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SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:03:36 PM12/22/09
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Awaiting damage report from the plod.

Gutted :-(

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SteveH

Wicked Uncle Nigel

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:05:24 PM12/22/09
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SteveH
<itali...@gmail.com> typed

>Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
>Gutted :-(

Bugger.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

can you see the light of need shinin' in my eye?

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:07:58 PM12/22/09
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Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SteveH
> <itali...@gmail.com> typed
> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> >Gutted :-(
>
> Bugger.

I rent a lockup in a slightly pikey area. However, said lockup had one
of these on it:

http://expertlocks.com/pic_library/prod/160_images_DBImages_400_SeriesMa
trixImage.jpg

and the usual kind of lock you get on roller-shutter doors.

It's located opposite a block of houses.

How someone got in and nicked it without waking up the whole street,
I'll never know.
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Nige

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:14:19 PM12/22/09
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"SteveH" <itali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Go round the local shops & ask around. Shopkeepers are superb, or grap a
scrote off the street.


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Champ

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:50:25 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
>Gutted :-(

Commiserations.

I'm currently doing the insurance claim Kansas City Shuffle, on three
different policies[1], which is as entertaining as you might imagine.

The replacement garage door and frame will have an interlocking
mechanism like this:
http://www.novoferm.co.uk/web/showImage.php?image_path=mediadatabase/10028.jpg

And probably somesort of ground anchor system to bolt the door to the
ground too.

[1] buildings, contents, motorcycle
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Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk

wessie

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:30:42 PM12/22/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote in news:1jb4y72.8luqtes58dj4N%
itali...@gmail.com:

> Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SteveH
>> <itali...@gmail.com> typed
>> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>> >
>> >Gutted :-(
>>
>> Bugger.
>

Fuck

> I rent a lockup in a slightly pikey area. However, said lockup had one
> of these on it:
>

Is it insured for theft or TPO?


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wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:34:50 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
> Gutted :-(

Well, that has to go down as the most effort expended to steal the
lowest value and slowest bike.

Photos of the garage / lockup:

http://www.italiancar.co.uk/shutter/shutter1.jpg

http://www.italiancar.co.uk/shutter/shutter2.jpg

http://www.italiancar.co.uk/shutter/shutter3.jpg

http://www.italiancar.co.uk/shutter/shutter4.jpg

So, they had a go at the lock and failed.

Then they took a cutter to the roller shutter and cut a 'door' out of
it.

Finally, they managed to exert so much force on the bottom of the door
they bent the 'bolt' thing in the ground so it came out of the holder
and managed to open the door.

How much effort for a bike worth �800-ish at trade?
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SteveH

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:35:23 PM12/22/09
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wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:

Fully comp.

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Tim

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:38:15 PM12/22/09
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In message <1jb4y1g.16175peh8m1zkN%itali...@gmail.com>, SteveH
<itali...@gmail.com> writes

>Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
>Gutted :-(
>
Arse.
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Tim

Nige

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:44:53 PM12/22/09
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"SteveH" <itali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Then they took a cutter to the roller shutter and cut a 'door' out of
> it.
>
> Finally, they managed to exert so much force on the bottom of the door
> they bent the 'bolt' thing in the ground so it came out of the holder
> and managed to open the door.
>
> How much effort for a bike worth �800-ish at trade?

Fuck me alive!


wessie

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:47:23 PM12/22/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote in news:1jb52ao.1jsl8bh1g630u3N%
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doesn't the insurer mind the bike being stored somewhere other than the
RK's address?

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:48:42 PM12/22/09
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wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:

> > Fully comp.
> >
>
> doesn't the insurer mind the bike being stored somewhere other than the
> RK's address?

No, it was all declared without any issues.

Apparently it's common on 'classic' policies - didn't even hit my
premium, even though, as we have now found, the garage was in a very
pikey area. (Cwmcarn, if you're interested)
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SteveH

Andy Bonwick

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:56:12 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
It'll be a write off.

>Gutted :-(

I'll bet you are, think of the money you'll have to spend on something
decent.

ogden

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:58:18 PM12/22/09
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
> wrote:
>
> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> It'll be a write off.
>
> >Gutted :-(
>
> I'll bet you are, think of the money you'll have to put toward something
> decent.

Post corrected.

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ogden

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:58:44 PM12/22/09
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Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
> wrote:
>
> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> It'll be a write off.

Well, I won't find out how much damage until tomorrow.



> >Gutted :-(
>
> I'll bet you are, think of the money you'll have to spend on something
> decent.

Cnut.

It's not worth a lot - although I have an agreed value of �1500 on it.

However - depending on damage, I'll probably fix it myself and not
claim, as a claim will bump up my classic car *and* bike policies for a
good few years.

