightly biased tourist guide to
the Clyde?
--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net
Dan
> In article <1107446792.2...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Dan <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > In the CLyde: Loch Ranza, Lamlash, Tarbert. MIllport will blow
> > you're mrs's mind for seals (which tottie *Love*).
>
> Do you want me to write an ever so slightly biased tourist guide to
> the Clyde?
It would be a great idea! [1]
[1] Although I won't be visiting the CLyde for a while now. Seen 90 per
cet of it and after doing the 'other side' I wanna go back in the
Spring!
Keelworm
> In article <1107446792.2...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Dan <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> In the CLyde: Loch Ranza, Lamlash, Tarbert. MIllport will blow
>> you're mrs's mind for seals (which tottie *Love*).
>
> Do you want me to write an ever so slightly biased tourist guide to
> the Clyde?
>
I could go for that! make it sound more appealing than Turkey and print it
out and give it to the wife... if she takes the bait there's a bottle of
nectar in it for you!
<g>
PG
Keelworm
> Keelworm wrote:
Cheers Dan...
Good info, hope to be booking the next week or so now my work holidays are
confirmed.
PG
Sandy Morton
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >Any suggestions (Dan or any of the West Coast lot) for must visits
> >for first-timer to the area, and when would be the most reliable
> >(weatherwise) time to go?
> After another 50 years of global warming.
There will be a lot more islands by then - and a few will disappear
:-((
Keelworm
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:48:08 +0000 (UTC), Keelworm
> <tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>While Choking on an Orange Sandy Morton farted to uk.rec.sailing:
>>
>>> In article <1107446792.2...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Dan <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In the CLyde: Loch Ranza, Lamlash, Tarbert. MIllport will blow
>>>> you're mrs's mind for seals (which tottie *Love*).
>>>
>>> Do you want me to write an ever so slightly biased tourist guide to
>>> the Clyde?
>>>
>>
>>I could go for that! make it sound more appealing than Turkey and print
>>it out and give it to the wife... if she takes the bait there's a bottle
>>of nectar in it for you!
>
> I thought Dan and I had booked the wife?
Ahhh yes... about the wife... <fx: taps nose>
Dan
> Ahhh yes... about the wife... <fx: taps nose>
Awww bollocks. She hasn't given us the clap again as she?
Hope not or Martin's Sister will be well pissed off.
Sandy Morton
<tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
> > Do you want me to write an ever so slightly biased tourist guide
> > to the Clyde?
> >
> I could go for that! make it sound more appealing than Turkey and
> print it out and give it to the wife... if she takes the bait
> there's a bottle of nectar in it for you!
OK - if you make it and the weather is right we can have it in the
yard.
Depending upon your start point the following are not necessarily in
the correct order.
Troon - nice marina and nice town but not very touristy. If you
bring your golf clubs some of the best golf courses in the world are
within a few miles. It would appear that the Seacat will not be
operating this year so access should be easier.
Ardrossan - newish marina but the staff are friendly. Surrounding
area isn't too wonderful.
Largs - nice marina in a nice area. Golf course and Kelburn Country
Centre are within walking distance, town of Largs is walkable and has
some very nice eateries and more than a few good pubs. Haylie Hotel
(better to book) is within walking distance and serves the best
steaks (imvho) and the view from the dining room is superb.
Kip Marina - nice marina with good facilities but that's about it.
Rhu Marina - I haven't visited but is very near to Kilcreggan - watch
out for submarines!
Holy Loch marina looks good and there seems to be planty of mooring
in the Loch. Dunoon is within easy reach.
Loch Long and up to Carrick Castle is very attractive on the left and
awesome on the right - don't go too near the Navy Yard, they don't
like visitors. Drimsynie Leisure Centre at LochGoilhed is worth a
visit - if you make it tell Dougie that Sandy sent you.
Rothesay Bay and Marina are very well worth a visit as is Mount
Stuart House (for touristy things) and the West End Cafe (for
waistline things - magic fish suppers).
A sail up the Kyles of Bute and you might not want to go home -
Caladh Harbour is just about perfect.
Tighnabruich has visitor moorings and a few good eateries - the one
with the short and plump lady in charge is exceptional.
If you have time a sail up it Loch Fyne is beautiful. The Oyster Bar
at Cairndow serves wonderful sea food. Inverary Castle and Jail are
touristy but well worth a visit - Inverary itself is a very touristy
pass through and is always busy. Creggans Inn is another good eatery
and was owned by Fitzroy McLean - the original 007. Good veggie/herb
garden nursery at Furnace.
Lochgoilhead is the entrance to the Crinan Canal but that's about it.
Tarbert is a buzzing marina but is very visitor friendly - withdraw
the plastic.
I don't know the west side of Arran but I am told that Campbeltown is
best avoided until the sewage problem has been sorted:-(
Lochranza has its own distillery - very ultra modern but with a
visitor centre and golden eagles nest nearby.
Lamlash is a typical tourist village and moorings are OK unless the
swell is coming from the East.
Brodick is attractive, clean and unfortunately has a CalMac Ferry
terminal - moor well away from it. Brodick Castle and the
Countryside museum are good.
