Famous Naturists ?
Tone
How many Famous Naturists are there ??
Ones that actually acknowledge that they are Naturists ?.
There is Katie Boyle, & Douglas Adams
Who else ?
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Nick Titchener
In article <3486d6ed...@news.demon.co.uk>, Tone
<to...@antb.demon.co.uk> writes
There *was* George Bernard Shaw - I think.....
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Nick Titchener
Tone
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:07:27 +0000, Tim Forcer
<t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote:
>Tone wrote:
>>
>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>>Ones that actually acknowledge that they are Naturists ?.
>>
>>There is Katie Boyle, & Douglas Adams
>
>There's also Adam and Eve,
AHAAAAA Existence not proven
>
>Eric Gill tried naturism, but wasn't keen.
Who ??
>
>
>Lucinda Lambton (wonderful woman)
Agreed
>
>Do John Lennon and Yoko Ono count?
Super Cool Naturists
>
>Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
Why ?
>
>Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
>are/were famous? If the latter, then Iseult Richardson (think that's
>the right name) of Spielplatz would be a contender?
Real people who are alive now
Stephen Doerr
Nick Titchener wrote in message <$CeRqBAd...@keepcalm.demon.co.uk>...
>In article <3486d6ed...@news.demon.co.uk>, Tone
><to...@antb.demon.co.uk> writes
>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
An 'odd-one-out' question on 'Have I Got News For You' once asserted that
Winston Churchill and Steffi Graf were naturists.
Steve Doerr
Tim Forcer
Tone wrote:
>
>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>
>There is Katie Boyle, & Douglas Adams
According to "205 Arguments and Observations in Support of Naturism",
(see <http://www.naturist.com/N/16.1/205.htm> or buy it from Starkers
for a fiver) the following have acknowledged naturist activity:
Benjamin Franklin, Henry David Thoreau, Alexander Graham Bell, George
Bernard Shaw, Walt Whitman, Eugene O'Neill, Thomas Eakins, President
John Quincy Adams, President Theodore Roosevelt, Jules Jusserand,
President Lyndon Johnson, Billy Graham, Senator Edward Kennedy, John F
Kennedy, President Bush, John D MacArthur, Walt Disney, Robert McNamara,
Roger Baldwin, Charles F Richter, Lynn Redgrave and her family, Bridget
Fonda, Brigitte Bardot, Gary Merrill, Christy Brinkley,
Amy Grant, Dr Seuss. Madonna is NOT mentioned. Many of those listed
only swam or sunbathed nude when alone or only in the company of their
own sex. Does that stop them being naturist?
There's also Adam and Eve, although they converted to being textiles
having been naughty. (Always makes me wonder why nudity - which equated
with innocence in the story of the Fall - is often regarded as sinful by
those who revere the Old Testament, while being clothed - which equated
with sinfulness - is regarded as proper.)
Eric Gill tried naturism, but wasn't keen.
Amongst famous names I've seen mentioned there are the Duke and Duchess
of Windsor (never substantiated), Judith Chalmers and Pete Murray.
Lucinda Lambton (wonderful woman) famously stripped to swim to an island
in order to take a photograph.
Do John Lennon and Yoko Ono count?
Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
I don't think Demi Moore counts, as she only advocates top-free, not
nude, sun/sea bathing.
Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
are/were famous? If the latter, then Iseult Richardson (think that's
the right name) of Spielplatz would be a contender?
Tim Forcer t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
The University of Southampton, UK
The University is not responsible for my opinions
Mike Hopkins
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Tim Forcer
Tone wrote:
>
>Tim Forcer wrote:
>
>>Tone wrote:
>>>
>>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>>>
>>>There is Katie Boyle, & Douglas Adams
>>
>
Has the existence of Katie Boyle been proven?
>>Eric Gill tried naturism, but wasn't keen.
>Who ??
Philistine!! i) as in Gill typefaces (and many others - a prolific
creator of same) ii) sculptor (as in the "Prospero and Ariel" which
graces Broadcasting House in Portland Place, prolific carver of stone
and wood) iii) astonishingly active sex-maniac (anything warm that
moved, it seems).
>>Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
> Why ?
Lady G only stripped because she wanted justice for the locals, not
because she thought that was a nice thing for a lady to do.
Archimedes' public nudity in the (unproved) "Eureka!" story was
(according to that story) unintentional.
>>Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
>>are/were famous? If the latter, then Iseult Richardson (think that's
>>the right name) of Spielplatz would be a contender?
>
> Real people who are alive now
So Iseult whatsername counts, but (again) Katie Boyle doesn't. (Nor do
Eric Gill, Lady G and big A.)
Owen Roberts
Tone wrote in message <347701ec...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:07:27 +0000, Tim Forcer
><t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote:
>
>>Tone wrote:
>>>
>>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>>>Ones that actually acknowledge that they are Naturists ?.
>>>
>>>There is Katie Boyle, & Douglas Adams
>>
>
>>There's also Adam and Eve,
>AHAAAAA Existence not proven
>
>>
>>Eric Gill tried naturism, but wasn't keen.
