Taking a motorcycle helmet as hand luggage on a flight
DozynSLeepy
on a flight recently?
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wrote:
> Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
> on a flight recently?
Nope. as long as it all goes in 1 bag, they don't care ...
Paul.
Beelzebub_on_Mac
Hey, did you get my email today?
zym...@technologist.com
wrote:
> On 26 May, 20:40, zymu...@technologist.com wrote:
>
> > On 26 May, 20:25, DozynSLeepy <nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
> > > on a flight recently?
>
> > Nope. as long as it all goes in 1 bag, they don't care ...
>
> Hey, did you get my email today?
To the Zym one ? I don't check that very often ...
Will do so now ...
Paul.
SteveH
Haven't tried it yet, but, allegedly, as bike kit is PPE (assuming it's
CE or BSI marked, I assume) - you can take it on top of your usual
baggage allowance.
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BGN
<nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid> wrote:
>Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
>on a flight recently?
Check the T&Cs of the airline. Who are you travelling with and I'll
have a check on Galileo or Amadeus tomorrow at work.
A number of US Airlines, for example, permit you to take your hand
baggage plus one 'personal item' which is often defined as a laptop,
hand bag, cape, etc. (if it'll fit in the overheadd locket) and I
assume your helmet could be defined as that.
What's the airline and route you're travelling?
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Beelzebub_on_Mac
> <zymu...@technologist.com> wrote:
> > On 26 May, 20:25, DozynSLeepy <nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
> > > on a flight recently?
>
> > Nope. as long as it all goes in 1 bag, they don't care ...
>
> Haven't tried it yet, but, allegedly, as bike kit is PPE (assuming it's
> CE or BSI marked, I assume) - you can take it on top of your usual
> baggage allowance.
Makes no difference whether it's PPE or not. A couple of years ago,
they had a bit of a clamp down suddenly on the size of hand baggage
allowed and I was forced to put my helmet in my check-in baggage or
else not get on the flight. I had to beg bubble wrap from the
information desk, who did the best they could, bless them.
I was not a happy Beelzebub and wished plagues of nasties upon them.
Beelzebub_on_Mac
Yes it was, but no worries as it wasn't anything exciting. Today was
a slow day at work...
Tosspot
> Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
> on a flight recently?
Nope, but it might not fit the overhead locker depending on A/C type.
Oh, btw, when you get a funny look from the security droids, tell them
you're a nervous flyer...
Vass
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DozynSLeepy
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:25:45 +0100, DozynSLeepy
> <nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
>> on a flight recently?
>
> Check the T&Cs of the airline. Who are you travelling with and I'll
> have a check on Galileo or Amadeus tomorrow at work.
>
> A number of US Airlines, for example, permit you to take your hand
> baggage plus one 'personal item' which is often defined as a laptop,
> hand bag, cape, etc. (if it'll fit in the overheadd locket) and I
> assume your helmet could be defined as that.
>
> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
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The Older Gentleman
> A couple of years ago,
> they had a bit of a clamp down suddenly on the size of hand baggage
> allowed and I was forced to put my helmet in my check-in baggage or
> else not get on the flight.
Bimey. Sleazyjet didn't bat an eyelid, in January.
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The Older Gentleman
> Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
> on a flight recently?
No. Did it loads of times in the 1980s, on bike launches. OK, so not
recent, but I don't see why things should have changed.
Oh yeah, and I brought back my helmet as hand luggage after the Tenere
died on the way back from the Elefant, didn't I?
The Older Gentleman
> plus one 'personal item' which is often defined as a laptop,
> hand bag, cape, etc. (if it'll fit in the overheadd locket) and I
> assume your helmet could be defined as that.
Wear it on board and call it a hat.
BGN
slEasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter. They're also fucking
awful. Ring 'em and ask them. They'll probably want to charge you to
go to the loo.
SteveH
> Beelzebub_on_Mac <charlen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of years ago,
> > they had a bit of a clamp down suddenly on the size of hand baggage
> > allowed and I was forced to put my helmet in my check-in baggage or
> > else not get on the flight.
>
> Bimey. Sleazyjet didn't bat an eyelid, in January.
TAP Air Portugal played up about helmets at Faro airport a few years
ago. Because I was also carrying a rucksack.
Katie wasn't carrying anything other than her helmet, so I just tied the
2 helmet bags together, making it a single piece of hand luggage.
They let us through, but weren't happy about it.
The Older Gentleman
Like I said, Easyjet Munich to Stansted didn't have a problem.
The Older Gentleman
> EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter. They're also fucking
> awful. Ring 'em and ask them. They'll probably want to charge you to
> go to the loo.
Or go by my experience, now repeated a few times in this thread.
Andy Bonwick
wrote:
Not recently but I have in the past been told that a crash helmet
counted as my one piece of hand luggage and if I wanted to take
something else as hand luggage the helmet had to go in the hold.
ginge
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>BGN <nickm...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> plus one 'personal item' which is often defined as a laptop,
>> hand bag, cape, etc. (if it'll fit in the overheadd locket) and I
>> assume your helmet could be defined as that.
>
>Wear it on board and call it a hat.
