Pin the man on the willy
Susan Hassett
the current issue of 'Best', so I bought the magazine.
Along with "My secret lover was my brother" and "Eat yourself slim", the
article is mentioned on the front cover as "Help! My mum and dad have
become nudists".
The article concentrates on the difference of opinion between Micaela and
her son - she's naturist, he thinks it's disgusting. Micaela gives her
point of view first. She states how naturism isn't about sex, it's all
about freedom and acceptance. Nobody cares if you've put on weight or got
cellulite etc etc, all the usual stuff. She tells how she became a naturist
and eventually joined Broadlands. There she and her husband made lots of
friends, enjoyed the outdoor life, coffee mornings, barbecues. It all
sounds very normal and boring, bog-standard everyday life doesn't it?
Obviously she and/or the reporter thought the same because next a party is
mentioned where they played (titter chortle) 'pin the willy on the man' -
and suddenly we're into the realms of Ann Summers parties.
I cringed. Yes, I know this game gets played at club parties - but why did
she have to mention it? It takes naturism down into the "nudge nudge, wink
wink, Carry On" area. The average Best reader, on seeing the article, is
probably thinking "She said naturism wasn't about sex, yet here they are
playing with willies! Who's she kidding?".
CCBN didn't get a mention, but perhaps that's for the 'Best'.
Susan
Stephen Doerr
news:amhsmm$mht$1...@knossos.btinternet.com:
> Obviously she and/or the reporter thought the same because
> next a party is mentioned where they played (titter
> chortle) 'pin the willy on the man' - and suddenly we're
> into the realms of Ann Summers parties.
>
> I cringed. Yes, I know this game gets played at club
> parties
It's a new one on me. Perhaps I should suggest it for a
forthcoming Naturist Foundation social. Is there a more advanced
form called 'pin the clitoris on the woman'? That could be
embarrassing even without blindfolds!
--
Steve
David C
<susan_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Obviously she and/or the reporter thought the same because next a party is
>mentioned where they played (titter chortle) 'pin the willy on the man' -
>and suddenly we're into the realms of Ann Summers parties.
>
What, please, is "pin the willy on the man" apart from painful?
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J.L.E
"David C" <da...@see.signature.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:37:28 +0000 (UTC), "Susan Hassett"
> <susan_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Obviously she and/or the reporter thought the same because next a
party is
> >mentioned where they played (titter chortle) 'pin the willy on the
man' -
> >and suddenly we're into the realms of Ann Summers parties.
> >
> What, please, is "pin the willy on the man" apart from painful?
>
<assuming you're question was serious..... >
I would think an adult version of the kids game 'Pin the tail on the
donkey' !
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David C
<sca...@mapson.madasafish.com> wrote:
>
>"David C" <da...@see.signature.uk> wrote in message
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>> What, please, is "pin the willy on the man" apart from painful?
>>
>
><assuming you're question was serious..... >
>
>I would think an adult version of the kids game 'Pin the tail on the
>donkey' !
Yes, the question was serious. I see what you mean, but it seems to be
in rather poor taste. Can anyone else confirm your suppositions?
AndyC
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:57:37 +0100, "J.L.E"
> <sca...@mapson.madasafish.com> wrote:
> >
> >I would think an adult version of the kids game 'Pin the tail on the
> >donkey' !
>
> Yes, the question was serious. I see what you mean, but it seems to be
> in rather poor taste. Can anyone else confirm your suppositions?
It is only an "adult" game if you consider a mans penis to be any ruder than
any other part of the body and therefore not to be seen by, or mentioned by
children.
Why poor taste? What's the difference between one part of the anatomy to
another (naturisticly speaking). It seems like a perfectly acceptable
variation of "pin the tail on the donkey".
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J.L.E
"AndyC" <an...@spambin.skyworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Try telling that to Social workers etc....
I can just see the reaction of the 'do gooders' on seeing that little
Sally has pined the part of the anatomy in question to a certain part
of the face or posterior !
David C
<an...@spambin.skyworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"David C" <da...@see.signature.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:57:37 +0100, "J.L.E"
>> <sca...@mapson.madasafish.com> wrote:
>>>I would think an adult version of the kids game 'Pin the tail
>>>on the donkey' !
>>Yes, the question was serious. I see what you mean, but it
>>seems to be in rather poor taste. Can anyone else confirm your
>>suppositions?