Glen Callum Bay (Callums Hole) at the bottom end of Bute is a very
quiet anchorage and sheltered from everything except due south - do
NOT anchor on the east side of the bay - you might find an anchor
which we lost (cut loose)!
Kilchattan Bay is just round the corner and has visitor moorings, a
reasonable hotel and a huge and quiet sandy beach.
Which only leaves the Bicycle Island and I am biased! However we
have the smallest Cathedral in Britain, the best Marine Research Lab
in Britain, free (maintained) moorings for visitors, almost as many
cycles as resident population, 16kms of flat road which is ideal for
cycling. As mentioned in another post for most of the year the bay
is the home of over 100 seals - they tend to go away in July and
August because of the boats. Some excellent pubs, a few good
eateries, another golf course, a bowling green, trout fishing and the
front is still very near to being a Victorian Village. Only drawback
is the swell from the south and that only at the East end of the bay.
We also have the best maintained wooden Pier which I know of and
which is regularly visited by the PS Waverely (sp).
Sorry for the long post but you did ask - any further questions feel
free - and I'll field criticism from those who think they know it
better than me:-)
And I did miss the scenery deliberately - it is too fantastic for
words.
Sandy Morton
<tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
> it to the wife..
It's also quicker and cheaper to get to - Ryanair into Prestwick or
anybody into Glasgow and you are only an hour away.
Dan
> Ardrossan - newish marina but the staff are friendly. Surrounding
> area isn't too wonderful.
Really scruffy area. To be honest don't bother. However we walked maybe
1/2 and hour away into a huge (but not picturesque) bay and had a great
night. So avoid. But if you go there you might have a good night out.
> Largs - nice marina in a nice area. Golf course and Kelburn Country
> Centre are within walking distance, town of Largs is walkable and has
> some very nice eateries and more than a few good pubs. Haylie Hotel
> (better to book) is within walking distance and serves the best
> steaks (imvho) and the view from the dining room is superb.
Agree. It has all sorts of Marina facilites too so if you are out for
11 days and need to do a wash and get some diesel then great!
> Holy Loch marina looks good and there seems to be planty of mooring
> in the Loch.
Quite pretty if you look *away* from the Marina which is a bit scruffy.
We had a great nihgt there withuot leaving the boat.
> Rothesay Bay and Marina are very well worth a visit as is Mount
> Stuart House (for touristy things) and the West End Cafe (for
> waistline things - magic fish suppers).
Agree! Rothesay is great!
> A sail up the Kyles of Bute and you might not want to go home -
> Caladh Harbour is just about perfect.
Agree!!! and of course you can do it in any weather!!!
> If you have time a sail up it Loch Fyne is beautiful.
Agree! Unmissable.
> Lochgoilhead is the entrance to the Crinan Canal but that's about it.
Still quite nice. We had a great nihgt out there and mooring by the
lock you feel you're in an old fashioned fishing port - which you are.
In a big wind the sea comes right over the harbour wall. You can use
the shower at the lock keepers cottage which comfortably fits two!
<grin>
> Tarbert is a buzzing marina but is very visitor friendly - withdraw
> the plastic.
Nice place. You can walk up to an old castle. THere's a great feel to
it and in spring it's quiet.
> I don't know the west side of Arran but I am told that Campbeltown is
> best avoided until the sewage problem has been sorted:-(
Ok, don't make a special effort to go to Campbeltown but if you do end
up there it isn't *that* bad. And the approach is very nice. But yeah.
It's a vistorian seaside town in decline and the people are odd!
> Lochranza has its own distillery - very ultra modern but with a
> visitor centre and golden eagles nest nearby.
Great place. We were there alone both times. Stunning. Sums the whole
region up.
> Lamlash is a typical tourist village and moorings are OK unless the
> swell is coming from the East.
I think you're playing it down a bit. It *rocks*. Word of warning. We
were there alone but by the number of empty moorings this place can get
quite busy. Nothing like the SOuth Coast of course.
> Which only leaves the Bicycle Island and I am biased!
A visit to Millport is essetial. Very exposed to the south for over
nihgt stays though.
> And I did miss the scenery deliberately - it is too fantastic for
> words.
Yup.
I'd add:
Somewhere up loch Fyne is a circular harbour on the west side of th
eloch. Higher than Crinnan canal. Worth a visit.
Also the prevailing wind means you should try to get south at the start
of your tirp and work north later.
Wildlife. You will see seals and Dolphins. Not a lot but probably every
day. Now that is special!!!!
Tony of Judicious
> Tarbert is a buzzing marina but is very visitor friendly - withdraw
> the plastic.
Really attractive place.
> I don't know the west side of Arran but I am told that Campbeltown is
> best avoided until the sewage problem has been sorted:-(
Avoid at all cost. Pontoon with water but otherwise ghastly depressed place
(sorry).
Popped into Port Ellen - pontoon (Islay) and Craighouse - maintained
moorings (Jura) last season and both nice places.
I'll post some other suggestions from Oban later
Tony of Judicious
>
> Any suggestions (Dan or any of the West Coast lot) for must visits for
> first-timer to the area, and when would be the most reliable (weatherwise)
> time to go?