Nut anyone that argues. Post the results here.
Andy Bonwick
wrote:
><zym...@technologist.com> wrote:
>
>> On 26 May, 20:25, DozynSLeepy <nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> > Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
>> > on a flight recently?
>>
>> Nope. as long as it all goes in 1 bag, they don't care ...
>
>Haven't tried it yet, but, allegedly, as bike kit is PPE (assuming it's
>CE or BSI marked, I assume) - you can take it on top of your usual
>baggage allowance.
Try it and see what happens. Flying from Luton with Easyjet it had to
go as hold luggage but flying back I got away with it being hand
luggage. My view was that a holdall with a weekends worth of clutter
was less likely to be damaged than a �300 crash helmet so the holdall
went on the carousel and the helmet went with me.
Lozzo
I have a Knox rucksack that has a little mesh helmet bag thingy that
unfolds from the base and stays attached to the main rucksack. That
might be a solution.
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bod43
> Oh yeah, and I brought back my helmet as hand luggage after the Tenere
Not a specific reply.
On boarding - tell them, you have to wear it for religous
reasons.
Once airborne - tell them you have to remove it for
religous reasons. Too close to the Sky Fairy, must
show respect.
No problem.
Dan L
Shove the thing up yer jumper and tell 'em you've got a tapeworm.
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The Older Gentleman
> On boarding - tell them, you have to wear it for religous
> reasons.
>
> Once airborne - tell them you have to remove it for
> religous reasons. Too close to the Sky Fairy, must
> show respect.
<G>
Eddie
>
> I have a Knox rucksack that has a little mesh helmet bag thingy that
> unfolds from the base and stays attached to the main rucksack. That
> might be a solution.
That's what I did when I flew to Pound Island. The only flaw was that
the overhead lockers were too small to take the helmet, so one of the
cabin crew stashed it somewhere separately.
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CT
> No. Did it loads of times in the 1980s, on bike launches. OK, so not
> recent, but I don't see why things should have changed.
Ummm...because some nasty things have happened[1] to aircraft since the
1980s. I suspect you could take a bottle of water onto a flight in the
80s.
[1] Potentially. But will definitely happen again so we're all
doomed![2]
[2] Talking of which, I see 44 people have been confirmed with Swine
Flu, but it barely made the news yesterday. <fx:thinks> Ah, it's only
in Birmingham so doesn't matter.
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ginge
>[2] Talking of which, I see 44 people have been confirmed with Swine
>Flu, but it barely made the news yesterday. <fx:thinks> Ah, it's only
>in Birmingham so doesn't matter.
I don't see this as a bad thing. Nobody deems to be dying of it, and
if it does mutate those who've had it in this wave may have built up
some resistance to part of it's genetic code, so maybe won't do so
badly in further waves.
It's only a bit of flu ffs, not the plague.
CT
That was my point. And the fact that a couple of weeks back, *one*
person being diagnosed was headline news. Now...
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darsy
Gentleman) wrote:
> No. Did it loads of times in the 1980s, on bike launches. OK, so not
> recent, but I don't see why things should have changed.
hahahaha
you fucking clown.
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Ace
>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>> No. Did it loads of times in the 1980s, on bike launches. OK, so not
>> recent, but I don't see why things should have changed.
>
>Ummm...because some nasty things have happened[1] to aircraft since the
>1980s. I suspect you could take a bottle of water onto a flight in the
>80s.
And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
CT
> And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
*I* don't.
I'm also sure that removing my belt and shoes doesn't actually do any
good in respect of aircraft safety, but it's not up to me to decide
whether I do it or not.
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Mick Whittingham
<nos...@ireallymeannospam.invalid> writes
>Anyone had any problems carrying a motorcycle helmet on as hand luggage
>on a flight recently?
>
A couple of time to south America. AF & AOM. No probs as cabin baggage.
On one trip where there was no queue going through cabin baggage X-ray I
asked if I could come round the other side and look at the X-ray out of
interest. The guy was a biker himself and said no probs and we ran the
helmet through a second time with it rotated 90 degs.
It didn't tell me anything but it was interesting.
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Tosspot
Same way as a plastic bottle of Volvic. Very nasty stuff.
dog
> I have a Knox rucksack that has a little mesh helmet bag thingy that
> unfolds from the base and stays attached to the main rucksack. That
> might be a solution.
that mesh webbing that predator uses to carry his skull trophies around
could become popular on pikey airlines, you could claim that it wasn't
luggage at all but clothing as it was attached to your body.
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Bear
> Lozzo wrote:
> > I have a Knox rucksack that has a little mesh helmet bag thingy that
> > unfolds from the base and stays attached to the main rucksack. That
> > might be a solution.
>
> that mesh webbing that predator uses to carry his skull trophies around
> could become popular on pikey airlines
Now there's a bloke you don't wanna be stuck next to on a flight ... 8
feet tall and bony elbows.
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> In article <4a1d0f13$0$23998$db0fe...@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...
>
> > Lozzo wrote:
> > > I have a Knox rucksack that has a little mesh helmet bag thingy that
> > > unfolds from the base and stays attached to the main rucksack. That
> > > might be a solution.