>It is only an "adult" game if you consider a mans penis to be
>any ruder than any other part of the body and therefore not to
>be seen by, or mentioned by children.
I didn't say anything about it being rude. Poor taste doesn't
necessarily imply rude.
>Why poor taste? What's the difference between one part of the
>anatomy to another (naturisticly speaking). It seems like a
>perfectly acceptable variation of "pin the tail on the donkey".
Not all parts of the body are equivalent. If we were introduced we might
shake hands, but we would not shake each other's penises I hope!
I guess I feel that the game is being deliberately provocative and shows
a lack of respect for that part of the body. Susan's post at the start
of this thread said:
>Obviously she and/or the reporter thought the same because next
>a party is mentioned where they played (titter chortle) 'pin
>the willy on the man' - and suddenly we're into the realms of
>Ann Summers parties.
That's not the sort of reaction we want from the textile masses. We want
to demonstrate that we're not embarrassed about any part of our bodies,
but pinning the willy on the man isn't, IMO, a good way to go about it.
Susan Hassett
> Yes, the question was serious. I see what you mean, but it seems to be
> in rather poor taste. Can anyone else confirm your suppositions?
>
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> | Central Somerset, UK. |
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Yes, that's the one. I've seen it played at a club and heard that it's
played at Ann Summers parties. I can't definitely confirm the latter
because I haven't been to one for years - to my mind it's a bit like going
to Tupperware parties, you only need so many plastic boxes, then you don't
bother going any more!
Susan
SteveG
"J.L.E" <sca...@mapson.madasafish.com> wrote in message
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> Try telling that to Social workers etc....
> I can just see the reaction of the 'do gooders' on seeing that little
> Sally has pined the part of the anatomy in question to a certain part
> of the face or posterior !
I think it has been said before it would be an adult game although in poor
taste, so little Sally would not get to play.
Surely naturists can think up better ways to pass the time.
Do those of you who play use a real man and a long pin?
SteveG
J.L.E
"SteveG" <Ste...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well if you must snip the context......
Did you not read AndyC's post ?
AndyC
> I can just see the reaction of the 'do gooders' on seeing that little
> Sally has pined the part of the anatomy in question to a certain part
> of the face or posterior !
It seems that you have the ability to view the most innocent of activities
with sexual overtones.
marc
> Not all parts of the body are equivalent. If we were introduced we might
> shake hands, but we would not shake each other's penises I hope!
I remember from somewhere that some tribe does. The ultimate in trust!
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David C
<susan_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"David C" <da...@see.signature.uk> wrote in message
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>
>>Yes, the question was serious. I see what you mean, but it
>>seems to be in rather poor taste. Can anyone else confirm your
>>suppositions?
>
>Yes, that's the one. I've seen it played at a club and heard
>that it's played at Ann Summers parties. I can't definitely
>confirm the latter because I haven't been to one for years - to
>my mind it's a bit like going to Tupperware parties, you only
>need so many plastic boxes, then you don't bother going any
>more!
But plastic boxes wear out with frequent use, surely? ;-)
J.L.E
>
> "J.L.E" <sca...@mapson.madasafish.com> wrote in message
> news:uos43a3...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > Try telling that to Social workers etc....
> > I can just see the reaction of the 'do gooders' on seeing that
little
> > Sally has pined the part of the anatomy in question to a certain
part
> > of the face or posterior !
>
> It seems that you have the ability to view the most innocent of
activities
> with sexual overtones.
>
No, society does, they equate nudity and certain parts of the body as
nothing but sexual - hence the public decency laws and suggestions
such as Rec 54 etc. There are even grandfathers who now refuse to bath
(or even be in or near the bathroom) their young grandchildren due to
the possibility of their actions being viewed as possible evidence of
sex abuse if the grandchild happens to mention being in the bathroom
with grand-dad etc.
There are male teachers who will not work in infant & junior schools,
and if they do they will not be in the room alone with children, the
scouting movement has had to take precautions to protect there
'leaders' as has others - even the CCBN....
I really do think you should try living in the world everyone else
does Andy, rather than your own...
AndyC
There are even grandfathers who now refuse to bath
> (or even be in or near the bathroom) their young grandchildren due to
> the possibility of their actions being viewed as possible evidence of
> sex abuse if the grandchild happens to mention being in the bathroom
> with grand-dad etc.
