After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
condolences.
--
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> I started to get coloured fractal images on the right of my vision today
> and within an hour it was a banging headache, face numb on the left,
> couldn't make out words, slurred speech and couldn't even remember the
> names of my colleagues. The hospital here reckoned TIA, I had one 15
> years ago, and had me over to A&E.
>
> After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
> migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
> after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
> Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
What sort of 'stuff'? Therein might lie a clue or three.
> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
> condolences.
A very, very bad one though. If you get an aura or not (that's the
coloured fractal thing) is personal/depends but it is a typical migraine
symptom. Banging headache, well, yes. Any nausea? Sensitivity to light
or sound?
It's not inconceivable that it was indeed a migraine. I'd go see a quack
who knows about them pronto, even if it's just for some emergency
medication that'll save you from acting/feeling like a stroke victim.
In the longer run if you get more of them, you *have* to find out what
the trigger is. Migraines usually don't come out of the blue and you can
often tie them to certain foods, weather changes (does it for me -
remind me again why I live in the UK?), seeing offensively fat people or
whatever.
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Yep, banging's the word for them. What you experienced beforehand was the
aura. Mine are usually so bad I can't even see the computer screen, let
alone do anything like drive. Check Wiki for an explanation.
I always thought that you couldn't 'have a migraine' like you 'have a
headache' I thought people either were or weren't susceptible to migraine.
Maybe you're just starting. Are you under stress? Also check for trigger
food types (Wiki again).
I take beta-blockers during clusters of attacks and carry Zolmitriptan in
the event of a real humdinger.
--
R.
I don't know/can't remember. All a bit of a blurr
>> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
>> condolences.
>
> A very, very bad one though. If you get an aura or not (that's the
> coloured fractal thing) is personal/depends but it is a typical
> migraine symptom. Banging headache, well, yes. Any nausea?
> Sensitivity to light or sound?
Nausea and light yes. They dimmed the lights and gave a syringe of
something in my arse.
>In the longer run if you get more of them, you *have* to find out what
>the trigger is. Migraines usually don't come out of the blue and you can
>often tie them to certain foods, weather changes (does it for me -
>remind me again why I live in the UK?), seeing offensively fat people
That'd be a problem for a regular UKRM'er
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Lack of food perhaps (sugar mong) and shock perhaps.
Son of 9 disappeared for an hour after school yesterday and everyone
from PSNI to Grandparents were out before he was found. On the end of a
phone in England I was somewhat stressed.
Check, although other side
> and within an hour it was a banging headache,
Check
> face numb on the left,
> couldn't make out words,
Hmm
> slurred speech and couldn't even remember the
> names of my colleagues.
Hmm again.
> The hospital here reckoned TIA, I had one 15
> years ago, and had me over to A&E.
>
> After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
> migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
> after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
> Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
>
> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
> condolences.
>
Well, I would get yourself checked out properly. The numbness and memory
'loss' are new to me. The rest really do make it sound like a migraine
though.
And yes, they suck.
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> Timo Geusch wrote:
>> "'Hog" <sm91...@hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> I started to get coloured fractal images on the right of my vision
>>> today and within an hour it was a banging headache, face numb on the
>>> left, couldn't make out words, slurred speech and couldn't even
>>> remember the names of my colleagues. The hospital here reckoned
>>> TIA, I had one 15 years ago, and had me over to A&E.
>>>
>>> After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
>>> migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself
>>> anyway after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those
>>> symptoms look the Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers
>>> on the NG.
>>
>> What sort of 'stuff'? Therein might lie a clue or three.
>
> I don't know/can't remember. All a bit of a blurr
Try to find out what it was if you can. *Especially* if it worked.
>>> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
>>> condolences.
>>
>> A very, very bad one though. If you get an aura or not (that's the
>> coloured fractal thing) is personal/depends but it is a typical
>> migraine symptom. Banging headache, well, yes. Any nausea?
>> Sensitivity to light or sound?
>
> Nausea and light yes. They dimmed the lights and gave a syringe of
> something in my arse.
I think that's probably evidence enough of a migraine that you might
want to go see a doctor about this. You've seem to have had a lot of
typical symptoms and then some.
snip>
>Nausea and light yes. They dimmed the lights and gave a syringe of
>something in my arse.