>
> > that mesh webbing that predator uses to carry his skull trophies around
> > could become popular on pikey airlines
>
> Now there's a bloke you don't wanna be stuck next to on a flight ... 8
> feet tall and bony elbows.
Almost as bad as being next to Verdigris
Champ
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>Wear it on board and call it a hat.
LOL!
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Champ
wrote:
>>> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
>>
>>Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
>EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter.
In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
Iain Rae
Flying back from Paris 2 years ago we got an opened, half eaten bar of
toblerone (bought in duty free) taken off us, they were happy to let us
take on an unopened bar though, presumably the thought that we could
open it onboard had escaped them.
Do they just make this crap up on the spot?
This year going to Venice via Heathrow we were told to leave shoes/belts
on going out and then coming back when we had 15 minutes to clear
immigration, go back through security and make the connecting flight
we'd to practically strip off to pass through the same security.
Why can't they decide what they want & put signage up so there's no
faffing about when you get to the random search machine (metal detector)?
This year if we go somewhere hot I'm going through security wearing swim
shorts and a smile, I'll still set off the metal detector though.
BGN
>On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:15:26 +0100, BGN <nickm...@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
>>>
>>>Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
>
>>EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter.
>
>In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
Because their carrier codes are three letters, EZY. Two letter
carriers like BA, AA, ZB, etc. are scheduled airlines. Charter
carriers (EZY, TCX, FCA, TOM, etc.) do not list on GDS.
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Champ
wrote:
>>>>> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
>>>>
>>>>Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
>>
>>>EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter.
>>
>>In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
>
>Because their carrier codes are three letters, EZY. Two letter
>carriers like BA, AA, ZB, etc. are scheduled airlines. Charter
>carriers (EZY, TCX, FCA, TOM, etc.) do not list on GDS.
What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
character ICAO code BAW?
Beelzebub_on_Mac
wrote:
> Beelzebub_on_Mac <charlene_gib...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > A couple of years ago,
> > they had a bit of a clamp down suddenly on the size of hand baggage
> > allowed and I was forced to put my helmet in my check-in baggage or
> > else not get on the flight.
>
> Bimey. Sleazyjet didn't bat an eyelid, in January.
Did you spot the "a couple of years ago"? It was just after the July
07 bomb attempts IIRC and they decreased the hand baggage to the size
of a very small hanky.
BGN
>>>>>> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
>>>>>
>>>>>Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
>>>
>>>>EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter.
>>>
>>>In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
>>
>>Because their carrier codes are three letters, EZY. Two letter
>>carriers like BA, AA, ZB, etc. are scheduled airlines. Charter
>>carriers (EZY, TCX, FCA, TOM, etc.) do not list on GDS.
>
>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
It is.
>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>character ICAO code BAW?
slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
Champ
wrote:
>On Wed, 27 May 2009 21:38:00 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> What's the airline and route you're travelling?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Easyjet Edinburgh to Bristol.
>>>>
>>>>>EasyJet don't list on GDS as they're charter.
>>>>
>>>>In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
>>>
>>>Because their carrier codes are three letters, EZY. Two letter
>>>carriers like BA, AA, ZB, etc. are scheduled airlines. Charter
>>>carriers (EZY, TCX, FCA, TOM, etc.) do not list on GDS.
>>
>>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
>
>It is.
>
>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>character ICAO code BAW?
>
>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
measurable criteria.
Champ
>On 27 May 2009 08:38:38 GMT in uk.rec.motorcycles, CT says:
>
>>Ace wrote:
>>
>>> And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
>>
>>*I* don't.
>
>Me neither, but stopping at a shop on the way home and being asked to
>remove a flip lid for health and safety reasons shows how ingrained
>the pervasive fuckwittedness is.
I hope you told them to fuck off. "Health and Safety reasons", FFS.
ts
> Ace wrote:
> >
> > And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
>
> Same way as a plastic bottle of Volvic. Very nasty stuff.
Getting slightly back on topic, earlier this year I brought with me a
carburettor, after having asked less than a month before whether that
was acceptable to take on board, and was told "yes". But oh-oh, if I had
referred to one that had been in use, it was not possible. I didn't want
to ditch it and started inquiring why, since I earlier was told "yes".
If used, as opposed to in its original (sealed, presumably) packaging,
it would pose an explosion risk etc etc. My argument that I could buy a
lighter in the tax free kiosk, which would pose a greater explosion risk
was understood, but the security officer still wasn't keen on let me
through with it. After some further arguing and opening it to show that
it was completely free from any visible trace of fuel (and some other
arguments), I was in the end allowed to take it with me.
Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
passengers.
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Ace
>On Wed, 27 May 2009 21:52:04 +0100, BGN <nickm...@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 May 2009 21:38:00 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>In what fucking universe are Easyjet described as 'charter'?
>>>>
>>>>Because their carrier codes are three letters, EZY. Two letter
>>>>carriers like BA, AA, ZB, etc. are scheduled airlines. Charter
>>>>carriers (EZY, TCX, FCA, TOM, etc.) do not list on GDS.
>>>
>>>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
>>
>>It is.