>
> What would be the ideal 7-10 day cruise?
>
> Cheers in advance!
>
> Phil.
I've sailed in the area on and off for more than 30 years. Based J on the
NW coast for the last 3 years.
You might like to see my web site which has some cruising notes: -
http://www.yacht-judicious.co.uk/scotland.html
There is info on moorings at: http://www.bluemoment.com/scotmoorings.html
May/June sounds good as it should be reasonable weather and the midges won't
be out and about.
Have a copy of the CalMac ferry timetable onboard as it is useful to know
what the feryy movements are.
Can't comment on the Clyde area. If you are starting from around Oban I
have done Barra in a week's charter but that was in a 40ft boat and with 4
other fairly keen sailors. Probably a bit far with just your wife. Around
Mull would be interesting and reasonable in a week. Work the tides in
deciding wether to go clockwise or anticlockwise.
Where you stop will depend on whether you want a pontoon (few and far
between), pubs and restaurants in the evening, or remote anchorages.
Places that I have visited that I particulalrly like:
Puilladobrhain, nr Oban, - great anchorage, pub with good food is a walk
through the woods
Ardanimar, Luing - nice sheltered anchorage, handy for catching the tide
through the Cuan Sound
Loch Spelve, Mull - had good reports but never been there, anchorage, no
facilities
The Black Isles - remote anchorage but spent a memorable night there with
the sun going down behind Mull
Dallens Bay, N of Shuna Sound, Loch Linne - moorings, friendly little yard,
cute castle
Loch Sunart - Mooring at Salen and hotel. Wonderful scenery
Drumbuie, opposite Tobermory - good anchorage in the SE corner (otherwise
rather deep), Quiet and remote.
Tobermory - Pontoon for water, otherwise moorings. If you don't want the
bright lights go over to Drumbuie for the night
Tinkers Hole, Erraid, Mull - remote anchorage, a MUST
Gometra/Ulva - Gometra Hbr - good anchorage
Coll and Tiree - interesting to visit but nothing wonderful
If you have insurance for N of Ardnamurchan then:
Rum, Muck and Eigg are not particulalry interesting and have no facilites
There are some throughly entertaining inlets N of Ardnamurchan -Loch Moidart
(good anchorage below another even cuter castle) and Loch Ailort.
Arisaig - entarnce is not as difficult as the Pilot suggests. Pontoon for
water, moorings and hotel.
Mallaig - Tie up beside a FV for a couple of hours for shopping.
Loch Nevis, N of Mallaig - Inverie has a pub with moorings. The sea food is
a MUST. Go for the seafood platter, expensive but you will never have had
fresher, juicier langoustines.
Isle Ornsay on Skye - anchorage. hotel, but difficult to land at LW
Isle of Soay - North harbour. Bar across the entrance, dries 0.9m Oban.
Take care not to get neaped. Pool in the middle with min 3m. Well worth a
visit. Remains of Gavin Maxwell's shark processing factory
Loch Scavaig, Skye - for the adventurous, but terrific scenery.
Canna - well worth a visit but poor holding. Don't stay if the forecast is
dubious. Minute store only open when ferry due.
That should be enough to be going on with.
Keelworm
> I've sailed in the area on and off for more than 30 years. Based J on the
> NW coast for the last 3 years.
>
> You might like to see my web site which has some cruising notes: -
> http://www.yacht-judicious.co.uk/scotland.html
Cheers Tony, I've already had a poke around Yacht-J's website, it was
actually some of your comments on there that first made me suggest it to
Julia.
>
> There is info on moorings at: http://www.bluemoment.com/scotmoorings.html
>
Bookmarked
<snip excellent info>
Many many thanks for taking the time to post all that. Printed it out for
evenings discussions.
Cheers.
PG
Dan
> If you are starting from around Oban I
> have done Barra in a week's charter but that was in a 40ft boat and
with 4
> other fairly keen sailors. Probably a bit far with just your wife.
I'd have thought you could do Oban->Tobermoray in a day and Tobermoray
to Barra the following day easily. The most likely wind direction puts
you on a reach both ways [1]. In 7 days 4 days sailing leaves three
spare to wait for weather. In fact from memory I'd have thought
Oban->Barra in a day would be feasable for the keen early riser.
In fact you might be wiser to do that 'cos you might be waiting 5 days
for good weather to return.
[1] Today's dangerous assumption!
Alan Frame
[]
> Which only leaves the Bicycle Island and I am biased!
[]
>Some excellent pubs, a few good eateries,
But in April, when Celtic are playing in the European Cup semi, the chip
shop shuts early - luckily Bobby can microwave genuine mutton pies for
you as you watch the game whilst Jeannie pulls the pints ;-)
rgds, Alan
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Sandy Morton
<alan....@acm.org> wrote:
> But in April, when Celtic are playing in the European Cup semi, the
> chip shop shuts early - luckily Bobby can microwave genuine mutton
> pies for you as you watch the game whilst Jeannie pulls the pints
> ;-)
Bobby is threatening to sell up and retire when the No Smoking in
pubs comes in to law - and he's only 70!
