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Alec Sanders

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Feb 2, 2002, 5:20:46 PM2/2/02
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Hello!

I was into the whole radio scene about 6 years ago, and plan someday to get
back into it. I've never been HERE before today, though.

Can anyone tell me: is Citizens Band magazine still in publication? And does
it have a website?

Also - where would you say was the best place on the web to get general
info. about CB? Especially current regulations and proposed changes etc.

Many thanx
alec
aka Digital
aka 26AS197


toxic waste

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Feb 3, 2002, 4:44:59 AM2/3/02
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"Alec Sanders" <webm...@mrsanders.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3c5c663d$1...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>...


Citizensband magazine is now a collector&#8217;s item; it packed up a
few years ago. Radio Active is the only mag that has Cb&#8217;er can
buy these days (dunno if it&#8217;s got a web site)&#8230;and that
contains precious little on Cb&#8217;ing. It usually appears around
the middle of the month and costs £2-25, available at WH Smith&#8217;s
(by order) and over the counter from most of the few remaining Cb
outlets.

As for the best place on the web to find out what&#8217;s happening on
the Cb scene, you have just found it, that is if you can be bothered
to filter out all the shit posted by the hams.

Welcome Back
toxic_waste

Alec Sanders

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Feb 3, 2002, 8:17:00 AM2/3/02
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"toxic waste" <toxic...@citizensband.com> wrote in message
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Thanx toxic_waste

You paint a rather bleak scene - hope it's not all bad!

(a collector's item, eh?...)

alec


toxic waste

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Feb 3, 2002, 10:02:43 AM2/3/02
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Oop's dont know what happened there...try again

Citizensband magazine is now a collectors item; it packed up a
few years ago. Radio Active is the only mag that a Cb&#8217;er can
buy these days (dunno if it&#8217;s got a web site) and it


contains precious little on Cb&#8217;ing. It usually appears around
the middle of the month and costs £2-25, available at WH Smith

(by order) and over the counter from most of the few remaining Cb
outlets.

As for the best place on the web to find out what&#8217;s happening on

the Cb scene, you have just found it...that is if you can be bothered

the_wire...@hotmail.com

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Feb 4, 2002, 7:27:43 AM2/4/02
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toxic...@citizensband.com (toxic waste) wrote in message news:<1f2adfc1.02020...@posting.google.com>...

Put a CB rig in the car and go up a hill at night time. That's the
best way of finding out what is happening in the UK. For the rest of
the world just listen to 27.555/26.285 in the afternoon.
The internet can't tell you everything about CB because there are
CBers who don't have the internet at home or don't want to discuss CB
using it.

Brainbuster

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Feb 5, 2002, 10:31:25 PM2/5/02
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toxic waste <toxic...@citizensband.com> wrote in message
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> Oop's dont know what happened there...try again
>
> Citizensband magazine is now a collectors item; it packed up a
> few years ago. Radio Active is the only mag that a Cb&#8217;er can
> buy these days (dunno if it&#8217;s got a web site) and it
> contains precious little on Cb&#8217;ing. It usually appears around
> the middle of the month and costs £2-25, available at WH Smith
> (by order) and over the counter from most of the few remaining Cb
> outlets.
===

Citizens Band magazine became Radio Active when it was taken over by a
certain radio shop.
I think the idea was to gain the interest of a wider audience, but I imagine
it failed. The Amateurs already had plenty of magazines that didn't mention
CB, and there was too little CB info for it to be of great interest to CBers.

I gave up on it totally... it became a waste of money.
Haven't seen it in the shops lately, is it still going?


Peter.
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luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 6, 2002, 3:10:16 PM2/6/02
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 03:31:25 -0000, "Brainbuster" <br...@buster.com>
wrote:

>I gave up on it totally... it became a waste of money.
>Haven't seen it in the shops lately, is it still going?

