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henk en joke bijl

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Hi all,
I'm trying to find out if for our 45 catamaran the Channel Islands are a
good destination.
Especially, if nude recreation on beaches, and sailing /swimming without
clothes are officially allowed.
Henk and I charter with our cat Zeevonk, can accommodate 12 guests, offering
a fantastic holiday.
In co-operation with a Dutch Naturist Travel Agency we wish to offer 1-2
weeks'sailing holidays. This "summer" we toured Scandinavia for 8 weeks.
Therefore, we now want some more sun....
For the curious: www.catzeiltochten.nl

I'd be grateful for anyone's experience or knowledge of the Naturist
situation/possibilities in the Channel Islands.
And we'd welcome you as a charterguest! We sail from Harlingen (the
Netherlands), prefer to sail clothes optional. The region between the North
of Holland and the Dutch Wadden Islands is beautiful, and perfect for both
Naturism and sailing with our large catamaran. We like to dry out, quite an
experience!

Thanks for any reactions.

Joke (sorry, that's a common Dutch name...pronounced yoke)


Ian Murray

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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dont even think about it - and the prisons are unpleasant

Michael Berridge

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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henk en joke bijl wrote in message
<8s2j2j$p1h$1...@nereid.worldonline.nl>...
There are no naturist beaches in the Channel Isles, others will say that
there are one or two very out of the way places where you can strip off,
but I believe that they are very harsh on nude bathing if caught.
This I feel rather strange as they inhabitants are usually quite French
orientated.

You could, of course remain clothed while on the islands, but strip off
when at sea, but I'm not too sure whether there would be enough local
interest in something that is not practised there for you to get people
to join you. People looking for naturist holidays do not go there very
often.

Mike
8-)#

Mike
8-)#


Steve Clarke

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Hi , I think you would have more success in the Med where there are more
oportunities and perhaps warmer climate.
Regards Steve
www.canariandreams.com
Michael Berridge <Michael....@ukgateway.net> wrote in message
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Mike Hopkins

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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In article <8s2j2j$p1h$1...@nereid.worldonline.nl>, henk en joke bijl
<hjb...@knmg.nl> writes

>Hi all,
>I'm trying to find out if for our 45 catamaran the Channel Islands are a
>good destination.
One of the members of a swim that I attend is virtually paraplegic (can
only move with difficulty using elbow crutches). He relates being alone
and naked on a deserted Channel Island beach (which island I do not
know) and being approached by a police officer. The policemen, on seeing
this man's condition was quite apologetic, nevertheless it was made
quite clear that nudity was not permitted on any beach.

I seem to remember some other negative comments. If you can't find
anything in the NUFF <http://www.nuff.org.uk/> it might be worth
trawling through deja.com.


--
Mike Hopkins
Swim naturally <http://www.ada-augusta.demon.co.uk/>

Icarus

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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"henk en joke bijl" <hjb...@knmg.nl> wrote:

> I'm trying to find out if for our 45 catamaran the Channel Islands are a
> good destination.

> Especially, if nude recreation on beaches, and sailing /swimming without
> clothes are officially allowed.

I recently wrote to the States of Jersey Police ( s...@itl.net ) to ask
for clarification on how the law relates to nude sunbathing in Jersey, and
got the reply below. The chap who responded is a computing bod rather than
a legal bod, but he says he consulted the Legal Department so we can
probably assume this is correct.

--------- Forwarded message ------------
According to our Legal Dept. the situation you describe below [anyone
sunbathing nude on a beach] would constitute an offence in Jersey. We have
what's known as the "Policing of Beaches Regulations" which creates an
offence for anything that offends public decency, (nude sunbathing would be
included). Topless sunbathers could be prosecuted under the above
regulations however the activity is more acceptable these days and
complaints from the public are very rare.

Regards

Peter Haworth
Information Systems Manager
---------- End message ------------

Apparently the situation is much more relaxed in Guernsey but that's just
hearsay, so you ought to check it out with the Tourist Office or somewhere
like that.

Hope this helps :-)


--
John - icar...@email.com
Singles-Friendly UK naturism: http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/egypt/174/
NUFF, the comprehensive guide to UK naturism: http://www.nuff.org.uk/
Links: http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Recreation/Naturism/


Tim Forcer

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Icarus wrote:
>
> ...

> Apparently the situation is much more relaxed in Guernsey
> but that's just hearsay, ...

My informant says the reverse! Beach naturism isn't impossible on
Guernsey, but it seems a LOT of local knowledge is highly desirable.
And you won't get it by asking most locals. IYSWIM?

--
Tim Forcer t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
The University of Southampton, UK

The University is not responsible for my opinions

TamaraEssx

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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Icarus wrote:
>> Apparently the situation is much more relaxed in Guernsey
>> but that's just hearsay, ...