Keelworm
> In article <1grgxpw.1ctfh8tqtwazfN%alan....@acm.org>, Alan Frame
> <alan....@acm.org> wrote:
>> But in April, when Celtic are playing in the European Cup semi, the
>> chip shop shuts early - luckily Bobby can microwave genuine mutton
>> pies for you as you watch the game whilst Jeannie pulls the pints
>> ;-)
>
> Bobby is threatening to sell up and retire when the No Smoking in
> pubs comes in to law - and he's only 70!
>
Thanks for all that info Sandy... I only got it when I checked through
google groups as my NS seams to be a little selective.
Looks like it's done the trick, and we're planning to go up there in
early-mid August, so if you're around I'll honour that offer of nectar in
the yard.
Even more of a bonus is that the missus has also agreed to 'Another' charter
in April from Vancouver[1].
This all means it looks like i'll get Two proper sailing holidays this year,
as opposed to the usual 'Anchored in a Med Bay' type hol as per usual.
PG
[1] I'm going there on the job for a few days and have ok'd it to add my
hol's on to the end of the trip, therefore flights paid!
Sandy Morton
<tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
> Even more of a bonus is that the missus has also agreed to
> 'Another' charter in April from Vancouver[1].
Do you want a guide to that one too?
Keelworm
> In article <cu7bis$ch6$1...@hercules.btinternet.com>, Keelworm
> <tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
>> Even more of a bonus is that the missus has also agreed to
>> 'Another' charter in April from Vancouver[1].
>
> Do you want a guide to that one too?
>
You been?
I have family who have an appartment on Vancouver Island, so staying there
for a week (after a working weekend), before chartering a 32 footer out of
vancouver for 7 nights. (23rd - 30th April).
Current 'Rough' itinerary from googling/past landbased visits goes something
like:
Snug Cove, Ile Bowen
Nanaimo, Ile Vancouver
Port Telegraph, Ile Kuper
Port Montague, Ile Galiano
Port Ganges, Ile Salt Spring
Port Degnen, Ile Gabriola
Further suggestions welcome.
PG.
Sandy Morton
<tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
> You been?
Yep.
> I have family who have an appartment on Vancouver Island, so
> staying there for a week (after a working weekend), before
> chartering a 32 footer out of vancouver for 7 nights. (23rd - 30th
> April).
Can I carry your bag? I might be in Victoria at the beginning of
April for the World mens Curling Championship.
However as touristy rather than sailing visit :-
The Natural History Museum, the museum of Childhood(?) in Victoria
and Parliament Buildings in Victoria.
Painted buildings at Chemainus.
Sail through the Gulf Islands in the car ferry - even better if they
let you drive the boat!
Nanaimo doesn't do anything for me but the general scenery does and
if you want seals you'll see plenty.
I haven't been in the spring but in October the salmon were so thick
in the water you could walk on them.
The long beach on the Pacific side of Vancouver Island is impressive.
In Vancouver the marina in Stanley Park is mind boggling - all the
yachts have a "garage".
and in Stanley Park you can hire a bike!
If you can talk your way into the Arbutus Club in Vancouver you will
see how the other half live - as well as having some magnificent
views over Vancouver.
hth
Alan Frame
[]
> I have family who have an appartment on Vancouver Island, so staying there
> for a week (after a working weekend), before chartering a 32 footer out of
> vancouver for 7 nights. (23rd - 30th April).
>
> Current 'Rough' itinerary from googling/past landbased visits goes something
> like:
>
> Snug Cove, Ile Bowen
> Nanaimo, Ile Vancouver
> Port Telegraph, Ile Kuper
> Port Montague, Ile Galiano
> Port Ganges, Ile Salt Spring
> Port Degnen, Ile Gabriola
>
> Further suggestions welcome.
Will check pile of mags in my CFT - I'm sure _YM_ did a bit about
Vancouver charter with S*nsail about a year ago.
Sandy Morton
<alan....@acm.org> wrote:
> Will check pile of mags in my CFT - I'm sure _YM_ did a bit about
> Vancouver charter with S*nsail about a year ago.
Forgot that bit - if you do charter from Sunsail tell them that
Christine and Andy in Milina send their regards.
Keelworm
> In article <1grnxbn.tpz6t910v7mmqN%alan....@acm.org>, Alan Frame
> <alan....@acm.org> wrote:
>> Will check pile of mags in my CFT - I'm sure _YM_ did a bit about
>> Vancouver charter with S*nsail about a year ago.
>
Sunsail are looking plausible at the moment, and funnily enough are very
competatice on price.
> Forgot that bit - if you do charter from Sunsail tell them that
> Christine and Andy in Milina send their regards.
>
Also in contact with these people...
http://www.cooperboating.com/
and thinking about this boat...
http://www.cooperboating.com/home.php?ai=image&boat_id=84&num=1
They also offer Catalina's at a lower price but never really heard or had
any experience of them. I have sailed a Hunter 326 before and found it
quite a nice, quick sail for a cruiser.
However, once you factor in Local sales taxes and Insurance, it actually
ends up more expensive than (near-as-damnit) equivelent Sunsail boat.