Take a look on the 'Practical Wireless' website and be astonished....
Or something :-)

Nick

the_wire...@hotmail.com

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Feb 7, 2002, 7:08:06 AM2/7/02
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"Brainbuster" <br...@buster.com> wrote in message news:<a3q8pb$ncv$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> Citizens Band magazine became Radio Active when it was taken over by a
> certain radio shop.
> I think the idea was to gain the interest of a wider audience, but I imagine
> it failed. The Amateurs already had plenty of magazines that didn't mention
> CB, and there was too little CB info for it to be of great interest to CBers.
>
> I gave up on it totally... it became a waste of money.
> Haven't seen it in the shops lately, is it still going?

Practical Wireless had a CB section until about 1993. I've got a copy
of it from 1992 and there is an article about coax and SWR aimed at CB
users.
In 1982 the CB section had an article about how aerial height affected
signal strength (it gave the 'plane earth' formula for calculating
signal strength at a distance). There was also something about
efficency of mobile CB aerials.
There's always space in Radcom for CB articles, it's time there was a
'Peter Hart' or 'Chris Lorek' review of some CB type amplifiers so
that people have some real measurements of intermodulation and
harmonics instead of the usual "planes will crash" type warnings.

luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 7, 2002, 2:35:12 PM2/7/02
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On 7 Feb 2002 04:08:06 -0800, the_wire...@hotmail.com
(the_wire...@hotmail.com) wrote:

>There's always space in Radcom for CB articles, it's time there was a
>'Peter Hart' or 'Chris Lorek' review of some CB type amplifiers so
>that people have some real measurements of intermodulation and
>harmonics instead of the usual "planes will crash" type warnings.

But what's the point in reviewing something that will remain illegal
to use?

Keven R. Matthews

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Feb 7, 2002, 5:31:13 PM2/7/02
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About 1991 a magazine called ' Radio Active' appeared for a few months and
then closed again. Some years later Mike Devereux of Nevada bought up the
title ' Citizens Band ' and subseqently renamed it 'Citzens Band Radio
Active' and then just Radio Active.

Keven


<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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..
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:41:16 +0000, Jon Harris
> <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Saw nothing about Radio Active but did see this...
>
> Bu**er! You're right. They've deleted an item that was on there
> last month. I may still have it in the cache on my other computer,
> I'll have a look and copy it here if I can find it.
>
> Thanks Nick.


Monty

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Feb 7, 2002, 5:34:28 PM2/7/02
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"Jon Harris" <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> wrote >
> Saw nothing about Radio Active but did see this...
>
According to the February issue of Practical Wireless the February issue of
Radio Active went on sale 18th January and is available on the 3rd Friday of
every month. If you can't get a copy call 01202 659930 (allegedly)

Monty


Jon Harris

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:36:23 AM2/8/02
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:31:13 -0000, "Keven R. Matthews"
<ma...@keven.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:

>About 1991 a magazine called ' Radio Active' appeared for a few months and
>then closed again. Some years later Mike Devereux of Nevada bought up the
>title ' Citizens Band ' and subseqently renamed it 'Citzens Band Radio
>Active' and then just Radio Active.

So we have PW buying then closing Radio Active, and the RSGB buying
then closing Radio Today. So now we're left with PW (Blue Peter Radio
reviews) or the RSGB membership and Radcom (hardly very impartial
reviews)

As i said earlier, time for an ARRL sub methinks...

Cheers,

Jon.

gm4

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Feb 8, 2002, 2:00:41 PM2/8/02
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In article <3c630...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>,
ma...@keven.worldonline.co.uk says...

> About 1991 a magazine called ' Radio Active' appeared for a few months and
> then closed again. Some years later Mike Devereux of Nevada bought up the
> title ' Citizens Band ' and subseqently renamed it 'Citzens Band Radio
> Active' and then just Radio Active.

... and now all RSGB-independent magazines belong to PW
Publishing, just like all Banks belong to ... and all super-
markets belong to ... etc.

Richard

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Feb 8, 2002, 2:10:48 PM2/8/02
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All super markets belong to who then ???????????

"gm4" <maru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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mooser

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:26:54 PM2/8/02
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"Jon Harris" <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> wrote in message
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> As i said earlier, time for an ARRL sub methinks...

And about time too Harris :-)


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Feb 9, 2002, 11:57:59 AM2/9/02
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I got the March copy of Radio Active to-day.

I get the magazine by subscription and I've not received anything from the
publishers to indicate they intend to close the magazine.

