Scotland West Coast
Kev Nurse
Terry Bailey wrote in message <85g0jq$4g3$1...@supernews.com>...Hi,Is there anyone who is contemplating cruising the Scottish West Coast this year? I sail a Fisher 30 and the West is my favourite cruising ground,I hope to make it to the outer isles mid May- mid June weather permitting St. Kilda is still on the wish list, two years ago we got to the Monarch Isles before it all went wrong but live in hope.Interested to hear any up to date information re. the west coast or just general sailing chat. TerryWith the exception of my first week's sailing, which was in the solent, all of my sailing experience is off the Scottish West Coast. I intend to do another 2 or 3 weeks this year. I intend to sail from Troon during the first outing, back to Troon. The next one will be from Kyle of Lochalsh, ending up in Ardfern (or vice versa). Finally the last week will be from Oban returning to Oban.Re the outer isles, Lochmaddy on N Uist and Castle bay on Barra are the only 2 places I've been to and I found them to be quite pleasant. Couldn't live there though.
Terry Bailey
Terry Bailey
Sandy Morton
Terry Bailey <terry...@lineone.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have any updated information on the mooring situation, I believe in places like Tobermory that the free H.I.D.B. moorings have been taken over by the local authority and will now be charged for
The ones in Millport Bay are maintained by the local authority but
are still FREE.
Alisdair Gurney
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Kev.
> I see you are moving your sailing around, are you using the same boat
> or are you chartering in different places?
> I was in Castle Bay two years ago and agree with your sentiments.
> I believe in places like Tobermory that the free H.I.D.B. moorings
> have been taken over by the local authority and will now be charged
> due for renewal, at least it should stop people trying to double up
> with you on a swinging mooring, an unseamanlike procedure in areas
> subject to swell.
Nonsense. The only swell in Tobermory Bay is from the CalMac ferry.
When the HIDB moorings were introduced, the tourist board leaflets
at that time laid down the rules for their use - basically that
you shouldn't be selfish and keep it to yourself, the moorings were
laid for 25 tons and you should share up to that limit. I've regularly
seen four on a mooring in Tobermory Bay in West Highland week.
If you don't like company then drop your hook at the Dorlin.
Regards,
Alisdair
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Alisdair Gurney
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Martin Lawrence
> When the HIDB moorings were introduced, the tourist board leaflets
> at that time laid down the rules for their use - basically that
> you shouldn't be selfish and keep it to yourself, the moorings were
> laid for 25 tons and you should share up to that limit. I've regularly
> seen four on a mooring in Tobermory Bay in West Highland week.
>
> If you don't like company then drop your hook at the Dorlin.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alisdair
>
> ------------------------------
> Alisdair Gurney
> alis...@agurney.demon.co.uk
> http://www.agurney.demon.co.uk/
>
Current official recommendations are not to double up. I don't think
they were ever intended for as much as 25T, but all have been re-laid
since then. Some places are more exposed than Tobermory, and what
happens when the wind gets up in the middle of the night - lots of agro.
CalMac ferry no longer calls at Tobermory.
Refer to FREE publication 'Welcome Ashore', by Sail Scotland, The
Promenade, Largs, KA30 8BQ for current list of all visitors' moorings.
West Coast Almanac is published by Clyde Marine Press, Westgate, Toward,
PA23 7UA, Tel and Fax 01369 870251. Price (1999) £12.95.
Martin Lawrence (author of Imray 'Yachtsman's Pilots' to West Coast of
Scotland - may I ask anyone to provide info. for corrections?).
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Before you buy.
Rolf Kleinecke
i am a german sailor with a fisher 30. please sorry for my bad english but i
never learnt english on a school and i never was in england. my home sailing
area is the ijsselmeer (netherland) and the north coast netherland's and
german. my next plan is a turn from makkum (ijsselmeer) to the wash. can
anyone give me information about the wash and the finest location in this
area? by the way: i sailing single handed.
thanks rolf
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Terry Bailey
If you think that the only swell in Tobermory is from the ferries then I
can only think that you don't spend much time there in bad weather, which I
agree makes good sense as there are far better places to wait out bad
weather but on a more serious note there have been times even in good
weather when I have seen quite a good swell, probably tidal generated
tossing boats around on the moorings. I also see nothing selfish in not
wanting to share a swinging mooring I have seen boats damaged from just the
wash of passing boats, I don't think you can moor four boats to one mooring
and spread the load evenly, it is a totally different thing to raft three
boats with one taking the load in calm weather for a short time, a thing I
usually associate with friends or people with a common interest such as a
race doing rather
than someone cruising who may want to go off ashore and know the boat will
be safe in their absence. To be honest I would rather lay to my own anchor
chain than a mooring of unknown condition but in places like Tobermory that
is not easy, all the shallow water is full of moorings and most of the
bottom is such soft mud that an anchor won't hold in a breeze, it's ok down
the far end in Aros Bay but three or four boats fills the place.