PG
Keelworm
<snip KW's holiday plans>
> Can I carry your bag? I might be in Victoria at the beginning of
> April for the World mens Curling Championship.
I'd think it'd be you who'd be in need of a Bag-Carrier... those stones must
weigh a fat one!
> However as touristy rather than sailing visit :-
>
> The Natural History Museum, the museum of Childhood(?) in Victoria
> and Parliament Buildings in Victoria.
>
> Painted buildings at Chemainus.
>
> Sail through the Gulf Islands in the car ferry - even better if they
> let you drive the boat!
>
> Nanaimo doesn't do anything for me but the general scenery does and
> if you want seals you'll see plenty.
>
Funily enough this is where the Appartment is... sounds very nice.
Apparently my uncle was out in his Kayak the other day with one of those
but-ugly-whale-manitee-type-things popping up to pay him a visit.
> I haven't been in the spring but in October the salmon were so thick
> in the water you could walk on them.
>
> The long beach on the Pacific side of Vancouver Island is impressive.
>
> In Vancouver the marina in Stanley Park is mind boggling - all the
> yachts have a "garage".
>
> and in Stanley Park you can hire a bike!
>
> If you can talk your way into the Arbutus Club in Vancouver you will
> see how the other half live - as well as having some magnificent
> views over Vancouver.
>
Cheers again Sandy.
PG
Jack Dale
wrote:
>Keelworm <tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
>[]
>> I have family who have an appartment on Vancouver Island, so staying there
>> for a week (after a working weekend), before chartering a 32 footer out of
>> vancouver for 7 nights. (23rd - 30th April).
>>
>> Current 'Rough' itinerary from googling/past landbased visits goes something
>> like:
>>
>> Snug Cove, Ile Bowen
>> Nanaimo, Ile Vancouver
>> Port Telegraph, Ile Kuper
>> Port Montague, Ile Galiano
>> Port Ganges, Ile Salt Spring
>> Port Degnen, Ile Gabriola
>>
>> Further suggestions welcome.
>
The Gulf Islands are my stomping grounds. I have sailed there every
year since 1984.
If you are going to be on Vancouver Island, why not charter from one
of the local charter firms. You will save a day crossing Georgia
Strait. I use Bosun's Charters (www.bosuns.ca).
Other suggestions
Chemanius (murals)
Princess Bay, Wallace Island
Maple Bay
Sidney
Victoria (also by land)
Tod Inlet (near Buchart Gardens)
Poets Cove (upscale)
Otter Bay
Genoa Bay
Sidney Spit
Portland Island (two anchorages - Royal Cove less busy)
For more information, check out
http://www.gulfislands.net/
or
http://www.boattravel.com/ (The website for a good cruising guide)
If you are going out of Vancouver, go north along the Sunshine Coast
instead.
Bowen Island
Gibsons
Smugglers Cove
Secret Cove
Pender Harbour
If you had more time, Desolation Sound is spectacular and you can swim
in the warm water.
If you are crossing georgia Strait, be very careful in transiting any
of the pass into the Gulf Islands as there are very strong currents.
Tides in the Gulf Islands can range 13 feet.
Jack
__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
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Keelworm
Cheers for the info Jack. Had googled, but hadn't turned up any charters on
the Island, will check out www.bosuns.ca.
Will have a good look at the links you've provided.
Many Thanks
Phil.
ManchesterSean
Jack Dale
<tr...@REMOVETHECAPSgoldingweb.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Cheers for the info Jack. Had googled, but hadn't turned up any charters on
>the Island, will check out www.bosuns.ca.
>
>Will have a good look at the links you've provided.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Phil.
I am heading for the Gulf Islands on April 28-29 for a month's worth
of instruction. I am chartering boats from Bosun's. If you are in
the Islands at that time, we maybe bump into each other
(metaphorically speaking, of course).
If you are around at the end of May, you might want to watch
(participate in) the Swiftsure International Yacht Race. It is one of
the premier Pacific Northwest races. (http://www.swiftsure.org/)
Later in June, the Van Isle 360 is a 10 day circumnavigation of
Vancouver Island. (http://www.vanisle360.com/)
Let me know what boat you charter. My email address can be found at:
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com/team.htm
If there is anything else I can help with, let me know.
Welcome to IALA System B ;-)
keelworm
Will almost certainly be doing it... Bosun's have come back with very
good prices.
I'll drop you an email once it's booked to swirfsuresailing and if paths
cross we'll share a beer or two. Will mention your recommendation to
Bosun as/when we book, on the off chance you'll get a nice *Thank You*
from them.
I forwarded your previous post onto my Uncle in BC, and he replied
simply... 'This guy knows his stuff... good info' so thanks once again.
Cheers
Phil.
Dennis Pogson
Always thought Ardrishaig was the entrance to the Crinan. Maybe there a side
entrance though! Lochgoilhead is a branch off Loch Long, Lochgilphead is at
the head of Loch Gilp adjacent to the Crinan Canal, but I suppose if you are
doing the Crinan by car, it would count as an entrance!
