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mynews

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:54:50 AM3/6/08
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Hi I'm a shy 17 year old closet teen nudist, I am looking for older nudists
(30+) singles and couples to help me come out of the closet and go nude. I
go nude at home when ever possible. I live in the South East and I have a
nudist beach very close to me. But I have ever had the confidence to use the
beach.

I am looking for someone I can go nude with, not only nudist beaches but
safe outdoor locations anywhere. Of course weather permitting.

If there is anyone out there please get in touch and lets chat and see where
it goes.

Please remove ns from my email before replying.

jen...@nsgooglemail.com

Regards

Jenny.


Derek Turner

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Mar 6, 2008, 9:36:19 AM3/6/08
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mynews wrote:
> Hi I'm a shy 17 year old closet teen nudist, I am looking for older nudists
> (30+) singles and couples to help me come out of the closet and go nude. I
> go nude at home when ever possible. I live in the South East and I have a
> nudist beach very close to me. But I have ever had the confidence to use the
> beach.
>
>
>
> I am looking for someone I can go nude with, not only nudist beaches but
> safe outdoor locations anywhere. Of course weather permitting.
>
>
>
> If there is anyone out there please get in touch and lets chat and see where
> it goes.
>

<in the vanishingly-small likelihood that this is genuine>

Many people would be happy to help but as you are legally a child there
are child-protection issues. Your parents/guardians would need to make
an informed choice and give permission.

peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 6, 2008, 10:35:40 AM3/6/08
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> an informed choice and give permission.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The email address doesn't even work (so I'm told!). ; )

Alex Heney

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:32:46 PM3/6/08
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Of course it doesn't.

The "ns" after the @ is (obviously to me) for "nospam" and should be
removed.

And if it *is* genuine, then with a 17 year old, there are only really
any child protection issues if photography is involved, or if the
other person is in a "position of trust" with respect to the girl.

It still seems unlikely to be genuine, on the face of it. But not
impossible by any means.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

FREECOPSIRIT

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:29:57 AM3/7/08
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Hi Jenny

I strongly suspect that your posting is a wind up so I won't waste
much time responding. If you are genuine in what you say you be
inviting all sorts of "predator" replies rather than genuine naturist
attention. Your have probably read the comments about child
protection which though not strictly accurate should be noted. My
adivce to you if you are seriously interested in naturism is to
contact "YBN" (Your British Naturists) though British Naturism where
you will be absolutely safe.

Take care and talk to your parents, if they are or have been naturists
they will understand and help you. If not be patient and wait until
you are bit older.

Freecospirit.

Derek Turner

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Mar 7, 2008, 8:10:25 AM3/7/08
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Alex Heney wrote:

>
> And if it *is* genuine, then with a 17 year old, there are only really
> any child protection issues if photography is involved, or if the
> other person is in a "position of trust" with respect to the girl.

Yes, I was thinking in terms of someone offering a lift to a landed
club. That club would surely have guidelines? by signing her in you'd be
in a position of trust? I'm not sure. When I was parish priest I /never/
gave lifts to under-18s without another vetted adult (female) also in
the car. We all had enhanced CRB checks. Very inconvenient at times but
probably necessary in today's climate. I suppose travelling separately
to meet at a public beach would be just about OK, but I wouldn't risk it
without meeting the parents/guardians first.

:Jerry:

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Mar 7, 2008, 8:45:01 AM3/7/08
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"Derek Turner" <frd...@cesmail.net> wrote in message
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GG this thread has gone from the saline or the ridicules...

Talk about over reacting, we are talking about a *17* year old person
here, someone who can legally go out to work and even leave home - in
fact did the OP even mention her parental home, she could even be at
college or Uni' - stop talking about her as if she was a seven year
old child! As Alex said, the only restriction would be in a
photographic situation and even then the law (I suspect) has been
worded not so much to stop a 17 year old from being photographed but
to prevent someone who *looks* like a 17 year old being photographed
or otherwise abused.

peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 11:12:59 AM3/7/08
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On 7 Mar, 13:45, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> "Derek Turner" <frde...@cesmail.net> wrote in message
> or otherwise abused.- Hide quoted text -

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And it's NOT illegal to photograph someone naked (at ANY age) in the
UK. It's illegal to make images of a SEXUAL nature (regardless of
whether they're naed or not). The difficult thing of course is
defining what is sexual.