On the other hand, if it's minimal damage and written off - it may well
make sense to buy back the salvage.
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SteveH

Marc

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:05:50 PM12/22/09
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SteveH wrote:
> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
> Gutted :-(
>
Bastards, cut their goolies off , stuff em down their throat so that you
can't hear the screams when you set fire to them!

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:05:52 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jesus. Some local scrote probably told his pikey mates: "There's a nice
Ducati in that lock-up and they assumed it was a 999 or something,
almost anything really, more valuable than an old 750SS.


--
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Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
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The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:05:51 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Pushed it round the corner to a waiting van.

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:05:52 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
> Gutted :-(

Aw bollocks.

Give you a monkey for the carcass ;-)

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:05:52 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On the other hand, if it's minimal damage and written off - it may well
> make sense to buy back the salvage.

Yes. A lot of second-hand old SS stuff is remarkably cheap on eBay.
Bodywork from any old 600 or 900 is the same, albeit the decals may
differ, and it might need a respray but Beav will take care of that.

Where was it found, then?

ginge

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:07:17 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:34:50 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:


>How much effort for a bike worth �800-ish at trade?

Someone will have said "there's a Ducati in that garage", chav
interprets that as "996".. and the rest is history.

Marc

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:10:02 PM12/22/09
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After 20 years of never selling a car ( till I got old and started
haveing boring cars) , 2 break ins to the house and literally dozens to
the factory(s) the one thing that still pisses me off is how little
fucking money the scrotes get compared with how much of a bill they
leave behind. Sometimes I have weakened and thought it might be better
to pay them protection, then I come to my senses and realise the best
way is to dig their heart out with a spoon!

wessie

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:20:24 PM12/22/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote in news:1jb52vb.hbfxs9819jkzN%
itali...@gmail.com:

that's a bit of a schlep from your place, hardly convenient for an
impulsive thrash

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:22:21 PM12/22/09
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > How someone got in and nicked it without waking up the whole street,
> > I'll never know.
>
> Pushed it round the corner to a waiting van.

That's the easy bit.

Cutting a feck-off great hole in a roller shutter might be considered a
tad noisy, though.
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SteveH

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:23:25 PM12/22/09
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, if it's minimal damage and written off - it may well
> > make sense to buy back the salvage.
>
> Yes. A lot of second-hand old SS stuff is remarkably cheap on eBay.
> Bodywork from any old 600 or 900 is the same, albeit the decals may
> differ, and it might need a respray but Beav will take care of that.
>
> Where was it found, then?

Don't have full details yet.

The police found it 'during a raid this morning'.
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SteveH

JackH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:25:46 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 9:03 am, italian...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
> Gutted :-(

Oops.

Any sign of other garages round there with damage, and when did you
last go up there?

Full report on where it was found / whether they caught the cunts
redhanded in due course, I presume?

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JackH

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:29:45 PM12/22/09
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JackH <jackha...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Dec 22, 9:03 am, italian...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
> > Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> > Gutted :-(
>
> Oops.
>
> Any sign of other garages round there with damage, and when did you
> last go up there?

Up there a few weeks back to collect the SO Alfa.

No damage to any other garages.



> Full report on where it was found / whether they caught the cunts
> redhanded in due course, I presume?

Hopefully more news tomorrow - but they recovered it during a raid on a
known scrote.


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SteveH

Andy Bonwick

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:32:37 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:23:25 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

So that was the first you knew of it being nicked?

Are you responsible for the repairs to the garage door? I'm just
wondering if you can hit the insurers for a better door when they
replace it (if it's insured) or if you've got to foot the bill for
yourself.

Good luck with getting it all sorted out.

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:35:39 PM12/22/09
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Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

> >Don't have full details yet.
> >
> >The police found it 'during a raid this morning'.
>
> So that was the first you knew of it being nicked?

Yup. Ran out of space in the garage at home, so rented somewhere a few
miles away.

> Are you responsible for the repairs to the garage door? I'm just
> wondering if you can hit the insurers for a better door when they
> replace it (if it's insured) or if you've got to foot the bill for
> yourself.

Well, I'm hoping the bloke I rent it off is responsible for the door -
but he'll not be getting any more than a month's notice from me now, as
I don't want to risk putting anything back in there.

> Good luck with getting it all sorted out.

Cheers.
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SteveH

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:35:54 PM12/22/09
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ginge <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

Ginge!

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:35:53 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Blimey. Might not be undamaged, then. You could be lucky.

Decades ago, a then mate had his Triumph 650 Tiger nicked. Plod went
round to some well-known lowlife's gaff and found it there, mostly
stripped. They hung onto it for evidence for 18 months, during which
time his insco lost patience and paid out, and he bought the salvage.

Which I then bought off him.

The joke was that he actually inherited, as it were, a Triumph and a
half, more or less. There was a huge pile of bits that hadn't actually
come from his bike. I wound up with two tanks, two seats, several side
panels, etc etc etc.