Lochgoilhead is well worth a visit. Visitors mooring(s) and excellent if
expensive food. Stay on the west side of Loch Long on the way up and call at
Ardentinny (6 moorings, nice hotel), and stay on the west side past the
submarine base on the way up to Loch Goil, or you will most certainly be
arrested and your yacht inpounded.
> Still quite nice. We had a great nihgt out there and mooring by the
> lock you feel you're in an old fashioned fishing port - which you are.
> In a big wind the sea comes right over the harbour wall. You can use
> the shower at the lock keepers cottage which comfortably fits two!
> <grin>
>
>> Tarbert is a buzzing marina but is very visitor friendly - withdraw
>> the plastic.
>
> Nice place. You can walk up to an old castle. THere's a great feel to
> it and in spring it's quiet.
Why walk up to the castle and miss the best eateries in town? Don't miss The
Vic!
>
>
>> I don't know the west side of Arran but I am told that Campbeltown is
>> best avoided until the sewage problem has been sorted:-(
>
> Ok, don't make a special effort to go to Campbeltown but if you do end
> up there it isn't *that* bad. And the approach is very nice. But yeah.
> It's a vistorian seaside town in decline and the people are odd!
>
>> Lochranza has its own distillery - very ultra modern but with a
>> visitor centre and golden eagles nest nearby.
>
> Great place. We were there alone both times. Stunning. Sums the whole
> region up.
>
>> Lamlash is a typical tourist village and moorings are OK unless the
>> swell is coming from the East.
>
> I think you're playing it down a bit. It *rocks*. Word of warning. We
> were there alone but by the number of empty moorings this place can
> get quite busy. Nothing like the SOuth Coast of course.
>
>
>> Which only leaves the Bicycle Island and I am biased!
>
> A visit to Millport is essetial. Very exposed to the south for over
> nihgt stays though.
>
>> And I did miss the scenery deliberately - it is too fantastic for
>> words.
>
> Yup.
>
>
> I'd add:
>
> Somewhere up loch Fyne is a circular harbour on the west side of th
> eloch. Higher than Crinnan canal. Worth a visit.
Ardrishaig perhaps? Gotta be lower, 'cos this is where you enter the sea
lock! There ain't nothing above Ardrishaig except mud flats! (and
Lochgilphead)
>
> Also the prevailing wind means you should try to get south at the
> start of your tirp and work north later.
>
> Wildlife. You will see seals and Dolphins. Not a lot but probably
> every day. Now that is special!!!!
Dare to visit the Ardmore Islands off Islay's east coast, and the wildlife
is quite spectacular. (So is the entrance!)
Sandy's tourist booklet of the Clyde is exellent, but venture further north,
to Craobh Haven, and the whole of the west coast opens up, and that is
REALLY something! 100 miles by car from Glasgow, or 135 NM by sea via the
Mull of Kintyre, calling at Gigha, Jura, Crinan, Ardfern, Tayvallich (if you
have the time).
Dennis.
Remove "nospam" from return address.
Dan
> Dan wrote:
> > Sandy Morton wrote:
> >> Lochgoilhead is the entrance to the Crinan Canal but that's about
it.
>
> Always thought Ardrishaig was the entrance to the Crinan. Maybe there
a side
> entrance though!
Dunno. Sandy wrote that and he lives there! I alsways thought
Lochgoilhead was the area Ardrishaig was in!!!
> > Nice place. You can walk up to an old castle. THere's a great feel
to
> > it and in spring it's quiet.
>
> Why walk up to the castle and miss the best eateries in town?
We did both. Arrived about 3pm. Up to the Castle. Pissed as farts by
6:30. Next time I went there all the pontoons were closed for safety
reasons!
> > Somewhere up loch Fyne is a circular harbour on the west side of th
> > eloch. Higher than Crinnan canal. Worth a visit.
>
> Ardrishaig perhaps? Gotta be lower, 'cos this is where you enter the
sea
> lock! There ain't nothing above Ardrishaig except mud flats! (and
> Lochgilphead)
Nope. North of Ardrishaig on the west side of the loch is a largish
natural harbour. (It feels like a crater fille dwith water.) THere's a
cemetary on the norhtern side and a village on the southern side. On
the left hand side as you go in is a tiny castle thing.
I'm not making this up. I've seen it. Might not be on your map?
Dennis Pogson
> Dennis Pogson wrote:
>> Dan wrote:
>>> Sandy Morton wrote:
>
>>>> Lochgoilhead is the entrance to the Crinan Canal but that's about
>>>> it.
>>
>> Always thought Ardrishaig was the entrance to the Crinan. Maybe
>> there a side entrance though!
>
> Dunno. Sandy wrote that and he lives there! I alsways thought
> Lochgoilhead was the area Ardrishaig was in!!!
I guess even we locals can make a mistake from time to time. Lochgilphead is
the last place you can stock up with booze etc. on the road up to Craobh
Haven from Glasgow, it lies about 2 miles north of Ardrishaig at the head of
Loch Gilp, and about 15 miles south of Craobh Haven. Common mistake,
everybody gets the two mixed up.