>
> There are male teachers who will not work in infant & junior schools,
> and if they do they will not be in the room alone with children, the
> scouting movement has had to take precautions to protect there
> 'leaders' as has others - even the CCBN....
>
>
> I really do think you should try living in the world everyone else
> does Andy, rather than your own...
From the sound of it, I really don't want to live in *your* world
thank-you-very-much.
J.L.E
It may come as a shock to you Andy but - you are, that is, unless
you're posting from Mars.....
AndyC
>
> It may come as a shock to you Andy but - you are, that is, unless
> you're posting from Mars.....
To just expand a little on this, those scenarios that you describe about
grandparents not washing their children and teachers too afraid to work with
kids are all part of the psyche of a society that finds it difficult to
accept the naturist way of life. These people would perhaps consider images
of children without clothing as "child pornography", and an adult being
naked in the presence of children as immoral - perhaps even a form of abuse.
I do not deny that there are those in this world that support these ideals
but I really have no desire to live in *their* world. Neither would any
self-respecting naturist.
J.L.E
"Anthony Evans" <a...@poggo.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
Just as you are Ant' - just as you are....
J.L.E
Well sad to say, that is what has happened to British society over the
last 20 years or so and, unless you move to a country that hasn't
become so paranoid, you and every naturist is subject to that
paranoia. :~(
So Andy, you seem to have three choices if you don't want to have your
life influenced by the British 'psyche' - either shoot yourself, move
abroad or build a spacecraft and indeed go to Mars !
Now, how much was that apartment at Costa Nature ?....
Michael Berridge
AndyC wrote in message ...
.....
>
>To just expand a little on this, those scenarios that you describe
about
>grandparents not washing their children and teachers too afraid to work
with
>kids are all part of the psyche of a society that finds it difficult to
>accept the naturist way of life. These people would perhaps consider
images
>of children without clothing as "child pornography", and an adult being
>naked in the presence of children as immoral - perhaps even a form of
abuse.
>
>I do not deny that there are those in this world that support these
ideals
>but I really have no desire to live in *their* world. Neither would any
>self-respecting naturist.
>--
to the fact that his ex wife, and it was an acrimonious split, ahs
already made accusations of his activities with their daughter, to the
extent that he is worried about even giving her a bath when he has her
to stay. (the girl is about 5 now). All the accusations against him have
been dismissed by the authorities, but he just is not prepared to give
her any more ammunition.
Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk
AndyC
>
> Well sad to say, that is what has happened to British society over the
> last 20 years or so and, unless you move to a country that hasn't
> become so paranoid, you and every naturist is subject to that
> paranoia.
Subject to it perhaps, but not supporting it or being part of it but simply
refusing to be intimidated by it.
> So Andy, you seem to have three choices if you don't want to have your
> life influenced by the British 'psyche' - either shoot yourself, move
> abroad or build a spacecraft and indeed go to Mars !
There is the fourth option which is to remain indifferent to the idiocracy.
It is not compulsory to follow the current trend.
As GBS said "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
> Now, how much was that apartment at Costa Nature ?....
There's too much work to be done here to run off just yet.
J.L.E
>
<snip>
>
> As GBS said "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore
> all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
>
One could deduce from that, Andy, that you are one of those
'unreasonable' men, seeing that you are always trying to get 'Jo
Public' to accept what they might not want to accept !.. :~)
AndyC
>
> One could deduce from that, Andy, that you are one of those
> 'unreasonable' men, seeing that you are always trying to get 'Jo
> Public' to accept what they might not want to accept !.. :~)
It's more important (for me anyway) to live life following what I believe
in, as opposed to clinging to transient trends.
I will therefore continue to be "unreasonable" by questioning the virtues of
commonly held beliefs and by questioning whether those beliefs are in fact
commonly held.
Tim Forcer
>
> ...
>
> I will therefore continue to be "unreasonable" by
> questioning the virtues of commonly held beliefs
> and by questioning whether those beliefs are in fact
> commonly held.
Any chance of some answers to this continued questionning?
Preferably presented with a suitably detailed analysis of the
answers broken down by sex, age, etc, and demonstrating that the
answers came from a sufficiently large number of respondents who
were broadly representative of the public?
--
Tim Forcer t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
The University of Southampton, UK
The University is not responsible for my opinions
AndyC
"Tim Forcer" <t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Any chance of some answers to this continued questionning?
Questioning is an ongoing process, as soon as you have the answers the
questioning stops.
