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Vassaliki Naturist Club

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Feb 23, 2008, 12:10:29 PM2/23/08
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Photography Master Class Week at Vassaliki Naturist Club
Sunday 5th October Sunday 12th October

Our special interest weeks offer our guests new and exciting extra
activities with like minded guests.

Ever wondered what the functions on your digital camera did? Or why
you can't capture that perfect moment? This week is specially
arranged for the budding photographer and includes instruction and
advice from Charlie Simonds.

The aim of the course is to help those attending improve their
photographic skills to enable them to produce photographs which
reflect the naturist lifestyle, and which are worthy of publication.
The presentations include sessions on improving your photography, the
models perspective, self criticism, contributing to magazines and
digital photography.

There will also be ample opportunity to practise your photographic
skills using the photogenic surroundings of the beautiful island of
Kefalonia, where you will be given guidance on composing the perfect
holiday shot.

The best picture of the week that captures the essence of naturism in
Kefalonia will be printed in H&E magazine and used on our next
brochure.

The upgrade includes the following:
• Charlie Simonds 3 day Master Class
• Life model
• Transfer from resort to various photo shoot sites
• Breakfast every morning during your stay
• BBQ meal one evening during your stay
• Great company with like minded naturist photographers

This special package is only available if the required number of 6
people attends.
We will take bookings with a 25% deposit. If the numbers are not
reached you will have the opportunity to keep your room booking at the
standard rates or take the deposit refund.

This upgrade does not include flights, accommodation, food and drink
during your stay.
Prices from £372 per person per week (includes accommodation based on
4 sharing family room, transfers to and from airport and your
photographic upgrades)

Prices from £474.75 per person per week (includes accommodation based
on 2 sharing double room, transfers to and from airport and your
photographic upgrades)

For more infomation visit www.vasnat.com

David & Jean

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:03:36 AM2/24/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:10:29 -0800 (PST), Vassaliki Naturist Club
<vigla...@uk2.net> wrote:

>Photography Master Class Week at Vassaliki Naturist Club
>Sunday 5th October Sunday 12th October

Whilst I am seriously contemplating a visit to Vassaliki in the near
future, I feel compelled to advise you that you will win few friends
by posting ads on usenet. In fact, you're risking the wrath of many
usenet regulars who despise spammers. I therefore politely suggest
that you desist. Otherwise, you may lose more business than you
generate...

David

mikeinthe...@yahoo.co.uk

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Feb 24, 2008, 5:11:25 AM2/24/08
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On 24 Feb, 07:03, David & Jean <newdbieNOJUN...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:10:29 -0800 (PST), Vassaliki Naturist Club
>
> <viglanat...@uk2.net> wrote:
> >Photography Master Class Week at Vassaliki Naturist Club
> >Sunday 5th October  Sunday 12th October
>
> Whilst I am seriously contemplating a visit to Vassaliki in the near
> future, I feel compelled to advise you that you will win few friends
> by posting ads on usenet. In fact, you're risking the wrath of many
> usenet regulars who despise spammers. I therefore politely suggest
> that you desist. Otherwise, you may lose more business than you
> generate...
>
> David

According to the 'uk rec naturist' charter:

"Advertising permitted from any Naturist clubs or
associations. Nothing Else".

Vassaliki Naturist Club would therefore appear to be operating
completely within the charter.

:Jerry:

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Feb 24, 2008, 5:36:34 AM2/24/08
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"David & Jean" <newdbie...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If you read the groups Charter the advert is technically 'on-topic',
but my main complaint is their using phrases like "essence of
naturism" and "includes instruction and advice from Charlie Simonds" -
IMO Mr Simonds work is far from the essence of naturism, in fact it's
closer to the essence of the soft porn mag, even though his work (both
still and video) is technically superb you will learn the art of
photographing models but you certainly won't be capturing the essence
of naturism...


John Gwalter

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Feb 24, 2008, 6:40:45 AM2/24/08
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":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
news:dsidnQCnocNa1Vza...@bt.com...
Looks like we're back on the "what is your definition of naturism" trek.

--

JOhn

My indecision is final.

David & Jean

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Feb 24, 2008, 6:55:25 AM2/24/08
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:11:25 -0800 (PST),
mikeinthe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>On 24 Feb, 07:03, David & Jean <newdbieNOJUN...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:10:29 -0800 (PST), Vassaliki Naturist Club
>>
>> <viglanat...@uk2.net> wrote:
>> >Photography Master Class Week at Vassaliki Naturist Club
>> >Sunday 5th October  Sunday 12th October
>>
>> Whilst I am seriously contemplating a visit to Vassaliki in the near
>> future, I feel compelled to advise you that you will win few friends
>> by posting ads on usenet. In fact, you're risking the wrath of many
>> usenet regulars who despise spammers. I therefore politely suggest
>> that you desist. Otherwise, you may lose more business than you
>> generate...
>>

>According to the 'uk rec naturist' charter:
>
>"Advertising permitted from any Naturist clubs or
>associations. Nothing Else".
>
>Vassaliki Naturist Club would therefore appear to be operating
>completely within the charter.