>
>>> Nice place. You can walk up to an old castle. THere's a great feel
>>> to it and in spring it's quiet.
>>
>> Why walk up to the castle and miss the best eateries in town?
>
> We did both. Arrived about 3pm. Up to the Castle. Pissed as farts by
> 6:30. Next time I went there all the pontoons were closed for safety
> reasons!
>
>
>>> Somewhere up loch Fyne is a circular harbour on the west side of th
>>> eloch. Higher than Crinnan canal. Worth a visit.
>>
>> Ardrishaig perhaps? Gotta be lower, 'cos this is where you enter the
>> sea lock! There ain't nothing above Ardrishaig except mud flats! (and
>> Lochgilphead)
>
> Nope. North of Ardrishaig on the west side of the loch is a largish
> natural harbour. (It feels like a crater fille dwith water.) THere's a
> cemetary on the norhtern side and a village on the southern side. On
> the left hand side as you go in is a tiny castle thing.
>
> I'm not making this up. I've seen it. Might not be on your map?
I have a huge scale chart of Loch Gilp, but the only harbour on the west
side is Ardrishaig, and a mile north of this you're into the sand! I guess
it must have been Ardrishaig. (Or you could have been in Loch Fyne proper,
in which case it was Loch Gair, a lovely circular anchorage on the west side
of Upper Loch Fyne just up from the Otter Spit. Lots of moorings, a good
hotel, and a villlage store.)
Only lived here since 1956, so am a bit of a newcomer to the area!
Am working on a new NASA satellite photochart of the West Coast, about the
size of my lounge floor! 130MB!
Enjoy good sailing during your visit!
LOL
Dan
Get some specs Dennis!!! I said "Somewhere up loch Fyne is a circular
harbour on the west side of the loch.". Yes. It must be there. It was
just above Otter spit, 'cos we all laughed about the name otter spit.
This was the day with no wind so we got the cards out and motored up
Loch Fyne. We arrived late afternoon pissed out of our heads with the
card game in a fairly advanced stage. My attention was about 90 per
cent on the cards, 5 per cent on where we were going and 5 per cent
beer addled. Damn I love sailing!
Dan
> Craobh
How do you say this? I say Crow-ab and people are too polite to correct
me.
Sandy Morton
<dennisnos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Dunno. Sandy wrote that and he lives there! I alsways thought
> > Lochgoilhead was the area Ardrishaig was in!!!
> I guess even we locals can make a mistake from time to time.
> Lochgilphead is the last place you can stock up with booze etc. on
> the road up to Craobh Haven from Glasgow, it lies about 2 miles
> north of Ardrishaig at the head of Loch Gilp, and about 15 miles
> south of Craobh Haven. Common mistake, everybody gets the two mixed
> up.
Absolutely correct Dennis - my mistake. I Curl at Drimsynie at
Lochgoilhead and go to AIE meetings at Lochgilphead - both cause
"sair heids" but for different reasons!
Dennis Pogson
You're right! I've crossed The Minch many times and only had a broad reach
once AFAIR. If the weather looks less than perfect, Tobermory is a good
place to hole up in for the night.
If you have room for bikes on board, Barra is the finest island to tour
around by bike. fantastic white sand beaches stretching for miles on the
Atlantic side, totally deserted, as are the roads, and a short trip across
to the anchorage at Vatersay, where the local kids will sell you a couple of
lobsters for a tenner, is well worth it. Not sure if you can't hire bikes at
Castlebay, on Barra.
If the Minch weather looks bad, nip around Ardnamurchan and up the Sound of
Sleat, through Kyle Rhea (with the tide - 8Kts Spg.), under the new Skye
Bridge and round the corner to Plockton, Tony's new summer abode. Fantastic
anchorage, great village, good pubs! About the same distance from Tobermory
as Barra.
Dennis.
Dan
> fantastic white sand beaches stretching for miles on the
> Atlantic side, totally deserted, as are the roads, and a short trip
across
> to the anchorage at Vatersay, where the local kids will sell you a
couple of
> lobsters for a tenner, is well worth it. Not sure if you can't hire
bikes at
> Castlebay, on Barra.
>
> If the Minch weather looks bad, nip around Ardnamurchan and up the
Sound of
> Sleat, through Kyle Rhea (with the tide - 8Kts Spg.), under the new
Skye
> Bridge and round the corner to Plockton, Tony's new summer abode.
Fantastic
> anchorage, great village, good pubs! About the same distance from
Tobermory
> as Barra.
Seen all the above except Plockton and Tobermory. [1] Won't reach
Plockton in the Spring but will see Tobermory. Would like to see Barra
again but I aint tacking to get there so we'll have to see!
[1] The beaches of Barra blew my mind.
Dan
> On 9 Feb 2005 03:42:39 -0800, "Dan" <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> >[1] The beaches of Barra blew my mind.
>
To fund my trips to the Hebrides you mean?
Ronald Raygun
'bh' should sound a bit like a 'v'. So "crove" is close enough, but the
usual recommendation is to use "creuve" with a French 'eu'.