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:37:30 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yup. Ran out of space in the garage at home,

I know the feeling.

> so rented somewhere a few
> miles away.

Wasn't there something less desirable you could have shoved in there?
Katie, for instance ;-)

>
> > Are you responsible for the repairs to the garage door? I'm just
> > wondering if you can hit the insurers for a better door when they
> > replace it (if it's insured) or if you've got to foot the bill for
> > yourself.
>
> Well, I'm hoping the bloke I rent it off is responsible for the door -

He will be.

> but he'll not be getting any more than a month's notice from me now, as
> I don't want to risk putting anything back in there.

Yes, makes sense.

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:41:49 PM12/22/09
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yup. Ran out of space in the garage at home,
>
> I know the feeling.

I was on the verge of adding a Fiat Cinq. Sporting to the collection and
sticking it in the same garage as the bike(s).

Fortunately, the BMW was in the garage at home.

> > so rented somewhere a few
> > miles away.
>
> Wasn't there something less desirable you could have shoved in there?
> Katie, for instance ;-)

How much is it worth for me not to tell her you said that? ;-)



> > > Are you responsible for the repairs to the garage door? I'm just
> > > wondering if you can hit the insurers for a better door when they
> > > replace it (if it's insured) or if you've got to foot the bill for
> > > yourself.
> >
> > Well, I'm hoping the bloke I rent it off is responsible for the door -
>
> He will be.
>
> > but he'll not be getting any more than a month's notice from me now, as
> > I don't want to risk putting anything back in there.
>
> Yes, makes sense.

PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on the
cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even more pikey
areas.
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SteveH

wessie

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:43:43 PM12/22/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote in news:1jb551r.18rizzh1incyptN%
itali...@gmail.com:

As I said to Neal, there's space in my garage for 1 bike if you want
somewhere to put it over winter, if you get it back.

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:44:15 PM12/22/09
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)


> wrote:
>
> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> >Gutted :-(
>

> Commiserations.
>
> I'm currently doing the insurance claim Kansas City Shuffle, on three
> different policies[1], which is as entertaining as you might imagine.

I'm jinxed this month - first Katie's car needed a hugely expensive
warranty repair [1], and now this.

[1] 'Selespeed' flappy paddle gubbins went AWOL - would only select 1st
and 2nd gear. Alfa 'specialist' saw the words 'warranty' and hiked the
bill to a ridiculous extent - now I'm in the process of claiming back
the eye-watering cost from them. (It's one of those aftermarket
policies)
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SteveH

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:45:34 PM12/22/09
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wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:

> >> Good luck with getting it all sorted out.
> >
> > Cheers.
>
> As I said to Neal, there's space in my garage for 1 bike if you want
> somewhere to put it over winter, if you get it back.

Thanks for the offer. I can actually get it in the garage at home - but
it was more convenient (as in, you don't have to move bikes to get in
and out) to keep the bikes in a rented garage elsewhere.

I know you say it's not ideal for an impuse blat - but I tend to keep
one of the two at home most of the time.
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SteveH

c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:52:51 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>
> Gutted :-(

At least they recovered it before the bits made it to eBay.

--
03 GS500K2
76 Honda 400/4 project
68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic)
06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)

c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:57:22 PM12/22/09
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SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's the easy bit.
>
> Cutting a feck-off great hole in a roller shutter might be considered a
> tad noisy, though.

Oxyacelelene kit in the back of the van. Easy.
Our local Yamaha dealer lost his entire stock of new bikes one night.

Nige

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:00:51 PM12/22/09
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> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's the easy bit.
>>
>> Cutting a feck-off great hole in a roller shutter might be considered
>> a
>> tad noisy, though.
>
> Oxyacelelene kit in the back of the van. Easy.
> Our local Yamaha dealer lost his entire stock of new bikes one night.

Have you even looked at the pics?


Andy Bonwick

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:05:01 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:41:49 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip>

>> > but he'll not be getting any more than a month's notice from me now, as
>> > I don't want to risk putting anything back in there.
>>
>> Yes, makes sense.
>
>PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on the
>cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even more pikey
>areas.

If I were you I'd be more inclined to chain it solidly behind my house
and just use a decent cover to keep it dry. I'd feel a lot safer with
it close to home and outside than stuck a few miles away in a garage.

sweller

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:05:25 PM12/22/09
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SteveH wrote:

> > doesn't the insurer mind the bike being stored somewhere other than
> > the RK's address?
>
> No, it was all declared without any issues.

I've just bought a garage a five minute walk away, in a 'nice' and secure
area - buying was all a bit rushed for various reasons.

Mainly because I only noticed it was going to auction two days before it
actually went to auction. However, garages for sale that are actually
affordable are very rare in my part of Hove.