73, Ian.


Jon Harris wrote in message ...

gm4

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:25 PM2/9/02
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In article <1013274299.28996....@news.demon.co.uk>,
i...@bartg.demon.co.uk says...

> Jon Harris wrote in message ...
> >On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:31:13 -0000, "Keven R. Matthews"
> ><ma...@keven.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>About 1991 a magazine called ' Radio Active' appeared for a few months and
> >>then closed again. Some years later Mike Devereux of Nevada bought up the
> >>title ' Citizens Band ' and subseqently renamed it 'Citzens Band Radio
> >>Active' and then just Radio Active.
> >
> >So we have PW buying then closing Radio Active, and the RSGB buying
> >then closing Radio Today. So now we're left with PW (Blue Peter Radio
> >reviews) or the RSGB membership and Radcom (hardly very impartial
> >reviews)
> >
> >As i said earlier, time for an ARRL sub methinks...

> I got the March copy of Radio Active to-day.


>
> I get the magazine by subscription and I've not received anything from the
> publishers to indicate they intend to close the magazine.

Who said they were closing it?

(And please do not top-post.)

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gm4

gm4

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:27 PM2/9/02
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In article <a417ru$1as2ge$1...@ID-117712.news.dfncis.de>,
die...@blueyonder.co.uk says...

> All super markets belong to who then ???????????

You wait and see ... Somerfield take over Kwik Save;
Somerfield/Kwik Save take over Sainsbury's who has
taken over Safeway, who has taken over Tesco ... and
so on ...

>
What a bloody awful post. What were you trying to do
there?

------%<------

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gm4

Axle Jack

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Feb 9, 2002, 6:48:25 PM2/9/02
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> But what's the point in reviewing something that will remain illegal
> to use?

they are not illegal to use on 10m band, assuming you have a license for 10m
that is. (sorry M3s:-)


Jon Harris

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:59:06 PM2/9/02
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:31:25 -0000, gm4 <maru...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I got the March copy of Radio Active to-day.


>>
>> I get the magazine by subscription and I've not received anything from the
>> publishers to indicate they intend to close the magazine.
>
>Who said they were closing it?

Wasn't in my small paper shop today. It's definitely getting more
difficult to find.

It doesn't help that the CB shop in Hastings (In-Range) has now shut
up shop. There own fault really, he was even more expensive than Doug!
;-)

Doug's service was better too...

Cheers,

Jon.

luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 9, 2002, 7:45:27 PM2/9/02
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I do have a licence that would allow me to use such things.
But the original quote didn't mention 10M, it said...

>>'Peter Hart' or 'Chris Lorek' review of some CB type amplifiers so
>>that people have some real measurements of intermodulation and
>>harmonics instead of the usual "planes will crash" type warnings.

D'oh! Call me old fashioned if you like, but when I see the words "CB
type amplifiers" in a posting to a cb newsgroup, in a thread about CB
magazines. I sort of assume the writer is at least interested in such
items being used for cb. Which is why I asked "what's the point in


reviewing something that will remain illegal to use?"


Old Nick - Stating the bleedin' obvious, to the bleedin' oblivious.

Brainbuster

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Feb 9, 2002, 7:20:40 PM2/9/02
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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
news:3c618bc1...@news.btinternet.com...
===

Never mind that, I found a site listed as the "Radio Active Magazine" site.
Check out this incredible web site...
http://www.radio-active.co.uk/


Peter.
---


fre...@workplc.com

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:43:12 PM2/9/02
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Jon Harris <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> Correct me if I'm wrong but, you
said:

Thats the bloody typical selfish hypocritical attitude of the
uneducated!

CB radio (and HAM) is dying on it's feet and your saying its the shop
owners fault, and have the balls to moan and say it does not help- in
the same breath jeeezzz
From what I heard (reliable source) the shop in hastings was robbed once
to often, nothing to do with making too much or too little money.
If he (or anyone) had under cut Doug's price and dougs shut shop what
would you say ? what would/will you do if more CB shops close and you
can't get the stuff? Radio users are getting fewer and fewer at it's
current rate of decline you will be lucky to have half a dozen shops in
the whole of the uk in 5 years time. Typical HAM attitude wantingto
pay nothing for it and demanding change as well.
Retail shops are there to make money there is little profit to begin
with. what do you want? maybe they should have two or three jobs just
to allow you to get your stuff cheap.