Dan
> On 9 Feb 2005 04:36:34 -0800, "Dan" <danny_de...@yahoo.co.uk>
> I'm not sure how much you'd fetch. :-)
Last time I was there I reckon I'd have been in the top 25 per cent in
terms of whore quality. There were some right mingers.
Can't say I indulged in *any* of the A'dam staples tho. Clean living,
me.
Dennis Pogson
Pronounced "croove haven", these Gaelic pronunciations!
Dan
>
> Pronounced "croove haven", these Gaelic pronunciations!
Yup. ISTR the sound of hysterical giggling when we spotted Rhubba Dub
three years back...
Ronald Raygun
Don't tell me, let me guess. There were three of you aboard.
Rubha, surely. Gaelic has no words begginning with "Rh", which is
one of the reasons Rhum was renamed back to Rum, the previous renaming
having been at the instigation of its Victorian owner, Sir George
Bullough (perhaps because his wife was a teetotaller), even though
the name had no connection at all to the tipple, and is sometimes
written with a grave accent on the u, and pronounced "room".
Dan
> Dan wrote:
three years back...
>
> Don't tell me, let me guess. There were three of you aboard.
Nope. 4 Two girls, two Blokes. Usually three blokes though, just one
guy dropped out and gave us all the excuse we needed to take the
girlies along for a treat for them and to spread the cost.
> Rubha, surely. Gaelic has no words begginning with "Rh", which is
> one of the reasons Rhum was renamed back to Rum, the previous
renaming
> having been at the instigation of its Victorian owner, Sir George
> Bullough (perhaps because his wife was a teetotaller), even though
> the name had no connection at all to the tipple, and is sometimes
> written with a grave accent on the u, and pronounced "room".
Yeah. Dunno how to spell it without the map in front of me. Cracked us
up at the time tho!
Tony of Judicious
>
> If the Minch weather looks bad, nip around Ardnamurchan
I hardly think '..nip around..' is quite the right description for a quite
awkward headland.
Dennis Pogson
Didn't want to scare'em Tony! Ardnamurchan is at it's worst in the mist/fog.
At least when there's a gale blowing in from the Atlantic you can take a
look and go back to Tobermory!
LOL
Dan
What makes it awkard?
I've been past it before and it left no impression.
Wind? Tide?
Dan
> Didn't want to scare'em Tony!
I'm not scared! We both know our limits. If we don't fancy something
we'll just do something else.
Have to say I've been past it befroe (not out of the Sound though) and
it was ok. Hopefully TofJ will offer some more advice.
Tony of Judicious
Several factors:
Like most headlands there is a bit of a riip off it, OK if you clear it by a
mile or two, but coming out of the Sound of Mull you seem to have to go a
long way out of your way when heading N. (Not as bad as rounding Cape Wrath
this year when I went 5 miles off).
Towards Ardnamurchan most sailing is in sheltered waters - Sound of Jura,
Firth of Lorne, Sound of Mull. If you look at the map Ardnamurchan has
little protection from the West - it is exposed in a gap betweeen Coll and
Barra - so it gets the full blast of any W'ly wind and swell.
Once past in N'thwds there is a throughly inhospitable bit of coast with
nowhere that is really accessible in bad weather because of swell until
Mallaig.
I have noticed that culturally Ardnamurchan is a bit of gate - up to
Ardnamurchan the type of sailing reminds me of the Solent, N of it there is
very different feel to the sailing, much more 'rugged'.
PS - Hope when you rounded it you tied a bunch of heather to the pulpit.
Dan
> Like most headlands there is a bit of a riip off it, OK if you clear
it by a
> mile or two, but coming out of the Sound of Mull you seem to have to
go a
> long way out of your way when heading N. (Not as bad as rounding Cape
Wrath
> this year when I went 5 miles off).
>
> Towards Ardnamurchan most sailing is in sheltered waters - Sound of
Jura,
> Firth of Lorne, Sound of Mull. If you look at the map Ardnamurchan
has
> little protection from the West - it is exposed in a gap betweeen
Coll and
> Barra - so it gets the full blast of any W'ly wind and swell.
>
> Once past in N'thwds there is a throughly inhospitable bit of coast
with
> nowhere that is really accessible in bad weather because of swell
until
> Mallaig.
>
> I have noticed that culturally Ardnamurchan is a bit of gate - up to
> Ardnamurchan the type of sailing reminds me of the Solent, N of it
there is
> very different feel to the sailing, much more 'rugged'.
Cheers Tony. Read carefully and printed off.
> PS - Hope when you rounded it you tied a bunch of heather to the
pulpit.
We didn't know we had to!
Graham Frankland
news:420b2a73$0$7917$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> I have noticed that culturally Ardnamurchan is a bit of gate - up to
> Ardnamurchan the type of sailing reminds me of the Solent, N of it there
is
> very different feel to the sailing, much more 'rugged'.
>
> PS - Hope when you rounded it you tied a bunch of heather to the pulpit.
>
Graham.
Ronald Raygun
> "Tony of Judicious" <to...@deletethis.thoward.plus.com> wrote
>>
>> PS - Hope when you rounded it you tied a bunch of heather to the pulpit.
>
> And gather the heather before setting sail!!!
Eh?