You know the advice is to view, get the legal position, building reports
and see an auction before you go to actually buy? Yeah, well fuck that.

I'm a little bit concerned about the length. I've been told it's 15'9"
and the car is 15'8". I hope their measurements are accurate as I
haven't got the keys yet.

I'll ask Champ what security he's been advised to get to save me doing
the research.

--
Simon

Ace

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:16:48 PM12/22/09
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Hehe. Two hits in two posts.

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:18:03 PM12/22/09
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Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

> >PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on the
> >cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even more pikey
> >areas.
>
> If I were you I'd be more inclined to chain it solidly behind my house
> and just use a decent cover to keep it dry. I'd feel a lot safer with
> it close to home and outside than stuck a few miles away in a garage.

I have one of those crap houses where you can only get to the back via
the garage - and the door at the end is too small.

Mind you, I have been thinking of having that enlarged.
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SteveH

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:23:05 PM12/22/09
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sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm a little bit concerned about the length. I've been told it's 15'9"
> and the car is 15'8".

"Back a bit... a bit more... another foot..."

*CRUNCH*

"Stop."

Ace

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:30:06 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec 2009 20:05:25 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:


>I'm a little bit concerned about the length. I've been told it's 15'9"
>and the car is 15'8".

I had that problem with an XJS when I was living in Milton Kenyes. It
would actually fit, but with bare inches to spare, and only if you
didn't want to open the wall-side door once it was in. Best of luck.

sweller

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:59:17 PM12/22/09
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Ace wrote:

> > I'm a little bit concerned about the length. I've been told it's
> > 15'9" and the car is 15'8".
>
> I had that problem with an XJS when I was living in Milton Kenyes. It
> would actually fit, but with bare inches to spare, and only if you
> didn't want to open the wall-side door once it was in. Best of luck.

The width shouldn't be too much of a problem but some strategically
placed softboard on the walls to prevent accidental door and front bumper
scrapes just in case...

--
Simon

sweller

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:00:45 PM12/22/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> > I'm a little bit concerned about the length. I've been told it's
> > 15'9" and the car is 15'8".
>
> "Back a bit... a bit more... another foot..."
>

> CRUNCH
>
> "Stop."

I intend to put some front bumper height softboard on the wall to ease
the car against. I just hope I can get the garage door shut...

--
Simon

Catman

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:06:57 PM12/22/09
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One of the garages I rented would take the Giulietta. Except if you
drove it all the way in, you couldn't get out cos of the brick pillar. I
had to drive in part way, get out, then push it in the rest of the way.

Tricky to get out as well.

Now it lives in a container.

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SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:10:48 PM12/22/09
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Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

> Now it lives in a container.

I've been considering this solution - buy a cheap plot of land locally
and stick a couple of short containers on it.

However, I've experienced significant amounts of condensation in
containers during cold weather - have you had any issues?
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Nige

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:10:55 PM12/22/09
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"Catman" <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> One of the garages I rented would take the Giulietta. Except if you
> drove it all the way in, you couldn't get out cos of the brick pillar.
> I had to drive in part way, get out, then push it in the rest of the
> way.
>
> Tricky to get out as well.
>
> Now it lives in a container.

Did you number the bricks?


c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:12:03 PM12/22/09
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sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I intend to put some front bumper height softboard on the wall to ease
> the car against. I just hope I can get the garage door shut...

Hang a tennis ball on a piece of string such that it touches the
windscreen at the appropriate point.

c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:19:04 PM12/22/09
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No, I was merely commenting that there is a non-noisy way which is known
to the more experienced thief.

OTOH, it probably does not matter.
A few yonks ago a friend rented a small industrial unit from the local
council but there were no keys. We turned up in the day on a busy
trading estate, took a generator off the van, attacked the "secure"
padlocks with an angle grinder and opened the place up.
Nobody even asked what we were doing.

Pip Luscher

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:22:38 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec 2009 21:00:45 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

Easy. Just fit a door with a power bulge.

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doetnietcomputeren

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:22:43 PM12/22/09
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On 2009-12-22 22:10:48 +0100, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) said:

> Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Now it lives in a container.
>
> I've been considering this solution - buy a cheap plot of land locally
> and stick a couple of short containers on it.

Containers themselves are not cheap. They're also pretty easy to break
into. Yes you can put a big FOAD lock through the handles, but it's
pretty easy to chop through the door hinges. Been on the receiving end
of that several times.


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SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:27:15 PM12/22/09
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doetnietcomputeren <doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Didn't know about the hinges - we have the type which have a couple of
loops for a sturdy padlock 'boxed in' with some seriously thick steel.