How much profit do you think a shop would make from you buying a copy
of Radio Active once a month ? which by the way would have been the
same price in both shops it's printed on the cover Duh!

Prices of course vary i.e
the Cobra 29 was cheaper at inrange the
Cobra 25- was cheaper at knights
Maycom AH27 £5 dearer at inrange
Team Pico £10 dearer at Knights

End of rant


andy

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Feb 10, 2002, 6:00:31 AM2/10/02
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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
news:3c62d0ef...@news.btinternet.com...
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:41:16 +0000, Jon Harris

> <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Saw nothing about Radio Active but did see this...
>
> Bu**er! You're right. They've deleted an item that was on there
> last month. I may still have it in the cache on my other computer,
> I'll have a look and copy it here if I can find it.

If it's not there then try www.archive.org.


gm4

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Feb 10, 2002, 12:12:36 PM2/10/02
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> Jon Harris wrote in message ...


> >On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:31:13 -0000, "Keven R. Matthews"
> ><ma...@keven.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>About 1991 a magazine called ' Radio Active' appeared for a few months and
> >>then closed again. Some years later Mike Devereux of Nevada bought up the
> >>title ' Citizens Band ' and subseqently renamed it 'Citzens Band Radio
> >>Active' and then just Radio Active.
> >
> >So we have PW buying then closing Radio Active, and the RSGB buying
> >then closing Radio Today. So now we're left with PW (Blue Peter Radio
> >reviews) or the RSGB membership and Radcom (hardly very impartial
> >reviews)
> >
> >As i said earlier, time for an ARRL sub methinks...

> I got the March copy of Radio Active to-day.


>
> I get the magazine by subscription and I've not received anything from the
> publishers to indicate they intend to close the magazine.

Who said they were closing it?

(And please do not top-post.)

--
gm4

gm4

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Feb 10, 2002, 12:12:47 PM2/10/02
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In article <a417ru$1as2ge$1...@ID-117712.news.dfncis.de>,
die...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
> All super markets belong to who then ???????????

You wait and see ... Somerfield take over Kwik Save;

gm4

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Feb 10, 2002, 12:58:21 PM2/10/02
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In article <gaab6usfks2hc4ftd...@4ax.com>,
j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk says...

> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:31:25 -0000, gm4 <maru...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <1013274299.28996....@news.demon.co.uk>,
> >i...@bartg.demon.co.uk says...
>
> >> I got the March copy of Radio Active to-day.
> >>
> >> I get the magazine by subscription and I've not received anything from the
> >> publishers to indicate they intend to close the magazine.
> >
> >Who said they were closing it?
>
> Wasn't in my small paper shop today. It's definitely getting more
> difficult to find.

I get it every month on order from the newsagent. There was a problem
with one month which was the fault of the distributor, but this has
now been resolved.



> It doesn't help that the CB shop in Hastings (In-Range) has now shut
> up shop. There own fault really, he was even more expensive than Doug!
> ;-)

Oh well, if you buy your magazines from such dubious sources ... ...

gm4

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Feb 10, 2002, 12:13:29 PM2/10/02
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In article <a417ru$1as2ge$1...@ID-117712.news.dfncis.de>,
die...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
> All super markets belong to who then ???????????

You wait and see ... Somerfield take over Kwik Save;

Jon Harris

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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:20:40 -0000, "Brainbuster" <br...@buster.com>
wrote:


>Never mind that, I found a site listed as the "Radio Active Magazine" site.
>Check out this incredible web site...
> http://www.radio-active.co.uk/

Hmmm, stunning!!!

Cheerio,

Jon.