Alex Heney

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Mar 7, 2008, 5:02:31 PM3/7/08
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:10:25 +0000, Derek Turner <frd...@cesmail.net>
wrote:

>Alex Heney wrote:
>
>>
>> And if it *is* genuine, then with a 17 year old, there are only really
>> any child protection issues if photography is involved, or if the
>> other person is in a "position of trust" with respect to the girl.
>
>Yes, I was thinking in terms of someone offering a lift to a landed
>club. That club would surely have guidelines? by signing her in you'd be
>in a position of trust?

No.

What is meant by a "position of trust" is defined within the
legislation, and is actually quite restricted.

It is things like teachers, care home staff, social workers, religious
authority figures and the like.

>I'm not sure. When I was parish priest I /never/
>gave lifts to under-18s without another vetted adult (female) also in
>the car.

As the parish priest, you may well have been considered to be in a
"position of trust", although even then only if you had regular
contact with the child.


--
Alex Heney, Global Villager

Find your aim in life, before you run out of ammunition

David Looser

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Mar 7, 2008, 5:21:56 PM3/7/08
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"Alex Heney" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:jne3t3hekv1jpm4uk...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:10:25 +0000, Derek Turner <frd...@cesmail.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Alex Heney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And if it *is* genuine, then with a 17 year old, there are only really
>>> any child protection issues if photography is involved, or if the
>>> other person is in a "position of trust" with respect to the girl.
>>
>>Yes, I was thinking in terms of someone offering a lift to a landed
>>club. That club would surely have guidelines? by signing her in you'd be
>>in a position of trust?
>
> No.
>
> What is meant by a "position of trust" is defined within the
> legislation, and is actually quite restricted.
>
> It is things like teachers, care home staff, social workers, religious
> authority figures and the like.
>

It's always seemed to me that the law is very confused about 16 and 17
year-olds. On one hand they are allowed to leave the parental home and live
with whoever they like, even get married (albeit with parental consent in
England & Wales) and to consent to a sexual relationship as an adult. On the
other they are still regarded as children for the proposes of "child
protection" legislation.

David.


Alex Heney

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Mar 8, 2008, 6:58:44 PM3/8/08
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Only where photography is involved, or the other person is in a
"position of trust".

And even the photography issue has exceptions where the photographs
are only taken and possessed by somebody with whom they are in a
"stable family relationship".

But yes, the law is very confused on the issue.


--
Alex Heney, Global Villager

URA Redneck if you think cow tipping should be an Olympic sport

rami...@googlemail.com

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Mar 11, 2008, 11:08:59 AM3/11/08
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On 6 Mar, 10:54, "mynews" <jen...@nsgooglemail.com> wrote:

Just look at all the responses to this wind-up. Mention the word
female and all the dirty mac brigade are there. Read all the
responsible remarks and then ask yourself why they bothered to make
them in the first place.
Responsible naturists..no you are not..just sex seekers, end of.

FREECOPSIRIT

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Mar 11, 2008, 1:20:42 PM3/11/08
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On 11 Mar, 15:08, "ramith...@googlemail.com"
> Responsible naturists..no you are not..just sex seekers, end of.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

ramithome

As some would say you are a troll of the most obnoxious kind -
obviously you haven't a clue what nauturism is about. Yes the
original posting may have been a wind up - on the otherhand it may
well be quite genuine. Our replies collectively tried point the young
lady in safe direction. We are well aware that predators such your no
good self lurk around message boards like this one. Go crawl under
your stone and die.

:Jerry:

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Mar 11, 2008, 1:53:04 PM3/11/08
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<rami...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

>
> Just look at all the responses to this wind-up. Mention the word
> female and all the dirty mac brigade are there. Read all the
> responsible remarks and then ask yourself why they bothered to make
> them in the first place.
> Responsible naturists..no you are not..just sex seekers, end of.