>>
>>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>>character ICAO code BAW?
>>
>>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
>
>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>measurable criteria.
Nicelt done, sir. For a minute or thirty I thought I might have to
google shit to argue the point, but thankfully you did it instead.
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<exbn...@deaVOLVO.spamcon.org> typed
>
>Airport security rules are made up
on the fly by someone who's paid minimum wage and only gets a giggle in
his otherwise incredibly dull day by fucking you over in the sure and
certain knowledge that you daren't argue because you'll miss your flight
and probably be arrested by another man whose IQ is less than the
measurement from the peak of his cap to the tip of his nose in microns.
<nods>
Oh yes.
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Bear
> Flying back from Paris 2 years ago we got an opened, half eaten bar of
> toblerone (bought in duty free) taken off us, they were happy to let us
> take on an unopened bar though, presumably the thought that we could
> open it onboard had escaped them.
> Do they just make this crap up on the spot?
To be fair, those bigger bars of Toblerone can be *sodding* solid,
especially when chilled.
Cab
> Flying back from Paris 2 years ago we got an opened, half eaten bar of
> toblerone (bought in duty free) taken off us, they were happy to let us
> take on an unopened bar though, presumably the thought that we could
> open it onboard had escaped them.
> Do they just make this crap up on the spot?
Probably. I'm quite surprised as a toblerone is a sold, not a liquid, so you
should have been able to take it through. Mind you, there's no point in
arguing the point, as you'll not win anyway.
> This year going to Venice via Heathrow we were told to leave shoes/belts
> on going out and then coming back when we had 15 minutes to clear
> immigration, go back through security and make the connecting flight
> we'd to practically strip off to pass through the same security.
In Heathrow, shortly after they announced no hand luggage at all, there
were queues going right outside T2 as they screwed it up big time.
Anyway even in France they can't make up their mind half the time. I've
seen different implementations of security policies between Orly and CDG,
so fcku knows who controls it all.
> Why can't they decide what they want & put signage up so there's no
> faffing about when you get to the random search machine (metal detector)?
Ah, to keep you on your toes. At least in the US when you have 'SSSS' on your
boarding card, you know you're going to be stripped. Fuckers.
> This year if we go somewhere hot I'm going through security wearing swim
> shorts and a smile, I'll still set off the metal detector though.
Sometimes the pins in my ankle set the detectors off. Sometimes they don't.
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> Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
> from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
> passengers.
Yes.
I once had the little miniature tube of toothpaste from the onboard
vanity pack confiscated when I changed planes.
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The Older Gentleman
> Sometimes the pins in my ankle set the detectors off. Sometimes they don't.
I wish my old Pa, with his tin leg, was still alive. That used to cause
problems sometimes, way before all this present shit started.
Iain Rae
> In article <gvjrmv$ccv$1...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, Iain Rae says...
>
>> Flying back from Paris 2 years ago we got an opened, half eaten bar of
>> toblerone (bought in duty free) taken off us, they were happy to let us
>> take on an unopened bar though, presumably the thought that we could
>> open it onboard had escaped them.
>> Do they just make this crap up on the spot?
>
> To be fair, those bigger bars of Toblerone can be *sodding* solid,
> especially when chilled.
"....the highjacker was seen brandishing chocolate and shouting ""take
me to cuba or the Stewardess with the nut allergy gets a mouthful""" .
Iain Rae
> Tosspot <Frank...@esa.int> wrote:
>
>> Ace wrote:
>>> And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
>> Same way as a plastic bottle of Volvic. Very nasty stuff.
>
> Getting slightly back on topic, earlier this year I brought with me a
> carburettor, after having asked less than a month before whether that
> was acceptable to take on board, and was told "yes". But oh-oh, if I had
> referred to one that had been in use, it was not possible. I didn't want
> to ditch it and started inquiring why, since I earlier was told "yes".
> If used, as opposed to in its original (sealed, presumably) packaging,
> it would pose an explosion risk etc etc. My argument that I could buy a
> lighter in the tax free kiosk, which would pose a greater explosion risk
> was understood,
You're not supposed to take the lighters onboard either (no i don't know
why they sell things in duty free that you can't take onboard). Pointing
out that duty free sell highly flammable liquids by the litrefull that
he couldn't stop you taking onboard might have been a better argument.
TBH I'm amazed that they still allow people to take duty free into the
cabin, I can't imagine that 3 or 4 suicide bombers setting off a couple
of motolov cocktails each would do the inside of an airliner much good.
but the security officer still wasn't keen on let me
> through with it. After some further arguing and opening it to show that
> it was completely free from any visible trace of fuel (and some other
> arguments), I was in the end allowed to take it with me.
>
> Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
> from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
> passengers.
>
Some are actually ok, ironically enough I was stopped by one at heathrow
when the metal detector went off. I commented that the only metal I had
on me was my wedding ring and the studs in my jeans and he was nice
enough to admit that I'd not actually set off the detector, it was
programmed to go off on random "false positives" to make sure that the
staff were awake and to make sure that they got to do a certain amount
of body searches every shift.