Perhaps you were right in the beginning and I am anti social preferring a
quiet nights sleep to the noise of squeaky fenders, snatching warps and
drunks who won't go to bed, who worse still haven't invited me to the party.
Kind regards,
Terry
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> Terry Bailey <terry...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Kev.
> > I see you are moving your sailing around, are you using the same boat
> > or are you chartering in different places?
> > I was in Castle Bay two years ago and agree with your sentiments.
> > Does anyone have any updated information on the mooring situation,
> > I believe in places like Tobermory that the free H.I.D.B. moorings
> > have been taken over by the local authority and will now be charged
> > for a pity but perhaps understandable as a lot of the tackle must be
> > due for renewal, at least it should stop people trying to double up
> > with you on a swinging mooring, an unseamanlike procedure in areas
> > subject to swell.
>
> Nonsense. The only swell in Tobermory Bay is from the CalMac ferry.
>
TonyB
I should imagine that you could sail up the Ouse at a suitable tide to Kings
Lynn.
There is a sailing club there and the quayside is within walking distance of
the town which is pretty and historic. (With good beer!)
Please post again if you require more info
Tony
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Alisdair Gurney
Martin Lawrence <err...@x-stream.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Current official recommendations are not to double up. I don't think
> they were ever intended for as much as 25T,
Agreed, 10-15 tons is more likely as per your 'Crinan to Canna'.
I was a bit too hasty putting finger to keyboard.
> but all have been re-laid
> since then. Some places are more exposed than Tobermory, and what
> happens when the wind gets up in the middle of the night - lots of agro.
> CalMac ferry no longer calls at Tobermory.
Oops - I remember signing the petition but I didn't know
it was all over.
> Martin Lawrence (author of Imray 'Yachtsman's Pilots' to West Coast of
> Scotland - may I ask anyone to provide info. for corrections?).
Are the current corections available on-line anywhere? The only
supplement I have is #1 for the Clyde to Colonsay volume which is
dated 1994. I've a few pencil jottings, but there's every chance they've
been picked up in later editions.
Regards,
Alisdair
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Phil T
river! It is also in the furthest to reach corner of the Wash.
Boston is more like a quayside than a harbour and is 5 miles upriver from
the entrance.
The entrances to the smaller harbours can be very tricky with the sandbanks
moving on virtually every tide.
The smaller harbours have narrow channels and very powerfull ebb's as much
as 7kts against you at full flow, the trip boats and fishing boats have the
most powerfull engines I have heard of in this area!
The whole area is very relatively shallow and is deadly in a wind against
tide situation, Couple this with an area that dries for hundreds of square
miles for most of the tidal cycle and you see the picture?
I would say the easiest harbour to enter if you must is "Wells-next-the
sea".
However unless you are very VERY experienced I would recomend you look
elsewhere Great Yarmouth or Harwich etc.....
Regards.
Phil.
Ian Wright
<rolf.kl...@nwn.de> wrote:
>hi anybody,
>i am a german sailor with a fisher 30. please sorry for my bad english but i
>never learnt english on a school and i never was in england. my home sailing
>area is the ijsselmeer (netherland) and the north coast netherland's and
>german. my next plan is a turn from makkum (ijsselmeer) to the wash. can
>anyone give me information about the wash and the finest location in this
>area? by the way: i sailing single handed.
Why do you feel the need to go to the Wash? It is a dreadful sailing
area, very shallow with difficult tides and nothing to see. Try the
east coast south of Lowestoft, far better.
Why not cruise through Holland and enter the North Sea at Vlissingen
then sail over to Harwich. Then you can enjoy the best of east coast
sailing, not the worst.
Cheers, Ian ;)
Martin Lawrence
> Are the current corections available on-line anywhere? The only
> supplement I have is #1 for the Clyde to Colonsay volume which is
> dated 1994. I've a few pencil jottings, but there's every chance
they've > been picked up in later editions.
>
Currently amendments / supplements are published on www.imray.com. There
should at present be one for Clyde to Colonsay, one for Skye and North
West Scotland, and two for Western Isles.
Crinan to Canna has been replaced by a new title 'Isle of Mull' as the
Small Isles and all north of Ardnamurchan has been shifted to 'Skye and
NW'.
There will be supplements for Mull, Skye and NW, and W Isles during this
spring, and possibly for Clyde to Colonsay, but there will also have to
be a completely new edition for that in any case.
Regards, Martin
Martin Lawrence
Ian > >german. my next plan is a turn from makkum (ijsselmeer) to the
wash.
can
> >anyone give me information about the wash and the finest location in
this
> >area? by the way: i sailing single handed.
>
at any of the books published by Imrays. Also consider going to
Scotland. In 2001 The Forth and Clyde canal will be re-opened and you
can go through to the west coast, although you will have to drop your
mast. I made the opposite passage in 1991 from Amble in Northumberland
to West Terschelling and then to the Ijsselmeer and to Delfzijl and then
to the Baltic (Ostsee) where I kept my boat for several years.
Good sailing