OK, I stand corrected - it's allowed within the charter. And at least
urn is not suffering the plague of "cheap Nike" ads my other regular
ng is being bombarded with at present. However, I still think that
some could be put off Vassaliki were these ads to become too frequent.
And I was very polite about pointing this out!

David

:Jerry:

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Feb 24, 2008, 8:09:00 AM2/24/08
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"John Gwalter" <ern...@stoppage.gwalter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:62d391F...@mid.individual.net...

> ":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:dsidnQCnocNa1Vza...@bt.com...
>>
<snip>

>> my main complaint is their using phrases like "essence of naturism"
>> and "includes instruction and advice from Charlie Simonds" - IMO Mr
>> Simonds work is far from the essence of naturism,
<snip>

>
> Looks like we're back on the "what is your definition of naturism"
> trek.
>

When did you see a photo of Mr Simonds that contained an older person,
someone with a large mid-rift, someone over 40 years old, a family,
even males are thin on the ground...


Suzanne Piper

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Feb 24, 2008, 8:16:04 AM2/24/08
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recent cover of Naturist Life had a photograph by Charlie (more inside)
of a lady who is collecting her bus pass. Current cover is also by
Charlie, but of a couple.
Suzanne

John Gwalter

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Feb 24, 2008, 9:08:24 AM2/24/08
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"Suzanne Piper" <sp...@shabden.co.uk> wrote in message
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In any case it is Charlie's definition of naturism - and it obviously
differs from Jerry's.

:Jerry:

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Feb 24, 2008, 9:16:51 AM2/24/08
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"Suzanne Piper" <sp...@shabden.co.uk> wrote in message
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> :Jerry: wrote:
<snip>

>>
>> When did you see a photo of Mr Simonds that contained an older
>> person, someone with a large mid-rift, someone over 40 years old, a
>> family, even males are thin on the ground...
> recent cover of Naturist Life had a photograph by Charlie (more
> inside) of a lady who is collecting her bus pass. Current cover is
> also by Charlie, but of a couple.

Well if he is really changing his long held style, as depicted in so
much of his work (in H&E or his own videos) over the last - all but -
twenty years, then I'll retract my comments and apologise - nice to
hear it, about time...


peterche...@googlemail.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:34:22 PM2/24/08
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On 24 Feb, 14:16, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> "Suzanne Piper" <s...@shabden.co.uk> wrote in message

Even if he hasn't changed his long held style, does it really matter?
As a photographer he's entitled to mae the images that appeal to him,
& if that happens to be skinny young females then so be it. That
doesn't mean they're not naturist images (which anyway are probably
harder to clearly define than naturism itself).

www.nakedinthanet.com

Chris

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Mar 2, 2008, 5:05:14 AM3/2/08
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Perhaps one of the reasons Charlie has to use paid models for a lot of his
work is the lack of willing volunteers in the naturist movement. I know my
experience of clubs in particular was that the mere mention of a camera put
you on their mental list for expulsion. Naturists whitter on about their
cause but few are willing to stand up and be counted - or should I say
photographed?


peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 2, 2008, 5:23:45 AM3/2/08
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On 2 Mar, 10:05, "Chris" <aardvark(remove)9...@lineone.net> wrote:
> photographed?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you know for sure that he uses paid models??? Maybe he does, but
that's probably because there's very few people of his preference
(young, female, slim) in UK clubs or on UK beaches. Another point to
remember is that many people don't mind modelling for free if there's
no financial gain involved, but if the photographer is going to sell
these to magazines or earn money from photography courses then they
have every right to demand payment, whether they're true naturists or
not.

Personally I never pay my models yet still find plenty of volunteers,
though most of them aren't really naturists as such.

Duncan Heenan

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:47:36 AM3/8/08
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":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
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I think Charlie Symonds fulfills most of those criteria himself, and yet
appears in most of his films.
--
Duncan Heenan
(Speaking personally)

peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 8, 2008, 11:28:27 AM3/8/08
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On 8 Mar, 13:47, "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message

>
> news:M5udnZf2rcDj8Vza...@bt.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Gwalter" <ern...@stoppage.gwalter.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:62d391F...@mid.individual.net...
> >> ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message

> >>news:dsidnQCnocNa1Vza...@bt.com...
>
> > <snip>
> >>> my main complaint is their using phrases like "essence of naturism" and
> >>> "includes instruction and advice from Charlie Simonds" - IMO Mr Simonds
> >>> work is far from the essence of naturism,
> > <snip>
>
> >> Looks like we're back on the  "what is your definition of naturism" trek.
>
> > When did you see a photo of Mr Simonds that contained an older person,
> > someone with a large mid-rift, someone over 40 years old, a family, even
> > males are thin on the ground...
>
> I think Charlie Symonds fulfills most of those criteria himself, and yet
> appears in most of his films.
> --
> Duncan Heenan
> (Speaking personally)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, he really should get down to the gym more often.