Ace
wrote:
>You're not supposed to take the lighters onboard either (no i don't know
>why they sell things in duty free that you can't take onboard). Pointing
>out that duty free sell highly flammable liquids by the litrefull that
>he couldn't stop you taking onboard might have been a better argument.
Err, even duty-free strengh spirits are not 'highly flammable. They
can be induced to burn, sure, but they won't easily light at room
temperature.
>TBH I'm amazed that they still allow people to take duty free into the
>cabin, I can't imagine that 3 or 4 suicide bombers setting off a couple
>of motolov cocktails each would do the inside of an airliner much good.
What are you going to add to your vodka then? Cos it wouldn't do much
harm on its own, unless you're just trying to get the stewardess
pissed enough to let you into the cockpit.
Mick Whittingham
Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ts
><exbn...@deaVOLVO.spamcon.org> typed
>>
>>Airport security rules are made up
>
>on the fly by someone who's paid minimum wage and only gets a giggle in
>his otherwise incredibly dull day by fucking you over in the sure and
>certain knowledge that you daren't argue because you'll miss your
>flight and probably be arrested by another man whose IQ is less than
>the measurement from the peak of his cap to the tip of his nose in
>microns.
>
><nods>
>
>Oh yes.
>
I've gone through Gatwick (Gat-nick)[1] with a loose shoulder sack and
my camera bag.
Security guy with an odd accent and even little IQ says I can't go
through.
Yes I can says me.
No you can't says him and before I can do anything off he goes to get
security.
He returns with security and by this time I have put my camera bag
inside the shoulder sack.
The idiot then accuses me of hiding my camera bag it in the airport
somewhere.
I then show the security guy that I have put it in the sack. He just
looks skywards shakes his head and waves me through with idiot shouting
after me "HE'S GOT TWO BAGS!"
[1] Stopped by HM Customs & Revenue on return from my last trip to Egypt
diving, he wants to know why I look so pissed off.
"You have just cost me a taxi fare to my hotel. Are YOU going to pay for
it?"
"Why's that." he asks.
"After a flight delay I had exactly the right length of time to get to
the courtesy phone before 11:30 PM, to get a free taxi. I've now missed
it, so I'll have to pay for one and add 40 minutes to my journey."
"I'll be as quick as possible!"
"There's no point I've missed the courtesy taxi."
"Can you open these bags please."
"NO!"
"Are you refusing to?"
"No, they are zip tied up with commercial zip ties. This is to stop the
people who work at Gat-nick from stealing my property. You do all have a
very bad reputation here. I'm not allowed to have a method of cutting
the zip ties on me and you are not allowed to have a sharp implement on
the customs floor. Therefore I can't open them. Over to you!"
He then fondles one of the dive bags and says I can go.
"Are you paying for my taxi!"
At this point I got a kick in the ankle from J so I moved on.
Queued at the taxi booth ordered and waited for a taxi and got to the
hotel 40 minutes late.
--
Mick Whittingham
'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
Simon Wilson
> On Thu, 28 May 2009 07:15:49 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Cab says:
>
>> Anyway even in France they can't make up their mind half the time. I've
>> seen different implementations of security policies between Orly and CDG,
>> so fcku knows who controls it all.
>
> airport, admittedly it was a 3rd world shite hole.
>
Glasgow?
--
/Simon
Mick Whittingham
<b.ro...@ifrance.com> writes
>On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:15:10 +0100, Iain Rae <ia...@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>You're not supposed to take the lighters onboard either (no i don't know
>>why they sell things in duty free that you can't take onboard). Pointing
>>out that duty free sell highly flammable liquids by the litrefull that
>>he couldn't stop you taking onboard might have been a better argument.
>
>Err, even duty-free strengh spirits are not 'highly flammable. They
>can be induced to burn, sure, but they won't easily light at room
>temperature.
Laphroaig Cask Strength 10 year old at 57.3% would burn.
But what a waste.
>
>>TBH I'm amazed that they still allow people to take duty free into the
>>cabin, I can't imagine that 3 or 4 suicide bombers setting off a couple
>>of motolov cocktails each would do the inside of an airliner much good.
>
>What are you going to add to your vodka then? Cos it wouldn't do much
>harm on its own, unless you're just trying to get the stewardess
>pissed enough to let you into the cockpit.
Who says you intend to get her into the cockpit. An empty first class
would do ;-)
Switters
allegedly wrote:
> Why can't they decide what they want & put signage up so there's no
> faffing about when you get to the random search machine (metal
> detector)?
A random check is the best means of security. If everyone knows what's
going to happen and where, they can plan to bypass it. Add an element of
randomness, so it's difficult to plan for, which makes us safer without
inconveniencing everyone.
A lot of the new measures are nonsense, but the random person / random
check thing is the best single thing that they can do.
ginge
>
>Probably. I'm quite surprised as a toblerone is a sold, not a liquid, so you
>should have been able to take it through. Mind you, there's no point in
>arguing the point, as you'll not win anyway.
Never underestimate the power of hungry officialdom.
davethedave
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:10:08 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Champ says:
>
>>On Wed, 27 May 2009 21:46:49 +0100, boots <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 27 May 2009 08:38:38 GMT in uk.rec.motorcycles, CT says:
>>>
>>>>Ace wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And in what way do you suppose a helmet present a danger?