Jon Harris

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Feb 10, 2002, 4:26:05 PM2/10/02
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:48:25 +1000, "Axle Jack"
<axle...@REMOVE-TO-REPLYdingoblue.net.au> wrote:

Oi! Leave us M3 alone!! :-))

Cheers,

Jon - wishing he'd never sold his TS-440 :-(


Jon Harris

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Feb 10, 2002, 4:52:11 PM2/10/02
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 01:43:12 GMT, fre...@workplc.com wrote:

>Jon Harris <j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk> Correct me if I'm wrong but, you
>said:

>>Wasn't in my small paper shop today. It's definitely getting more


>>difficult to find.
>>
>>It doesn't help that the CB shop in Hastings (In-Range) has now shut
>>up shop. There own fault really, he was even more expensive than Doug!
>>;-)
>

>Thats the bloody typical selfish hypocritical attitude of the
>uneducated!

Please note the smiley... Uneducated? <ged>thats = that's i trust?
</ged>

>CB radio (and HAM) is dying on it's feet and your saying its the shop
>owners fault, and have the balls to moan and say it does not help- in
>the same breath jeeezzz

I've touched a nerve here methinks! It's "you're" not "your" too...

>If he (or anyone) had under cut Doug's price and dougs shut shop what
>would you say?

The fittest survive?

>what would/will you do if more CB shops close and you
>can't get the stuff?

The market will support a given amount of shops, but as this one
closed due to repeated thefts and not due to a lack of buisness (in
your opinion) it hardly representative.

>Radio users are getting fewer and fewer at it's
>current rate of decline you will be lucky to have half a dozen shops in
>the whole of the uk in 5 years time.

Given that most black box ham buyers shop at just 2 big dealers, that
doesn't sound unrealistic.

>Typical HAM attitude wantingto
>pay nothing for it and demanding change as well.

Before you have a rant, try a little data collection. I'd bought my
last 2 new radios from Inrange, I'd bought my aerials from them my
coax, plugs and also RA. I would buy RA from them even though it was
the best part of a hours round drive because i wanted to support them
as best i could.

I was willing to pay a PREMIUM to support the local shop, and DEMANDED
nothing other than decent service.

>Retail shops are there to make money there is little profit to begin
>with. what do you want? maybe they should have two or three jobs just
>to allow you to get your stuff cheap.

Ask yourself then how other shops make money, stay in business and
manage to charge less. I appreciate that they're not a charity, but
anyone who'd tried their website must've been put off for good.

>How much profit do you think a shop would make from you buying a copy
>of Radio Active once a month ? which by the way would have been the
>same price in both shops it's printed on the cover Duh!

Same price? Noooooo really? Check the facts, if you've asked before
you through your teddy out of the pram you'd know I'd bought almost
everything from them in the last few years. If you want to know the
truth, it involved a rig with an alignment problem, let's just say i
was suspicious about the "repair". The fact it was handed back to me
in a shitty old carrier bag was the icing on the cake. That is what
pissed me off, and if you'd asked me why I'd have told you.

Just because the the hobby is declining I wasn't going to support
further a shop that appeared to be taking the proverbial frankly.

And if youwere responsible for their appalling website, hang you head
in shame! ;-))

Regards,

Jon.

Phil Manning

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Feb 10, 2002, 5:07:03 PM2/10/02
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Talking to the editor of PW (G3XFD ) on the phone the other day there
does not seem to be a problem with Radio Active, Elaine G4LFM is still
producing it.

Phil.

Axle Jack

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Feb 10, 2002, 9:53:40 PM2/10/02
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> Oi! Leave us M3 alone!! :-))

Sorry

> Jon - wishing he'd never sold his TS-440 :-(

I told you it was a good rig when you bought, but no, you thought you needed
a house more. Get your priorities right man!


Axle Jack

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Feb 10, 2002, 9:52:35 PM2/10/02
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> I do have a licence that would allow me to use such things.

Me too, arent we brilliant, indeed gods among men.

> But the original quote didn't mention 10M, it said...

rant snipped.

Didn't this thread include much about CB being included in amateur
magazines?

Besides, who cares? You lot have grown terribly touchy since I was last
here, chill out.

luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 11, 2002, 4:46:53 AM2/11/02
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:52:35 +1000, "Axle Jack"
<axle...@REMOVE-TO-REPLYdingoblue.net.au> wrote:

>Me too, arent we brilliant, indeed gods among men.

You might think of yourself as such. I understand that many Aussies
think of themselves like that (You've adapted well to the country).