>Who ??
>>
>>
>>Lucinda Lambton (wonderful woman)
>Agreed
>>
>>Do John Lennon and Yoko Ono count?
>Super Cool Naturists
>>
>>Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
>Why ?
See own answer below
>>
>>Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
>>are/were famous? If the latter, then Iseult Richardson (think that's
>>the right name) of Spielplatz would be a contender?
>
>Real people who are alive now
>
>
loo...@subnet.virtual-pc.com
>>>>>
>>>>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>>>>>Ones that actually acknowledge that they are Naturists ?.
>>>>>
>Judging by photos in "Private Pictures" (Jonathan Cape 1980), Romy
>Schneider and Giovanni Agnelli (boss of Fiat/Ferrari) are, or at least
>were in 1970s, south-of-France-private-yacht-naturists.
>Didn't I read somewhere that Brigitte Bardot had recanted, and now
>thinks all these people stripping off at St Tropez are disgusting ?
>Seriously, is it not the case that the cause of naturism would be
>helped no end by popular, famous personalities expressing or
>demonstrating support ? It's certainly _not_ helped by Jill Dando making
>nudge-nudge remarks about Studland on the Holiday programme, as she
>did the other week.
Just because some folks are famous or are under the spot light, some
even have powers to influence public opinion, (I'm talking about the
traditional perception of 'famous' as in people in the public eye
in tradditional media) does not mean they are
intelligent and can reason logically, these sort of people are puppets
and the purse more often than not holds the strings, as is obviously
the case with Jill Dango in the UK and Dr. Laura in the US.
Descrive Famous?
Is someone famous by the amount of people he/she is known to?
Is someone famous by the nature of their work?
By an historic act?
By herritage?
By the size of their bank account?
Because they are on televison/newspapers sometimes/often?
How about the NET???
The most famous naturists of all are US right here on the NET!
we have a world wide audience of x amount of people and we don't give
a hoot about $$$ & ratings with no one pulling our strings politically
or finacially, we are free spirits and each one of us is the most
important & famous Naturist you will meet.
Luis.
I speak for myself here and do not represent anybody.
Tone
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:30:22 +0000, Tim Forcer
<t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote:
>
>Has the existence of Katie Boyle been proven?
YES
She was the famous lady who said
La France Deux point
>
>>>Eric Gill tried naturism, but wasn't keen.
>>Who ??
>
>Philistine!! i) as in Gill typefaces (and many others - a prolific
>creator of same) ii) sculptor (as in the "Prospero and Ariel" which
>graces Broadcasting House in Portland Place, prolific carver of stone
>and wood) iii) astonishingly active sex-maniac (anything warm that
>moved, it seems).
>
>>>Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
>> Why ?
>
>Lady G only stripped because she wanted justice for the locals, not
>because she thought that was a nice thing for a lady to do.
>
>Archimedes' public nudity in the (unproved) "Eureka!" story was
>(according to that story) unintentional.
>
>>>Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
>>>are/were famous? If the latter, then Iseult Richardson (think that's
>>>the right name) of Spielplatz would be a contender?
>>
>> Real people who are alive now
>
>So Iseult whatsername counts, but (again) Katie Boyle doesn't. (Nor do
>Eric Gill, Lady G and big A.)
Is Katie Dead then (sob)
John Goodwillie
In article <347322...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk>, Tim Forcer
<t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote:
[snip]
> >>Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
> > Why ?
>
> Lady G only stripped because she wanted justice for the locals, not
> because she thought that was a nice thing for a lady to do.
Surely the whole point about Lady Godiva is that she didn't actually go
out in the nude until (a) she had grown her hair long and (b) had
persuaded all the locals to turn their backs (except of course that
Peeping Tom broke the rules). Hardly naturist behaviour!
John Goodwillie
Duncan Booth
In article <HDkDUHAe...@northfield-farm.demon.co.uk>, Simon Smith <si...@northfield-farmNOSPAM.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>It's certainly _not_ helped by Jill Dando making
>nudge-nudge remarks about Studland on the Holiday programme, as she
>did the other week.
>
reasonably well. At least they mentioned the naturist section of Studland,
which is surprising considering how superficial the whole program generally
is. I still can't work out why they billed it as Studland and then spent so
much time extolling the wonders of the beach at Bournemouth.
--
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Ruralmob
Also, when is a naturist not a naturist? For example, I suspect there are
thousands of famous people who have taken their clothes off to swim etc on
holiday because they enjoy it, but as it's not a big deal are unlikely to
mention it anyway. And , if asked "Are you a naturist" would say "No". If asked
"Do you ever sunbathe/swim./walk around naked?" may answer "Yes"
Diana, H&E
Chris Mellor
In article <19971121123...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Ruralmob
<rura...@aol.com> writes
Yes, Diane. I think that's absolutely right. A behavioural naturist just
strips off when sun and location are right. What Tone terms a naturist-
in-the-mind would say yes to being a naturist and, probably, spends more
time without clothes.