>>>>
>>>>*I* don't.
>>>
>>>Me neither, but stopping at a shop on the way home and being asked to
>>>remove a flip lid for health and safety reasons shows how ingrained the
>>>pervasive fuckwittedness is.
>>
>>I hope you told them to fuck off. "Health and Safety reasons", FFS.
>
> I did and threw the basket at the security bod, still didn't get my pint
> of milk mind.
Who was it that had an "Open the till and give me the money!" dymo label
on the bottom of their visor for just this kind of thing? Was this just
urban legend?
--
davethedave
davethedave
Wrong word order there old chap.
"Get into her cockpit" is the correct form.
--
davethedave
Bear
Bear
*Saucy*
Bear
Older Gentleman says...
> ts <exbn...@deaVOLVO.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> > Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
> > from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
> > passengers.
>
> Yes.
>
> I once had the little miniature tube of toothpaste from the onboard
> vanity pack confiscated when I changed planes.
FFS! They're about 2 inches long, and you'd be hard pressed to kill a
midge with one!
Mick Whittingham
<daved...@gmail.com> writes
I stand[1] corrected.
[1] Or what ever her preferred position is.
BGN
>>>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
>>
>>It is.
>>
>>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>>character ICAO code BAW?
>>
>>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
>
>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>measurable criteria.
In the travel biz there are three types of airline, scheduled, charter
and private charters. Airlines which trade with 2 letter identifiers
are scheduled and those which trade with three letter codes are
charter. Therefore EZY is a charter flight and anyone who works in
travel will agree.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel
<nickm...@spamcop.net> typed
>On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:09:35 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
>>>
>>>It is.
>>>
>>>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>>>character ICAO code BAW?
>>>
>>>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>>>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
>>
>>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>>measurable criteria.
>
>In the travel biz there are three types of airline, scheduled, charter
>and private charters. Airlines which trade with 2 letter identifiers
>are scheduled and those which trade with three letter codes are
>charter. Therefore EZY is a charter flight and anyone who works in
>travel will agree.
Utter bollocks.
The difference between scheduled and charter is well documented, and
it's fuck-all to do with the length of the code.
BGN
<w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, BGN
><nickm...@spamcop.net> typed
>>On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:09:35 +0100, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>>What bollocks. And I thought this was meant to be your job?
>>>>
>>>>It is.
>>>>
>>>>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>>>>character ICAO code BAW?
>>>>
>>>>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>>>>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
>>>
>>>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>>>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>>>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>>>measurable criteria.
>>
>>In the travel biz there are three types of airline, scheduled, charter
>>and private charters. Airlines which trade with 2 letter identifiers
>>are scheduled and those which trade with three letter codes are
>>charter. Therefore EZY is a charter flight and anyone who works in
>>travel will agree.
>
>Utter bollocks.
>
>The difference between scheduled and charter is well documented, and
>it's fuck-all to do with the length of the code.
The UK travel business must be in a real state then, I'm amazed it's
managed to last this long.
The Older Gentleman
> he was nice
> enough to admit that I'd not actually set off the detector, it was
> programmed to go off on random "false positives" to make sure that the
> staff were awake and to make sure that they got to do a certain amount
> of body searches every shift.
Actually, I'm quietly impressed by that.
The Older Gentleman
> In article <1j0f0k3.1uzstrtdbbubbN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk>, The
> Older Gentleman says...
> > ts <exbn...@deaVOLVO.spamcon.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
> > > from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
> > > passengers.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > I once had the little miniature tube of toothpaste from the onboard
> > vanity pack confiscated when I changed planes.
>
> FFS! They're about 2 inches long, and you'd be hard pressed to kill a
> midge with one!
I know. But "toothpaste tubes" were verboten. And the irony that it was
givedn to me on a BA flight, and I was carrying it onto another BA
flight, was not lost on me.
The Older Gentleman
> "No, they are zip tied up with commercial zip ties. This is to stop the
> people who work at Gat-nick from stealing my property. You do all have a
> very bad reputation here. I'm not allowed to have a method of cutting
> the zip ties on me and you are not allowed to have a sharp implement on
> the customs floor. Therefore I can't open them. Over to you!"
Fucking genius.
<Heads for ironmonger's>
Mick Whittingham
<bo...@despammed.com> writes
>On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:03:13 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, The Older
>Gentleman says:
>
>>Mick Whittingham <Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "No, they are zip tied up with commercial zip ties. This is to stop the
>>> people who work at Gat-nick from stealing my property. You do all have a
>>> very bad reputation here. I'm not allowed to have a method of cutting
>>> the zip ties on me and you are not allowed to have a sharp implement on
>>> the customs floor. Therefore I can't open them. Over to you!"
>>
>>Fucking genius.
>>
>><Heads for ironmonger's>
>
>Heathrow to find the ties cut, nothing missing including the morphine
>bottle I liberated from the wreck I dived before coming home.
>
>
I've arrived at Charles de Gaul and my Samsonite suitcase was, locks
bust open, going around a carousel with everything of value nicked.