No, that is what you are, why else would you infest a naturist group
when you obviously don't hold a single naturist ideal in those tiny
little brain cells of yours, but then as your brain has spent most of
it's adult life making sperm it's no surprise that you behave like a
cretin on speed and talk a load of bollocks!


A Lurker

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Mar 12, 2008, 5:34:21 PM3/12/08
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Hey, why don't you just say what you mean :Jerry: !

(Although I do agree with the sentiment of his post, that has to be the
most blatant attack from :Jerry: for a while) ;)

Dario Western

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:03:49 AM3/13/08
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Hi Jenny,

My advice is simple: talk to your parents or an older friend about this and
get them to accompany you to the beach. I am somewhat perplexed as to why
you want to be around older nudists instead of hanging out with people your
own age?

I would like to recommend these two sites for you to join if you want to
communicate with naturists your age:

http://www.ynai.com (Australia based, but most of its users are from the UK)
http://www.freebodyzone.com/board (a UK based naturist site primarily for
young adults)

Good luck with the search.


Dario Western

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peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 14, 2008, 6:18:46 AM3/14/08
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On 13 Mar, 05:03, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
wrote:

 I am somewhat perplexed as to why
> you want to be around older nudists instead of hanging out with people your
> own age?

Don't discourage her, ask her to bring along some friends
instead! ; )


FREECOPSIRIT

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Mar 14, 2008, 10:46:23 AM3/14/08
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Both Peter and Dario make valid points. However, I feel that Jenny
would be better joining a genuine young naturist group. She says that
she goes nude at home whenever that is possible that may be just on
her own or when friends/family are about, probably on her own. It is
hard for would be naturists to find others of their friends willing
to join in and going to a naturist beach on your own is not sensible.
As most "nude" beaches are clothing optional one suggestion would be
to go along with a few of her friends and then for her to suggest they
strip off for a dare; a lot of naturists started that way and then
they found that they really enjoyed it.

To look for older 30+ naturists the way that Jenny appears to
describe is I think inviting the wrong sort of attention. As has
been said this thread may well be a wind up if it is I hope that Jenny
has at least read our responses and just may be she may become a
naturist in due course. I didn't try naturism until I was turned 40
and my one regret was that I did not try it when I was much younger;
Jenny if you are reading this thread go for it you won't regret it.

Freecospirit

Derek Turner

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Mar 19, 2008, 6:06:00 PM3/19/08
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David Looser wrote:
On one hand they are allowed to leave the parental home and live
> with whoever they like, even get married (albeit with parental consent in
> England & Wales)

That's an interesting one. Parental consent is /not/ required, merely an
absence of parental objection. The law says that the vicar must call the
banns at the main service on three Sundays within three months of the
wedding. If no-one objects then (s)he can go ahead and marry them so
long as they are both 16 or over and free to marry. If the parent(s)
happen not to be in church on any of those three Sundays and fail to
object at the time then they have no recourse in law (save, perhaps,
making the child a ward of court? - not sure about that). Interestingly
they may /not/ object during the wedding service itself (on the grounds
of minority) they have missed their chance. As far as the law is
concerned it's their own fault for not going to church! Never happened
to me but the Diocesan Registrar (legal advisor to the Diocese) set out
the position very clearly to us.

Mackinaw

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Mar 22, 2008, 9:49:48 AM3/22/08
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On Mar 6, 10:54 am, "mynews" <jen...@nsgooglemail.com> wrote:
> Hi I'm a shy 17 year old closet teen nudist, I am looking for older nudists
> (30+) singles and couples to help me come out of the closet and go nude.


The fact that this particular OP has never reappeared says much about
the abuse of groups like this by those whose absence of brain cells is
of greater significance than any consideration of absence of
clothes. . .

:Jerry:

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:21:40 PM3/22/08
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"Mackinaw" <mail...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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<quote>


The fact that this particular OP has never reappeared says much about
the abuse of groups like this by those whose absence of brain cells is
of greater significance than any consideration of absence of
clothes. . .

</quote>

Or just proves that these people were correct when suggesting that it
was nothing more than a troll...


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