Opportunist naturists probably don't belong to clubs or the British
Naturist Committee. Confirmed naturists may. But I think confirmed
naturists are so strong in their individuality that they may well be
'bad joiners' in the sense that they can object to particular rules or
strictures.
How does H & E market itself? To the confirmed avowed 'naturists', to
the opportunist naturists or to others too?
--
Chris Mellor
Bob Brenchley
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:36:17 -0000 on this learned newsgroup "Stephen
Doerr" <dc...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Nick Titchener wrote in message <$CeRqBAd...@keepcalm.demon.co.uk>...
>>In article <3486d6ed...@news.demon.co.uk>, Tone
>><to...@antb.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>How many Famous Naturists are there ??
>
>
>An 'odd-one-out' question on 'Have I Got News For You' once asserted that
>Winston Churchill and Steffi Graf were naturists.
>
Well a lot of Germans are nudists - and Sir W was for many years.
--
Bob.
Nick Titchener
In article <19971121123...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Ruralmob
<rura...@aol.com> writes
>Also, when is a naturist not a naturist? For example, I suspect there are
>thousands of famous people who have taken their clothes off to swim etc on
>holiday because they enjoy it,
Do you mean those like Emma Thompson, Uma Thurman, Brad Pitt and Gwyneth
Paltrow, all of whom (along with others, I'm sure) have been subject to
considerable newspaper coverage following paparazzi pictures of nude
beach / pool "appearances" in the last year or two?
>but as it's not a big deal are unlikely to
>mention it anyway.
Well Ms Paltrow seems to have been very unhappy about it - after all she
thought she was in a completely private situation - though I must admit
to being *very* impressed by the nonchalant way that Ms's Thompson and
Thurman acted on what were, after all, public beaches.
>And , if asked "Are you a naturist" would say "No". If asked
>"Do you ever sunbathe/swim./walk around naked?" may answer "Yes"
>Diana, H&E
I wonder if anyone's ever asked them? And I wonder if it's good or bad
that we know the little that we do about the people above (after all it
could well be the first and only time for all of them) seeing as the
knowledge came about via the worst type of "journalism". I can't help
thinking that the World would be much better if there were *no*
papparazzo at all. Equally though, if the puritanical (but prurient)
"Ooh look! Someone's got their clothes off - how disgusting!!" body
guilt attitude didn't exist then those sort of photos wouldn't be
considered "newsworthy", because there would be little or no demand....
but it does, and they are, so I guess that there are photographers
camping out on beaches somewhere at this very moment hoping to get a
scoop. And in turn that could be the main reason why "famous" people
tend not to admit to being even beach only naturists - because once they
do, wherever they go the beach will end up as crowded as Benidorm in
August - if only with lensmen...
Sorry about that - I had a sudden philosophical attack - must make sure
it doesn't happen again.....
--
Nick Titchener
Hercules Gunter
Tone wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:07:27 +0000, Tim Forcer
> <t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote:
>
> >There's also Adam and Eve,
> AHAAAAA Existence not proven
What has that to do with it? They're at least as much common knowledge as
Sherlock Holmes (a surprising number of people believe he was real) or Tarzan
(who, incidentally, WAS a nudist).
> >Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
> Why ?
Because it was a one-off aberation, not a regular behaviour pattern.
> >Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
> >are/were famous?
> Real people who are alive now
Once you're dead you no longer have any validity? That's a little harsh!
Besides, Marilyn Monroe, as an example, has an impact on people's lives even
today (and she at least didn't mind doffing her clothing, but I'm not sure if
she would have described herself as a nudist).
Hercules Gunter
Tone
>> >There's also Adam and Eve,
>> AHAAAAA Existence not proven
>
>What has that to do with it? They're at least as much common knowledge as
>Sherlock Holmes (a surprising number of people believe he was real) or Tarzan
>(who, incidentally, WAS a nudist).
because something that didnt exist, couldnt have been a naturist
>
>> >Lady Godiva doesn't count, nor does Archimedes.
>> Why ?
>
>Because it was a one-off aberation, not a regular behaviour pattern.
So was Adam & Eve
>
>> >Are we looking for famous people who were/are naturist, or naturists who
>> >are/were famous?
>> Real people who are alive now
>
>Once you're dead you no longer have any validity? That's a little harsh!
Why ? I posted the question, I can set the parameters
If you want different answers then ask a different question
>Besides, Marilyn Monroe, as an example, has an impact on people's lives even
>today (and she at least didn't mind doffing her clothing, but I'm not sure if
>she would have described herself as a nudist).
>Hercules Gunter
So ?
Hercules Gunter
Tone, my posting was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. I know I don't sprinkle
emoticons evertwhere, but that's because I think it is an insult to the
intelligence of the reader to do so. I prefer to give people credit for enough
wit to detect the humorous intent, just as I prefer to view other people's
postings in as positive a light as I possibly can. I'm sorry that the humour was
not apparent to you.
Hercules Gunter