AND NO BODY, INCLUDING THE F*CKING FRENCH POLICE, WAS INTERESTED IN
DOING ANYTHING.
Sorry got carried away there.
ts
> My understanding is that they also get a number of attempts made to
> get 'something' through by other personnel testing the ability of the
> existing security people..
Heh - I once unintentionally did the same at Gatwick, when I arrived
late for my flight, and only realised when I emptied my pockets for keys
that I had forgotten to take out and leave my swiss army knife[1] in my
topbox. So it went through the X-ray machine together with keys, coins
and my watch - and <holy miracle> the guy behind the monitor was too
sleepy to realise that I intended to smuggle an assault weapon onboard
my plane.
They _need_ ability tests.
[1] have had it in my pocket for about 20 years, not keen to allow
anyeone to throw it away
--
ts in Surrey // to send e-mail, remove vehicle
K-RS 8v, 80/7, 750SS
Jimac
> Iain Rae wrote:
>
> >
> > You're not supposed to take the lighters onboard either (no i don't
> > know why they sell things in duty free that you can't take onboard).
> > Pointing out that duty free sell highly flammable liquids by the
> > litrefull that he couldn't stop you taking onboard might have been a
> > better argument.
>
> Eh, that rule for lighters only applies in the US, doesn't it? I've
> never had any grief in Europe.
Actually, you're not allowed to pack lighters into hold luggage and you
are specifically told to put them into hand luggage. I had one of my
hold bags searched in Phoenix airport and they called me back to
security via the tannoy. They had found a souvenir Zippo I had bought
in Winslow and told me I was not allowed to pack it into my bag and I
had to carry it on board. Even though it was brand new and had never
been filled.
--
Jimac
1985 Kawasaki GT750
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 CRD LTD
Bear
says...
> On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:03:14 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, The Older
> Gentleman says:
>
> >Iain Rae <ia...@dcs.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> he was nice
> >> enough to admit that I'd not actually set off the detector, it was
> >> programmed to go off on random "false positives" to make sure that the
> >> staff were awake and to make sure that they got to do a certain amount
> >> of body searches every shift.
> >
> >Actually, I'm quietly impressed by that.
>
> get 'something' through by other personnel testing the ability of the
> existing security people..
That definitely happens with the Chunnel, so sounds reasonable.
Tosspot
> Bear <bastard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1j0f0k3.1uzstrtdbbubbN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk>, The
>> Older Gentleman says...
>>> ts <exbn...@deaVOLVO.spamcon.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Airport security rules are made up by bureaucrats who are too detached
>>>> from reality to distingiush between real risks and annoying innocent
>>>> passengers.
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> I once had the little miniature tube of toothpaste from the onboard
>>> vanity pack confiscated when I changed planes.
>> FFS! They're about 2 inches long, and you'd be hard pressed to kill a
>> midge with one!
>
> I know. But "toothpaste tubes" were verboten. And the irony that it was
> givedn to me on a BA flight, and I was carrying it onto another BA
> flight, was not lost on me.
I came ->that<- close to walking off with a Lufthansa knife from
business class so I could put it in my back pocket and return it to them
on my next flight.
It was probably best that I didn't, however, tempting was not the word
for it.
Tosspot
> Iain Rae <ia...@dcs.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> he was nice
>> enough to admit that I'd not actually set off the detector, it was
>> programmed to go off on random "false positives" to make sure that the
>> staff were awake and to make sure that they got to do a certain amount
>> of body searches every shift.
>
> Actually, I'm quietly impressed by that.
It's around 10%. I had a happy time at Frankfurt one day walking
backwards and forwards through a machine to see how often it went off,
was 3 times in 20 passes, but I guess it's configurable. Surprised no
one stopped me, but being white, blonde and blue eyed, they probably
thought I was one of them. I'll try it with a tea towel on my head next
time.
I'm working on metal in shoes...
The Older Gentleman
> In article <f8ddb64a0ccbe81f...@blakeley.plus.com>, boots
> says...
> > On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:03:14 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, The Older
> > Gentleman says:
> >
> > >Iain Rae <ia...@dcs.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> he was nice
> > >> enough to admit that I'd not actually set off the detector, it was
> > >> programmed to go off on random "false positives" to make sure that the
> > >> staff were awake and to make sure that they got to do a certain amount
> > >> of body searches every shift.
> > >
> > >Actually, I'm quietly impressed by that.
> >
> > My understanding is that they also get a number of attempts made to
> > get 'something' through by other personnel testing the ability of the
> > existing security people..
>
> That definitely happens with the Chunnel, so sounds reasonable.
Happened to an Israeli guy I know, on an El Al flight. Security asked
him to try and smuggle a sword (!!!!!) past the metal detector guys, and
he managed it.
Beelzebub_on_Mac
To be fair to them, it's a hugely boring job and can you imagine
having to do that day in, day out? What they probably need is shorter
shifts.
I did a fair amount of x-ray work of a roughly similar type of thing
some years ago. Things never quite look the same and if they were to
query everything that looked suspicious (and wasn't), they'd be as
well just doing a hand search of everything.