> Preferably presented with a suitably detailed analysis of the
> answers broken down by sex, age, etc, and demonstrating that the
> answers came from a sufficiently large number of respondents who
> were broadly representative of the public?
This was what the opinion poll was about. Surprise was felt by the
naturists, many of whom were astounded by the results.
Personal experience tells a similar tale, but opinion poll results help to
convince those that think they know all the answers.
Tim Forcer
>
> Tim Forcer wrote:
>>
>> Any chance of some answers to this continued
>> questionning?
>
> Questioning is an ongoing process, as soon as
> you have the answers the questioning stops.
Or change the questions, or move on to supplementaries.
>> Preferably presented with a suitably detailed
>> analysis of the answers broken down by sex,
>> age, etc, and demonstrating that the
>> answers came from a sufficiently large number
>> of respondents who were broadly representative
>> of the public?
>
> This was what the opinion poll was about. Surprise
> was felt by the naturists, many of whom were
> astounded by the results.
Errm, which naturists expressed surprise?
> Personal experience tells a similar tale, but
> opinion poll results help to convince those that
> think they know all the answers.
Since the NOP results showed a substantial majority opposed to
legal nudity in public parks, perhaps AndyC will now be
convinced that this is the answer to the question on what most
people think about nudity in public parks?
AndyC
>
> Since the NOP results showed a substantial majority opposed to
> legal nudity in public parks, perhaps AndyC will now be
> convinced that this is the answer to the question on what most
> people think about nudity in public parks?
Most people (I would imagine) have never encountered nudity in public parks
(apart from very young children in paddling pools). Human nature as it is,
makes it difficult for us to accept what we are not accustomed to. That
being the case, it is not surprising that the results of the poll show that
nudity in parks is not accepted by the majority.
However, when faced with a real life situation, I wonder how many of those
who might have opposed it in a poll would shift toward acceptence after
witnessing it and having time to consider the reasons for their initial
fears and prejudice. There are those that will argue the opposite but unless
we actually get out there and do it we will never know for certain.
Unfortunately acceptence and legal protection will only come as a result the
public seeing that naturism is harmless. For the meanwhile, the poll results
show that we need to exercise caution while naked in a public park. I guess
now we can debate this until about April next year when it might be warm
enough to start testing the public reaction again.
AndyC
> AndyC wrote:
Surprise
> > was felt by the naturists, many of whom were
> > astounded by the results.
>
> Errm, which naturists expressed surprise?
The ones that feel a need for secrecy.
Those that are open about their naturism were obviously more aware of the
level of acceptance that exists anyway and therefore not surprised.
SteveG
>
> "Tim Forcer" <t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:3D91D83E...@ecs.soton.ac.uk...
> > AndyC wrote:
> Those that are open about their naturism were obviously more aware of the
> level of acceptance that exists anyway and therefore not surprised.
This could be you Andy, a friend sent me an email about this case.
A painter and decorator has been jailed in Edinburgh today on two indecency
charges strippng of in two Edinburgh parks. The sheriff said he had a
previous record for such offences and had no alternative except to send him
to jail for 60 days.
> Andy
J.L.E
>
<snip>
>
> Unfortunately acceptence and legal protection will only come as a
result the
> public seeing that naturism is harmless. For the meanwhile, the poll
results
> show that we need to exercise caution while naked in a public park.
I guess
> now we can debate this until about April next year when it might be
warm
> enough to start testing the public reaction again.
> --
Some drivers have tried that approach over speed limits (or any number
of other driving laws), it doesn't change a dammed thing. If it does,
it normally changes things the wrong way (i.e. speed limits are
dropping rather than rising). Not to mention those caught ending up
before the courts...
Stephen Doerr
@ecs.soton.ac.uk:
> AndyC wrote:
>> This was what the opinion poll was about. Surprise
>> was felt by the naturists, many of whom were
>> astounded by the results.
> Errm, which naturists expressed surprise?
I'm happy to admit that I was surprised by some of the results
of the opinion poll.
--
Steve
Tim Forcer
>
> Tim Forcer wrote:
>>
>> majority opposed to legal nudity in public
>> parks, perhaps AndyC will now be convinced
>> that this is the answer to the question on
>> what most people think about nudity in public
>> parks?
>
> Most people (I would imagine) have never
> encountered nudity in public parks (apart
> from very young children in paddling pools).
> Human nature