Not me sunshine! ;-)

>> But the original quote didn't mention 10M, it said...
>rant snipped.

That's the way to do it... Snip the bit that blows your argument.
Obviously you've been taking lessons from Radio Sham. :-)

>Didn't this thread include much about CB being included in amateur
>magazines?

The actual quote I orig. responded to was:

>>There's always space in Radcom for CB articles, it's time there was a


>>'Peter Hart' or 'Chris Lorek' review of some CB type amplifiers so
>>that people have some real measurements of intermodulation and
>>harmonics instead of the usual "planes will crash" type warnings.

N.B. "There's always space in Radcom for CB articles"

I didn't say - there's always space in Radcom for articles on
using/modifying cb equipment for use on the amateur bands. Or words
to that effect, which is the implication of your posting.

The thread mentions many things. Including Kwik Save supermarkets.

>Besides, who cares?

Well you obviously do.

>You lot have grown terribly touchy since I was last
>here, chill out.

Bleedin my place! He really is becoming an Aussie!

Old Nick - Stirring just to agitate the dregs.

the_wire...@hotmail.com

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Feb 11, 2002, 6:17:11 AM2/11/02
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luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote in message news:<3c62d2b3...@news.btinternet.com>...
> On 7 Feb 2002 04:08:06 -0800, the_wire...@hotmail.com

> (the_wire...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
> >There's always space in Radcom for CB articles, it's time there was a
> >'Peter Hart' or 'Chris Lorek' review of some CB type amplifiers so
> >that people have some real measurements of intermodulation and
> >harmonics instead of the usual "planes will crash" type warnings.
>
> But what's the point in reviewing something that will remain illegal
> to use?

It isn't illegal for use on amateur bands.
Even thought they might be illegal for CB use, people will keep buying
them. It's better to make an informed choice even if what you are
doing is against the law.
It's better for people to have a real idea of why these things might
be illegal rather than being told "it's because they're illegal,
that's why you can't use them".
All tests should be done independently of any government agency.

luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 11, 2002, 11:31:18 AM2/11/02
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On 11 Feb 2002 03:17:11 -0800, the_wire...@hotmail.com
(the_wire...@hotmail.com) wrote:

>It isn't illegal for use on amateur bands.

Nobody said it was.

>Even thought they might be illegal for CB use,

No question of "might be illegal" they ARE.

>people will keep buying them. It's better to make an informed
>choice even if what you are doing is against the law.
>It's better for people to have a real idea of why these things might
>be illegal rather than being told "it's because they're illegal,
>that's why you can't use them".

You've lost me on that one.... The plain and simple reason they are
illegal for use by UK cb, is the specification for UK cb is that the
equipment will produce a maximum of 4W

CB in the UK (and as it happens in the US) was intended from the
outset to be a short-range communications service. Just because some
individuals choose to attempt to use it for long-range - so called
DXing" - is not relevant.

>All tests should be done independently of any government agency.

RUBBISH!

At the moment, tests are done by the manufacturers, who then certify
that their equipment meets the specification set out by the regulatory
authority. At any time the regulatory authority, can request that
additional examples of the product are retested - independantly or by
themselves.

You are surely not suggesting that all tests should be left totally in
the hands of the manufacturers? If so, where would be the check that
any particular manufacturer was complying with the specification?
Perhaps you think we should just take his word!

So who else would you consider trustworthy enough to carry out the
tests?

Maybe a radio magazine.... After all they are totally independant
and no commercial pressure could be brought to bear on them by some
manufacturer implying that he might stop buying advertisements, unless
his product got a favourable review. If you believe that, you'll
believe anything.

Old Nick.

Axle Jack

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Feb 11, 2002, 5:57:16 PM2/11/02
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> You might think of yourself as such. I understand that many Aussies
> think of themselves like that (You've adapted well to the country).