<suddenly remembers one particularly embarrassing moment, having
luggage searched....>
Adrian
sounding much like they were saying:
>> > My understanding is that they also get a number of attempts made to
>> > get 'something' through by other personnel testing the ability of the
>> > existing security people..
>> That definitely happens with the Chunnel, so sounds reasonable.
> Happened to an Israeli guy I know, on an El Al flight. Security asked
> him to try and smuggle a sword (!!!!!) past the metal detector guys, and
> he managed it.
Champ
wrote:
>>>>Tell me, who has the 2 character IATA code U2? And who has the 3
>>>>character ICAO code BAW?
>>>
>>>slEazyJet and BA - but have you ever seen an EasyJet flight which was
>>>called as U2, or a BA flight called as a BAW flight number?
>>
>>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>>measurable criteria.
>
>In the travel biz there are three types of airline, scheduled, charter
>and private charters. Airlines which trade with 2 letter identifiers
>are scheduled and those which trade with three letter codes are
>charter. Therefore EZY is a charter flight and anyone who works in
>travel will agree.
You're on a wind-up, aren't you? Much like your chiming in with "the
police are speaking to people at Dover to check which bikes crossed
when" on the back of TOG's wind-up.
--
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk
Champ
<charlen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
><suddenly remembers one particularly embarrassing moment, having
>luggage searched....>
hah! I can imagine.
BGN
>>>No, but the fact remains that the difference between the 3 char and 3
>>>char codes is the difference between IATA and ICAO, and not between
>>>"scheduled" and "charter". Easyjet are not a charter airline by any
>>>measurable criteria.
>>
>>In the travel biz there are three types of airline, scheduled, charter
>>and private charters. Airlines which trade with 2 letter identifiers
>>are scheduled and those which trade with three letter codes are
>>charter. Therefore EZY is a charter flight and anyone who works in
>>travel will agree.
>
>You're on a wind-up, aren't you?
Really, call them. Every travel company I've worked for has referred
to them as Charter or Scheduled.
Look! <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_flight>
"In the context of mass tourism, charter flights have acquired the
more specific meaning of a flight whose sole function is to transport
holidaymakers to tourist destinations. Such charter flights are
contrasted with scheduled flights, but they do in fact operate to
regular, published schedules. However, tickets are not sold directly
by the charter airline to the passengers, but by holiday companies who
have chartered the flight (sometimes in a consortium with other
companies)."
>Much like your chiming in with "the
>police are speaking to people at Dover to check which bikes crossed
>when" on the back of TOG's wind-up.
I don't know what you mean, officer!
Champ
wrote:
>>You're on a wind-up, aren't you?
>
>Really, call them. Every travel company I've worked for has referred
>to them as Charter or Scheduled.
>
>Look! <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_flight>
>
>"In the context of mass tourism, charter flights have acquired the
>more specific meaning of a flight whose sole function is to transport
>holidaymakers to tourist destinations. Such charter flights are
>contrasted with scheduled flights, but they do in fact operate to
>regular, published schedules. However, tickets are not sold directly
>by the charter airline to the passengers, but by holiday companies who
>have chartered the flight (sometimes in a consortium with other
>companies)."
So, by the above definition, EasyJet wouldn't sell tickets to the
public.
>>Much like your chiming in with "the
>>police are speaking to people at Dover to check which bikes crossed
>>when" on the back of TOG's wind-up.
>
>I don't know what you mean, officer!
The prosecution rests.
BGN
>On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:32:19 +0100, BGN <nickm...@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>You're on a wind-up, aren't you?
>>
>>Really, call them. Every travel company I've worked for has referred
>>to them as Charter or Scheduled.
>>
>>Look! <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_flight>
>>
>>"In the context of mass tourism, charter flights have acquired the
>>more specific meaning of a flight whose sole function is to transport
>>holidaymakers to tourist destinations. Such charter flights are
>>contrasted with scheduled flights, but they do in fact operate to
>>regular, published schedules. However, tickets are not sold directly
>>by the charter airline to the passengers, but by holiday companies who
>>have chartered the flight (sometimes in a consortium with other
>>companies)."
>
>So, by the above definition, EasyJet wouldn't sell tickets to the
>public.
I see what you mean, EasyJet seem to be a bad example and are an
exception to the rule.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=14861428
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/70050
I've also checked with the head of our aviation team and she says "the
information you have given your friends is correct and a flight with a
3 digit code like EZY and scheduled 2 digit code like BA but EasyJet
is classed as a charter carrier but they operate a bus like service
daily which makes them an exception to the general rule. Charter
services are laid especially for package holidays."
So I am correct in saying TOM, TCX, FCA, MON are charters, as is EZY
but EasyJet are unique in selling their own flights to the great
unwashed which is generally only done by Scheduled charriers.
davethedave
> On Fri, 29 May 2009 00:18:54 -0700 (PDT), Beelzebub_on_Mac
> <charlen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>><suddenly remembers one particularly embarrassing moment, having luggage
>>searched....>
>
> hah! I can imagine.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/06/brum_airport_shocker/
Birmingham by any chance?
--
davethedave