Are you sure you were at a hospital?
Tee-hee!
--
R.
Surely that would have caused discomfort at the other end of your torso?
>After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
>migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
>after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
>Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
Sounds about right. I've had 3 of them now.
>If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
>condolences.
Cheaper than a kaleidoscope!
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This is Hog we're talking about. Have you ever tried to have a straight
conversation with the bloke? He's the consumate stroke victim.
--
ogden
I suffer from them occasionally and usually, though not always, when
under stress. The first time I suffered, was when I awoke and that was
a really colourful experience. Moving brightly coloured psycodelic
(sp?) shapes and it affected vision of both eyes - very frightening at
the time and it lasted for several minutes.
Since then I have suffered with with varying regularity, the greater
the stress the more frequent, but of a different sort since the first
attack. I now get an inability to see in some sections of my vision and
what I would describe as a semi transparent 'lamp filament' shape, as
in the shape is quite blurred and wonders across my vision. I also get
an odd feel of being a little distant from my surroundings.
It develops slowly, I recognise the early onset and just find somewhere
to sit quietly out of the way for 20 minutes, while it subsides. I'm
fairly useless during an attack anyway, because I cannot see very much.
I never suffer any headaches at all - which is the part which had me
fooled for a long time.
I had no idea for a long time, what I was actually suffering from. My
grand daughter actually diagnosed it and gave it a name, which then
enabled me to compare the symptoms to migrain and it matched.
Some people suggest the best thing during an attack is to find a
darkened room. I find it makes no difference to my form of migrain.
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Ex-SWMBO suffered very badly from them. She got pretty much the
symptoms you describe, the bad ones started with peripheral vision
disappearing, then moved on to pins and needles in the extremities,
closely followed by losing the power to speak, tunnel vision, vomiting,
general confusion, lack of motor skills etc.
When we met, she was on Voltarol[0] suppositories, but after they ran
out, she went to the doc and was told there was fabulous new meds[1],
which turned out to be the absolute business, if taken promptly they
meant she felt quite shit for a few hours, but was back up and running
by the next day[2]
[0] I was once told this was a painkiller used in horses, although that
may be, aptly, horseshit
[1] Unfortunately, can't remember the name, this was 2003, but if you go
speak to the doc, they should be able to help. Voltarol is simply a
painkiller, the ones you want are those which expand the blood vessels
in the brain, as IIRC that's what causes it, lack of bloodflow around
the grey matter.
[2] The first one of hers I experienced was 2.5 days of her unable to
speak, which scared me shitless, although it was one of the worst she'd had
--
D
The most obvious and most disabling symptom I suffer is the visual
disturbance, but I also suffer extremely mild versions of the other
symptoms you mention. I'm also told my speech becomes a little slurred.
havent had one in few yrs. Peripheral vision goes black accompanied by
vertigo. About half hour later, pain and nausia, light and sound
sensitivity, cant really talk, disorientation/confusion, hand eye
coordination is impaired. lasts 3-15hrs. A balls of a racket. [1]
Over the years i figured out the trigger, for me, wasnt peaks of
stress/emotional duress but shortly after the release or relief from
them. It was exams that showed me the pattern (despite not really
considering myself stressed at the time). Actually post-stress isnt
the best word for my trigger, post-anxiety is. This tallies rather
well with the day you had. In fact, if i had had such a day, i would
be expecting it shortly after The Lad was located and i calmed down.
Thus i learned that at the early onset of the aura bit, i could think
of something [2] that made me anxious or afraid, and focus on it to
the point that you actually felt nervy in the stomach, and aura would
recede, no migraine. No prescribed pills ever worked for me, but i did
give up trying, cos probability of being organised enough to have
pills on me person at time of need seemed remote.
[1] Welcome to the club of those that would merrily strangle any fish
gilled bags that holds their temple and breezily says "oh, i've got a
migraine" Utter cunts.
[2] As life goes on, the palette in the imagination of such harrowing
prospects, ever broadens
I don't suffer from migraines, but that has been the pattern for me
getting ill for the the past 20 years or so
--
D
Classic symptoms mate, classic.