From what I've seen, containers and land are cheaper than buying a
garage, though.
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doetnietcomputeren

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:39:29 PM12/22/09
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On 2009-12-22 22:27:15 +0100, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) said:

>>>> Now it lives in a container.
>>>
>>> I've been considering this solution - buy a cheap plot of land locally
>>> and stick a couple of short containers on it.
>>
>> Containers themselves are not cheap. They're also pretty easy to break
>> into. Yes you can put a big FOAD lock through the handles, but it's
>> pretty easy to chop through the door hinges. Been on the receiving end
>> of that several times.
>
> Didn't know about the hinges - we have the type which have a couple of
> loops for a sturdy padlock 'boxed in' with some seriously thick steel.

After a spate of break-ins, we moved to using custom made bolt/hasp
mechanisms which required a mathcing tool to open. There were 4 tools,
one each in Chicago and LA, one in the European site and one with the
forwarder in case Customs needed access.

Some scrotes tried to break into one, failed, but did enough damage
that I had to set about it witha cutting disk. Well, severa disks to be
truthful. I seem to recall it took almost 2 hours to get though it.

> From what I've seen, containers and land are cheaper than buying a
> garage, though.

I'm surprised you can pick up land that cheap, but I guess you are in
Wales. What's it like getting insurance for said storage?

--
Dnc

SteveH

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:43:01 PM12/22/09
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doetnietcomputeren <doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > From what I've seen, containers and land are cheaper than buying a
> > garage, though.
>
> I'm surprised you can pick up land that cheap, but I guess you are in
> Wales. What's it like getting insurance for said storage?

No idea - not asked.

There is land in abundance around here, just not many garages.

Garages in modern houses are shite, and I can't work out why you can't
buy 3 bed houses with double garages.

Although most of my neighbours are (or have) converted the garage to a
2nd lounge - so that probably answers my question above.
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Dec 22, 2009, 4:43:08 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:03:36 +0000, SteveH wrote:

> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>

Bugger

> Gutted :-(

Is this the chavs on a pre-xmas shopping trip, thats 2 in a week.


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The Older Gentleman

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:46:54 PM12/22/09
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doetnietcomputeren <doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm surprised you can pick up land that cheap, but I guess you are in
> Wales. What's it like getting insurance for said storage?

Just steal it.....

doetnietcomputeren

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:57:00 PM12/22/09
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On 2009-12-22 22:43:01 +0100, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) said:

>>> From what I've seen, containers and land are cheaper than buying a
>>> garage, though.
>>
>> I'm surprised you can pick up land that cheap, but I guess you are in
>> Wales. What's it like getting insurance for said storage?
>
> No idea - not asked.
>
> There is land in abundance around here, just not many garages.

I'd be looking to find apiece of land that I could get planning
permission to build garages on.

> Garages in modern houses are shite, and I can't work out why you can't
> buy 3 bed houses with double garages.

Because double/triple garages weren't necessary until 'recently'.


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Pete Murray

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Dec 22, 2009, 5:37:28 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:18:03 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>Mind you, I have been thinking of having that enlarged.

Leave a Ducati in the garage and the local scrotes will do it for you
for free.
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KLE650

Lozzo

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Dec 22, 2009, 8:01:13 PM12/22/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Decades ago, a then mate had his Triumph 650 Tiger nicked. Plod went
> round to some well-known lowlife's gaff and found it there, mostly
> stripped. They hung onto it for evidence for 18 months, during which
> time his insco lost patience and paid out, and he bought the salvage.
>
> Which I then bought off him.
>
> The joke was that he actually inherited, as it were, a Triumph and a
> half, more or less. There was a huge pile of bits that hadn't actually
> come from his bike. I wound up with two tanks, two seats, several side
> panels, etc etc etc.

My ex-missus had her Yamaha Passola shopping scooter nicked from behind
the Nurses home flats in Norwich way back in 1992. We reported it
stolen but weren't able to claim because it had no MOT or tax and
wasn't insured. Even if it was road legal the excess would have been
four times what the value of the bike was because it was a fucking shed
of a machine that had been abused and neglected every day my ex had
used it.

Three years later my sister in law calls me to say there's a letter
from DVLC for me at her house, which is where I'd registered the
Passola in my name for some reason; turns out someone was applying for
a reg document for it. I immediately contacted the DVLA and the local
police to say it was my bike and I wanted it back. Local plod were very
helpful and so were DVLA. Within two days I had an address in Kings
Lynn where the bike was. So I borrowed the works van and went out to
collect it.

When I got there the moped the guy pulled out of his shed was an
immaculate example of a Passola, so totally unlike the one that had
been nicked from us, but it had the right engine and frame number, so
in the van it went. Turns out the guy with the bike had bought it from
a local lad who 'did little bikes up'. He got arrested for the theft
after police raided his home and a lock up and found both places
crammed with nicked bikes. There were three Passolas making ours up,
but luckily for me they'd only used the engine and frame off ours,
everything else came off two very nice condition ones.