Tim wrote:
>My informant says the reverse! Beach naturism isn't impossible on
>Guernsey, but it seems a LOT of local knowledge is highly desirable.
>And you won't get it by asking most locals. IYSWIM?

Yes, I echo Tim on this. It is a VERY conservative island and against even
topless bathing, IME. The smaller off-islands are worse if they are inhabited
(don't even THINK of going goko on Sark!) but if you can get somewhere really
isolated the beaches can't be beaten for great sand and sea. Just avoid the
locals.

Tamara

john bennett

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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TamaraEssx wrote:
>...
> (don't even THINK of going goko on Sark!) ...

Any particular reason for caution on Sark? Obviously it's not a
place for a naturist holiday, but in the past I've found the odd
corner where what a textile would call a "skinny dip" was feasible.
But what did I know, or not know?

John Bennett

Michael Berridge

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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john bennett wrote in message <39EB7649...@which.net>...

Sark is, I believe, very feudal, newcomers to the island do not have a
say in the government. It is still 'governed' by a small group of feudal
landlords. I would suggest that being caught there would probably be the
worst place in great Britain to be caught.

Mike
8-)#

TamaraEssx

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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In article <39EB7649...@which.net>, john bennett <cal...@which.net>
writes:

>Any particular reason for caution on Sark? Obviously it's not a
>place for a naturist holiday, but in the past I've found the odd
>corner where what a textile would call a "skinny dip" was feasible.

Only that Sark has probably the most conservative residents, and fairly
draconian punishments for stepping out of line! Yes, you'd be fine if you
found a deserted spot, but be careful.

TamaraEssx

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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In article <8sg0lo$c1n$1...@lure.pipex.net>, "Michael Berridge"
<Michael....@ukgateway.net> writes:

>Sark is, I believe, very feudal, newcomers to the island do not have a
>say in the government. It is still 'governed' by a small group of feudal
>landlords. I would suggest that being caught there would probably be the
>worst place in great Britain to be caught.

That's right. The 12 people in the governing body are the hereditary heads of
the 12 original families, unelected, un-removeable. And I've SEEN the prison
cell - and you do NOT want to spend a night there!!!

Still, they do great lobster (no, not in the prison - duh!).

Tamara

john bennett

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Chief Pleas has (at least it had recently) 38 tenement holders and
12 elected representatives. I'm not aware of a specific ordinance
against nudity on Sark. Toplessness on beaches was accepted, unless
that's changed in the past year or two. A recent unrelated case
seems to
have established that Sark law doesn't override European law (Sark
has a
semi-detached relationship to the EU - but the European court is (as
all
know) not an EU institution).

Anyway (I don't advocate this) if you stripped somewhere visible,
and the
Constable were informed of this, and bothered to react, you would
probably
be told to be more discreet. Nude bathing from a yacht would likely
be
ignored. The sea is VERY cold until late August.

There is some evidence of a naturist location, I don't think it's a
beach, on Alderney, but I've never worked out how to get to it.

John Bennett

Ryan Locker

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Mar 20, 2014, 4:26:32 PM3/20/14
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On Wednesday, 11 October 2000 08:00:00 UTC+1, henk en joke bijl wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm trying to find out if for our 45 catamaran the Channel Islands are a
> good destination.
> Especially, if nude recreation on beaches, and sailing /swimming without
> clothes are officially allowed.
> Henk and I charter with our cat Zeevonk, can accommodate 12 guests, offering
> a fantastic holiday.
> In co-operation with a Dutch Naturist Travel Agency we wish to offer 1-2
> weeks'sailing holidays. This "summer" we toured Scandinavia for 8 weeks.
> Therefore, we now want some more sun....
> For the curious: www.catzeiltochten.nl





La Bette Bay in Guernsey is a great anchorage & suitable at low tide for naturist bathing. This bay is Guernsey's official unofficial nudist beach & has been since about 1904. :)

Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

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Mar 20, 2014, 4:47:51 PM3/20/14
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On Wednesday, 11 October 2000 08:00:00 UTC+1, henk en joke bijl wrote:

> Joke (sorry, that's a common Dutch name...pronounced yoke)

Actually, pronounced yokuh, not like the English word yoke (which one
could write in Dutch as jook).

Assface Magee

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"Phillip Helbig---undress to reply" <hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> wrote
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Up your jook, nazi dogface.

Informed

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May 26, 2014, 10:17:41 AM5/26/14
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The Channel Islands themselves are no good, but from Jersey or Guernsey you are very close to Carteret and there you have a 7 mile uninhabited golden sandy beach where no one wears clothes. It is perfect for being as nature intended.
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