>
>After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
>migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
>after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
>Usual Suspects?
They do but they are also symptomatic of a lack of blows jobs with a cup
of tea in bed of a Sunday morning.
>I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
>
>If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
>condolences.
It is sometimes treated with mind altering drugs so could be considered
a boon by some.
>
--
steve auvache
Vision disturbances for anything up to a couple of hours before as
described by HoG and others for me. Followed by not very much of a
headache at all really. Mine is said to be associated with eye strain.
--
steve auvache
Same here, mostly. Particularly with migraines.
Ha! you rotter
--
Hog
I am?!!
--
Hog
The first thing I thought when the coloured fractal patters appeared was
"Acid Flashback".
It's quite given me a notion ;o)
--
Hog
> havent had one in few yrs. Peripheral vision goes black accompanied by
> vertigo. About half hour later, pain and nausia, light and sound
> sensitivity, cant really talk, disorientation/confusion, hand eye
> coordination is impaired. lasts 3-15hrs. A balls of a racket. [1]
> Over the years i figured out the trigger, for me, wasnt peaks of
> stress/emotional duress but shortly after the release or relief from
> them. It was exams that showed me the pattern (despite not really
> considering myself stressed at the time). Actually post-stress isnt
> the best word for my trigger, post-anxiety is. This tallies rather
> well with the day you had. In fact, if i had had such a day, i would
> be expecting it shortly after The Lad was located and i calmed down.
> Thus i learned that at the early onset of the aura bit, i could think
> of something [2] that made me anxious or afraid, and focus on it to
> the point that you actually felt nervy in the stomach, and aura would
> recede, no migraine. No prescribed pills ever worked for me, but i did
> give up trying, cos probability of being organised enough to have
> pills on me person at time of need seemed remote.
>
> [1] Welcome to the club of those that would merrily strangle any fish
> gilled bags that holds their temple and breezily says "oh, i've got a
> migraine" Utter cunts.
> [2] As life goes on, the palette in the imagination of such harrowing
> prospects, ever broadens
Well thanks to everyone for the recollections and comparisons and advice.
It seems to be the culprit.
Oh what a shame, Friday in bed with ice packs and hot tea, waiting for nurse
to call in later.
<gets on form>
Not an NHS nurse obviously.
They don't wear the right uniform and underwear any more.
--
Hog
> Not an NHS nurse obviously.
> They don't wear the right uniform and underwear any more.
Like this?
http://www.advertiser.ie/images/2009/07//14694_thumb.jpg
--
Chris
I've not had a migraine since my teenage years, which is something I'm
really keen to be a hard and fast rule, I've heard that you *can* 'grow
out of them' which would be lovely.
It's amazing what feelings of rage the slackjawed wankers who 'get on
with life' regardless of their 'migraine' can cause, I can't think of
any method to get them to experience one though, aside from a load of
LSD and a truck parked on their face.
I'm curious how many migraine sufferers also experience synaesthesia. I
generally experience synaesthesia as if it were a sudden and profound
memory, as if I don't directly see colours, but aquire a memory of
having seen then a second ago. The point is that many of the migraine
aura I've had are as if I can directly SEE the things that usually
arrive as a memory. Then three days of shards of glass in my head, yum.
You know *very* well her breasts are too big
--
Hog
> I've not had a migraine since my teenage years, which is something I'm
> really keen to be a hard and fast rule, I've heard that you *can*
> 'grow out of them' which would be lovely.
>
> It's amazing what feelings of rage the slackjawed wankers who 'get on
> with life' regardless of their 'migraine' can cause, I can't think of
> any method to get them to experience one though, aside from a load of
> LSD and a truck parked on their face.
My ex wife had them regularly. She said gleefully this morning... see SEE
> I'm curious how many migraine sufferers also experience synaesthesia.
> I generally experience synaesthesia as if it were a sudden and
> profound memory, as if I don't directly see colours, but aquire a
> memory of having seen then a second ago. The point is that many of
> the migraine aura I've had are as if I can directly SEE the things
> that usually arrive as a memory. Then three days of shards of glass
> in my head, yum.