That little Passola is still going, I see it every now and then running
between town and the village my mum lives in.

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Catman

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:58:34 AM12/23/09
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Hmm, TBAH I've not been up there for about 18 months. Thanks for giving
me something to worry about ;)

Catman

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:58:56 AM12/23/09
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Yes. In groups of 5 for crn.

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:15:22 AM12/23/09
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Lozzo <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

<Snip tale of justice done eventually>

> That little Passola is still going, I see it every now and then running
> between town and the village my mum lives in.

My enduring memory of that model is of the local dealer who told me he
was being ear-bashed by some owner who thought it was running wrong when
it wasn't (reckoned it should go faster), and handed it back to him with
a piece of gaffer tape obscuring the P' on the badge.

Cab

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:34:52 AM12/23/09
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On Dec 22, 10:00 pm, "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I intend to put some front bumper height softboard on the wall to ease
> the car against.  I just hope I can get the garage door shut...

I've got an old piece of plasterboard for exactly the same reason
(polystyrene face out) for when I back the Audi into the garage as the
reversing beeper (dunno what you call it in English) always goes to
the constant tone with at least 20cm space.

Works a treat.

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Scraggy

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:53:23 AM12/23/09
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Zee reverrsing beepair.

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members. Groucho Marx


Pip

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:53:27 AM12/23/09
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In article <1jb51iv.8ds1ok1mzg77wN%itali...@gmail.com>, SteveH says...

>
> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Awaiting damage report from the plod.
> >
> > Gutted :-(

<sympathises>
>
> Well, that has to go down as the most effort expended to steal the
> lowest value and slowest bike.

> So, they had a go at the lock and failed.
>
> Then they took a cutter to the roller shutter and cut a 'door' out of
> it.
>
> Finally, they managed to exert so much force on the bottom of the door
> they bent the 'bolt' thing in the ground so it came out of the holder
> and managed to open the door.

Well, that was neither quick or quiet, was it. Somebody must have seen
them at it, ffs.

--

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Nige

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:19:42 AM12/23/09
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"Pip" <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.259beae46...@News.Individual.NET...

> In article <1jb51iv.8ds1ok1mzg77wN%itali...@gmail.com>, SteveH
> says...
>>

> Well, that was neither quick or quiet, was it. Somebody must have

> seen
> them at it, ffs.
>

Pretty obvious they live nearby.

Get some big blokes knocking on local doors.


Beav

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:52:44 AM12/23/09
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"SteveH" <itali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SteveH
>> <itali...@gmail.com> typed

>> >Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>> >
>> >Gutted :-(
>>
>> Bugger.
>
> I rent a lockup in a slightly pikey area. However, said lockup had one
> of these on it:
>
> http://expertlocks.com/pic_library/prod/160_images_DBImages_400_SeriesMa
> trixImage.jpg
>
> and the usual kind of lock you get on roller-shutter doors.
>
> It's located opposite a block of houses.
>
> How someone got in and nicked it without waking up the whole street,
> I'll never know.

They probably did wake up, but turned over and went back to sleep.


--
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Pete M

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:51:36 AM12/23/09
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Pip wrote:
> In article <1jb51iv.8ds1ok1mzg77wN%itali...@gmail.com>, SteveH says...
>> SteveH <itali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Awaiting damage report from the plod.
>>>
>>> Gutted :-(

> Well, that was neither quick or quiet, was it. Somebody must have seen
> them at it, ffs.
>
Those roller shutter doors are hopeless against attack from a petrol
whizzer. More often than not scrotes don't care how much noise they make
because they'll be through the door in a few minutes and there aren't
many people who'll challenge a gang of scrotes with a whizzer.

I'm surprised they bothered messing about with the lock, not much point
when the door offers as much resistance as butter.

--
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'78 Escort 1300 Sport
'99 Audi A6 V6 Quattro Avant


"It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your
Alfa experience be different from everyone else's.
Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks."

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:09:17 PM12/23/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Cab <ros...@gmail.com> saying
something like:

>for when I back the Audi into the garage as the
>reversing beeper (dunno what you call it in English)

Vichy.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:12:26 PM12/23/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
saying something like:

>> Now it lives in a container.
>
>I've been considering this solution - buy a cheap plot of land locally
>and stick a couple of short containers on it.
>
>However, I've experienced significant amounts of condensation in
>containers during cold weather - have you had any issues?

Insulation, insulation, insulation. Cheap as chips, too.
I've been looking at similar for my excess car storage while I work on
the building - ideas abound.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:14:11 PM12/23/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
saying something like:

>


>Although most of my neighbours are (or have) converted the garage to a
>2nd lounge - so that probably answers my question above.

Conversely, in my ShiteOldTerrace I was seriously considering converting
the front room to a garage. Tickled I was recently to see somebody had
done just that.