I was taking the piss. Aussies in general are not like that at all. But they
think the English (they usually forget about the other countries making up
the UK) are a bunch officious, authority obsessed, cowardly wankers.
Its amazing how ignorance and hatred is enjoyed by so many over such a wide
area. Aren't humans wonderful.
Keep up the good work.


luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 11, 2002, 6:35:17 PM2/11/02
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:57:16 +1000, "Axle Jack"
<axle...@REMOVE-TO-REPLYdingoblue.net.au> wrote:

>> You might think of yourself as such. I understand that many Aussies
>> think of themselves like that (You've adapted well to the country).
>
>I was taking the piss.

So was I, but I've had more practice. :o)

> Aussies in general are not like that at all.

When I was working in London, I lived in the Earls Court area - which
is like Sydney, without the harbour. One of the many things I found
out about the Aussies, is just how alike we are.

>But they
>think the English (they usually forget about the other countries making up
>the UK)

What! You mean there are other countries making up the UK? Are you
sure you're not just thinking of those little county-like places,
dotted around the edge? ;-)

>are a bunch officious, authority obsessed, cowardly wankers.

You mean to say we're NOT!!! SHOCK HORROR

>Its amazing how ignorance and hatred is enjoyed by so many over such a wide
>area. Aren't humans wonderful.

Not being one.... I really wouldn't know.

>Keep up the good work.

Deputies badge in the post.

Nick.

Jon Harris

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Feb 12, 2002, 4:15:19 AM2/12/02
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That's the trouble with wifes, they want curtains, carpet, new
windows, and all that nonsense. I'd be happy with open windows, bare
carpets, and draft windows if i could get a new bike and a TS-570DG,
but then I'm not the boss :-((

Cheers,

Jon.

the_wire...@hotmail.com

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Feb 12, 2002, 6:26:30 AM2/12/02
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luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote in message news:<3c67ec78...@news.btinternet.com>...

> So who else would you consider trustworthy enough to carry out the
> tests?
>
> Maybe a radio magazine.... After all they are totally independant
> and no commercial pressure could be brought to bear on them by some
> manufacturer implying that he might stop buying advertisements, unless
> his product got a favourable review. If you believe that, you'll
> believe anything.
>
> Old Nick.

OK then the RA can put the results on their web site.
Or maybe someone not connected with any manufacturer would like to
test them and put the results here on uk.rec.radio.cb.

Brainbuster

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:05:47 AM2/14/02
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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
news:3c6854db...@news.btinternet.com...

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:57:16 +1000, "Axle Jack"
> <axle...@REMOVE-TO-REPLYdingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>
> >But they
> >think the English (they usually forget about the other countries making up
> >the UK)
>
> What! You mean there are other countries making up the UK? Are you
> sure you're not just thinking of those little county-like places,
> dotted around the edge? ;-)
===

How about Wales, Scotland, and N. Ireland for starters.
English suggests from England... not the other countries that make
up the UK.

So yes, countries.


Peter
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luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Feb 14, 2002, 7:58:38 AM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:05:47 -0000, "Brainbuster" <br...@buster.com>
wrote:

><luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>news:3c6854db...@news.btinternet.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:57:16 +1000, "Axle Jack"
>> <axle...@REMOVE-TO-REPLYdingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >But they
>> >think the English (they usually forget about the other countries making up
>> >the UK)
>>
>> What! You mean there are other countries making up the UK? Are you
>> sure you're not just thinking of those little county-like places,
>> dotted around the edge? ;-)

>How about Wales, Scotland, and N. Ireland for starters.
>English suggests from England... not the other countries that make
>up the UK.

>So yes, countries.


So where were you when they were explaining humour at your school?
Or did you go to Roedean?

Note the little 'smiley' at the end of my previous posting.

Nick.

p.s. Strictly speaking the acronym UK means the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The United Kingdom bit refers to the England and Scotland parts (two
Kingdoms united). Northern Ireland is the noisey bit where they
shout and shoot a lot - though not always in that order.
Wales. Doesn't get a mention. Neither does The Isle of Man or The
Channel Islands. So we can safely ignore all of them.... Can't we?
;-)

Jon Harris

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Feb 15, 2002, 7:43:02 AM2/15/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:58:38 +0000 (UTC), luc...@eternal-flames.gov
wrote:

>So where were you when they were explaining humour at your school?
>Or did you go to Roedean?

Just up the road from me, but i never went there...;-)

JH

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