I've always thought it a fascinating condition. If you could refine a
version of LSD that incorporated a similar effect it would go down a storm.
--
Hog
On which note,
http://www.redpepper.ug/details.php?item=1112&&CatId=1
--
ogden
Oddly, LSD is now being touted as a potential cure for cluster
headaches.
--
ogden
>
> On which note,
>
> http://www.redpepper.ug/details.php?item=1112&&CatId=1
>
Whaton earth were you looking for to find that?
--
Malc
I hadn't really encountered a migraine sufferer before until a few
months back. A friend of mine rang and asked if I could do her a
favour. She was staying at her parents' house but they were away. She
asked if I could take her to hospital. No worries. Went over and got
her. I could see the agony she was in. We initially went to the wrong
entrance and they redirected us to emegency. I'd left her totally
useless younger brother minding my car while I helped her inside. When
we came back out into the light she couldn't handle it so went back
in and got a wheelchair and wheeled her around to the other entrance.
It was horrible to see the pain she was in. I've had enough fun with
pain over the years - broken ribs 4 times (which I find a walk in the
park compared to other things), gout (oh joy), torn soft tissue in my
chest (makes broken is seem hilarious) and this year the fun of sever
back pain which had me screaming in bed if I moved slightly.
But watching what Kate was going through was awful. I hope she does
grow out of it. She'd had them before but this was the worst. My ex
used to get them before we got together, which was when she was 24.
Kate is 24 now so with some luck she may lose them over the next few
years?
<perk>
--
Jimac
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1983 Honda Goldwing GL1100 Aspencade
Not that odd, I got Ergotomine for what they tell me is migraine when I
were not much more older than I was when I was little more then just out
of short trousers.
Good it was.
--
steve auvache
I find that a little weird. I ended up in Emergency earler this year
from taking half a tab of acid when I was run down and under stress
(this is a lie Mr Plod, or if you believe me you can travel 20,000km
and come and arrest me) and it sent my brain into reverse. I spent a
week in hospital and they had to teach me to walk again. It was a
stupid thing to do when I was in that frame of mind and never want to
go through that hell again. I would have thought if you were under the
stress of a migraine, LSD would be the last thing that would help.
MDMA maybe . . .
> But watching what Kate was going through was awful. I hope she does
> grow out of it. She'd had them before but this was the worst. My ex
> used to get them before we got together, which was when she was 24.
> Kate is 24 now so with some luck she may lose them over the next few
> years?
She might or she might not. I find mine are getting a little rarer but I
still get them - one year I get fewer, the next year I get more of
them. But I seem to have outgrown the "twice a month" migraines I used
to get.
Again, one of the important things to do is to work out what triggers
the migraine and try to work around it or against it.
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> I would have thought if you were under the
>stress of a migraine, LSD would be the last thing that would help.
>MDMA maybe . . .
Who gives a shit. It was the 1960s mate. That brief moment in our
history when a very bright future for all mankind briefly flashed it's
knickers at us all. I was given a bottle of pills containing mind
altering drugs and a green light from the quack to use them on a "needs"
basis. With more available anytime I asked.
--
steve auvache
>Migraines usually don't come out of the blue and you can
>often tie them to seeing offensively fat people
A Doctor writes:
Cut out trips to the USA.
Too fucking right. Two weeks there has left me a physical wreck.
<Glum>
I've got another two weeks coming up next month.
Stay away from Colorado?
--
Hog
Heh. But really, Ben's a bit of a lightweight these days. I think we
only polished off another two bottles of red after his guests had
left.
But I'm quite tempted to pop over again, actually, as Ben might not be
there...
Ahh, I didn't pick up that this was a long time back. Yeh, they
thought LSD was going to be a wonder drug for a while didn't they.
I've only tried it three times. The first two were good fun. The third
backfired big time. Not going there again.
I don't practice much, you see.
>But I'm quite tempted to pop over again, actually,
You're always welcome.
>as Ben might not be there...
let me know how that works out for you!
>Ace <b.ro...@ifrance.com> wrote:
>>But I'm quite tempted to pop over again, actually,
>
>You're always welcome.
Cheers.
>>as Ben might not be there...
>
>let me know how that works out for you!
You'll have to ask K...
> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
> condolences.
I used to get migraines as a child.
Virtually every Saturday afternoon at one point.
It would start with me feeling tired and yawning... constantly.
And then the pain would kick in - I felt like I was being poked over
and over again in my left eye.
Nothing sorted it out really - the next stage, whatever I did be it
try and get some sleep or take headache pills or whatever, would be I
would throw up.
Once I'd done that, a dark room and me laying on the floor with my
left temple firmly pressed against the floor would enable me to sleep
it off.
Why every Saturday afternoon?
Because I was allowed to stay up late on a Friday as there was no
school the next day, and I'd not normally make up for the lost sleep
over a normal week day by way of sleeping in later the next morning.
Other triggers for me appeared to be cucumber, cheese, and cheap
orange squash.
Anyway, I grew out of it - I still get bad headaches from time to
time, but not of that magnitude... thank fuck.
Good luck with getting it sorted.
--
JackH
Marriage. Saps a man's vinegar.
--
Hog
<Check>
> and within an hour it was a banging headache, face numb on the left,
<Check>
> couldn't make out words, slurred speech and couldn't even remember the
<Check>
> After various tests it was decided it was "just" a bit of a monster
> migraine. Something I've never experienced. Discharged myself anyway
Fun eh?
> after they gave me a bunch of stuff for it. Do those symptoms look the
> Usual Suspects? I know there are a few sufferers on the NG.
Yup. Add in rampant photophobia and you have what I was experiencing
several years ago.
Since my change of job (8 months) I've had only one or two a month
and stopped taking the pizotifen that was helping to prevent them..
And I've also been able to wean myself off haunting UKRM so it's a
win-win situation for everybody.
> If this is Migraine it sucks mightily and regular recipients have my
> condolences.
Tapaidh leibh.
Phil
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'I speak to machines with the voice of humanity'
'Speak to the wise with the voice of insanity'
Probably intravenous sumatriptan. It's one of the few things that works
reliably on the majority of sufferers.
>> Nausea and light yes. They dimmed the lights and gave a syringe of
>> something in my arse.
>
> I think that's probably evidence enough of a migraine that you might
> want to go see a doctor about this. You've seem to have had a lot of
> typical symptoms and then some.
Mine range from just a bad pain in one side of the head to pretty much
what Hog described. So yes - a bad migraine but nothing exceptional.
If Hog gets more of them it's worth seeing the quack. There are all
sorts of things that can help (from taking propranolol on a regular
basis to more exotic stuff like pizotifen. Some affect your faculties
more than others (propranolol made my brain feel like it was wrapped in
soggy cotton-wool for example - and didn't significantly reduce the
amount or severity of migraines).
You can also buy sumatriptan over the counter nowadays.
Yup. Bending down feels like your head is going to explode.
> headache' I thought people either were or weren't susceptible to migraine.
C has had precisely two migraines in her life. Both in the last 3 years
- before which she wasn't overly sympathetic to mine. Afterwards she
was much more sympathetic.
> Maybe you're just starting. Are you under stress? Also check for trigger
Stress did it for me (and having parents who both used to have them).
Food doesn't seem to trigger it.
> I take beta-blockers during clusters of attacks and carry Zolmitriptan in
> the event of a real humdinger.
<Waves pocket pack of sumatriptan and Nurofen Plus>
As I sad previously - now I'm in a much lower stress job my migraines
have reduced to a much much lower number.
Phil.
> I'm curious how many migraine sufferers also experience synaesthesia. I
I see sounds sometimes as part of a migraine - and it's a pattern very
similar to yours.
> generally experience synaesthesia as if it were a sudden and profound
> memory, as if I don't directly see colours, but aquire a memory of
> having seen then a second ago. The point is that many of the migraine
> aura I've had are as if I can directly SEE the things that usually
> arrive as a memory. Then three days of shards of glass in my head, yum.
Mine go through the classic pattern - one day of incredible activity
where I can do 15 things at once and everying seems really easy.
Followed by a day of the full-on migraine and then 3 days of feeling
like my brain has been beaten with a baseball bat.
Phil
> You can also buy sumatriptan over the counter nowadays.
You can? That's good to know.