Cab

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:50:06 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 9:53 am, "Scraggy" <scra...@abuseisgoodforyou.org.be>
wrote:

> Cab wrote:
> > On Dec 22, 10:00 pm, "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I intend to put some front bumper height softboard on the wall to
> >> ease the car against. I just hope I can get the garage door shut...
>
> > I've got an old piece of plasterboard for exactly the same reason
> > (polystyrene face out) for when I back the Audi into the garage as the
> > reversing beeper (dunno what you call it in English) always goes to
> > the constant tone with at least 20cm space.
>
> Zee reverrsing beepair.
>

Heh, useful bloody answer.

BTW, got your messenger URL later last night. Daft bugger.

--
Cab

vulgarandmischevious

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Dec 24, 2009, 2:31:00 AM12/24/09
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doetnietcomputeren <doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Because double/triple garages weren't necessary until 'recently'.

Christ, I don't know if I could live with anything less. I'm
considering building a two-car detatched garage in the back garden,
too.

vulgarandmischevious

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Dec 24, 2009, 2:34:00 AM12/24/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:

>PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on the
>cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even more pikey

Seriously, as vehicles are a big part of your life, can't you just
move to a house with a double garage?

Lozzo

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:00:12 AM12/24/09
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vulgarandmischevious wrote:

A single garage will accomodate at least 7 motorcycles. In my old place
the garage was slightly wider than average and I had 9 packed in there
at one point, with a workbench, toolchests, filing cabinet and a huge
amount of other junk.

This wasn't anywhere near as packed as I had it at times.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/78131584@N00/1506948115/sizes/l/

doetnietcomputeren

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:27:08 AM12/24/09
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On 2009-12-24 09:00:12 +0100, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> said:

>>> PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on
>>> the cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even
>>> more pikey
>>
>> Seriously, as vehicles are a big part of your life, can't you just
>> move to a house with a double garage?
>
> A single garage will accomodate at least 7 motorcycles. In my old place
> the garage was slightly wider than average and I had 9 packed in there
> at one point, with a workbench, toolchests, filing cabinet and a huge
> amount of other junk.
>
> This wasn't anywhere near as packed as I had it at times.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78131584@N00/1506948115/sizes/l/

The point that most brits miss, is that in Merkia, garages are almost
always *much* bigger than the space required by the actual vehicles.
This is because a garage is not seen merely as a storage area, but
often as a workshop too. In many cases they're often a thing of beauty,
rather than just a dirty dumping ground.

I'd go nuts trying to do anything in the garage in the photo you posted.

--
Dnc

ginge

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:31:12 AM12/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:27:08 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The point that most brits miss, is that in Merkia, garages are almost
>always *much* bigger than the space required by the actual vehicles.
>This is because a garage is not seen merely as a storage area, but
>often as a workshop too. In many cases they're often a thing of beauty,
>rather than just a dirty dumping ground.

And the cost of land is far lower.

doetnietcomputeren

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:40:49 AM12/24/09
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On 2009-12-24 10:31:12 +0100, ginge <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> said:

>> The point that most brits miss, is that in Merkia, garages are almost
>> always *much* bigger than the space required by the actual vehicles.
>> This is because a garage is not seen merely as a storage area, but
>> often as a workshop too. In many cases they're often a thing of beauty,
>> rather than just a dirty dumping ground.
>
> And the cost of land is far lower.

On average perhaps - but not where I was.

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The Older Gentleman

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:54:11 AM12/24/09
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Lozzo <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

> A single garage will accomodate at least 7 motorcycles. In my old place
> the garage was slightly wider than average and I had 9 packed in there
> at one point, with a workbench, toolchests, filing cabinet and a huge
> amount of other junk.

I've got five motorcycles in my single garage, plus a workbench, storage
shelves, a big stack of plastic crates containing bits, four bicycles, a
Workmate and oher assorted stuff.

>
> This wasn't anywhere near as packed as I had it at times.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78131584@N00/1506948115/sizes/l/

Loadsa room.

Pete Fisher

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:09:34 AM12/24/09
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In communiqu� <1jb82no.cm6gmw10jabr4N%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk>,
The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> cast forth these
pearls of wisdom

>Lozzo <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> A single garage will accomodate at least 7 motorcycles. In my old place
>> the garage was slightly wider than average and I had 9 packed in there
>> at one point, with a workbench, toolchests, filing cabinet and a huge
>> amount of other junk.
>
>I've got five motorcycles in my single garage, plus a workbench, storage
>shelves, a big stack of plastic crates containing bits, four bicycles, a
>Workmate and oher assorted stuff.
>
>>
>> This wasn't anywhere near as packed as I had it at times.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78131584@N00/1506948115/sizes/l/
>
>Loadsa room.
>
>

The great de-clutter has reduced the count to five in the garage and two
in the shed.