:Jerry:

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Mar 8, 2008, 3:27:32 PM3/8/08
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"Duncan Heenan" <duncan...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:47d298fe$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> ":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:M5udnZf2rcDj8Vza...@bt.com...
>>
<snip>

>>
>> When did you see a photo of Mr Simonds that contained an older
>> person, someone with a large mid-rift, someone over 40 years old, a
>> family, even males are thin on the ground...
> I think Charlie Symonds fulfills most of those criteria himself, and
> yet appears in most of his films.

Yes, I had forgotten about his self vanity, I hope he has grown out of
that 'phase' too, the film crew should never get into frame...


peterche...@googlemail.com

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Mar 8, 2008, 9:20:13 PM3/8/08
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On 8 Mar, 20:27, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:47d298fe$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> > ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message

> >news:M5udnZf2rcDj8Vza...@bt.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> >> When did you see a photo of Mr Simonds that contained an older
> >> person, someone with a large mid-rift, someone over 40 years old, a
> >> family, even males are thin on the ground...
> > I think Charlie Symonds fulfills most of those criteria himself, and
> > yet appears in most of his films.
>
> Yes, I had forgotten about his self vanity, I hope he has grown out of
> that 'phase' too, the film crew should never get into frame...

I bet he'd never hire models that looked like himself (though to be
fair no-one would buy his videos if he did).

Vassaliki Naturist Club

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Apr 26, 2008, 3:50:47 PM4/26/08
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Sorry if people are upset by us putting information about our club on
this message board.

We are only trying to keep you informed of new events that we are
running at the club.

If we don’t tell people or advertise, then the events don’t work and
the club is empty, and we have to close another club.

And as far as the comments on Charlie he is a true gentleman, his work
is purely in the name of naturism. His work in an important part of
naturism today. His work is used worldwide to promote naturism to a
huge number of people.

This week is set to be a fun light heart look at Photography for
naturists and models alike. It is about likeminded people enjoying a
week in the sun enjoying their photography


Simon

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Apr 29, 2008, 8:07:54 PM4/29/08
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Vassaliki Naturist Club wrote:
> Sorry if people are upset by us putting information about our club on
> this message board.
Not at all.

The charter of UK.Rec.Naturist permits advertising of naturist events.
So, as I understand it and having been part of URN for 11 years or so -
post notice of events and places of interest to Naturists.


Simon

Albert (at) nacktKULTUR.org

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Apr 30, 2008, 2:24:35 AM4/30/08
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On 26 Apr., 21:50, Vassaliki Naturist Club <viglanat...@uk2.net>
wrote:

> Sorry if people are upset by us putting information about our club on
> this message board.

No reason at all for apologizing. I have bookmarked your venue and I'm
looking forward to booking a stay at Vassaliki some time! Being pet-
lovers as well, we are particularly impressed by the congenial last
two entries in "Meet the Team", Sheba and Jack...

Thanks for your contribution!

Best regards
Albert + Irene
(In order to reach us by mail please use admin (at) nacktkultur.org -
the from-address is not monitored.)

:Jerry:

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Apr 30, 2008, 6:01:32 AM4/30/08
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"Vassaliki Naturist Club" <vigla...@uk2.net> wrote in message
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<snip>

And as far as the comments on Charlie he is a true gentleman, his work
is purely in the name of naturism. His work in an important part of
naturism today. His work is used worldwide to promote naturism to a
huge number of people.

</quote>

Rubbish, his work is purely in the name of his wallet whilst far to
many people now have the wrong impression as what naturism is as a
result! :~(


Tim Forcer

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May 3, 2008, 10:47:12 AM5/3/08
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:01 Jerry wrote:

>
>
> "Vassaliki Naturist Club" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> And as far as the comments on Charlie he is a true gentleman, his work
> is purely in the name of naturism. His work in an important part of
> naturism today. His work is used worldwide to promote naturism to a
> huge number of people.
> </quote>
>
> Rubbish, his work is purely in the name of his wallet whilst far to
> many people now have the wrong impression as what naturism is as a
> result! :~(

If Charlie Simonds was concerned purely about his wallet, he could
earn far more from other types of photography.

Please give evidence of the "many people" who allegedly "now have the
wrong impression of what naturism is" as a result of Parafotos'
output.

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