At least I can work reasonably comfortably on the YZs now they are
perched on paddock stands right at the front. Before, it was like one of
those sliding letter word puzzles to get easy access all round a bike.

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Ace

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:43:47 AM12/24/09
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Not so much a 'garage' as a long-term storage facility, though, in
your case.

Ace

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:46:08 AM12/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:27:08 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2009-12-24 09:00:12 +0100, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> said:
>
>>>> PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on
>>>> the cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even
>>>> more pikey
>>>
>>> Seriously, as vehicles are a big part of your life, can't you just
>>> move to a house with a double garage?
>>
>> A single garage will accomodate at least 7 motorcycles. In my old place
>> the garage was slightly wider than average and I had 9 packed in there
>> at one point, with a workbench, toolchests, filing cabinet and a huge
>> amount of other junk.

>The point that most brits miss, is that in Merkia, garages are almost

>always *much* bigger than the space required by the actual vehicles.

Not in Ben's case. His Boxster and MGB, Gixxer and KTM?, together with
K's A4 quattro, almost entirely fill their double garage.

Oh, I see what you mean.

Andy Bonwick

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:44:31 AM12/24/09
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Fucks sake, where's he supposed to move to this time?

He moved to S.Wales so he could buy a better house for his money so
the only option left is to move north and even Steve has some
standards.

SteveH

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:42:56 AM12/24/09
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vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

But that means spending �100k on a house twice as big as I need (which
would involve morgages and stuff, which I don't want to do again).

I'm investigating plots of land and container based storage now.
--
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sweller

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:44:32 AM12/24/09
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SteveH wrote:

> I'm investigating plots of land and container based storage now.

Have you seen the bike yet - repairable?

--
Simon

ginge

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:50:06 AM12/24/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:42:56 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>But that means spending �100k on a house twice as big as I need (which
>would involve morgages and stuff, which I don't want to do again).

The real solution these days seems to get a house built from scratch.
My wish list includes detached, cellar, double garage with space for a
workshop, large kitchen, and a ground floor study/office, but I only
really want 2 or 3 bedrooms. nobody builds houses like that.

vulgarandmischevious

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:49:09 AM12/24/09
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itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:

>vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> itali...@gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
>>
>> >PITA, though - took me ages to find these 2 garages. Time to get on the
>> >cahnsil waiting list - although I suspect they'll be in even more pikey
>>
>> Seriously, as vehicles are a big part of your life, can't you just
>> move to a house with a double garage?
>
>But that means spending �100k on a house twice as big as I need (which
>would involve morgages and stuff, which I don't want to do again).

Yeah, but the whole point of your house is to provide you the facility
to do what you want. In your case, that's to have a lot of vehicles
around. That's worth it, surely...

>I'm investigating plots of land and container based storage now.

...not least because the alternative is so much fucking hassle.

SteveH

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:53:42 AM12/24/09
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ginge <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

*ding*

I'm really happy with our house - aside from the garage arrangements.
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Krusty

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:03:18 AM12/24/09
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ginge wrote:

You've just described my house. Well apart from the cellar. And I
haven't built the garage/workshop yet (but have got the Type 1 down
ready for it).

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vulgarandmischevious

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:07:34 AM12/24/09
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ginge <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

That's exactly what I have. Only with four bedrooms. And two sitting
rooms. And two dining rooms. And a three-car garage. For about 200k
sterling.

Catman

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:11:55 AM12/24/09
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You are so right. We are in the same boat with similar wish list.
Either a farm or self build are on our future plans.

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Catman

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:12:37 AM12/24/09
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Yeah, but *where*?

ginge

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:14:05 AM12/24/09
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If I could get that kind of deal over here I'd rip someones arm off.

sweller

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:15:36 AM12/24/09
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Catman wrote:

> You are so right. We are in the same boat with similar wish list.
> Either a farm or self build are on our future plans.

I'm quite keen on a small holding in Northumberland or Caithness and keep
alpacas and bees.

Unfortunately, alpacas don't like the wet and it may be too windy for
bees. Sounds like a great plan.

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The Older Gentleman

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:24:34 AM12/24/09
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sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm quite keen on a small holding in Northumberland or Caithness and keep
> alpacas and bees.
>
> Unfortunately, alpacas don't like the wet and it may be too windy for
> bees. Sounds like a great plan.

The Doctor wants to keep alpacas in Chile. And bees.

Wicked Uncle Nigel

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:25:45 AM12/24/09
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, sweller
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> typed

>Catman wrote:
>
>> You are so right. We are in the same boat with similar wish list.
>> Either a farm or self build are on our future plans.
>
>I'm quite keen on a small holding in Northumberland or Caithness and keep
>alpacas and bees.

<VoBE>

Make damned sure you don't react to bee stings first. Alpaca bites I
know nothing of.

</VoBE>

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